Hey everybody, welcome back to another episode
of Vision Pros Live. I'm your host and coach,
Fletcher Ellingson. Thanks for being here. So
glad you're in this conversation. I think it's
an important one. I always get a lot out of them
and I hope you do too. I know I'm going to today
because we're talking about something that I
don't know a lot about. And so we've got an expert
on the show and Ina Segal, welcome to the show.
Thank you so much for having me, Fletcher. Yeah.
Now, Ina, I could tell the people about what
you do, the books you've written, the speaking
you do, but I want to hear it from you. So let's
get it right. Tell us a little bit about what
you do and why you're here today. I help people
to transform their lives on different levels
from their health. And most people come to me
because... they have some kind of health challenge
and they just don't know what to do and that
could be physical or emotional or even mental
and they're struggling and they've probably gone
to the medical system and haven't been helped
in the way that they wanted to be helped and
they've had a recognition that maybe they can
participate in their own transformation of their
well -being and so i guide them through connecting
to their own body, through listening to the messages
that the body has, and then working with those
messages to create change and the kind of change
that, I guess, opens up not just new opportunity
and possibilities in their own minds, but also
in their body and often in their life. Yeah,
okay, good, good. As you dialogue with me, you're
going to notice that one of the things I do is
I like to summarize or recap what my guests say,
because it's important to me that our listeners
understand, okay? Because you and me, we know
what we do, and we can talk all day about it.
But what I got from you is this, and you tell
me if this is accurate. What you do is you help
people heal themselves in non -traditional methods.
Is that accurate? Absolutely. All right, cool.
Before we get into how that is done, and we're
not going to get into the nitty gritty today,
obviously, but we're going to give people a preview
of what you do and invite them to reach out to
you if they can self -identify as one of your
potential clients. Now, before we do that, I
like to ask my clients. what a win is something
professional or personal because there's a lot
of suffering going on in the world there's a
lot of discontent there's a lot of upset and
it's easy to focus on that but it's also easy
to focus on what's going well if we practice
that so what's a what's a professional or a personal
win for you you know for me to be honest the
biggest twin is actually connected to my children
so i feel like When they're doing well and I
have two children, so I have a son and a daughter,
and they come to me and they say, hey, mom, I
think, you know, I'm doing really amazingly in
my life and I feel like you've really supported
me and I feel so grateful to have you as my mom.
That's a huge win for me. That is a huge win,
yeah, to have appreciation from our children.
It feels really good because we don't always
get that, right? I think often people don't,
and I think that's me having at different times
been a single mom as well. I've really had to
put in a lot of effort in just supporting them,
and it's just beautiful to see them growing and
doing well in their lives. Yeah, yeah, right
on. I can appreciate that as a parent. uh always
feels good to see your see our children uh thriving
and growing um ina my next question for you is
what's your vision i'd like to hear what your
vision is you got into the work you're doing
for a particular reason share that with us my
vision is about giving people One, first, their
awareness and their understanding that they do
have the capacity to change their life. And when
you change your life, you also can change your
health because they're kind of intertwined. It's
almost like how we live our lives, how we think,
the perceptions we have, the perspectives, I
should say. have a huge impact on our health.
So for instance, our relationships determine
how our heart is or how our communication is,
right? Because we communicate with other people
and our heart is deeply connected to intimacy
with other people. But so is our stomach and
our digestive system. It's like we have to digest
experiences and assimilate them. So what I try
and do is really help people to understand that
their body is very practical and logical and
it's actually By understanding the function of
the body. We also understand how it impacts our
health and our life and What I would love my
biggest vision is to connect to medical professionals
more and more and actually have them Deepen their
understanding of medicine and of how Our bodies
actually work so that rather than always prescribing
something, you know, that's medical, that always
has side effects, right? Anything you take that,
you know, from the medical profession will have
side effects. They first get to know the person
and they start to get to know all the connected
pieces that caused this person to become ill
in the first place. Through their thinking, their
feeling, their experiences, And then before we
take medicine, and sometimes we need that. I
am not against medicine in any way. But I also
think that before we reach for that, you know,
pill, why not understand ourselves? And I'm really
excited to have that, I guess, to hold that vision.
And I have had many doctors and nurses, probably
more nurses than doctors, come to my... workshops
and you know and sessions and i feel like that
there is more of an opening occurring at this
point i'm very excited about it right on um again
i'm going to try to summarize your vision right
so i want to because i want our readers to be
able to our listeners to be able to connect your
vision is about empowering people to get in touch
with their own health and well -being and have
some agency in that by understanding their own
emotional uh their their emotional well -being
and how thinking affects um the health of this
machine is that accurate absolutely and then
i wanted that to spread into the into medicine
yeah yeah so do you mind if i play devil's advocate
with you Of course. And the reason this is important
is because some of our listeners are hearing
this and they're like, ah, you know, come on.
I've heard this before or what you expect me
to like take on my health. You want me to be
responsible for my health? I'm not a I'm not
a physician. I don't have any medical training.
What would you say to the person who whose brain
may be thinking that as an automatic? response
to what you're saying i think it's fair to think
that i thought that for many years of my own
life and i you know suffered and struggled through
several health conditions including psoriasis
really bad digestive issues where my whole body
would blow up through incredibly painful back
issues and I was going to, you know, medical
professionals all the time and nothing helped.
So I got to a point where I thought I could be
in a wheelchair and I actually ended up having
this experience with a chiropractor who said
to me, you know, your body's stuck and it wants
to be stuck, go home. I can't help you. I was
enraged. How dare he say this? He's meant to
know what to do. How does he not know what to
do? And I actually ended up going home, not really
knowing how I'm going to help myself, but recognizing
that every time I showed up to somebody's office,
I did not take any responsibility whatsoever
for my health. I actually felt like I was the
victim and they knew. They had the skills and
I went home and I actually connected to my body
and I started asking questions and through doing
that, I got insights and those insights about
my own life and how struggles in my own life
led to pain, led to back issues, led to... You
know, and again, it wasn't a blame thing because
some of the things that I understood were coming
from my family, you know, who had massive loss
but never spoke about it. You know, so lost people
and had trauma and had grief that I took on.
And some of it was to do with. just going coming
from eastern europe to australia not knowing
one word of english and having people tease me
and bully me and again it's not like okay it
wasn't my fault but this but healing is not about
finding fault it's actually about figuring out
what is my perspective and how is this perspective
holding me back and making me really tense and
hard internally and not you know, not open. And
so by recognizing those things, I started to
relax a little bit in my body and let go. And
all of a sudden, my body started to, you know,
show up emotionally. So I had to feel emotions
and then instead of just push them away, and
nobody can feel emotions for you, really. That's
the, you know, no professional can do it. And
recognize my own, as you're saying, my own thinking
where how was i thinking and i was thinking like
an absolute victim in my life you know things
everything was happening to me and i had no control
or i had no way of changing it and i realized
that i actually do i didn't when i was a child
and i couldn't for my family but i could for
myself and so as i started to do that every part
of my health improved dramatically and i started
having medical doctors and nurses and teachers
come to me, I think the doctors was the most
challenging because I was like, how are they
coming to see me? And I was very young when this
happened, when I was 22, 23, 24. I know not much
and they know all this stuff and they're coming
to see me because obviously they are not finding
the answers. And somehow they think that I can
support them to guide them back to themselves.
Yeah, yeah. Very good. Again, I'm going to come
back and pull some real gems out of here because
I really want our listeners to catch this and
pay attention. You know, a lot of people fall
into that victim mentality. What's up? I don't
know what's wrong with my body. And I go here,
I go there. Nobody else knows. They can't fix
this. You know, woe is me. Why is this happening
to me? You know, if you're listening or watching
to this, if you've thought those things, I really
want you to pay attention because this is an
opportunity for you to begin to think differently
about the state of your health. You know, Ina
just said, it's not your fault. And I 100 % agree
with that. This is a machine. that we have the
privilege of experiencing life in. It is a machine.
It runs on its own. Yes, we have some influence
on it, but largely it runs on its own. We don't
tell it to breathe. We don't tell it to grow.
However, we can have influence over it. Now,
here's what I want. Here's what I heard you say,
and here's what I want our listeners to hear.
It's not your fault that you've got these things
happening. But it is a hundred percent your responsibility.
It's a hundred percent your responsibility because
this machine belongs to you It's not your fault
that things are happening to it, but it's your
responsibility just like if I go out in the morning
and put the key in my car and It doesn't start
because some wires detached somehow slowly because
all the vibration of going over the rocks and
the roads and stuff, they came apart. That's
not my fault that it happened. Or maybe the battery
was defective or maybe some chip, electrical
chip was defective that came, you know, and they
put in at the car plant as they built it. That's
not my fault. None of that's my fault. And yet
it's 100 % my responsibility. What I hear you
saying is, This is an opportunity to take ownership
of your health. It's an opportunity to take responsibility.
And in doing so, that is how you become empowered.
That is where the healing process can begin.
Am I getting that correctly? A hundred percent.
And it begins from so many ways, you know. actually
being aware of how you're thinking because, I
mean, people often say, you know, it starts with
how you eat, but it doesn't because I have to
change my thinking to eat differently. I have
to change my thinking to exercise differently,
right, to go outside and not to sit here and
complain about everything. Yes. And the minute
that I change my thinking, I actually change
how I feel. Yes. And it's not just about positive
thinking. actually understanding how did I get
stuck in the first place. That was my question
to myself. Okay, these things happened to me,
but I'm not eight years old anymore. I'm not,
you know, at the time I was almost 21. how can
I think differently at 20 or 21 than eight? How
do I think differently at 30 than when I was,
you know, 15? And what we don't realize is that
we actually do get stuck. And by recognizing
that that happens, and this is kind of the beginning
of psychology. This is the beginning of Jung's
work, which is actually understanding archetypal
aspects of yourself. When you recognize, oh my
God, I'm being a victim or I'm acting like a
child. You recognize that there's a part of you
that is actually stuck in something potentially
traumatic, but it doesn't have to be. It can
be stuck in a perspective that you observed when
you were younger and it's not serving you anymore,
but it's making your body tense and tension leads
to pain. Yes. Yeah. Well articulated. I really
appreciate what you're saying. And again, I'm
going to I'm going to add one little thing here
because I'm such a huge believer in the statement.
You said it starts with your thinking. I believe
everybody, everything starts with your thinking.
Now, somebody in my business is like, how is
thinking differently going to help me feel better?
It is because thinking is what triggers your
emotions. Your emotions are. are a result to
the thoughts you have and what is an emotion
an emotion is simply and nothing more than a
chemical reaction in the body which then floods
the nervous system and how do you change the
chemistry in your body thoughts right if you
see it if you're in the garage and you see a
coiled rope out of the corner of your eye and
you suddenly Jump back because you think it's
a coiled rattlesnake, right? Like I live in the
part of the country where we have rattlesnakes.
So, you know, all of a sudden in a millisecond,
the thought there's a snake and that I'm being
threatened changes the chemistry in my entire
body. And I have a rush of adrenaline, which
is preparing me to fight or flight. That's what
a single thought. can do in a millisecond what
if we became intentional about our thinking you
know louise hay i'm sure you're familiar with
louise hay her she's all about this right like
having a conversation with your body appreciating
every single part of her our body right really
loving it um and i just think it's such a beautiful
thing so yes what you yes to what you said healing
and health improved health begins with our thinking.
Absolutely. And she was definitely an inspiration
originally for my book, The Secret Language of
Your Body. I kind of felt like she opened the
door, right, in the, I think it was in the 70s,
opened the door with, hey, look, there's other
ways to be aware of things and to look at your
body. And then because I was working with With
a lot of people and what I was doing was giving
them Exercises to do at home. So I was writing,
you know exercises down where they could visualize
something where they can move where they can
use pressure points where they could use their
breath in a different way and And they're thinking
and feelings obviously and and even color you
can see color in my background. Yeah And all
to start to shift their, you know, their perspectives
and, you know, what was going on in their bodies
and open to new insights as well. And my clients
used to come back and I would go, have you done
the exercise? And they would say, and I would
say, look, I can tell. I really can tell by what's
going on if you're telling the truth or not.
And so then it occurred to me that, If I wrote
a book and put exercises that, you know, had
a lot of layers and levels because we are all
different. Yes. And so I was thinking, you know,
how do I create exercises? I mean, everyone can,
even if they feel like they can't visualize,
they can think something different and they can
touch a part of their body, you know, and they
can breathe in a particular way and they can.
you know do a little exercise of well how do
i move change my thinking or my feelings you
know and so that's what i did i kind of you know
expanded and took took you know the work that
she opened the door within it in a much deeper
way and um it's been amazing to see people's
feedback on that yeah yeah what what uh a fulfilling
um career you have and what a privilege to work
with people in this capacity. Hey, you know,
there might be people out there right now watching
this or listening to this. Some might be calling
BS on it. And that's okay. I understand that.
And to those people, I would say, consider that
you're stuck in a viewpoint that you're not choosing.
It's just. You've been programmed to think that
way. And I challenge you, if you're listening
to this and you're calling BS, I challenge you
to consider this. What could be possible about
what she's saying? What could work? What could
I learn from this? Am I willing to be open to
this? And ask yourself those questions because
your programmatic automatic thinking is making
a decision for you. So to those people, I say
that. Now, there may be another group of people
who are saying, yeah, this is cool. I do believe
this. And I've been looking to work with someone
like this or I've been or I want to read this
book. How do the people get in touch with you
to. to begin a conversation or to get a copy
of your book, which is, I think it was The Secret
Language of Your Body. Is that accurate? That's
one of your books? Yeah, that's one of my books.
Yeah. Tell us how to connect with you. The easiest
and the best way to connect is to go to my website,
inasegal .com. So it's that I -D -A -L -N -A
-S -E -G -A -L .com. And actually... Look at
some of the masterclasses. I do a lot of free
masterclasses on different topics. And you might
want to start with the one called Secrets, which
is about the secret language of your body. And
this is where I dive into all the different parts
of the body and what they're really saying and
why. And logic, right? I'm actually very logical.
i also guide you through several exercises so
you can experience it on you know for yourself
and decide and then if you want to go further
then you know you might want to go to a deeper
course or a deeper kind of experience a deeper
dive but i do want to say that what's been beautiful
is when i wrote the book the secret language
of your body i actually went to medical professionals
and i went to everyone that i could think of
from um medical doctors to surgeons to those
that work you know to cancer you know kind of
professors to um psychiatrists to psychologists
anyone who i felt was you know medically trained
but open -minded and i sent them the book and
actually got incredible incredible feedback which
those who are skeptical can find right at the
beginning of the book with you know countless
testimonials from those people who have been
medically trained and who are open to exploring
you know the fact that we are more than just
you know what we've been told and that we do
have the capacity to start to connect and discover
you know what's going on inside ourselves? And
actually asking that question, what is going
on inside of me, is huge because so many people
don't. They go through their lives without ever
connecting and you cannot make healthy decisions
in your life, including healthy boundaries, by
never asking questions about what's going on.
Inside of you, why do you feel the way that you
do? What is your inner being actually telling
you that is going to be much healthier for you
to live your life? Yeah, yeah. Really, really
good stuff. So, yes, go to Inasegal. That's I
-N -N -A -S -E -G -A -L dot com. Is that correct?
That is correct. Okay. Get a copy of her book.
Sign up for a masterclass. Reach out to her if
you have questions. You know, thanks so much
for being on the show today. And thank you for
being a source of contribution in our world and
a catalyst for healing. Thank you so much. Yeah.
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