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mike would you please introduce yourself uh yeah

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sue um i am mike tedasco i'm a visiting fellow

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at the ai center at san diego state university

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um my background i used to run the innovation

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team at paypal um before that i was like an accountant

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way back in the day and i uh i don't know i'm

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just very fascinated about the world of ai and

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helping to kind of see where that goes and how

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that's going to change change everything for

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us it's very exciting time it really is it's

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a huge can of worms isn't it it is it is yes

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um yeah unlike any kind of worms we've ever seen

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in our society before so it's going to be it's

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a very different can for sure all right by visiting

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fellow so are would this be like in the business

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business department or like because the background

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would be businessy Yeah, so AI centers are various

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different places at different universities. At

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San Diego State, it's in the Fowler School of

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Business. So yes, it's actually in the business

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center there. The AI center was started about

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seven years ago. And we do a lot of things, just

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like various aspects of research, you know, work

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with different, you know. government and non

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-governmental organizations in the research that

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we do. We play around with robots. We build models.

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We do all this other kind of stuff as part of

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that. Yeah. That's really cool. All right. Well,

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I want to hear about your vision for the people

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that you're serving. So I know you're dealing

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with a lot of students. Are you also inventing,

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like, what does this look like? How are you serving?

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Yeah. I mean, first, maybe describe who I serve.

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I'm here to... Like students and those who want

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to learn is who I am here to serve, ultimately.

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Started writing about AI in 2022 because nobody

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was really writing about it and writing about

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it in very common terms. And it was kind of bothering

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me. This was before ChatGPT or anything like

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that. And I'm like, my gosh, like there was a

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lot of very technical stuff out there, but there

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wasn't any stuff really for normies. And I consider

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myself to be a normie. I'm kind of an accountant

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to, you know, learn about technology and all

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this. But like at my age, I'm not. I can't code.

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I'm not an engineer. All this other kind of stuff

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is part of that. So I've been building that out.

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So the vision I have is to basically explain

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what is probably going to be the most impactful

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technology we will ever see in our lifetimes.

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Explain that in real terms to people. And make

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it so that people aren't afraid of it and are

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willing to just kind of get their hands dirty

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and try and play with these things. Because the

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only way you're really going to learn how to

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use these AI tools is to just get in there and

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try it out yourself. For sure. And, you know,

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it is you see these ads constantly on YouTube

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going, you know, most people are using it like

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Google. You ask a question, you copy paste, whatever.

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There's so much more to this. I don't think that

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anybody has really you know, there's people freaking

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out. There's people who like, oh, yeah, I use

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it every day. But I don't think anybody has really

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comprehended the full extent of where this could

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go. And that's that's absolutely true. And that's

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also true for the people who made this technology.

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I mean, this is really the first technology that

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has infinite capabilities. So there are ways

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that people are using it day in and day out that

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were never the intention or never the vision

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of anybody who created this. And that's the really

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exciting thing about this. By building a community,

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by sharing it with others, by learning from other

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people, it becomes this amazing tool to better

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our own lives. And I could talk through at some

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point all the ways it's changed both personally

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and professionally, how I do things, how I operate.

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That's worked really well for me. And it's going

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to be a little bit different for every other

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person out there. And that's kind of the exciting

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thing about this. What's been the most impactful

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thing so far for you of those things that you

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refer to? i'd say health is probably the number

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one thing uh i at some points made a personal

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decision that i'm just going to put all of my

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health data into an ai and just have that where

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i can speak to it and i could ask you questions

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and it could give me very nuanced uh personalized

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thoughts and so and you know sometimes It's hard

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to get access to a doctor. Sometimes it's not

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the right time. Sometimes, I don't know, I'm

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too embarrassed to ask a doctor about this, whatever

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it might be. Or sometimes I'm like, I'm going

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to go see a doctor and I need better guidance.

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I want to go in more educated and ask better

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questions and have a more nuanced discussion.

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Like it just led to so many different things

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with that. I mean, just, you know, how I live

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my life and how I kind of just operate and so

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forth. so much insight into that. So like that's

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for me has been the one way that has really been

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clear. That's cool. And then how do you, what

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would your dream come true? Yeah. You have the

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influence, the impact that you want to have,

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you know, writing, speaking, whatever else that

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you can do. Like, what would you like to accomplish?

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What would you like to have be your legacy relative

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to how people understand and use AI? Look, I'm

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not going to do this myself, but I will kind

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of I want to get to that question, though, because

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it is really interesting. Like the end game for

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this for me and like this world of AI is that

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we have these amazing tools and they're there

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to serve us. I mean, because and I say they I

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don't want to even anthropomorphize that these

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these are computer programs that are there to

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serve us, make our lives easier, help us connect

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and so forth. um but are not so integrated in

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our lives that we can never turn them off um

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that's the other thing i would say like i don't

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want us to become over like it's been hugely

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impactful but i don't want to be overly dependent

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on this i don't you know i don't want a future

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where our friends are ais because i don't believe

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you can have a friend that is an ai but like

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some people do like i I hope it's a human first

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future where we have these amazing systems that

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anybody with access to internet or a phone is

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going to be able to have access to this brilliant

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model that will be able to do anything that you

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want from it. That's neat. And how are you working

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toward that? I mean, one of the things I'm doing,

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and this is like what I'm describing is like,

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you know, a thousand on a scale and what i'm

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doing is 0 .01 like on that because there's so

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many things that because that would like truly

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reshape humanity um one of the things that i'm

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actually working on right now in my research

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is i'm really curious about people's perception

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of creative works in ai versus in humans and

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i'm actually that's where i'm focusing my research

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right now is just in that track because i do

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believe it's going to and i see this with myself

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that it will enable us to become more creative

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to do more and so forth and it's going to be

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able to make us more human but i think the perception

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is that well you use an ai that's not really

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being creative and to me it's just another tool

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just like you know if you take a photo with a

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photograph yeah that's different than making

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a painting but it's an art form into itself and

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i'm and i'm hope that we can get more in that

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direction because you know I don't want to see

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art go away I don't want to see artists go away

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but I want to see it like become its own thing

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and so a lot of the research I'm doing is at

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that intersection okay and so that results in

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you know academic publishing or Look, I hope,

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oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So there's definitely some

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studies I'm doing that will be published and

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so forth that are around that area, 100%. I just

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want us to live in a, I hope that this leads

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to us working less. I mean, I've written about

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this a lot. As a society, we are working less.

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I know it doesn't feel like that to everybody,

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but like if you actually look over the last 100,

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150 years, like we work less overall over time.

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I hope. You know, we've had everyone from Richard

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Nixon to Bernie Sanders talk about the four hour

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work week. And, you know, that's kind of both

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ends of the political spectrum in many ways.

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They're like, I want us to go there as a society.

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And I want to have more room for all of us to

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be more artistic, more creative, to be able to

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do all of those kind of things that are really

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human endeavors as part of that and to be able

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to use these tools for more of that. That's great.

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Will this also result in a consumer -facing book

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or is it just going to be the academic or what

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will happen? I hope not. Books are too much work

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to write. I've actually been writing children's

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books completely unrelated to AI. These books

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are like 30 pages long and it took me like 12

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months to write three of these things. It's amazing

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how much... for anybody out there who doesn't

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read books like read books like good god i try

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and read 40 50 books a year personally um it

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is the best bang for your buck and be able to

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take information that somebody will spend years

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on and within a few hours you're going to be

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able to digest all of that information into your

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own brain it's it's so efficient um books are

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a lot of work so i have a newsletter people can

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subscribe that's free go for that i'm not ambitious

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enough anymore to to write a book. I don't think

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so. Yeah. If somebody wants to take all those

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and make it into a book, they could have at it.

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Right, right. So what's your vision long -term

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then? What are you aiming for? What's the hill?

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What's the mountain? Honestly, I just want to

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impact as many people I can. And this is the

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next wave of... humanity that we're going to

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have here i love working with startups i love

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working with entrepreneurs who are just start

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i mean that's most of my morning is just talking

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with one entrepreneur after the next about what

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they're doing is there any way that i can help

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in their journeys or anything like that i'm 47

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years old now i kind of feel like i'm in that

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next phase where i got the gray hairs and been

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through and seen a few things in my past where

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i want to help people along with that so um My

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vision is really to help the next set of builders

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and inspire the next set of builders. This is

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going to be a difficult time. I talk a lot about

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solopreneurship, the thought that the only job

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that I know that's going to exist in five or

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10 years is a one -person company that is going

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to have hundreds or thousands or tens of thousands

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of AI agents working. I know that business will

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exist. there will be other businesses there will

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be other jobs out there but the direction that

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we're going is like that is going to take on

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a whole new era a whole new meaning that it didn't

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have before um and i want to help you know prepare

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more people for that entrepreneurial journey

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as well that's interesting so will you be doing

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that as like a consultant or like what How do

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you like to work with people? I'm cheap. I'm

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free. People just email me. I'm not like, no,

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I'm good. I reach out usually through my network.

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People just reach out to me directly. You can

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find me on LinkedIn. I'm able to help you out.

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I just kind of do that. Thank you for being here

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today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to

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Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing

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your reactions as these episodes continue to

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move forward. This is going to get more and more

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fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a vision pro yourself.