Meredith Lockoff, founder of Laser Quit. Tell
me about your vision. My vision is to help the
world free themselves from addiction using cold
laser therapy. I want to help people find a way
into true freedom, which is going to come from
healing our trauma. Okay, very good. And I'm
going to dive into another question. You talked
about Cold laser therapy, I believe you called
it. What is that? For those of us who are uninitiated,
what are we talking about? I mean, so many people
don't know. It's been around for about 50 years,
but most people have no idea what it is. So cold
laser therapy is red light therapy. So everyone's
hearing about red light therapy right now. And
it's all the new trends and, you know, full body
light therapy, all the things. And the beauty
of red light therapy is that it does work. it's
also been around for 40 or 50 years and we combine
that with low level radiation therapy so certain
people kind of freak out as soon as they hear
radiation it's a non -toxic level of radiation
and what we're doing with the cold laser therapy
is we're stimulating the energy in your body
to fix itself it knows better than anyone else
how to rectify itself if we say for example get
into a car accident and your body has to send
energy to one place sometimes that energy doesn't
get dispersed back out the way it's supposed
to uh when we smoke all of our energy goes to
one place and it releases endorphins and then
when we don't those crash and we're cranky jerks
so what we do is we go in and teach your brain
and your body how to fix itself i'm just the
instructor and i tell your body this is what
i want you to go do and then your body does what
it needs to do to create the outcome that you're
looking for so in our smoking we have 85 of people
who just forget to smoke um the 15 who struggle
though that's reality we don't have a miracle
cure for addiction yes this feels like it for
a lot of us but i just don't let people think
that that's the reality let's look at addiction
for what it is addiction is uncomfortable addiction
is us it's a solution to our pain and our trauma
that we don't want to deal with so that's kind
of how we have really started to address how
we feel and what we're doing is you are covering
up your solution has been your addiction and
we can help you get your Life back. There's so
many moving parts of my brain and heart right
now and thoughts on this whole addiction process.
One, I think we can't underestimate the pain,
the grief, the suffering that comes from somebody
who's going through addiction. This is one of
those things that's like, even if we don't understand
the technology fully, is it worth implementing
in the case of severe addictions because that
person's already suffering? with something tremendously.
Right. And then on the flip side, I feel like
we live in a world where we're so polarizing
and labeling that a lot of people self -diagnose
as I'm an addict or their parents diagnose them
or their friends diagnose them or their spouse
diagnoses them. And so there's this like fine
line in my opinion of as leaders, how do we stop?
diagnosing everybody as an addict just because
they have something they like or want? And how
do we treat those who have like a legitimately
severe case of an addiction? What are your thoughts
on that as leader in this space? Because I'm
more of an ignorant outsider on it looking in
and saying, again, I really like the TED Talk
by the guy with the really hard name to pronounce.
This is everything we know about addiction is
wrong. And his TED Talk talks about the sense
of belonging. and how that has the power to heal
as well. So Mary, you know, I do, I do, I know
what you're referring to. And I absolutely agree
because disconnection is the trauma that we felt
growing up leads us to disconnection. When we're
coming from any in, in any situation, we only
come from two places. You either come from a
place of love or from a place of wanting to be
loved. That's it. There's two places. so most
of us are often coming from a place of wanting
to be loved and we won't show we don't want to
show the vulnerability that comes with that we
don't want to show the pain that comes with that
so our trauma just keeps getting pushed down
pushed down pushed down your childhood almost
every single one of us our trauma is you're not
enough yeah and that is not true because you
wouldn't be here if you weren't enough you are
perfect exactly as you are you're here with your
exact like the purpose you're here for is to
be enough and it's you know we go to oh well
i'm too much and all of these things all of these
things are emotions traumas experiences that
we are tying and then going this is too painful
i don't want to feel it and we take a drug do
you know drink any of these things so like as
I mentioned when you first hopped on I've been
going through some stuff the last year has been
incredibly difficult um the last couple weeks
have been even more difficult because it's been
a purging of people in my life that don't serve
people in my life that aren't what I'm looking
for people that we just I just don't align with
anymore uh friendships falling off relationships
that are just ending it has been incredibly difficult
and today there was like i got stolen somebody
stole fifteen hundred dollars from me and refuses
to give it back and what i realized is i'm super
grateful that i can walk away from this fifteen
hundred dollars and i'm able to make more and
this doesn't need to be something i attach myself
to but it's pretty sad that this is the situation
that we're in right i'm feeling incredibly sad
because of some of these relationships that are
going but One of the things, even me, I was only
ever a smoker. But I will tell you, that smoker
is so much more than just a smoker. I'm an addict,
period. And in going through what I'm going through,
I can guarantee you that whether it's marijuana
or cigarettes, I want to run away from everything
I'm feeling. And my addiction is the place that
I want to go. As soon as I feel like I want to
run. That's where I want to go. I want to go
straight back into addiction. Marijuana makes
me not feel because it makes me give, it gives
me the bliss molecule. Cigarettes make me not
feel because it releases endorphins. None of
those things are my solution though. And that
is why I do what I do because we have to sit
with these feelings. You have to process these
feelings and you can't keep running from them
because that's not a solution. And so when it
comes to addiction, Everyone has addiction tendencies.
We all have things, whether it's your phone,
whether it's drama, whether it's a substance.
Netflix, sports. We all have something. And what
makes an addiction, in Laser Quit's view, is
a physiological and emotional attachment to something.
And then we go in and there's habits that are
attached. We create routine and habit around
our addiction, around the things that we're doing.
And it makes it that much more difficult to stop
because habits are done unconsciously. So you
can, you know, be doing anything at all and turn
it into an addiction. So that's where, when it
comes to diagnosis of addiction, it's really
not that hard to diagnose. That being said, being
diagnosed as an addict doesn't, provide you a
solution. So we need to find solutions. And that
is what laser quit is here for. We have found
a way to make it so that there is minimal suffering
in your sobriety. And then on top of the minimal
suffering that you're going to go through, when
we go get sober, essentially your endorphins
crash and you head into depression. Now you're
asking someone who is incredibly depressed, To
essentially, like, don't worry about your depression.
Let's go deal with the trauma, which is the exact
reason you started drinking, doing drugs, smoking
in the first place. But now you're super depressed.
And I'm going to have you feel all those feelings.
It doesn't work. This is why people can't get
sober and stay sober longer than a little while.
Because your brain crashes. The endorphins crash.
And to recover from that takes a significantly
long time. So like a long -term user, they take...
uh 14 to 18 months for the brain to recover whereas
laserquip helps your brain recover almost immediately
and if it's not within that first week it's the
following week that you will see the endorphins
in your brain take you back to a place where
you're actually capable of now you know feeling
normal and not not perfectly normal because you've
messed with the chemicals in your brain but to
get you to at least a place Where you can emotionally
and physically deal with the things that have
caused your addiction in the first place. Because
we need to deal with those or you're going to
end up right back where you started. So we have
to work our way through these addictions in steps,
but also in time. It takes time. And healing
is not linear. So it's definitely an interesting...
thing that we're doing and with laser quit we're
making it so that your suffering is minimal so
that you actually and the success is incredibly
high and that's what makes us different than
everything else what's your why um i think i've
got the assumptions on it and says to some of
the some of the people listening but i'd love
to hear it articulated by yourself what what's
what's your why to you my why is because i think
the world deserves more than what we give ourselves
Because I believe that there's always hope no
matter what. And we just need to find that light
and move towards it. My leading question for
you, and feel free to challenge the question,
is why do you think leaders hide from funding
their vision, taking the big, bold steps that
you've taken? What is it that holds them back
from stepping in and owning it and saying, like,
I'm going to do this. I'm going to make this
happen. Fear. Lack of belief in themselves. And
I know that my purpose is greater than myself.
And if the universe doesn't want me to do it,
the universe is going to turn me in a different
direction. But every single time I've tried to
walk away or change directions, I keep ending
back up right where I left. So I need to do what
I'm here to do. And Laser Quit, I think, is my
funnel into that. I love that. so along along
with that you actually leaned right into the
next question and answer um which i i'm grateful
for your intuitiveness is on point today um how
do leaders or how can leaders lean into funding
their vision how do they get themselves out of
that state of fear and move towards it and take
the action steps so i don't know that i've ever
not been scared let's just put it that way i
just trust that one i'm enough and two the universe
knows what's best for me and I need to follow
that so for me it comes down to like and as I
say this I'm gonna go ahead and tell you right
now I'm not practicing what I preach when I say
meditation in the sense that I've been going
through a lot I'm I'm feeling a lot and if I
go meditate right now in the last week I know
that if I meditate I'm gonna end up feeling a
lot more And my physical body doesn't feel capable
at the moment. But that being said, I have an
appointment to see my shaman tomorrow so that
I can dig into this. I just don't feel emotionally
capable of dealing with it on my own at this
point. You know, I've cried a lot. I've felt
all the feelings. I've done the things, but I'm
not finding my way through yet. And so I have
had a couple of meditations and they, as much
as they're supportive, I'm not. getting into
what I need to get into. So I called my shaman
and I said, look, I'm going through a lot. And
she said, I know. And she said, let's. And so
we do a 90 minute meditation in that session.
And I can't tell you how excited I am to get
there, but this is how I practice what I preach.
No, I haven't done it the last week, but I have
my solution and I know how to get to what I need
to do. And I'm, I'm heading in that direction.
I'm far from a perfect human being. So. And also
I am a spirit on this earth here to have a human
experience. So I need to be human. I can't spiritually
bypass. I can't pretend it's all good. I need
to feel what I need to feel. And then I need
to move through it. And that's what I'm trying
to do. Is there, is there any final aspect that
you want to share with the other visionary leaders
listening in? Really just follow your heart and
listen and remember that the universe isn't gonna,
I mean, If I don't listen when it's poking me
gently, it's going to punch me in the face and
it's really uncomfortable when it punches me
in the face. And one of the things that I will
tell everyone, if you're seeing a pattern repeat,
go back and look at it because you're missing
something. The lesson is not over if you're repeating
it. And I don't like repeating things. It's probably
one of my biggest pet peeves. It doesn't mean
I don't do it. But I don't like to do it. So
I typically will focus real hard on trying to
find the lesson. And my biggest probably thing
that has helped me get through all of the things
is knowing that every painful or challenging
experience I have. is only to teach me something
and it makes it so much easier to move through
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