Hi, Javanka. Good morning to you. Thank you for
having me here. It is truly an honor for giving
me your space to share about my journey, basically
my story. So right now, what you mentioned, currently
what I'm doing is, well, let's just put it this
way. I am the founder of the movement Worthy,
Authentic, and Abundant. Why Worthy? Why authentic?
Why founded? Well, simple. I like to keep things
very simple. Worthy is because you need to find
your worth. So whether you're at a corporate
or whether you're on your entrepreneurial journey,
you have to know your worth. But how do we know
your worth? For me, life had to humble me for
me to really look within. Who am I and what?
Who am I supposed to be and how do I want to
present myself out into the world? And in that,
I need to unlearn a lot of things. Second part
would be authentic. I don't want to say that
it's being loosely used in the world right now,
but truly, if you're not authentic, because everybody's
born an original, nobody's born a copy. right
you are one of one and i also don't believe in
this phrase of one in a million so yes and once
you know your worth that that that means that
takes unrooting certain limiting beliefs that
you have since your your you know childhood or
adolescent years or it could even be your adult
years you present yourself to the world as your
truest essence and automatically this too you'll
be stepping to your most abundant timeline and
that's why it's that tagline of mine yes yes
i love that and um understanding your worth i
i often believe that that that might be the most
complex thing if you don't take time to sit with
yourself And truly, as you mentioned, unlearn
a lot of things because a lot of things that
we tend to do in life is often based on, like
you said, our childhood, the way we grew up,
the environment that we're in. So I truly love
that. And to be authentic, as I mentioned to
you, me coming on here and knowing very little
about you because I want the world to know that,
you know, we're all on this journey. Most of
us are on this journey to. finding who we are
and with who we are definitely determines where
we'll be today and go, you know, in the future,
which means right now we're talking about our
careers and entrepreneurship and what that looks
like for you. So off screen, we did have a conversation
about where you were, your story. Go ahead and
share with everybody else because I'd love for
them to hear it as well. Okay. Right. So my story
is a bit of, there's always, okay, growing up,
I've always been an overachiever. And for most
of the part, it's for good reasons. You know,
I am who I am because of that. And that drive
really drove me to attain what I've attained.
But that also provided me with a very false foundation
of what success. is um or was you know how i
viewed success before now my grew up in a middle
class uh family dad always told me that knowledge
is power education is key so you've got to you
know work excuse my language your ass off at
school so you can you know get the job graduate
become you know the valedictorian and then work
your way up the corporate ladder and i thought
that that was what i envisioned myself and that
was the vision of success that is ideal for me
yes but little did i know it wasn't at all um
when i remember at 17 at 30 at 17 i imagined
my life would be sorted Settle down, have kids,
get my good, on the way to a C -suite position.
Yes. Okay. And taking off those milestone house,
cars, whatever. And all this, the accumulation
of material possessions. Yeah. But at 30, I found
myself divorced, burnout. And having to rethink
about this whole identity that, hey, I used to
be an overachiever, but I don't think I align
with that anymore. In terms of, and the context
is doing things my way and only my way without
regard to what I should be doing, what's aligning,
what is aligned to my soul purpose. Yes. And
that's that for now. Okay. Yeah. No, no, no.
And that's, that's good because at the end of
the day, it tells the journey of what I, our
idea was at such a different age, right? 17 to
30. I hate to say it. I'm 46. So when I say this,
it's not, I don't want it to be bad. It's a big
difference, right? What we think we want at 17
and then what we want at 30. What I thought at
36 and what I think now at 46, I'm like, not
the same. So with that said, you now are an entrepreneur.
And what's the name of your business? Well, it
is the Nick Nearest Holistic Lifestyle. OK. And
with that, with that story and as you told that.
Tell us more about how this fits into who you
are and your purpose now. So, okay. So I guess
that's a follow -up to my story. 2023. So the
whole spiritual awakening, me having to look
within, started my journey inwards, was the year
that I got divorced, 2019. And it's also a year
before COVID. So I thought to myself, okay the
love department isn't for me but that was the
first time that actually felt worthless because
i remember fighting for the um the marriage to
you know to not fall apart but we had to go in
our separate ways um there were things that we
needed to learn separately and things that were
that we thought were right then but it wasn't
right when we got together so i completely shifted
my focus to work because it was at the height
of my career when we got divorced and covid happened
i was like okay you know what i'm gonna nail
this thing i'm gonna get my promotion and i did
but then the second year covid happened i started
getting into projects that were crappy okay i
i i was Totally. I was a star performer during
the first year. And then the second year, the
third year, it became very, I don't know, the
universe is trying to shake me at least at my
core that, hey, Nick, wake up. This is not you
anymore. You're not because you did not. Number
one, I think part of it, I did not grieve about
the loss of the relationship because I felt that
a part of myself really died with that. And then
I just, because it's always go, go, go. For me,
at least before, I operated in the way that if
these things don't work out, I don't need rest.
I mean, it's just not for me. What's the next
best thing for me to work on? And that also means
I was operating more in my masculine energy.
And I never knew or I never really. got in touch
with my feminine side like what's it what does
it look like to just rest and heal and really
process all those emotions and then COVID happened
it was a very humbling journey for me that was
the first time me being alone by myself after
a long -term relationship and then I had to sit
with myself and really feel that was the first
time that I really feel into everything like
every song that i listen to i put myself in the
lyrics and the movies and i would just cry and
cry and cry for days on end and after i fully
i cried like bawling my eyes out um in my own
apartment by myself with my cat i said is this
what it means to be truly alive i had to mourn
the old nicolette In hindsight, me crying was
to mourn that what I identified with before is
no longer my identity now. In 2021, I came across
Mindvalley by Vishen Lakhiani. I came across
Rapid Transformational Therapy by Marisa Peer.
She talks a lot about subconscious reprogramming.
find out about how i could help myself yes and
in turn as well use that to help other people
because i know there's so many people who are
in not so favorable relationship or jobs but
and they're scared to leave because of you know
um that lack of stability or sense of security
right and i said let me be the trailblazer because
you know from accounting to psychology like how
big of a difference it is super fast so i took
two years to find out um to really think when
i saw the course it was quite expensive and it
was kobe and i'm like am i gonna stay in this
job i don't know how am i gonna afford this never
mind two years later and i was during this period
i was already into the spiritual realm like deep
into it. Carl Jung, Alan Watts, divination tools,
anything, everything and anything I understand
because I wanted to know who I am and what is
my purpose. So, and I believe, I don't, I believe
in this phrase, do not look at the message, do
not look at the messenger, but look at the message.
So everything around us is, there's, the universe
is always communicating. It is up to us to be
very silent and intentional. to receive all these
guides yeah so 2023 scrolling on my instagram
i saw the same post um the course and i'm like
you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna heed to that
advice to your advice so i called them up and
i signed up it was it was i think 30 more expensive
than the second but but i really believed in
it and i believe in myself and i just there's
like a a download like it felt right yeah so
in 2023 signed up and because at the time my
self -esteem was really battered from the i would
say mistreatment or the way i was treated in
my um the the the job that i had my burnout from
i had to regain and rebuild that so i thought
to myself nick what can you do to rebuild your
confidence what what what is your natural um
strength or flair you like to talk to people
and i said okay then let's start a talk show
i said okay what's the what's the free um avenue
to do that a podcast have the team edit everything
out thank you so much So for those, we do podcast
at home. That's what we do. You know? Yes. Yes.
This great studio. So Nick, my sincere apology.
The pups was just, no, you're good. And it was,
it's so funny as we're talking about aura and
being free. Yeah. The puppies come in and the
aura and the freedom. I'm like wrong. Freedom.
No. This is real life stuff that happens. Geez,
in entrepreneurship is what we're talking about.
I don't have it on this, right? Oh, my goodness.
Well, as you were going and you were talking
about, you know, going from accounting into this
and then being in 2023 and now paying almost
30 % more. I cannot not say that 30 % more it
is expensive right and it often happens in a
timing that fits best with you so considering
or thinking about the fact that you this was
a journey from 2019 all the way to 2023 you have
now developed this this podcast to have this
discussion And now a business as an entrepreneur.
And I want I do want to say this. I know I talk
probably just as much as everybody else. But
you said that you were you were an all in kind
of person like you were. You go all in and you
reach this level. You're doing the same thing,
just in a different way. And I'm super, super
proud of you because it's a big difference when
you do it to make it to a C -suite from a difference
where you're making it. to feel sweet and give
it all back to other people and that's what you're
doing so go all in on this and that's what you
did just a little 30 more but go all in on this
because i'm here for the journey nick i'm here
for the journey oh my god that you just you're
just making my evening better javanka i'm gonna
sleep better tonight but yes to echo on that
like and you mentioned just before we started
the interview why would you want to build somebody
else's dreams when you can build yours you're
already putting two thousand percent into it
what if you actually put that two thousand percent
into your own thing and be that light that people
need in the world because i believe everybody
has gifts yes and i'm not saying people in nine
to five don't have gifts no you might be very
content and very full with you know joy and happiness
just by doing say for example um uh what's what's
a good um uh just a trainer for example yeah
they love to train people um on boarding new
new employees and they do a excuse my language
a damn good job at it and they take pride into
that so it's the same thing yes but for me i'm
uh i'm a non -conformist I could only confirm
for so long. Yes. And I noticed when people,
because I wouldn't want to take advice from people
who I don't want to live their lives. Yes. Yeah.
So if I don't see you are, I mean, on that par
where I want to be, you're not there. Yeah. And
I think what you're saying, it sounds to me like
even just having a mentor or someone's desire
to to be where they are. You can't follow everyone.
Right. And I believe it is very interesting.
We shouldn't follow anyone. It's the idea of
their lifestyle is something that you would like
to entertain or you want for yourself. Makes
all the sense in the world. But I get what you're
saying. For myself, how am I going to sit here
and listen to you when you haven't done what
I'm doing? You know, you get a couple of steps
before, you know, and you know, yes, people haven't
done the work. Yeah, because they're at this
step that I'm trying to get to. But you don't
have a story so much like yourself. Life is a
story. And if you don't sit with it, you said
there was a moment where you sat and you felt
the songs and you felt the movies and you put
yourself in there. If that moment hasn't arrived
in some people's lives and they want to give
back, I don't know if that would be effective
for what you're doing right now. Because if we
go with the mind and not the heart, the mind
is telling us, hey, let's do this, let's do that.
saw you for something you are the yeah the angels
speaking to you right now thank you interesting
enough is is when you I wonder, do people understand,
even in podcasts, there is still a transfer of
energy. There is a look on our face. There is
an engagement in our body. And that still happens.
And so for those that aren't actually watching
this, there is a transfer of energy. There's
an energy that speaks joy, that speaks happiness,
that speaks understanding. And with what you're
doing now, I'm sure. That's how you're carrying
this business on. So how has it been and how
long have you been doing this? OK, so booted
out last year. So I took at least a good few
months to think about where I'm going to live
next to keep my overhead slow because I don't
want to go to corporate. So I took my trip. uh
last year i went to the states and simply because
most of my guests are from the states and um
and i actually met up with them and because i
know this is not it's it's a we're in it for
the long run right relationship building um relationship
and so august 2024 i registered it in my home
base which is malaysia And 2025, February, I
came out to the world that says, hey, I've transitioned.
And, okay, of course, prior to that, I had been
coaching some people for free because they all
come to me for advice. And I just want to help
people, but it can be very draining, Javanka.
So I have to learn how to draw the line, the
energetic boundaries. And then in 2025, I broadcasted
to the world that, hey, I've transitioned. So
the responses were half and half. Some were like,
oh, my God, Nick, you are, I'm so proud of you.
You're finally following what you feel right
in your soul. But some were like, hmm. But we
know they're watching. When we put the content
out there, we know they're watching, even though
they're no likes. So I kept on putting my stuff
out there. Some people came to me and very, very,
I guess a prominent example would be a lady.
She found me on Google and she just said, I needed
somebody to help me with my spiritual integration.
I said, okay. I think because I also do, I'm
very intuitive. Now I'm leaning into what I've
always been good at, but I kind of put that aside.
And she was like, the way she was saying those
things, we were like connecting just like virtually
like this. And she said, girl, I think you're
the one that I need to work with. So I said,
okay, you know what? Well, let's do this. So
ever since then, I've had some clients in person.
And right now, Javonica, I'm still building.
But I believe, again, it had to go back to my
self -worth. Because when you are an entrepreneur
online, when you're a life coach or you're doing
programs, when you're especially pricing, you
need to know your worth and you need to believe
your worth. So I had the biggest work was on
that. And some people, the right people will
be repelled. They will repel because they're
not ready for you just yet. But the right ones
will say, you're the right person that I'm looking
for. Here, take my money. So I believe in that.
And right now, some of my clients are short -term
basis. So the long -term ones, I'm still looking
for them. But I know they're out there. Because
it's just been, let me see, February, July, five
months in? Yes. But I believe in myself and I
believe in the mission. Absolutely. Absolutely.
And I'm super proud of you. And it's funny how
you say it was half and half. Some people say
they're proud of you. The other people are still
in question. Yes. And interesting enough, I'm
going to say this because I feel it. those are
the people that are scared to jump. Exactly.
You said it. Yes, yes, yes. You're thinking it.
I was just watching the movie. I swear, I was
just watching it. I had to do it. You see the
residents? And those are the people that are
that. Fear. And I just said this in another one
of my podcasts. When when people talk about jumping,
they think automatically they're going to fall.
But what if you jump and fly? You know, and sometimes
it's not not not. Of course, it's in the thought.
It's in metaphorically kind of thinking it's
sometimes somebody needs to push you. And that's
the universe kicking you out of an area. to where
you thought you were super comfortable, but it's
not where you thrive at. So in all, I want to,
I'm going to ask, and even though, you know,
we're near the end, but it's really important
to understand that Vision Pros Live talks about
visions and things like that. But we also have
to inform everyone that entrepreneurship and
business, nothing happens overnight. In this
moment and time in your life, in the five months.
that you've created this business of helping
people tell me about your vision well words are
spells right so i'm putting this out in the universe
my vision is to create my first ever retreat
next year 2026 between now to then i'll be holding
some master classes cohorts where i will be teaching
about expansive how to expand worthiness expansion
so it's going to be in under the umbrella worthiness
being authentic and being abundant what does
it mean to each one of you because everybody
has a different definition um to that so that's
the vision and you guys heard it as well as i
did in 2026 her first retreat regarding worthiness,
authenticity, the abundance of life. I'm for
it. I'm totally for it. With all of that, it's
amazing. And again, I've said it probably twice
already. I'm super proud of you for taking that
leap, regardless if it was one that you wanted
to do or one that you were pushed to do. How
can people learn more about you? So your website
and your social media handles, please. Oh, thank
you. I love this part. Okay, so I've been pushing
out my content on my Real Summit podcast for
the longest time, but right now I've started,
push it again, breaking that barrier, creating
Talking Heads content. So I'm available on all
platforms, at least not Snapchat, though. I'm
on X, I'm on Instagram, I am on LinkedIn, I am
on Spotify. for my long -form episode, and I'm
on YouTube as well, so that's both my long -form
and my short -form. But my house, virtual house,
would be my website. It is www .thenicknieresholistic,
there's a W before the H, holisticlifestyle .com,
so you can find an array of my digital guides,
my offerings, my energy readings, my podcasts,
appearances. And also my testimonials. Thank
you for being here today. I'm really happy that
you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking
forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes
continue to move forward. This is going to get
more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement
as well. We'll invite people to participate in
the show. And thank you for giving us your time
and attention. Have an excellent time building
out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.