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Hey, everybody. Welcome to another episode of

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Vision Pros. I'm your host and coach, Fletcher

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Ellingson. And today on our show, we have Kason

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Morris. And before I introduce him, I want to

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tell you a little bit about him. Something on

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his website caught my eye. I've seen multiple

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things. And I'm going to just read right off

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the website because I love it. First off, Kason

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is a strategist, speaker, systems thinker, and

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he's a proud father of four. But he says... I'm

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not here to talk about your job title. And this

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is what I love. Because enough of the job titles,

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right? Enough throwing around all that perceived

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significance that's behind a job title. What

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he's here to do is help you build a life and

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a career that actually works. And he says his

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systems were built in the Bronx and tested. in

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boardrooms and i gotta say one more thing and

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then i'm gonna introduce him for real but on

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his website on the about page he says why i built

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life work design he says after corporate burnout

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and divorce i realized something nobody tells

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you success on paper means nothing if your life

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doesn't work for you case on morris welcome to

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vision pros thanks for having me Yeah, man. So

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much good stuff just right there to dive into.

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But before we get to it, I'd like to start off

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with a win. So, Kason, what's a win for you professionally

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or personally that you can share with our listeners?

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Yeah, I would say a personal win for me right

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now actually is happening this week. I was able

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to take a week away from my founder work, from

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my executive work, and spent a couple of days

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on the beach with my daughters and my wife and

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my mom. Because it's one of those things where

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sometimes you're always on go and you have to

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recognize that you also have to take pauses to

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renew and reset and re -energize so you can continue

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to push forward. So those things matter to me.

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So that's definitely a win in my book. And I'm

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happy to come back with clarity and have this

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conversation with you today. Yeah, right on.

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So you took some time for some self -care and

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some connection with family, it sounds like.

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100%. Right on. um so i i've told the audience

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a little bit about you but i want to hear from

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you yeah uh case on morris what is your vision

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yeah i think you you did a great job of introducing

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uh the idea of my vision so again for those that

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are getting to know me case on morris and ultimately

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my vision is really to help professionals stop

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surviving and to start designing i'm a big believer

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that our careers and our work shouldn't be a

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trap. It should actually be a tool. And we're

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entering this new future that's really, it's

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all about our clarity. It's all about optionality.

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It's all about having a narrative that will matter

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way more than any job title that you'll ever

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have. Because when you think about the data that's

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there today, more than 50 % of our skills are

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going to be outdated within the next couple of

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years. That's coming from Forbes. From World

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Economic Forum, you know, they're saying that

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up to 40 % of jobs will require reskilling within

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the next five years. And as we all know, AI and

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emerging technology is changing the game. So

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with all that in mind, you know, my vision is

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how do I help professionals actually step forward

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and go into thrive mode when all we're trying

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to do is figure out what's next. So much good

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stuff there. Yeah, there is the juxtaposition

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of going for the title, going for that role,

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going for that next promotion, which is nothing

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wrong with that, right? And it's not good, bad,

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right or wrong. That's one way to live life,

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not a bad way to live life. But what you're saying

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is there's another way. And it can probably live

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within even that model. that we're used to but

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what you're talking about is and and the word

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you used the word i'm going to call attention

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to is designing your life yep because what that

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says to me is that smacks of it smacks of um

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intention and and a sense of deliberateness is

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that accurate 100 i mean if you if you even think

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about it what i what i call the concept is life

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work design and even that term has intentionality

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because when you think about it right what do

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we typically when we talk about trying to figure

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out work what do people say they say work life

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balance like let's just take that and break it

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down right first of all you know you're leading

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with the idea of work and most people define

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themselves by by what they do and that's why

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i intentionally flipped it around i was like

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work shouldn't define what you do and who you

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are you should really be thinking about what

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is your life what is your intention and how does

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work become a tool in that and in other words

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when i think about balance uh when you think

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about balance right in a way work in life balance

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is kind of a false dichotomy because these things

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will never be equal and what i talk about in

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in in my coaching um in my books and thought

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leadership is that we're trying to find more

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so synergy and alignment it's knowing the season

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that you're you're in so i was very very intentional

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about flipping that around is that it's not about

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work -life balance it's about life work alignment

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or life work synergy because that's what we're

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trying to do we're trying to figure out what

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wave are we in now how do we set ourselves up

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how is our design for our life actually driving

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what what we want to do next and how is work

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a tool in that and and i think it's a very powerful

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Because at the end of the day, we're trying to

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design a life that you don't want to escape from.

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Like even even though I went on a vacation and

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within the last couple of days, it wasn't necessarily

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an escape. It was more of a reset and me aligning

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my life to know that I needed time with my family

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so that I can energize and get back to my work.

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Yeah, well articulated. And again, I'm just going

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to bring a spotlight to a few things I heard

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and expand a little bit because I really want

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our listeners to get this. You said, pay attention

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to the season of life you're in. And, oh, man.

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I mean, come on, just take a beat, people. Just

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take a beat and really answer this question.

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Like, what season of life am I in? I mean, get

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curious. What season of life are you in? And

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answer that for yourself. If you can't answer

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it, like, really get curious. Because there are

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distinct seasons, right? It's a great call out.

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Yeah. And then I also like what you said about,

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again, that that intention, because a lot of

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us, you know, and I've been and I've certainly

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been in what I'm about to say. We fall into that

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thing like, oh, man, I got to get a job. I got

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to find a job. Right. Again, nothing wrong with

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that. But so different than I got to design a

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life that works for me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. this

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is big stuff and to a lot of people maybe you're

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not hearing the distinction so i increase i encourage

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you to lean in like what what case on is talking

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about is designing a life work uh a life that

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works for you that includes um an intentional

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some sort of intentional career here is really

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good my next question for you is why is all this

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important to you Why is it important to me? You

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know, when I when I think about it, you know,

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I feel like in this stage of my career, you know,

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I think about my own journey and even some of

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what you talked about in in my about section.

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I think about it and I call it the relentless

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climb. So for me, you know, I went the traditional

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route. I chased the titles. I worried about the

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promotions. I was thinking about how do I get

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more access to opportunity? How do I make more

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money? And frankly, all of that led to my burnout

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and it led to my relationships falling through.

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And what I realized was that that logic wasn't

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serving me anymore. And once I had that reset

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and that reframe and I started putting on the

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hat of a designer. It changed everything for

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me. And it allowed me to navigate through 10

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different pivots and promotions across six or

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seven different industries. So no longer about

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title, but it was really more about how am I

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creating leverage based on what I want to do?

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and then how am i taking that leverage and creating

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liquidity for myself using my skills as currency

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in different ways whether it's speaking whether

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it's workshops whether it's my nine to five work

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whether it's something that is a business that

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is is driven by my purpose and then how do i

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use those things to to create options and and

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through that whole sequence which is part of

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what i teach and i talk about you know it's allowed

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me to navigate corporate for the last 20 years,

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but not from the position of being a passenger,

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but from the position of being a true driver

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of what's next for me. And when I think about

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it in that way, I always feel like I have a sense

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of ownership and a sense of freedom in that.

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And I wasn't stuck in jobs and opportunities

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that looked good on paper, but didn't feel right

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for me. And that's why I do it, because I've

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been doing it for some years now. And I didn't

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quite realize what I didn't really realize what

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I was doing until COVID happened. And when COVID

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happened, you know, the entire world stood on

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its head. It was a macro economic shift, not

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even just in economics, but basically people.

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had their their fancy titles and their degrees

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and they thought they were you know basically

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protected and covid shift shifted all those things

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and what i realized at that time um was as these

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shifts happened you know people people lost jobs

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people's situations they completely changed and

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yet i was good i actually around that time doubled

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my salary and people were looking at me like

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hey what are you doing That's different. And

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I had to step back and think about that. And

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that allowed me to start to distill the different

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frameworks, tools, mindset shifts that turned

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my career into a launchpad for my own life work

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freedom. And so there's no no fluff, just the

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proof. And I started helping others ever since.

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Yeah, so good. And one of the things that I was

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just getting present to while you were talking.

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was your energy man it's so it's i love how calm

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you are uh you're very present i really appreciate

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that about you and i also really appreciate it

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again want to call out what you um were alluding

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to is you were there was a question behind your

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statement was like who's in the driver's seat

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of your life yeah yeah right who's driving this

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thing right who Are you being caused in the matter

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of your life or have you surrendered that to

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the machine and you're just kind of looking for

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a way to get on the machine? I love this idea

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of like, who's driving this thing? And again,

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I want to ask our listeners, are you in the driver's

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seat? Are you calling the shots of your life

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or are you caught up in excuses and the blame

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game? And now I want to play devil's advocate

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with you. OK, because there are no doubt some

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people that are going to hear what you're saying

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and they're going to love what you're saying.

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But they're also going to say, you know, case

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on. Let's get real, dude. How am I supposed to

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do what you're saying when I got to pay the bills,

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when I got to go to work, when I got to feed

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the dog and take care of the kids and, you know,

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make dinner? Come on. Come on. How am I supposed

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to get off this merry -go -round? Is this only

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for entrepreneurs? Talk to me about that. No,

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I love it. I love that you brought that up because

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one of the things that I think when people put

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on this designer's mindset, one of the things

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I evangelize is that you start from where you

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are. So and I also emphasize the idea that, you

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know, your skills are your currency and people

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are sitting on a literal war chest of skills,

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talents, things that are very unique to them

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that they can use in different ways, whether

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it's in their nine to five or in some entrepreneurial

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fashion. Not everyone's meant or built to be

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the traditional entrepreneur, and that's very

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much OK. But what I want to emphasize is that

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you have to start to think about your skills

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and what you're able to do. how you're able to

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serve others in a in a more diversified way you

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are more than your job titles you are a story

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and an embodiment of different experiences and

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those experiences some of them are going to really

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energize you and they can really help other people

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and that's what this conversation is about it's

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all about when you have that mindset shift and

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you start to better understand what you're capable

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of and what the demand is for for what you're

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capable of you know now it becomes about what's

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good enough for now so it's not about transfer

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transforming everything overnight it's about

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how you show up in the situation that you're

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in there are shifts that you can make that makes

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it good enough for now so that you're getting

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up every day because now you have more of a purpose

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you may be in that job that feels like it's it's

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a rut or you feel like you're trapped in the

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in the title but guess what maybe you have some

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flexibility in the work that you do maybe you

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can start to do projects in that work that are

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a little bit more interesting and that give you

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more energy projects that are highly valuable

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that let you develop new skills that are rare

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and valuable and guess what those skills become

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they become leverage so it's all about helping

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people start to look at their situation a little

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bit differently and pick up their unique pieces

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so they can start to put the puzzle together

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and that's that's one of the first critical unlocks

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in in what i teach and speak about is that everyone

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can start from where they are. And it's just

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about what is your journey to good enough? And

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let's figure out what that is, because then that

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becomes the springboard for whatever is going

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to happen after. Right on. Again, I like I'm

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a big fan of repetition. Right. So I'm going

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to again, I'm going to call back some of these

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things that you just said. So we hear this. Number

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one, start where you are. Love this. We're not

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trying to suggest that you start 10 paces ahead

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of where you are. That would be ridiculous, right?

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No, start where you are. And one of the things

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that came to mind when you said that, start where

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you are. And then you said, you're sitting on

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a war chest of skills. And I love the imagery

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of this because most of us, and I believe, and

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I concur with you. Most of us are sitting on

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a war chest of skills that we are not currently

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using or that we have overlooked. And so get

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curious about what are those skills that I've

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got that I could begin to, as you say, leverage.

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And this doesn't mean you have to go outside

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of your current career to leverage these. In

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fact, what I what I coach my clients to do is

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look inside your current job, your current career,

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your current position. are there things that

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you could be doing or that you want to do that

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you're not doing get into conversation about

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that begin to build that perceived value right

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because when you lead with value the opportunities

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are going to follow um so really appreciate what

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you're saying here yeah um uh let's see well

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we're just about out of time here um If someone's

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listening to this and it's resonating with them

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and they want to either get in touch with you,

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learn more about or get some of your books about

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this, what's the best way to connect with you?

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I would say the best way to connect with me is

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my website, which is caseonmorris .com. I am

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still building, still designing, still growing,

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but you're going to find the latest and greatest

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in relation to my thought leadership and services.

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I also have a newsletter. and called the Life

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Work Dispatch. And the last good place to reach

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me is on LinkedIn. I try to keep active on LinkedIn.

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I post regularly. I also share a bit of a weekly

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live series that I've started up, again, just

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to get these concepts and these ideas out there.

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Educate and energize. And these are the best

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ways to get in touch with me if you'd want to

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collaborate and work together, because it's all

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about clarity and confidence and helping you

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unlock what you already have. Yeah. Well said.

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Thanks. Thanks so much for being on the show

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today. Definitely you are going to have your

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back. We're going to dive into some of your concepts

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more deeply. But again. Kason Morris, thank you

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very much. Thanks for having me. All right. Thank

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you for being here today. I'm really happy that

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you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking

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forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes

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continue to move forward. This is going to get

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more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement

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as well. We'll invite people to participate in

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the show. And thank you for giving us your time

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and attention. Have an excellent time building

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out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.
