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What's up, everybody? Welcome into another episode

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of Vision Pros Live. I'm your show host, Jackson

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Callum, founder and CEO of First Class Business.

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And I'm excited to have Justin Boyd on today

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because he's got one of those ultra promises

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that visionaries and business owners need desperately.

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And it's very hard to find the providers that

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are able to fulfill on that promise. So Justin

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and I just met. um i'm like one of the hardest

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ball people probably when it comes to the subject

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because of our experiences in the past with those

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who can help us on the financial side of our

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operations and so we're going to have a discussion

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with him about just his vision you know what

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he's up to we're not going to dive too much into

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the nuts and bolts of like how he goes about

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what he does because we we want to get to know

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the who first um and i want to get to know what

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why why he does what he does um in addition to

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that i'll give a shout out to some of the people

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in the past who've helped us in similar services

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um because it you know again i want you to be

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prepared to interview people the right way it's

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about protecting your vision it's about setting

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up what you need for that infrastructure so we

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started first class business with cameron williams

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at the helm as our i guess you'd call it fractional

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cfo of kinley accounting One thing that guy does,

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he sent me cookies that were to die for, by the

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way. And in addition to that, he really does

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know his systems. And we were in a position where

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we wanted to scale faster and have somebody who

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could help us scale for our clients as well.

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And shortly after that. One of my good buddies

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who served a mission in San Antonio, Texas and

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met him that way, ended up doing a very similar

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process and following a very similar program.

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His name is Zach Johnson of Discovery Bookkeeping.

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Both of these individuals are individuals that

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I recommend taking a look at. They both have

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their own strengths and their processes. And

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what they do, I'll also mention Mike Tortorici

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of Well Done Taxes. I've worked with him for,

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well, his mom worked with my mom for the last

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40 years. And now he does kind of the same thing.

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So he's the person I turn to for taxes and for

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financial realities. Mike is a great guy. Not

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as streamlined and scalable. So, again, we're

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always looking for entities that are able to

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streamline and scale. There's one other provider

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that we turned to that was very close to those

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matters. I'm not going to mention his name. You

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can just look back in our past to see who that

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might be. But that person has ended up on our

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blacklist. Again, there are good, bads, and uglies

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related to the financial realities of trying

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to bring a vision together. So I speak about

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this with a sense of reverence and a sense of

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sacredness, knowing that you've really got to

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take Michael Gerber's, the email to heart when

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it comes to hiring somebody in finances and really

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understand the process enough so that you're

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not delegating by abdication. Make sure you're

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delegating by understanding that process. And,

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again, we're going to have more vision today.

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But if you feel drawn to Justin, of course, reach

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out to him. He's somebody I'm going to be talking

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to afterwards as well and seeing is this the

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guy who actually brings together what everybody

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promises that they do. So before I bring Justin

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back on, a few more resources for you. Home Studio

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Mastery by Junaid Ahmed. He builds amazing podcast

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studios. I'm here in Ecuador. I don't really

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do the theatrics of a fancy studio on my side,

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but I do need the right microphone. I do need

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my setup to be great. It is nice to have him

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in my back pocket when I need him. I just introduced

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him to Dr. Justin and Shannon Pierce to upgrade

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their studios. Went and built a studio with him

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in Atlanta that was a $50 ,000 studio. He's a

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top 2 % podcaster globally, so he also understands

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how to drive success. I highly recommend you

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to meet him. He's a great friend of mine. Then

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there's Dr. Danny Brassell, who's become one

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of my best friends over the last year. He's one

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of the world's best educators. who has children

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that's listening right now or is in the education

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space he's one of the world's best educators

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and he teaches parents how to inspire their children

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to love how to read the type of of impact that

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he's making in the world is going to have wonderful

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impacts for generations go check out the reading

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habit with dannybrassell .com and then there's

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the water project the water project is an entity

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that we actually just donate to every month i

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don't have an affiliation with them but when

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i found out there's millions of people in this

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world who don't even have access to clean drinking

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water, it just impacted me. It hit me. And I

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was like, dang, I've never been thirsty in my

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entire life. What would it be like if my kids

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had to leave school and go get water? If I had

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to leave work to go get water? My friends, we

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have an opportunity to bless the lives of millions

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of people in ways that, again, we take for granted.

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My hope is that even if you can't commit financially

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to helping the Water Project, that you'll bring

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their website up with friends or family, maybe

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over dinner, maybe over lunch. Just talk to them

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about it. You never know. Talking about that

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with the right person could lead to that person

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investing $10 ,000 in those entities. We're talking

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about making a generational impact that helps

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people for decades by building a sand dam or

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a borehole well. They actually show you the process

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of the project you invest in coming to fruition.

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It is one of the coolest things that I've ever

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seen. Now, there's 8 billion people to help in

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this world, so if you know of another cause,

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Drop it in the comments. Let us know what that

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cause is, because I will take a look at it personally

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and I will see what I can do to help out if it's

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something that inspires me. And really, I hope

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that's what this life is about is helping other

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people. So without without further ado, let's

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get Justin on here and help each of you and talk

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about his vision of finances and what he's up

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to in life. So, Justin, welcome to Vision Pros

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Life. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks for having me.

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Appreciate it, Jackson. Yeah, absolutely, man.

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So we can dive right back into where we are.

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We can even pivot the direction of the vision,

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however you'd like to do that. I will ask kind

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of more about the story behind what you're doing

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and what your why is. I'll combine both those

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for you. We'll just complicate it. Why don't

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we? Yeah, exactly. The why is because there are

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so many businesses out there. like small businesses

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and i think it's going to be even more the case

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going forward here with just kind of the way

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the world is going and you know at least in america

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you know people are losing their jobs and trying

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to figure out what am i going to do how do i

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you know make ends meet a lot of people trying

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to start their own business out of necessity

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or out of just you know following their passion

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but there's a big lack of financial education

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out there at the same time we do have chat gpt

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we do have a lot of ai stuff that's helping out

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But if you don't have it trained right, if you

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don't really know what to ask or do it the right

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way, you can be misled as well, just like you

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can be a human being. And so and combined with

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that is just there is a lot of lack of trust

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between people and things like that, especially

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as it relates to things like finances and other

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things where people have been or can be taken

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advantage of. Right. So so I guess the why is

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to just be a beacon of trust that people can

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come. Talk to talk to you, you know, and feel

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like, hey, I'm going to they're going to meet

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me where I'm at. They're going to be OK. It's

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not going to be embarrassing, but I can be honest

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about where I am and really help them feel confident

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that they can do it. Encourage them that, hey,

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you can do you can do it and I'll try to help

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you as best I can along that journey. And so

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I think just providing that trust is something

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that is really, really needed in that in this

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area. Cool, man. And I haven't asked this question

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in a long time, but it is one of my favorites

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to ask people. And given your qualifications,

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I think it's a very prudent question. Feel free

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to shoot the question down, Justin, because I'm

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going to lead the witness with it. Or feel free

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to double down and say like, nope, I see where

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you're coming from on this. Justin, why do leaders

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hide from funding their visions? From funding

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their visions. Honestly, well, from what I've

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seen, and again, I haven't seen it all, but I

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think a lot of them are not confident in what

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their vision is or they think that they're going

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to get dissension from it or not get support

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from it. So that's, I think, the biggest thing

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that I've seen. And I would say, you know, if

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I put myself in that bucket, too, it's like,

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what if it fails? What if it doesn't come through?

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Am I going to am I going to be able to make it

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happen? So I would say that's that's the biggest

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thing that I've seen is just that lack of confidence

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in it of yourself where it's like I believe in

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it. But I'm also scared that, you know, as soon

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as I have to put money behind it and put it out

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there, you know, that something might go wrong.

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Right. So, yeah, huge, huge, huge. And I think

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it's so important because it's kind of like somebody

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who walks tightropes. You can't jump onto that

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thing nervously or like slow and like scared.

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That ain't going to work. That's not going to

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happen. And so I would like to ask the next question.

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And since it sounds like we're kind of in agreement

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that some people have fear of failure, some people

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have probably even fear of success. Some people

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just don't know what to do with it. So in that

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case, how do leaders then? lean into funding

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their vision um you know funding it is important

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and if it's not just tell me it's not important

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but um if it's important to fund how do you how

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do you as a leader lean in confidently and find

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your vision yeah so i mean from from my standpoint

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what what we help people do is put data and you

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know financial uh patterns around it as far as

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like hey this if you do this here's what it's

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going to look like and they can get better headlights

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into what is that going to take and what things

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have to fall in place to make that work what

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assumptions have to work and to also look at

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hey here's best case scenario but here's also

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worst case scenario put some different viewpoints

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out there to say you know if things don't all

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fall into place here's what it might look like

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to get them comfortable with the guardrails of

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like oh if it does not go exactly perfect that's

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not the worst case in the world and things aren't

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going to fall apart also to talk to people that

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have done it before and also talk to you know

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the people that are investing in them or or whoever

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that may be to figure out what their expectations

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are but really to try to you know what we do

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is try to take the emotions out of everything

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and replace that with data or history and and

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remind them like hey we can use this data to

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make decisions and also you've done stuff like

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this before let's point back to things that you've

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done before where you've put your money where

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your mouth is and succeeded so what's to say

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you can't do it again right Cause I, you know,

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especially again with myself, if I want to put

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myself at the center of it, I constantly forget

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about all my successes. Everything I do doing

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going forward is like, no, it's going to be,

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it's not going to work. It's not going to work.

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And it's, you have to pause and be like, you

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know, it's the gap in the game. Like where, where

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have I come? What have I already accomplished?

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I can do that again. And if I need some data

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around that to make a more competent decision,

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great. But most likely you've done something

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like this before. True that. And I love that

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you use the analogy of headlights. and shining

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the light on where you're going, what's ahead

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of you, what's possible with that. I'm going

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to use a silly analogy on entrepreneurs, but

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if you're launching a business model and your

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goal is, oh, I'm going to open a Christian bookstore

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with a vape. section, um, and a barbershop and

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a burger stand next to it. You know, it's like,

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maybe you should ask chat GPT a little bit about,

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should you do that or not? Um, as well as people

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like Justin and myself, um, verifying the business

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model, um, you know, making sure that you've

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done your market research, um, making sure that

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you know what you're getting into. It's, it's

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super important to, um, plan and prepare for

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that. Um, so that you don't later have to repent

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and repair, um, what it is that you. strive to

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launch so well we'll lean out of these questions

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a little bit into um your world justin justin

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if there's a a question that you either haven't

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gotten in podcasting or that you've gotten on

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the show and you're like dang that's the question

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that everybody should ask what is it man what

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should we be asking you um in terms of just our

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company or in terms of like what i'm seeing out

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there or what what are your thoughts Just anything

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you need, my friend, whichever direction you

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want. I mean, I know that the vision pros for

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listening in, all of you are in control of what

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you gain out of this. You gain out of this what

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you want to. And Justin, I think what you speak

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is going to probably help somebody no matter

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which direction you go. So what do you feel inspired

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to go to? Yeah, I think I mean, the people the

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question that I like that comes from people is

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like, what what does. What should this look like?

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What should success look like? And not to define

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it as like that there's one answer, but I think

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what people are always wondering is how am I

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doing? I want some affirmation of what I'm doing

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is good or successful in the loose sense of like

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I should be where I'm expected to be with my

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situation. And if I'm not, I want to know about

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it and I want to help correct it. but there's

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a lot of business owners just you know working

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so much in the business and not as much on the

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business and they're running 24 7 just trying

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to you know keep all the keep all the strings

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together and keep you know keep everything operating

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and they don't have a sense of they kind of lose

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the sense of where they're going they kind of

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lose the sense of where they've been how far

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they've come and they just want to feel like

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hey am i am i actually succeeding do i do i have

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some data that tells me yes i'm actually moving

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this thing in a positive direction let's say

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um and it's not all for knots and i'm not just

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spinning my wheels and and feeling stuck even

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though i might be emotionally so so to put some

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again take the emotions out of it to give them

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some reassurance of this is what you've done.

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Because I've run into business owners that they

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have no idea that they've either gotten a lot

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worse or a lot better year to year. And it's

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like, hey, let's highlight those successes and

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let's try to replicate those. But they don't

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necessarily take the time to do it or they don't

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know how to understand what those metrics are

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that I should be looking at. But just asking

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yourself and your business to try to take a step

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back, look at where you've come from. Again,

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and kind of where you're going. And if you can't

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determine, you know, what that data is or what

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those measurements are for success or progression

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or, you know what I mean? It's not about perfection.

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It's about progress. How do I how do I get that

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so I can feel good about what I'm doing and I

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can double down on that and I can pull back from

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some other areas that might be detracting from

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the business. Just to get a sense of that is

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can be huge for for the business owner mentally

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and emotionally. If you know, you know. All right.

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Those of you visionaries who are far enough along

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that success is actually like happening, but

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you're maybe stuck in that grind and that hustle

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mode. And you know exactly what Justin's talking

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about. For those of you who may be a bit newer

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and haven't quite tasted that and feel like maybe

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a little bit of despair or maybe like, I don't

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know when I'm going to get there. I'm sure one

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example. of something similar to that so we worked

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with f5 mortgage back when we very first started

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this company and they had been in business for

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a year and the business owner was actually doing

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quite well but he didn't feel like he was um

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and how he felt lost and exactly what justin's

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describing and um one of the things that he wanted

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to do was shut down his call center in the philippines

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and i was like just give me three days to run

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some numbers on this and so i ran some numbers

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in the call center after getting some metrics

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from about what was uh what were his performance

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rates what uh was his profit margins what did

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that look like and it turned out that on this

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system he was spending about seven thousand per

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month on it and he was making thirty two thousand

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and direct take home roi and i'm like dude don't

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shut this down he's like well you know he's so

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stressed with the management of it and trying

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to do it as kind of a solopreneur mindset i was

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like look let me train them I'll spend one hour

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per week with them. I won't take a lot of time.

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And I'll find out what's going on. We'll fix

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some things. And he's like, all right, fine.

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And so I jumped in. I listened to some phone

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calls that they did. And I realized nobody knew

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how to talk about the brand. And so even though

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they were doing really well financially, there

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was still a lot of opportunity to optimize. And

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so I went into the next training. And I trained

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the team on how to talk about the brand. And

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people would say, wait, I thought I talked to

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Rocket Mortgage, what's F5 Mortgage, and blah,

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blah, blah. So I went into that training. And

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that very week, they all went. from a 1 % transfer

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rate to a 4 % transfer rate. And the top performer

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went from a 4 % transfer rate to a 16 % transfer

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rate. And so we saw not only a massive potential,

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well, not only a massive increase, it went from

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$32 ,000 with a $7 ,000 spend to $100 ,000 plus

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on the $7 ,000 spend. Now we knew that this other

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person, all I had to do was talk to them now

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and find out what are you doing to make a 14%.

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Transfer rate instead of 4 % so these are the

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these are the types of moves that can be made

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for your business When you're talking to people

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who know how to, well, who have the time to get

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into the details. Whereas you as a visionary,

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you've got a thousand things on your plate and

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it can be very hard to do alone. So I'm all about

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people like Justin Boyd coming in and helping

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businesses with growth. I'll give you the final

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word, Justin, to wrap up. But before I do that,

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if you see that button up there, my friends,

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it says be our guest and you've got a vision,

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you want to come share it with us. Click the

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button, book your appointment, come join us on

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the show and talk about what your vision is,

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how you're helping people out. So Justin, final

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cookie, fortune cookie words. you got for us

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yeah just i mean it comes back to just believing

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in yourself and following your own vision right

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and and figuring out how to how to make money

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around that and delivering that to the world

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and and it's not all about the money it's about

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delivering it to the world and you'll if you

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do if you do if you follow your passion you're

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going to find a way to, you know, the money's

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going to follow if you're doing the right thing.

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So absolutely, you know, don't hold back. Be

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smart about it, but don't hold back and make

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sure it gets out there because we need it all.

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So we need all those visions out there. We really

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do. And so to double down on what Justin said,

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money is a vehicle. And it's a very, very valuable

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vehicle to use to propel your vision. We'll see

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you guys all on the next episode of Vision Pros

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Live. Take care. Bye -bye. Thank you for being

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here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in

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to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing

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your reactions as these episodes continue to

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move forward. This is going to get more and more

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fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a vision pro yourself.
