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Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode

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of Vision Pros Live. I'm your host and coach,

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Fletcher Ellingson. Thanks for being here. So

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glad you're in this conversation. I think it's

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an important one. I always get a lot out of them

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and I hope you do too. I know I'm going to today

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because we're talking about something that I

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don't know a lot about. And so we've got an expert

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on the show and Ina Segal, welcome to the show.

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Thank you so much for having me, Fletcher. Yeah.

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Now, Ina, I could tell the people about what

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you do, the books you've written, the speaking

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you do, but I want to hear it from you. So let's

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get it right. Tell us a little bit about what

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you do and why you're here today. I help people

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to transform their lives on different levels

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from their health. And most people come to me

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because... they have some kind of health challenge

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and they just don't know what to do and that

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could be physical or emotional or even mental

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and they're struggling and they've probably gone

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to the medical system and haven't been helped

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in the way that they wanted to be helped and

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they've had a recognition that maybe they can

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participate in their own transformation of their

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well -being and so i guide them through connecting

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to their own body, through listening to the messages

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that the body has, and then working with those

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messages to create change and the kind of change

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that, I guess, opens up not just new opportunity

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and possibilities in their own minds, but also

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in their body and often in their life. Yeah,

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okay, good, good. As you dialogue with me, you're

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going to notice that one of the things I do is

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I like to summarize or recap what my guests say,

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because it's important to me that our listeners

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understand, okay? Because you and me, we know

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what we do, and we can talk all day about it.

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But what I got from you is this, and you tell

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me if this is accurate. What you do is you help

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people heal themselves in non -traditional methods.

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Is that accurate? Absolutely. All right, cool.

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Before we get into how that is done, and we're

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not going to get into the nitty gritty today,

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obviously, but we're going to give people a preview

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of what you do and invite them to reach out to

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you if they can self -identify as one of your

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potential clients. Now, before we do that, I

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like to ask my clients. what a win is something

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professional or personal because there's a lot

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of suffering going on in the world there's a

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lot of discontent there's a lot of upset and

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it's easy to focus on that but it's also easy

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to focus on what's going well if we practice

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that so what's a what's a professional or a personal

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win for you you know for me to be honest the

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biggest twin is actually connected to my children

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so i feel like When they're doing well and I

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have two children, so I have a son and a daughter,

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and they come to me and they say, hey, mom, I

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think, you know, I'm doing really amazingly in

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my life and I feel like you've really supported

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me and I feel so grateful to have you as my mom.

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That's a huge win for me. That is a huge win,

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yeah, to have appreciation from our children.

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It feels really good because we don't always

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get that, right? I think often people don't,

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and I think that's me having at different times

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been a single mom as well. I've really had to

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put in a lot of effort in just supporting them,

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and it's just beautiful to see them growing and

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doing well in their lives. Yeah, yeah, right

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on. I can appreciate that as a parent. uh always

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feels good to see your see our children uh thriving

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and growing um ina my next question for you is

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what's your vision i'd like to hear what your

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vision is you got into the work you're doing

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for a particular reason share that with us my

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vision is about giving people One, first, their

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awareness and their understanding that they do

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have the capacity to change their life. And when

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you change your life, you also can change your

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health because they're kind of intertwined. It's

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almost like how we live our lives, how we think,

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the perceptions we have, the perspectives, I

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should say. have a huge impact on our health.

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So for instance, our relationships determine

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how our heart is or how our communication is,

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right? Because we communicate with other people

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and our heart is deeply connected to intimacy

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with other people. But so is our stomach and

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our digestive system. It's like we have to digest

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experiences and assimilate them. So what I try

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and do is really help people to understand that

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their body is very practical and logical and

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it's actually By understanding the function of

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the body. We also understand how it impacts our

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health and our life and What I would love my

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biggest vision is to connect to medical professionals

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more and more and actually have them Deepen their

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understanding of medicine and of how Our bodies

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actually work so that rather than always prescribing

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something, you know, that's medical, that always

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has side effects, right? Anything you take that,

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you know, from the medical profession will have

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side effects. They first get to know the person

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and they start to get to know all the connected

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pieces that caused this person to become ill

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in the first place. Through their thinking, their

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feeling, their experiences, And then before we

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take medicine, and sometimes we need that. I

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am not against medicine in any way. But I also

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think that before we reach for that, you know,

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pill, why not understand ourselves? And I'm really

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excited to have that, I guess, to hold that vision.

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And I have had many doctors and nurses, probably

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more nurses than doctors, come to my... workshops

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and you know and sessions and i feel like that

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there is more of an opening occurring at this

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point i'm very excited about it right on um again

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i'm going to try to summarize your vision right

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so i want to because i want our readers to be

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able to our listeners to be able to connect your

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vision is about empowering people to get in touch

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with their own health and well -being and have

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some agency in that by understanding their own

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emotional uh their their emotional well -being

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and how thinking affects um the health of this

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machine is that accurate absolutely and then

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i wanted that to spread into the into medicine

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yeah yeah so do you mind if i play devil's advocate

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with you Of course. And the reason this is important

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is because some of our listeners are hearing

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this and they're like, ah, you know, come on.

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I've heard this before or what you expect me

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to like take on my health. You want me to be

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responsible for my health? I'm not a I'm not

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a physician. I don't have any medical training.

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What would you say to the person who whose brain

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may be thinking that as an automatic? response

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to what you're saying i think it's fair to think

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that i thought that for many years of my own

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life and i you know suffered and struggled through

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several health conditions including psoriasis

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really bad digestive issues where my whole body

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would blow up through incredibly painful back

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issues and I was going to, you know, medical

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professionals all the time and nothing helped.

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So I got to a point where I thought I could be

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in a wheelchair and I actually ended up having

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this experience with a chiropractor who said

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to me, you know, your body's stuck and it wants

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to be stuck, go home. I can't help you. I was

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enraged. How dare he say this? He's meant to

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know what to do. How does he not know what to

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do? And I actually ended up going home, not really

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knowing how I'm going to help myself, but recognizing

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that every time I showed up to somebody's office,

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I did not take any responsibility whatsoever

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for my health. I actually felt like I was the

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victim and they knew. They had the skills and

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I went home and I actually connected to my body

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and I started asking questions and through doing

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that, I got insights and those insights about

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my own life and how struggles in my own life

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led to pain, led to back issues, led to... You

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know, and again, it wasn't a blame thing because

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some of the things that I understood were coming

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from my family, you know, who had massive loss

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but never spoke about it. You know, so lost people

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and had trauma and had grief that I took on.

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And some of it was to do with. just going coming

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from eastern europe to australia not knowing

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one word of english and having people tease me

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and bully me and again it's not like okay it

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wasn't my fault but this but healing is not about

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finding fault it's actually about figuring out

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what is my perspective and how is this perspective

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holding me back and making me really tense and

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hard internally and not you know, not open. And

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so by recognizing those things, I started to

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relax a little bit in my body and let go. And

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all of a sudden, my body started to, you know,

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show up emotionally. So I had to feel emotions

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and then instead of just push them away, and

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nobody can feel emotions for you, really. That's

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the, you know, no professional can do it. And

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recognize my own, as you're saying, my own thinking

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where how was i thinking and i was thinking like

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an absolute victim in my life you know things

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everything was happening to me and i had no control

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or i had no way of changing it and i realized

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that i actually do i didn't when i was a child

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and i couldn't for my family but i could for

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myself and so as i started to do that every part

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of my health improved dramatically and i started

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having medical doctors and nurses and teachers

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come to me, I think the doctors was the most

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challenging because I was like, how are they

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coming to see me? And I was very young when this

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happened, when I was 22, 23, 24. I know not much

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and they know all this stuff and they're coming

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to see me because obviously they are not finding

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the answers. And somehow they think that I can

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support them to guide them back to themselves.

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Yeah, yeah. Very good. Again, I'm going to come

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back and pull some real gems out of here because

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I really want our listeners to catch this and

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pay attention. You know, a lot of people fall

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into that victim mentality. What's up? I don't

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know what's wrong with my body. And I go here,

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I go there. Nobody else knows. They can't fix

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this. You know, woe is me. Why is this happening

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to me? You know, if you're listening or watching

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to this, if you've thought those things, I really

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want you to pay attention because this is an

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opportunity for you to begin to think differently

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about the state of your health. You know, Ina

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just said, it's not your fault. And I 100 % agree

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with that. This is a machine. that we have the

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privilege of experiencing life in. It is a machine.

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It runs on its own. Yes, we have some influence

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on it, but largely it runs on its own. We don't

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tell it to breathe. We don't tell it to grow.

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However, we can have influence over it. Now,

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here's what I want. Here's what I heard you say,

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and here's what I want our listeners to hear.

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It's not your fault that you've got these things

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happening. But it is a hundred percent your responsibility.

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It's a hundred percent your responsibility because

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this machine belongs to you It's not your fault

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that things are happening to it, but it's your

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responsibility just like if I go out in the morning

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and put the key in my car and It doesn't start

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because some wires detached somehow slowly because

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all the vibration of going over the rocks and

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the roads and stuff, they came apart. That's

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not my fault that it happened. Or maybe the battery

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was defective or maybe some chip, electrical

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chip was defective that came, you know, and they

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put in at the car plant as they built it. That's

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not my fault. None of that's my fault. And yet

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it's 100 % my responsibility. What I hear you

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saying is, This is an opportunity to take ownership

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of your health. It's an opportunity to take responsibility.

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And in doing so, that is how you become empowered.

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That is where the healing process can begin.

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Am I getting that correctly? A hundred percent.

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And it begins from so many ways, you know. actually

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being aware of how you're thinking because, I

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mean, people often say, you know, it starts with

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how you eat, but it doesn't because I have to

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change my thinking to eat differently. I have

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to change my thinking to exercise differently,

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right, to go outside and not to sit here and

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complain about everything. Yes. And the minute

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that I change my thinking, I actually change

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how I feel. Yes. And it's not just about positive

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thinking. actually understanding how did I get

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stuck in the first place. That was my question

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to myself. Okay, these things happened to me,

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but I'm not eight years old anymore. I'm not,

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you know, at the time I was almost 21. how can

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I think differently at 20 or 21 than eight? How

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do I think differently at 30 than when I was,

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you know, 15? And what we don't realize is that

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we actually do get stuck. And by recognizing

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that that happens, and this is kind of the beginning

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of psychology. This is the beginning of Jung's

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work, which is actually understanding archetypal

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aspects of yourself. When you recognize, oh my

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God, I'm being a victim or I'm acting like a

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child. You recognize that there's a part of you

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that is actually stuck in something potentially

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traumatic, but it doesn't have to be. It can

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be stuck in a perspective that you observed when

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you were younger and it's not serving you anymore,

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but it's making your body tense and tension leads

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to pain. Yes. Yeah. Well articulated. I really

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appreciate what you're saying. And again, I'm

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going to I'm going to add one little thing here

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because I'm such a huge believer in the statement.

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You said it starts with your thinking. I believe

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everybody, everything starts with your thinking.

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Now, somebody in my business is like, how is

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thinking differently going to help me feel better?

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It is because thinking is what triggers your

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emotions. Your emotions are. are a result to

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the thoughts you have and what is an emotion

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an emotion is simply and nothing more than a

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chemical reaction in the body which then floods

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the nervous system and how do you change the

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chemistry in your body thoughts right if you

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see it if you're in the garage and you see a

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coiled rope out of the corner of your eye and

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you suddenly Jump back because you think it's

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a coiled rattlesnake, right? Like I live in the

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part of the country where we have rattlesnakes.

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So, you know, all of a sudden in a millisecond,

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the thought there's a snake and that I'm being

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threatened changes the chemistry in my entire

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body. And I have a rush of adrenaline, which

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is preparing me to fight or flight. That's what

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a single thought. can do in a millisecond what

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if we became intentional about our thinking you

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know louise hay i'm sure you're familiar with

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louise hay her she's all about this right like

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having a conversation with your body appreciating

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every single part of her our body right really

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loving it um and i just think it's such a beautiful

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thing so yes what you yes to what you said healing

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and health improved health begins with our thinking.

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Absolutely. And she was definitely an inspiration

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originally for my book, The Secret Language of

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Your Body. I kind of felt like she opened the

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door, right, in the, I think it was in the 70s,

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opened the door with, hey, look, there's other

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ways to be aware of things and to look at your

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body. And then because I was working with With

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a lot of people and what I was doing was giving

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them Exercises to do at home. So I was writing,

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you know exercises down where they could visualize

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something where they can move where they can

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use pressure points where they could use their

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breath in a different way and And they're thinking

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and feelings obviously and and even color you

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can see color in my background. Yeah And all

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to start to shift their, you know, their perspectives

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and, you know, what was going on in their bodies

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and open to new insights as well. And my clients

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used to come back and I would go, have you done

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the exercise? And they would say, and I would

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say, look, I can tell. I really can tell by what's

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going on if you're telling the truth or not.

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And so then it occurred to me that, If I wrote

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a book and put exercises that, you know, had

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a lot of layers and levels because we are all

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different. Yes. And so I was thinking, you know,

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how do I create exercises? I mean, everyone can,

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even if they feel like they can't visualize,

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they can think something different and they can

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touch a part of their body, you know, and they

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can breathe in a particular way and they can.

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you know do a little exercise of well how do

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i move change my thinking or my feelings you

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know and so that's what i did i kind of you know

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expanded and took took you know the work that

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she opened the door within it in a much deeper

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way and um it's been amazing to see people's

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feedback on that yeah yeah what what uh a fulfilling

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um career you have and what a privilege to work

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with people in this capacity. Hey, you know,

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there might be people out there right now watching

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this or listening to this. Some might be calling

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BS on it. And that's okay. I understand that.

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And to those people, I would say, consider that

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you're stuck in a viewpoint that you're not choosing.

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It's just. You've been programmed to think that

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way. And I challenge you, if you're listening

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to this and you're calling BS, I challenge you

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to consider this. What could be possible about

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what she's saying? What could work? What could

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I learn from this? Am I willing to be open to

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this? And ask yourself those questions because

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your programmatic automatic thinking is making

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a decision for you. So to those people, I say

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that. Now, there may be another group of people

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who are saying, yeah, this is cool. I do believe

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this. And I've been looking to work with someone

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like this or I've been or I want to read this

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book. How do the people get in touch with you

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to. to begin a conversation or to get a copy

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of your book, which is, I think it was The Secret

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Language of Your Body. Is that accurate? That's

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one of your books? Yeah, that's one of my books.

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Yeah. Tell us how to connect with you. The easiest

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and the best way to connect is to go to my website,

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inasegal .com. So it's that I -D -A -L -N -A

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-S -E -G -A -L .com. And actually... Look at

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some of the masterclasses. I do a lot of free

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masterclasses on different topics. And you might

00:23:03.220 --> 00:23:06.779
want to start with the one called Secrets, which

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is about the secret language of your body. And

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this is where I dive into all the different parts

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of the body and what they're really saying and

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why. And logic, right? I'm actually very logical.

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i also guide you through several exercises so

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you can experience it on you know for yourself

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and decide and then if you want to go further

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then you know you might want to go to a deeper

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course or a deeper kind of experience a deeper

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dive but i do want to say that what's been beautiful

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is when i wrote the book the secret language

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of your body i actually went to medical professionals

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and i went to everyone that i could think of

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from um medical doctors to surgeons to those

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that work you know to cancer you know kind of

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professors to um psychiatrists to psychologists

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anyone who i felt was you know medically trained

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but open -minded and i sent them the book and

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actually got incredible incredible feedback which

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those who are skeptical can find right at the

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beginning of the book with you know countless

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testimonials from those people who have been

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medically trained and who are open to exploring

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you know the fact that we are more than just

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you know what we've been told and that we do

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have the capacity to start to connect and discover

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you know what's going on inside ourselves? And

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actually asking that question, what is going

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on inside of me, is huge because so many people

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don't. They go through their lives without ever

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connecting and you cannot make healthy decisions

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in your life, including healthy boundaries, by

00:25:03.579 --> 00:25:06.940
never asking questions about what's going on.

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Inside of you, why do you feel the way that you

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do? What is your inner being actually telling

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you that is going to be much healthier for you

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to live your life? Yeah, yeah. Really, really

00:25:20.819 --> 00:25:25.599
good stuff. So, yes, go to Inasegal. That's I

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-N -N -A -S -E -G -A -L dot com. Is that correct?

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That is correct. Okay. Get a copy of her book.

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Sign up for a masterclass. Reach out to her if

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you have questions. You know, thanks so much

00:25:39.420 --> 00:25:41.720
for being on the show today. And thank you for

00:25:41.720 --> 00:25:44.660
being a source of contribution in our world and

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a catalyst for healing. Thank you so much. Yeah.

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All right. And now you know what it's time for.

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It's time for you to get out there. Be a source

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of kindness. Be a source of contribution. You

00:25:56.980 --> 00:25:59.380
do have something to offer this world. And I

00:25:59.380 --> 00:26:01.369
believe in you. Thank you for being here today.

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