WEBVTT

00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.200
Please do me a favor for those that are just

00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:04.400
listening. Share your first name, last name,

00:00:04.540 --> 00:00:06.700
the name of your business company or anything

00:00:06.700 --> 00:00:09.939
that you do and also where you're located. Sure.

00:00:10.000 --> 00:00:13.839
Thank you. My name is Dan Schinder. No C, no

00:00:13.839 --> 00:00:17.879
L. It's Schinder. S -H -I -N -D -E -R. Easy.

00:00:18.339 --> 00:00:22.079
And I have two companies. The first company is

00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:25.000
Drum Talk TV Incorporated. We're 12 and a half

00:00:25.000 --> 00:00:28.839
years old. I founded it January 7th of 2020.

00:00:30.099 --> 00:00:34.060
And in our first year, because we skyrocketed

00:00:34.060 --> 00:00:36.520
way past everybody in our space, we were the

00:00:36.520 --> 00:00:39.659
newest brand by 10 years. It inspired me to start

00:00:39.659 --> 00:00:42.039
a marketing, coaching and consulting training

00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:45.240
company to teach. I felt a responsibility to

00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:48.380
teach and share the strategies I used of how

00:00:48.380 --> 00:00:51.020
we grew even in that first year organically.

00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:54.920
We've reached 100 million people a year online

00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:58.899
without spending any money. So that second company

00:00:58.899 --> 00:01:01.939
was kind of born out of that. I'm located way

00:01:01.939 --> 00:01:05.900
far away from anything now. I'm originally from

00:01:05.900 --> 00:01:08.180
Los Angeles. My wife's from Bronx, New York.

00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:10.920
We lived in Las Vegas for years. And now we live

00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:14.840
in a very, very tiny city of about 7 ,500 people

00:01:14.840 --> 00:01:18.819
called Globe, Arizona. It's 100 miles east of

00:01:18.819 --> 00:01:23.090
Phoenix up in the mountains. We were pretty productive

00:01:23.090 --> 00:01:26.189
as people and entrepreneurs, but when we moved

00:01:26.189 --> 00:01:29.469
and changed the whole vibration of where we were

00:01:29.469 --> 00:01:33.650
compared to the cities, you know, over stimulation,

00:01:34.150 --> 00:01:37.530
we got even more productive. I mean, it was truly

00:01:37.530 --> 00:01:42.430
an instant transformation. That's what I do.

00:01:42.549 --> 00:01:46.390
That's where I am. Who I am is I'm a husband.

00:01:46.870 --> 00:01:50.650
We have a blended family of 11 grown kids, 19

00:01:50.650 --> 00:01:54.010
grandkids and a one and a half year old great

00:01:54.010 --> 00:01:55.950
grandson. It's hard for me to even pronounce

00:01:55.950 --> 00:01:59.969
those words. And we have three dogs, two cats.

00:02:00.209 --> 00:02:03.790
And for hobbies, I do quite a few things. But

00:02:03.790 --> 00:02:06.569
my daily hobbies, I grow flowers and herbs and

00:02:06.569 --> 00:02:12.199
stuff to keep me off the news. I love that. I

00:02:12.199 --> 00:02:15.520
love that. It's so funny. You said 11 blended.

00:02:15.819 --> 00:02:22.360
Yeah. 19 grand and one great grand. Yeah. Okay.

00:02:22.500 --> 00:02:26.599
So anybody that's listening, go find this show

00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:29.060
and you would never guess what Dan looks like.

00:02:29.120 --> 00:02:34.780
Doesn't even look like any of us. I'll give this

00:02:34.780 --> 00:02:39.919
much away. I am in my sixties. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.879
Okay. So everybody, if you're just running on

00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:44.840
the treadmill, just quickly just open up your

00:02:44.840 --> 00:02:47.800
phone and take a look. He looks nothing like

00:02:47.800 --> 00:02:52.539
it at all. This is my better seven tenths right

00:02:52.539 --> 00:02:55.879
there. She's older than me. Don't tell her I

00:02:55.879 --> 00:03:01.479
told you. Look nothing like it. I love it. And

00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:05.759
that to me says that. As a business owner, an

00:03:05.759 --> 00:03:08.860
entrepreneur, and someone that has reached the

00:03:08.860 --> 00:03:11.620
level that you have, I'm going to say this. And

00:03:11.620 --> 00:03:14.740
to be the age that you are, you don't look like

00:03:14.740 --> 00:03:18.159
you let it take over you. Thanks. I came close.

00:03:18.439 --> 00:03:24.039
Yeah, okay. I did come close by accident. I really

00:03:24.039 --> 00:03:27.389
don't mention this a lot, but... I feel comfortable

00:03:27.389 --> 00:03:29.810
and it fits. And, you know, we kept it a secret

00:03:29.810 --> 00:03:31.490
for a while because we didn't want people to

00:03:31.490 --> 00:03:34.969
not get involved with me for the sake of worry.

00:03:35.110 --> 00:03:38.069
But shortly after we first moved here, I was

00:03:38.069 --> 00:03:41.229
working on a documentary that I had just filmed

00:03:41.229 --> 00:03:43.810
with Billy Cobham, the forefather of fusion music.

00:03:44.310 --> 00:03:47.550
And I was under a lot of pressure that, of course,

00:03:47.569 --> 00:03:51.110
I put on myself to get it done by a certain time.

00:03:51.210 --> 00:03:53.469
And we were leaving to go to Oregon for one of

00:03:53.469 --> 00:03:56.020
my daughter's weddings. Well, one of my... it's

00:03:56.020 --> 00:03:58.340
her only wedding, one of my daughter's wedding.

00:03:58.520 --> 00:04:02.960
Yeah. And, and the night before I was sitting

00:04:02.960 --> 00:04:05.939
right here and I just started hallucinating and

00:04:05.939 --> 00:04:09.020
all this stuff. And, and to make a long story

00:04:09.020 --> 00:04:12.800
short, I had not been very good at working in

00:04:12.800 --> 00:04:17.980
balance. And I had a few mini strokes just sitting

00:04:17.980 --> 00:04:20.839
here. And my wife said, there's no way we're

00:04:20.839 --> 00:04:22.879
getting on the plane to go to Oregon tomorrow.

00:04:23.060 --> 00:04:25.300
And I said, there's no way we're missing that

00:04:25.300 --> 00:04:29.000
wedding. And we went. And I was okay except for

00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:32.420
one little thing. And then we came back. And

00:04:32.420 --> 00:04:35.399
she, I'm whispering because I don't want her

00:04:35.399 --> 00:04:39.819
to hear me tell this story. She went to the market

00:04:39.819 --> 00:04:43.459
and came back. and i was wandering around outside

00:04:43.459 --> 00:04:46.379
in our yard where we we park our cars come into

00:04:46.379 --> 00:04:49.100
our our yard it's all concrete and i do container

00:04:49.100 --> 00:04:51.399
gardening and i was wandering around yelling

00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:53.959
for her and she came up to me and said my eyes

00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:56.079
were like twirling she said what's wrong and

00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:58.759
i was like angry where were you and i didn't

00:04:58.759 --> 00:05:02.519
remember that she went to the market to make

00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:04.759
a nice dinner i didn't for a while even remember

00:05:04.759 --> 00:05:07.000
that we had just got back from oregon from the

00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:11.000
airport like a short a couple hours ago so that

00:05:11.759 --> 00:05:14.800
That really scared me. That was eight and a half

00:05:14.800 --> 00:05:17.480
years ago, right after we moved here. Actually,

00:05:17.639 --> 00:05:21.740
yeah, it was right after we moved here. So I

00:05:21.740 --> 00:05:24.959
really go out of my way, not just for myself

00:05:24.959 --> 00:05:27.360
to do the right things, but to tell people. And

00:05:27.360 --> 00:05:30.300
I'm in really good shape. I'm healthy. I've been

00:05:30.300 --> 00:05:33.100
a drummer 55 years. I'm very physically active.

00:05:33.279 --> 00:05:36.259
I do all kinds of stuff with the dogs. I build

00:05:36.259 --> 00:05:39.759
stuff together. But don't let that fool you.

00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.920
yeah you know don't don't let good health make

00:05:42.920 --> 00:05:45.160
you feel like you could push that envelope farther

00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:47.800
because this the nervous system is different

00:05:47.800 --> 00:05:50.860
no matter how strong you are no matter how how

00:05:50.860 --> 00:05:53.800
physically you feel you can hold up it's the

00:05:53.800 --> 00:05:57.500
brain that gave way you know so as entrepreneurs

00:05:57.500 --> 00:06:01.120
as business people even c -suite managers even

00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:04.279
college students that have so much put on them

00:06:04.279 --> 00:06:07.939
and then they got it two jobs we have to have

00:06:07.939 --> 00:06:10.949
that balance you have to be able to take that

00:06:10.949 --> 00:06:13.589
time to rejuvenate and take care of yourself,

00:06:13.750 --> 00:06:20.009
do the right things. And it pays off. I want

00:06:20.009 --> 00:06:22.410
to first say thank you for choosing to share

00:06:22.410 --> 00:06:25.490
that story with me because that says something

00:06:25.490 --> 00:06:28.750
so much bigger than the journey, right? Because

00:06:28.750 --> 00:06:32.829
you are where you are regardless. No one ever

00:06:32.829 --> 00:06:36.610
really thinks about. the journey one takes or

00:06:36.610 --> 00:06:40.310
that moment in life that says, I need to change.

00:06:40.370 --> 00:06:43.350
I must change because I physically look good.

00:06:43.629 --> 00:06:46.209
And when does that change usually happen? When

00:06:46.209 --> 00:06:49.389
the worst possible, you know, like my dad quit

00:06:49.389 --> 00:06:51.750
smoking when he had his first heart attack. That's

00:06:51.750 --> 00:06:54.410
what it took, you know, things like that. But

00:06:54.410 --> 00:06:56.470
what, you know, what it really taught me was,

00:06:56.550 --> 00:06:58.829
and I'm getting more comfortable talking about

00:06:58.829 --> 00:07:04.399
it because it taught me that. If I hadn't finished

00:07:04.399 --> 00:07:07.060
it when I wanted to, the documentary I was working

00:07:07.060 --> 00:07:08.980
on, and it got done, and then we did another

00:07:08.980 --> 00:07:12.180
one. But if I hadn't finished it when it was

00:07:12.180 --> 00:07:14.759
planned, even if it wasn't my decision to put

00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.240
that on me, someone else. What's the worst thing

00:07:17.240 --> 00:07:19.160
that could have happened? You know, the black

00:07:19.160 --> 00:07:22.120
helicopters with people in black Kevlar and machine

00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:25.279
guns are not coming after me. What's the worst

00:07:25.279 --> 00:07:27.540
thing that could ever happen if you just put

00:07:27.540 --> 00:07:29.300
stuff off because you realize it got to slow

00:07:29.300 --> 00:07:31.779
down? You might miss an opportunity here or there.

00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:34.339
Well, you'll get other opportunities the same

00:07:34.339 --> 00:07:36.399
way you got that opportunity. So what? You didn't

00:07:36.399 --> 00:07:38.360
follow through. Maybe you got to give someone

00:07:38.360 --> 00:07:40.680
a refund of a lot of money because you just did.

00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:44.019
Your health has to come first, especially when

00:07:44.019 --> 00:07:46.139
there's others that depend on you. your team,

00:07:46.279 --> 00:07:50.120
your family, and nothing else matters if that

00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:52.939
doesn't matter. I really learned what could have

00:07:52.939 --> 00:07:57.480
been a very much harder way. And so I'm grateful

00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:00.540
that it didn't have any, I don't think it had

00:08:00.540 --> 00:08:03.000
any long -term effects. I hope not. Who knows?

00:08:03.139 --> 00:08:05.560
I don't know. My wife could be behind me laughing

00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:08.550
at me or, you know. doing who knows what, pretending

00:08:08.550 --> 00:08:12.310
she's stabbing me. I don't know. But it's important.

00:08:12.449 --> 00:08:14.709
It's so important for younger entrepreneurs.

00:08:14.949 --> 00:08:17.750
And I don't mean by age, but I mean by people

00:08:17.750 --> 00:08:19.449
like my wife became an entrepreneur when she

00:08:19.449 --> 00:08:24.009
was 50. And if you're new to entrepreneurship,

00:08:24.329 --> 00:08:29.569
there's no way you can really grasp. And Giovanna,

00:08:29.569 --> 00:08:33.669
I'm sure you understand. There's no way, Giovanna,

00:08:33.750 --> 00:08:37.090
that you could really prepare yourself. and understand

00:08:37.090 --> 00:08:41.070
what's what's coming and a lot of that we bring

00:08:41.070 --> 00:08:44.490
on ourself by which is okay and it's measured

00:08:44.490 --> 00:08:47.470
by how successful do you want to be how remarkable

00:08:47.470 --> 00:08:49.429
do you want your product or service to be how

00:08:49.429 --> 00:08:51.110
much do you want to break through that glass

00:08:51.110 --> 00:08:54.370
ceiling really stand it takes work there's no

00:08:54.370 --> 00:08:57.950
big shiny object like ai that's going to do it

00:08:57.950 --> 00:09:01.269
for you you've got to put in the work but if

00:09:01.269 --> 00:09:04.659
you don't work in that self -care and that balance,

00:09:04.879 --> 00:09:10.659
you know, a face mask, the slippers for your

00:09:10.659 --> 00:09:14.659
feet, you know, that hydrate your skin, a massage,

00:09:14.980 --> 00:09:18.860
going for a walk, whatever your jam is, eat a

00:09:18.860 --> 00:09:21.580
candy bar, you know, whatever it is, you've got

00:09:21.580 --> 00:09:24.799
to work then because there's no way you can understand

00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:28.620
until you sit there and look back on it and go.

00:09:29.480 --> 00:09:32.600
how did i get through that yes but it fortifies

00:09:32.600 --> 00:09:36.639
you for whatever else is coming that's next level

00:09:36.639 --> 00:09:38.820
next level next level next level and that's how

00:09:38.820 --> 00:09:42.120
people like richard branson that's how people

00:09:42.120 --> 00:09:44.360
like martin luther king that's how people like

00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:47.340
malcolm x that's how people like steve jobs got

00:09:47.340 --> 00:09:51.139
to where they were by fortifying their their

00:09:51.139 --> 00:09:53.720
emotions their foundation, their emotional foundation,

00:09:54.019 --> 00:09:57.259
their mind always be learned. It's so that matrix

00:09:57.259 --> 00:10:00.659
is so wide and so deep that it's easy for people

00:10:00.659 --> 00:10:02.980
to just throw their hands up and say, F it. I'm

00:10:02.980 --> 00:10:05.220
just going to go get a job and work for the man

00:10:05.220 --> 00:10:07.500
again, because it's dependable. And if that's

00:10:07.500 --> 00:10:09.480
what people want to do, that's totally okay.

00:10:09.600 --> 00:10:12.799
We all serve each other differently. You know,

00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:15.340
some, someone has to check the groceries at the

00:10:15.340 --> 00:10:18.299
grocery counter. Someone's got to invent the

00:10:18.299 --> 00:10:20.820
next iPhone. Someone's got whatever it is. It

00:10:20.820 --> 00:10:23.539
doesn't matter. you still need to work in self

00:10:23.539 --> 00:10:25.500
-care. You don't have to be an entrepreneur for

00:10:25.500 --> 00:10:27.159
that to be important, right? Well, I was going

00:10:27.159 --> 00:10:31.299
to say another weird sort of way I balance is,

00:10:31.519 --> 00:10:34.559
so I mentioned I live a hundred miles from Phoenix

00:10:34.559 --> 00:10:36.759
up in the mountains and I go down there maybe

00:10:36.759 --> 00:10:41.620
three to five times a month on business. I go

00:10:41.620 --> 00:10:46.720
to a entrepreneur. community meeting and do all

00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:48.620
this stuff. And then since I'm down there, I

00:10:48.620 --> 00:10:51.240
set up a couple of other meetings. And I listen

00:10:51.240 --> 00:10:55.120
to, on average, three audio books a month. And

00:10:55.120 --> 00:10:57.259
they're always on business, except for maybe

00:10:57.259 --> 00:11:00.559
10 % of the time, I'll listen to a biography

00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:02.879
of one of my favorite music artists. Other than

00:11:02.879 --> 00:11:04.539
that, it's business, business. I listen to them

00:11:04.539 --> 00:11:08.820
twice, three books a month. And I have a rule

00:11:08.820 --> 00:11:11.899
that when it's a business day like that, I have

00:11:11.899 --> 00:11:14.769
an hour and a half down there. or 45 an hour

00:11:14.769 --> 00:11:17.990
and a half back and i don't listen to music i

00:11:17.990 --> 00:11:20.830
only listen i get my audiobook time in and i

00:11:20.830 --> 00:11:23.009
listen to it in the morning when i'm getting

00:11:23.009 --> 00:11:25.629
stuff ready you know feeding our zoo and getting

00:11:25.629 --> 00:11:29.429
coffee for my wife before she gets up and it's

00:11:29.429 --> 00:11:32.029
that's another way i balance but i'm also feeding

00:11:32.029 --> 00:11:36.509
my brain and and then when we go on long trips

00:11:36.509 --> 00:11:41.279
with my wife i might And we rode as much as possible.

00:11:41.299 --> 00:11:43.299
When we go to LA, when we go to San Diego, going

00:11:43.299 --> 00:11:45.580
to San Diego for Father's Day and my other son's

00:11:45.580 --> 00:11:48.320
birthday, my other son, because one of them works

00:11:48.320 --> 00:11:51.990
with me. we will listen to music or we'll just

00:11:51.990 --> 00:11:54.750
talk but i'll say hey there's this section i

00:11:54.750 --> 00:11:57.090
want you to hear what do you think about this

00:11:57.090 --> 00:11:59.649
chapter being an assignment for the team and

00:11:59.649 --> 00:12:02.590
we will assign my wife is also our hr manager

00:12:02.590 --> 00:12:05.129
and she's an artist and a therapist she makes

00:12:05.129 --> 00:12:07.250
art therapy so i thought she'd be a great hr

00:12:07.250 --> 00:12:09.669
manager she's like a den mother my babysitter

00:12:09.669 --> 00:12:11.929
i mean to be married to a therapist great for

00:12:11.929 --> 00:12:15.940
me not so good for her all the time but but And

00:12:15.940 --> 00:12:18.159
then we'll assign them a chapter to listen to

00:12:18.159 --> 00:12:21.159
or sometimes a whole book simply no matter what

00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:23.039
their position is so we can all be on the same

00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:25.580
page. Because one of the rules we have is no

00:12:25.580 --> 00:12:28.440
matter what someone's position is, everyone's

00:12:28.440 --> 00:12:32.019
always welcome to chime in on an idea that might

00:12:32.019 --> 00:12:34.580
not even have to do with any of their responsibilities

00:12:34.580 --> 00:12:37.740
or it might mainly fall on some other department.

00:12:38.480 --> 00:12:40.659
And maybe that person who brought it up does

00:12:40.659 --> 00:12:42.519
the artwork for it. But this person has a great

00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:45.539
idea for a new membership perk or tier or something.

00:12:45.860 --> 00:12:49.059
So we want everyone to know what I learned and

00:12:49.059 --> 00:12:51.259
what I know. And everything I listen to has to

00:12:51.259 --> 00:12:54.779
do with business growth, entrepreneurship, marketing,

00:12:55.019 --> 00:12:58.559
and scaling, basically, are the four. And they're

00:12:58.559 --> 00:13:01.940
very related, of course, and sometimes very intertwined.

00:13:02.139 --> 00:13:05.860
Yes. So I use that as a way of, it's chill time

00:13:05.860 --> 00:13:09.440
for me. But it's also so it's balanced because

00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:13.200
I'm not here doing all this digital work, which

00:13:13.200 --> 00:13:15.899
drives me crazy. I've been an artist my whole

00:13:15.899 --> 00:13:18.320
life as well. I'm in music. I was a professional

00:13:18.320 --> 00:13:21.539
musician at 15. So I'm very right brain as well.

00:13:21.580 --> 00:13:23.919
But I'll tell you, all these pictures on the

00:13:23.919 --> 00:13:28.480
wall, all these things on the wall, they're covering

00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.379
up holes in the wall for me banging my head against

00:13:31.379 --> 00:13:33.679
it. Working with people in the music industry,

00:13:33.820 --> 00:13:36.220
bless their hearts. I'm from that tribe. But

00:13:36.220 --> 00:13:38.159
when there's nothing going on on the left side

00:13:38.159 --> 00:13:40.840
of the brain, it's all creative. The business

00:13:40.840 --> 00:13:43.500
side, it falters and it fails. And my wife and

00:13:43.500 --> 00:13:45.700
I happen to be business people that are artists

00:13:45.700 --> 00:13:48.419
as opposed to artists. trying to do business

00:13:48.419 --> 00:13:50.700
that don't want to put in the time and you have

00:13:50.700 --> 00:13:53.320
to put in the time to learn and get uncomfortable

00:13:53.320 --> 00:13:56.600
with the part of business that you don't want

00:13:56.600 --> 00:13:58.440
to do because it's easy to just get a manager,

00:13:58.500 --> 00:14:00.639
just get a PR person, get an assistant. That's

00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:01.820
great, but how are you going to choose the right

00:14:01.820 --> 00:14:04.269
one if you don't know? how it works. Same thing

00:14:04.269 --> 00:14:06.149
with when I teach marketing, I tell that, Oh,

00:14:06.149 --> 00:14:07.870
great. You got somebody. Oh, great. You got an

00:14:07.870 --> 00:14:10.549
agency is a business owner. You need to know

00:14:10.549 --> 00:14:12.850
this stuff too. So you can collaborate better

00:14:12.850 --> 00:14:15.610
and brainstorm, you know, get to that, that critical

00:14:15.610 --> 00:14:19.389
mass, that apex point of the perfect content.

00:14:19.889 --> 00:14:23.809
So I find listening to business books, part of

00:14:23.809 --> 00:14:27.509
my balance and chill time. And I focus on it

00:14:27.509 --> 00:14:30.149
a hundred percent. I don't have it on while I'm

00:14:30.149 --> 00:14:34.320
working here or editing video. I'm only listening.

00:14:34.440 --> 00:14:36.399
That's the only thing that has my attention other

00:14:36.399 --> 00:14:40.340
than maybe cooking or going for my walk or the

00:14:40.340 --> 00:14:42.840
drive. And that's it. So, right. I've got some

00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:46.519
great books back here, but as time has gone on,

00:14:46.639 --> 00:14:49.620
it's, I'll read a book if that's the only way

00:14:49.620 --> 00:14:55.159
it comes. But other than that, I love audio books.

00:14:55.259 --> 00:14:57.980
You can rewind, you can flag stuff. I'll record

00:14:57.980 --> 00:15:00.279
it sometimes and play it for my team or for my

00:15:00.279 --> 00:15:03.519
wife. it's just and i love when the author reads

00:15:03.519 --> 00:15:05.639
it it's not always but when the author reads

00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:09.539
it i just love it and it you it's a responsibility

00:15:09.539 --> 00:15:12.580
you have to yourself as a human let alone an

00:15:12.580 --> 00:15:15.899
entrepreneur if you love horticulture learn about

00:15:15.899 --> 00:15:18.899
it don't just you know what i mean it's it's

00:15:18.899 --> 00:15:23.639
it's so important and and it it's very inspiring

00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:27.980
for me too you know like We, we want to, we have

00:15:27.980 --> 00:15:31.379
a big exit plan for three to five years. I, I

00:15:31.379 --> 00:15:34.039
want to, it sounds terrible when I say get out,

00:15:34.059 --> 00:15:35.639
but you know what I mean? I want to get out while

00:15:35.639 --> 00:15:38.620
I'm still, well, it's all perspective while I'm

00:15:38.620 --> 00:15:41.940
still young, but very, you know, fit and healthy.

00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:44.360
So my wife can, and I don't want to work till

00:15:44.360 --> 00:15:46.399
I'm 85. I'm not one of those people that wants

00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:49.970
to, I heard so many. I don't have anything against

00:15:49.970 --> 00:15:51.629
it, but I hear so many entrepreneurs say, hey,

00:15:51.690 --> 00:15:55.409
I'm going to die doing this at 94. I'm not interested

00:15:55.409 --> 00:16:00.169
in that. I got other plans and I don't want to

00:16:00.169 --> 00:16:02.789
be pushed around in a wheelchair because I'm

00:16:02.789 --> 00:16:07.309
so old and frail or because I'm ill. I want to

00:16:07.309 --> 00:16:09.610
do it while I can. You know what I mean? And

00:16:09.610 --> 00:16:11.750
nothing against people who are in wheels. And

00:16:11.750 --> 00:16:13.269
I don't mean it like that. I think people understand

00:16:13.269 --> 00:16:14.929
what I mean. I want to do it while I'm young

00:16:14.929 --> 00:16:19.200
and I'm young. Is this the new 33s or something

00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:22.919
like that? You just made that up, Dan. I did.

00:16:23.080 --> 00:16:26.899
I love it though. My son Alex is going to be

00:16:26.899 --> 00:16:30.320
35 the day after. He's the second youngest of

00:16:30.320 --> 00:16:33.200
all 11. And he's going to be 35 on Monday. And

00:16:33.200 --> 00:16:34.639
I'm going to have the talk with him and I'm going

00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:38.090
to say. it goes by like think how quickly this

00:16:38.090 --> 00:16:42.730
went by i'm gonna say it goes by so fast don't

00:16:42.730 --> 00:16:45.309
put anything off don't second guess just dive

00:16:45.309 --> 00:16:48.909
in just do it kick doors down kick ass have fun

00:16:48.909 --> 00:16:52.230
be productive be good give back and and make

00:16:52.230 --> 00:16:58.289
stuff happen just tell me about your vision i've

00:16:58.289 --> 00:17:01.330
got like different levels so I'll give you the

00:17:01.330 --> 00:17:03.929
where we are now and then the after I'm out,

00:17:04.109 --> 00:17:06.910
if that's okay. I know we're short on time, so

00:17:06.910 --> 00:17:10.849
I'll be quick. The vision now, we're in the middle

00:17:10.849 --> 00:17:13.890
of growing. With Drum Talk TV, we spent three

00:17:13.890 --> 00:17:16.869
years developing, researching, beta testing,

00:17:17.250 --> 00:17:20.630
focus grouping, soft launching, a membership

00:17:20.630 --> 00:17:23.990
site that's for all music fans, experiential

00:17:23.990 --> 00:17:28.980
membership site where people can have... a small

00:17:28.980 --> 00:17:32.039
group of people can be online in a virtual environment

00:17:32.039 --> 00:17:34.819
where they don't need goggles or special headgear

00:17:34.819 --> 00:17:37.299
it's on our platform and we have a big artist

00:17:37.299 --> 00:17:41.160
or record executive or producer and it's a fan

00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:44.160
q a it's not like our other shows where i'm interviewing

00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:46.720
or someone else is interviewing it's a fan q

00:17:46.720 --> 00:17:49.680
a i'm the moderator we'll bring here's javanka

00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.640
with a question for questlove bring you up you're

00:17:52.640 --> 00:17:55.019
on the screen with them other people are watching

00:17:55.019 --> 00:17:57.980
you ask a question the artist answers you're

00:17:57.980 --> 00:18:00.079
on screen the whole time. So it's very personalized.

00:18:00.380 --> 00:18:02.440
And then the next person in line that's in the

00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:04.460
queue, same thing. And then everyone else goes.

00:18:04.839 --> 00:18:07.960
Who's not on the screen is in a virtual environment

00:18:07.960 --> 00:18:09.900
as an avatar. So you could be sitting next to

00:18:09.900 --> 00:18:12.319
someone who lives in Paris. If you live in New

00:18:12.319 --> 00:18:15.700
York and you can chat back and forth, you make

00:18:15.700 --> 00:18:18.019
your own avatar with the same thing for online

00:18:18.019 --> 00:18:20.980
streamed concerts that we do a few times a year.

00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:24.440
We have twice a month music themed game shows

00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:27.660
where people win prizes, all genres of music.

00:18:27.740 --> 00:18:30.920
Yeah. The, the drum talk TV brilliance is not

00:18:30.920 --> 00:18:33.579
just for drummers. It's in jump talk. TV's not

00:18:33.579 --> 00:18:35.789
even just for. drummers just for music fans and

00:18:35.789 --> 00:18:37.809
weirdos who like looking at drummers but drum

00:18:37.809 --> 00:18:41.589
talk tv brilliance is going to be taken under

00:18:41.589 --> 00:18:44.529
a bigger brand that we're in the process of releasing

00:18:44.529 --> 00:18:47.630
which is a big entertainment group that's still

00:18:47.630 --> 00:18:50.190
ours and we're going to replicate drum talk tv

00:18:50.190 --> 00:18:55.470
in different music instrument centric segments

00:18:55.470 --> 00:18:57.829
so like there'll be there's guitar talk tv keyboard

00:18:57.829 --> 00:19:00.029
talk tv all six others that we're developing

00:19:00.029 --> 00:19:02.569
and they'll be under a big entertainment group

00:19:03.160 --> 00:19:05.480
And so that's like I'm watching that come to

00:19:05.480 --> 00:19:09.119
fruition after three years or so of developing.

00:19:09.279 --> 00:19:11.680
And that's really exciting. And I'd love to give

00:19:11.680 --> 00:19:14.880
everybody a free membership for a year if I could

00:19:14.880 --> 00:19:17.380
give out a discount code. Yes. Oh, that would

00:19:17.380 --> 00:19:21.940
be amazing. So if everybody goes to drumtalktvbrilliance

00:19:21.940 --> 00:19:26.859
.com and in all caps at checkout, it will ask

00:19:26.859 --> 00:19:29.000
for a card, but it'll zero out at checkout if

00:19:29.000 --> 00:19:37.700
you use DTTV. B -F -R -E -E, oops, D -T -T -V

00:19:37.700 --> 00:19:42.660
-B, DAN, free. All caps, you get a free year.

00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.079
No strings attached or anything. There's different

00:19:45.079 --> 00:19:47.829
levels, but you get a lot with just that. that

00:19:47.829 --> 00:19:50.049
free membership we call it the club membership

00:19:50.049 --> 00:19:53.210
now and it's for a full year uh there's no expiration

00:19:53.210 --> 00:19:55.289
date on that so everyone can just take it run

00:19:55.289 --> 00:19:56.970
with it pass it out to your friends we want to

00:19:56.970 --> 00:19:59.089
get more and more people in the game shows and

00:19:59.089 --> 00:20:02.210
things like that um and we run all kinds of contests

00:20:02.210 --> 00:20:05.829
so so it's fun seeing that happen and we do interviews

00:20:05.829 --> 00:20:08.799
every month We'll have different drummers and

00:20:08.799 --> 00:20:11.099
stuff on the regular stuff. We have four original

00:20:11.099 --> 00:20:14.019
series with a new one coming out soon. So that's

00:20:14.019 --> 00:20:16.480
like over the next three years, the big development

00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:20.599
in three to five years, I want to have an exit.

00:20:20.660 --> 00:20:24.420
We're going to sell it. And at that point, my

00:20:24.420 --> 00:20:26.539
wife and I are going to travel more, not for

00:20:26.539 --> 00:20:29.160
business. We travel a lot around the world for

00:20:29.160 --> 00:20:31.900
business, doing documentaries and stuff for Drum

00:20:31.900 --> 00:20:35.299
Talk TV and other things. I want to write adventure

00:20:35.299 --> 00:20:38.259
fiction. I've dabbled in that a bit, historical

00:20:38.259 --> 00:20:42.500
period adventure fiction, but I want to travel

00:20:42.500 --> 00:20:44.880
for the research instead of using Google. We

00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:46.980
want to have a dog rescue ranch. We have five

00:20:46.980 --> 00:20:51.250
rescues, two cats, three dogs, and just... live

00:20:51.250 --> 00:20:54.509
life. And I had a cooking show on TV years and

00:20:54.509 --> 00:20:56.809
years ago. So I've gone back and forth about

00:20:56.809 --> 00:20:58.890
bringing that back. That was before YouTube.

00:20:59.089 --> 00:21:01.930
Like I stopped doing it right before YouTube

00:21:01.930 --> 00:21:04.210
came out. And there's been times where I've thought,

00:21:04.289 --> 00:21:06.910
wow, I've, I've gotten, I've reached a hundred

00:21:06.910 --> 00:21:09.269
million people a year online with Trump talk

00:21:09.269 --> 00:21:12.150
TV. We have a million and a half fans on social.

00:21:12.920 --> 00:21:14.740
I wonder what would happen if I brought my cooking

00:21:14.740 --> 00:21:17.059
show back because more people are into food,

00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.259
I think, than into drumming. But everyone's immune.

00:21:19.339 --> 00:21:21.299
So I've kind of toyed with that idea. We'll see.

00:21:21.599 --> 00:21:25.259
We'll see. So those are my two levels of my vision

00:21:25.259 --> 00:21:27.720
now and my vision next. Thank you for being here

00:21:27.720 --> 00:21:29.599
today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to

00:21:29.599 --> 00:21:32.059
Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing

00:21:32.059 --> 00:21:35.119
your reactions as these episodes continue to

00:21:35.119 --> 00:21:36.819
move forward. This is going to get more and more

00:21:36.819 --> 00:21:39.140
fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well.

00:21:39.160 --> 00:21:41.079
We'll invite people to participate in the show.

00:21:41.200 --> 00:21:43.259
And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

00:21:43.539 --> 00:21:46.180
Have an excellent time building out your vision

00:21:46.180 --> 00:21:47.500
and becoming a vision pro yourself.
