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Janet, would you please introduce yourself? Yes,

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thank you. So my name is Janet Schultz, and I'm

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owner and founder of Blue Jay Cleaning Business

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in a Box. I'm a mother of two adult children.

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I'm a grandmother of two. I'm a special education

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teacher and a social entrepreneur. That's pretty

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cool. All right. How did this Blue Jay in a Box

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happen? Well, it happened back in 2000. Well,

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I've always had the entrepreneurial spirit within

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me. As far as I can remember, I always had dabbled

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into businesses, home -based businesses. So that

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was just kind of a part of who I was. I'm a risk

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taker at heart. So I feel like you have to have

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that sense of adventure to be an entrepreneur.

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And I definitely have that. But I was in the

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classroom for many years. for the reason of needing

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to make a living so I did that and then it was

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uh in 2007 I got remarried and in that relationship

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he had a a construction company and so I came

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alongside of him and I helped you know in that

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construction company and really enjoyed for the

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first time I had you know a business that entrepreneurial

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part of me came out and was allowed to blossom

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so i realized some things about myself some things

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that i was naturally suited for marketing sales

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i'm very good with people and just have a sense

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of what works and what doesn't so it really gave

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me a forum to kind of grow in those areas and

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unfortunately things did not work out and i was

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once again faced with a life altering life happening

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i .e divorce and had to go back into the work

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force and having had a taste of being an entrepreneur

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i knew i could not go back in the classroom i

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would be like a bird in a cage and so i was undergoing

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trauma at the same time because like i said it

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was not an expected or a wanted situation so

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i was thrust and you know trying to figure things

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out you know i've got to support myself again

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you know and i don't recommend that for anybody

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but that was where i was And so I began to, when

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I was a single mother the first time and raised

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my two girls, I taught school and cleaned houses

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on the side. And I'm very good at cleaning. I'm

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very detailed, oriented, but I certainly don't

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like it. But I'm good at it. What I do like is

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having my own business, being a small business

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owner, which I very much support small businesses

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in my community. And so, you know, having, okay,

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that, no, what can I do? I don't want to go back

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in the classroom. Oh, okay, I'll start a cleaning

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company. And so, okay, so I'm going to do that.

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And now I need to come up with a name. And so

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I want it to be eco -friendly. And blue was a

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synonymous color with clean. And J for Janet,

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my name. So it had no reference to the bird.

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Now, later on down. two years down the road so

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blue became obvious that it was the color of

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autism awareness which at the time two years

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prior i didn't know that so things are starting

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to connect and play out so um fast forward i

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started shooting out emails to my friends and

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and all that and they could tell they could read

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between the lines things aren't going well janet's

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in and um she's having some trouble so they all

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rallied around me and gave me work well sue it

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became obvious that i was growing way too fast

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for me to do all the cleaning so it was time

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for me to start bringing employees on to help

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me and at that time i i was doing residential

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And we found our niche in small office cleaning.

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So we're not competing with other big cleaning

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companies that would clean hospitals and large

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corporations, warehouses. That was not our competition.

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So we kind of fell in with our own niche with

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small office. And I had people say, do you really

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think there's a market for that? and i said yes

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and that became true that there is a niche for

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that and a need so when i began to bring people

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on i was quickly disappointed and disillusioned

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and discouraged and frustrated you know people

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wouldn't show up i they came with attitudes they

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wouldn't clean the way i would tell them to because

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early on sue i developed a cleaning process this

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is how you clean a bathroom this is how you um

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clean windows so everything was broken down in

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the task analysis and that was the teacher part

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of me coming out oh yeah but no you know i they

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you know the comment well i i know how to clean

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well no you don't because cleaning for a business

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is different than you cleaning your home is is

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different so just came with so many issues and

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and just out of pure desperation I just cried

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out you know um I call it a prayer you know but

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just to cry out you know where are my employees

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and then all of a sudden it just came to me that

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I need to look and it was an epiphany um it came

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to me that Well, you need to look at people on

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the spectrum. Well, consequently, in my teaching

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days in the classroom, I taught what in North

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Carolina, we have a diploma track, which allowed

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students to gain work hours towards a certificate

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to a high school diploma and teach them work

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related skills. And that's what I did. And I

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that was my I was in my zone with that. And also

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people with autism, we just got each other. I

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got them and they got me. So we just naturally

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gravitated. And so informally, nothing formal,

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but recently I've been informally diagnosed with

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perhaps having adult autism. As a woman, it's

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very different looking than it is in a male.

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Yeah, so that's interesting. So I just, you know,

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didn't want to just jump on that bandwagon. It

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needed to make sense. So I started listening,

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you know, and doing some research and talking

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to people in that world that I happen to have

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connections with. And I was told that by someone

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in Autism Speaks that I would see, and back then

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it was 2014. And then she said, you would start.

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She said, Janet, you're going to start seeing

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or we are as a culture will start seeing companies

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like yours, social enterprises, because I wanted

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to align myself with a cause. I didn't want to

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just have a business. I wanted to have a business

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that had a cause behind it. You know, so I was

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searching for that cause. You know, would it

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be veterans? Would it be? human trafficking would

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it be prisoner you know i was just look still

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looking for that that cause so now okay this

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is my cause and so she taught she said you would

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see a lot of companies like blue jay starting

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up because you have kids that now are have graduated

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through the system are now adults At home, very

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capable, but cannot find a job. And if they have

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a job, they do not have skills to keep that job.

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So I thought that makes sense because, you know,

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what the crisis in our society is that people

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with disabilities and autism falls into that

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have the highest unemployment rate. Oh, yeah.

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so it affects us all we are all now in this day

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and time affected or know someone that is affected

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by autism and um are faced with those challenges

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you know parents are faced with those challenges

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what happens after high school you know and i

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chose to be a social enterprise over a non -profit

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because a social enterprise to me i can do was

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a business for profit that addresses a social

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need, and that's a high unemployment rate of

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those on the spectrum. But we also involve ourselves

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into our community. It's a community -based model

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that we integrate ourselves into the community.

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Some of the things that we did, we got involved

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in fostering the pet fostering community. We

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got involved in gardening for the community.

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So we did a lot, you know, not outside of ourselves.

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And that's being a social enterprise, you know,

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doing things in your community, you know, sharing,

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giving back. Yes, I'm giving back to people with

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autism and giving them a job opportunity. But

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we got to think beyond that, the business itself.

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And so I just, it seemed like everywhere I went,

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I was hearing someone that had autism. So I just

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really, okay, I stood up and took notice. And

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then the word got out in our little community

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that I was looking to do that. And we even were

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awarded a grant by Autism Speaks in the beginning

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because they were behind us. They wanted us to

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succeed. There was nothing like this. There are

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other nonprofits, not a cleaning business, but

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there is one that I know of in Chapel Hill. But

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it's a nonprofit. But this is the first that

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I know of this kind that I developed for and

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in part by those on the alternative. They had

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input into this business model. that is duplicable

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and is a prototype that we can pass off to someone

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else for them to do what we did in our community.

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So cool. And so people with autism, I sought

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them out. Why? Well, not only did they face challenges

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in the workforce, but they had the skills I needed.

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Dependability, reliability, honesty to a fault.

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They're routine -driven. They get better with

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time. And they don't get bored with it. They're

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not going to get involved in drama. They go there

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and they work. They don't involve themselves

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in chit -chat. And they're detail -driven. Now,

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you can't put everybody in a box, Sue. Okay?

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So some people didn't make the cut. And it is

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a business. So you had to interview. And our

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interview process was by way of job shadowing.

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Because, you know, they don't do well in the

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social realm. That's a challenge. But we don't

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shy away from those challenges. We meet them

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head on. And they were able to, within Blue Jay,

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it was like a cocoon because I understood them.

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And they were able to gain confidence and achieve

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success. and failure, which is very important.

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We have to allow our young people everywhere

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to fail. We cannot deny them that. And build

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their resume. Everybody who came through Blue

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Jay as a person on the spectrum, this was their

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first job. So we still have some. I sold the

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first Blue Jay that I had for 12, 13 years back

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in 2021. Because what I'm doing now, promoting

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the Blue Jay business in a box, is what I intended

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all along to do. But some are working still with

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Blue Jay. And then some have gone on Adam. He

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gained a lot of confidence within himself. got

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his license to drive he became a team leader

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he became able to take people to jobs and and

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back um and then he got he didn't want to work

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for blue jay anymore not there was anything wrong

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with it but he had he had aspirations for himself

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working for federal express was his dream job

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and that's where he is today and so i was able

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to help him develop those skills and confidence

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it was so we're mentors too yeah and and and

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we're in bringing education to the public that

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they come in you know our clients and so forth

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because they may be the only person that they've

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ever met with autism i told them i said you're

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on display you know people are watching you and

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so we became like family and so clients that

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are attracted to us Our clients, well, first

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of all, mom and pops, usually small business,

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because the bigger companies really don't want

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to come and clean their small office. So we're

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filling a need for them. And consistency, people

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on the spectrum offer me consistency because

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they will follow the process. They will not get

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bored with a routine. So that is a big key in

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the cleaning world that is a big need, finding

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a consistent. cleaning company so we met that

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need and they liked being a part of something

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bigger than just hiring a cleaning company so

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they got to involve themselves with our our workers

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and so they developed relationships and they

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learned communication and it was just endless

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the the you know once a teacher always the teacher

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right so i wasn't in the classroom anymore but

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yet i was so it was just natural and i don't

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know how much time we have but um i think the

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most inspiring things um would be to share some

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stories because it's not just my story i want

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to tell it's their story and i owe everything

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to them because like i said in the beginning

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when i was undergoing starting this business

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i was undergoing such emotional trauma that they

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hung in there with me They were so patient with

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me because I wasn't always on the top of my game.

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You know, I owe so much to them. So, yeah. Yeah,

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I definitely want to hear that. I also want to

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hear first, though, like. Where do you want this

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to go? You know, so now you had Blue Jay and

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now it's Blue Jay business in a box. So people

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are able to talk a little bit about that and

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what you want that to become. And yes, definitely

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like inspire with those stories because that's

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that's huge. All right. So what is my vision

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for Blue Jay? Cleaning business in a box. My

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vision is, well, is to have it everywhere, you

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know, because it. it cannot it doesn't just work

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in concord north carolina i've got one that's

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starting up this month in greensboro north carolina

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so it's not just a north carolina thing it's

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a colorado thing it's a canada thing it's a community

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thing uh in the philippines it because everywhere

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people are affected you know by you know the

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the working issue that people on the spectrum

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face. So it solves a problem. I'm the type of

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person, Sue, that if I have always been this

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way, and I guess it's the best explanation. If

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I see a problem and I just get a passion about

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it and I can see a solution, I'm going to do

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what I can. to do to make that solution happen

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you know if it's just in my little circle um

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so my vision is that it would be everywhere that's

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that that's possible you know and what i'm trying

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to do now is align my finding those non -profits

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or other businesses or groups that we share the

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same goal in the end but I'd like to align myself

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with them so that maybe they're looking to start

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to a business so that they can employ people

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in their community their group home you know

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and so it it could be that's kind of what i would

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like to do is and it seems like it's happening

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because um that i am i'm going to be speaking

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at an event not far from concord in july and

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i've been invited to a networking group here

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in charlotte so you know that's kind of i gotta

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align myself um with people like that And then

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just for people, parents, special educators like

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myself, people that want to be a part of something

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bigger, that want to give back to their community,

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to help give someone a helping hand, not a handout,

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because this is not about that at all. I do not

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coddle my autistic employees. I probably expected

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and was harder on them than I was anyone else.

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i didn't rate i didn't lower the bar the bar

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was high and they reached it every time so it's

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not about that it's not a handout at all and

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not everybody gets a job with blue jay and sometimes

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i had to fire some because they weren't ready

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emotionally or socially and behaviorally so you

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know there's a lot of factors that go into but

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by it is not i'm not giving anyone a job i'm

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offering them an opportunity that's beautiful

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tell me your favorite success story okay i'm

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going to tell you about eric since i've already

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told you about adam eric was my first person

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that i hired on the spectrum and and i want to

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make sure everybody understands that i saw these

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guys out because they had the skill set i needed

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so we helped each other So Eric was my first

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hire and I was told that Eric really probably

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wouldn't be able to work independently. And so

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you have to be able to work independently. So

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I, I didn't believe that. And so in the end,

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Eric was allowed. I trusted Eric. And see, I

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expected of him and expected of all my employees

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until I was proven otherwise. And so once Eric

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lived with his mom and she had developed cancer

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and she was no longer, this particular day, she

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was no longer able to take him to work. Now,

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at this time, Eric had been with Blue Jay for

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a little while. He had earned the right to have,

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he got promoted. He got a raise. He was what

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we call the keeper of the keys. And there was

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a pretty large ring of keys. And nobody dared

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take those keys away from Eric. And they tried,

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but didn't succeed. And I told that person who

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was not on the spectrum, like you and me, I said,

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you've got to trust Eric with the keys. He's

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the keeper of those keys. Do not take those keys

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from Eric. And some people couldn't understand.

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I know I'm rambling. some people couldn't understand

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how i was able to give them so much responsibility

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you know i trusted them you know they were that

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they were the ones in charge a lot of the times

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so eric found himself and i couldn't take eric

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this particular time he never asked me either

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but it became apparent later that when eric was

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on his job i don't know how it came up in conversation

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But I said, Eric, how did you get to work today?

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He said, well, I took the bus. And Eric really

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didn't talk much. You wouldn't say he was nonverbal,

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but he didn't talk much. And so I said, you wrote

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the bus? He said, yeah. I said, well, how did

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you know what bus to take? He said, I got on

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the computer and I looked at the bus routes that

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I would need to take from my house area to my

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job. And that's what I did. And I said, how about

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the vacuum cleaner? Because we had so little

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capital that we only had like one vacuum cleaner

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for many jobs. So we had to take that vacuum

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cleaner all around. We had humble beginnings,

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believe me. And so he said, I just took it with

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me on the bus. And so Eric, to everyone's surprise,

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you see what I'm saying? Do you get what I'm

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trying to say? no one told eric that he he didn't

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ask anyone he took responsibility for his own

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self he had a problem how am i going to get to

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work he figured it out he figured it out and

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if given that opportunity they can do it see

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that's what blue jay gave them it gave them an

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opportunity to not be not to depend on someone,

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a job coach or a teacher, to tell them the next

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move to make. Because a lot of times in school,

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they become what I call Q -dependent. They are

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not allowed to problem solve and then figure

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it out. Whether they make a mistake or not, that's

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part of life. So they're not protected from those

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things. But encouraged, they've given the space.

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And evidently, he gained the confidence within

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himself to do that. And when Eric had to leave

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and move to South Carolina because his mother

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passed away and he moved in with his sister,

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it was a big loss. Oh, yeah. It was a big loss

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when we lost Eric. Thank you for being here today.

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