WEBVTT 00:00:00.010 --> 00:00:04.129 Meredith Lockoff, founder of Laser Quit. Tell 00:00:04.129 --> 00:00:08.269 me about your vision. My vision is to help the 00:00:08.269 --> 00:00:11.470 world free themselves from addiction using cold 00:00:11.470 --> 00:00:16.410 laser therapy. I want to help people find a way 00:00:16.410 --> 00:00:19.649 into true freedom, which is going to come from 00:00:19.649 --> 00:00:24.030 healing our trauma. Okay, very good. And I'm 00:00:24.030 --> 00:00:26.309 going to dive into another question. You talked 00:00:26.309 --> 00:00:29.280 about Cold laser therapy, I believe you called 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.280 it. What is that? For those of us who are uninitiated, 00:00:32.280 --> 00:00:34.340 what are we talking about? I mean, so many people 00:00:34.340 --> 00:00:36.619 don't know. It's been around for about 50 years, 00:00:36.679 --> 00:00:40.200 but most people have no idea what it is. So cold 00:00:40.200 --> 00:00:43.859 laser therapy is red light therapy. So everyone's 00:00:43.859 --> 00:00:45.500 hearing about red light therapy right now. And 00:00:45.500 --> 00:00:47.719 it's all the new trends and, you know, full body 00:00:47.719 --> 00:00:51.859 light therapy, all the things. And the beauty 00:00:51.859 --> 00:00:54.579 of red light therapy is that it does work. it's 00:00:54.579 --> 00:00:58.780 also been around for 40 or 50 years and we combine 00:00:58.780 --> 00:01:02.679 that with low level radiation therapy so certain 00:01:02.679 --> 00:01:04.219 people kind of freak out as soon as they hear 00:01:04.219 --> 00:01:06.659 radiation it's a non -toxic level of radiation 00:01:06.659 --> 00:01:10.680 and what we're doing with the cold laser therapy 00:01:10.680 --> 00:01:13.019 is we're stimulating the energy in your body 00:01:13.019 --> 00:01:16.700 to fix itself it knows better than anyone else 00:01:17.230 --> 00:01:20.810 how to rectify itself if we say for example get 00:01:20.810 --> 00:01:23.349 into a car accident and your body has to send 00:01:23.349 --> 00:01:26.549 energy to one place sometimes that energy doesn't 00:01:26.549 --> 00:01:28.049 get dispersed back out the way it's supposed 00:01:28.049 --> 00:01:31.049 to uh when we smoke all of our energy goes to 00:01:31.049 --> 00:01:33.370 one place and it releases endorphins and then 00:01:33.370 --> 00:01:36.549 when we don't those crash and we're cranky jerks 00:01:36.549 --> 00:01:40.150 so what we do is we go in and teach your brain 00:01:40.150 --> 00:01:43.750 and your body how to fix itself i'm just the 00:01:43.750 --> 00:01:45.569 instructor and i tell your body this is what 00:01:45.569 --> 00:01:47.950 i want you to go do and then your body does what 00:01:47.950 --> 00:01:51.370 it needs to do to create the outcome that you're 00:01:51.370 --> 00:01:55.170 looking for so in our smoking we have 85 of people 00:01:55.170 --> 00:01:59.670 who just forget to smoke um the 15 who struggle 00:01:59.670 --> 00:02:03.430 though that's reality we don't have a miracle 00:02:03.430 --> 00:02:05.829 cure for addiction yes this feels like it for 00:02:05.829 --> 00:02:08.509 a lot of us but i just don't let people think 00:02:08.509 --> 00:02:11.080 that that's the reality let's look at addiction 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:15.659 for what it is addiction is uncomfortable addiction 00:02:15.659 --> 00:02:22.180 is us it's a solution to our pain and our trauma 00:02:22.180 --> 00:02:26.620 that we don't want to deal with so that's kind 00:02:26.620 --> 00:02:30.840 of how we have really started to address how 00:02:30.840 --> 00:02:34.180 we feel and what we're doing is you are covering 00:02:34.180 --> 00:02:36.879 up your solution has been your addiction and 00:02:36.879 --> 00:02:40.759 we can help you get your Life back. There's so 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:43.500 many moving parts of my brain and heart right 00:02:43.500 --> 00:02:45.620 now and thoughts on this whole addiction process. 00:02:45.780 --> 00:02:51.599 One, I think we can't underestimate the pain, 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:53.439 the grief, the suffering that comes from somebody 00:02:53.439 --> 00:02:56.439 who's going through addiction. This is one of 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:59.580 those things that's like, even if we don't understand 00:02:59.580 --> 00:03:02.000 the technology fully, is it worth implementing 00:03:02.000 --> 00:03:05.020 in the case of severe addictions because that 00:03:05.020 --> 00:03:07.129 person's already suffering? with something tremendously. 00:03:07.569 --> 00:03:10.090 Right. And then on the flip side, I feel like 00:03:10.090 --> 00:03:12.789 we live in a world where we're so polarizing 00:03:12.789 --> 00:03:18.069 and labeling that a lot of people self -diagnose 00:03:18.069 --> 00:03:22.310 as I'm an addict or their parents diagnose them 00:03:22.310 --> 00:03:24.689 or their friends diagnose them or their spouse 00:03:24.689 --> 00:03:28.449 diagnoses them. And so there's this like fine 00:03:28.449 --> 00:03:32.229 line in my opinion of as leaders, how do we stop? 00:03:33.250 --> 00:03:35.590 diagnosing everybody as an addict just because 00:03:35.590 --> 00:03:38.930 they have something they like or want? And how 00:03:38.930 --> 00:03:42.009 do we treat those who have like a legitimately 00:03:42.009 --> 00:03:45.129 severe case of an addiction? What are your thoughts 00:03:45.129 --> 00:03:46.810 on that as leader in this space? Because I'm 00:03:46.810 --> 00:03:49.250 more of an ignorant outsider on it looking in 00:03:49.250 --> 00:03:52.590 and saying, again, I really like the TED Talk 00:03:52.590 --> 00:03:54.870 by the guy with the really hard name to pronounce. 00:03:55.009 --> 00:03:56.569 This is everything we know about addiction is 00:03:56.569 --> 00:04:00.289 wrong. And his TED Talk talks about the sense 00:04:00.289 --> 00:04:02.460 of belonging. and how that has the power to heal 00:04:02.460 --> 00:04:06.419 as well. So Mary, you know, I do, I do, I know 00:04:06.419 --> 00:04:08.479 what you're referring to. And I absolutely agree 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:12.939 because disconnection is the trauma that we felt 00:04:12.939 --> 00:04:17.540 growing up leads us to disconnection. When we're 00:04:17.540 --> 00:04:20.980 coming from any in, in any situation, we only 00:04:20.980 --> 00:04:22.939 come from two places. You either come from a 00:04:22.939 --> 00:04:26.360 place of love or from a place of wanting to be 00:04:26.360 --> 00:04:29.459 loved. That's it. There's two places. so most 00:04:29.459 --> 00:04:32.100 of us are often coming from a place of wanting 00:04:32.100 --> 00:04:34.560 to be loved and we won't show we don't want to 00:04:34.560 --> 00:04:36.120 show the vulnerability that comes with that we 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:37.620 don't want to show the pain that comes with that 00:04:37.620 --> 00:04:40.160 so our trauma just keeps getting pushed down 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:43.079 pushed down pushed down your childhood almost 00:04:43.079 --> 00:04:46.279 every single one of us our trauma is you're not 00:04:46.279 --> 00:04:50.699 enough yeah and that is not true because you 00:04:50.699 --> 00:04:53.519 wouldn't be here if you weren't enough you are 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:56.839 perfect exactly as you are you're here with your 00:04:56.839 --> 00:05:00.399 exact like the purpose you're here for is to 00:05:00.399 --> 00:05:03.899 be enough and it's you know we go to oh well 00:05:03.899 --> 00:05:06.439 i'm too much and all of these things all of these 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:11.540 things are emotions traumas experiences that 00:05:11.540 --> 00:05:16.279 we are tying and then going this is too painful 00:05:16.279 --> 00:05:19.459 i don't want to feel it and we take a drug do 00:05:19.459 --> 00:05:22.879 you know drink any of these things so like as 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.480 I mentioned when you first hopped on I've been 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:27.600 going through some stuff the last year has been 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:31.839 incredibly difficult um the last couple weeks 00:05:31.839 --> 00:05:34.139 have been even more difficult because it's been 00:05:34.139 --> 00:05:36.959 a purging of people in my life that don't serve 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:40.160 people in my life that aren't what I'm looking 00:05:40.160 --> 00:05:42.319 for people that we just I just don't align with 00:05:42.319 --> 00:05:45.240 anymore uh friendships falling off relationships 00:05:45.240 --> 00:05:48.829 that are just ending it has been incredibly difficult 00:05:48.829 --> 00:05:53.189 and today there was like i got stolen somebody 00:05:53.189 --> 00:05:55.290 stole fifteen hundred dollars from me and refuses 00:05:55.290 --> 00:06:00.649 to give it back and what i realized is i'm super 00:06:00.649 --> 00:06:03.110 grateful that i can walk away from this fifteen 00:06:03.110 --> 00:06:05.930 hundred dollars and i'm able to make more and 00:06:05.930 --> 00:06:08.449 this doesn't need to be something i attach myself 00:06:08.449 --> 00:06:10.790 to but it's pretty sad that this is the situation 00:06:10.790 --> 00:06:14.389 that we're in right i'm feeling incredibly sad 00:06:14.389 --> 00:06:16.129 because of some of these relationships that are 00:06:16.129 --> 00:06:20.040 going but One of the things, even me, I was only 00:06:20.040 --> 00:06:23.100 ever a smoker. But I will tell you, that smoker 00:06:23.100 --> 00:06:27.319 is so much more than just a smoker. I'm an addict, 00:06:27.660 --> 00:06:30.860 period. And in going through what I'm going through, 00:06:30.899 --> 00:06:32.879 I can guarantee you that whether it's marijuana 00:06:32.879 --> 00:06:37.240 or cigarettes, I want to run away from everything 00:06:37.240 --> 00:06:40.699 I'm feeling. And my addiction is the place that 00:06:40.699 --> 00:06:43.319 I want to go. As soon as I feel like I want to 00:06:43.319 --> 00:06:45.160 run. That's where I want to go. I want to go 00:06:45.160 --> 00:06:47.100 straight back into addiction. Marijuana makes 00:06:47.100 --> 00:06:48.959 me not feel because it makes me give, it gives 00:06:48.959 --> 00:06:50.939 me the bliss molecule. Cigarettes make me not 00:06:50.939 --> 00:06:53.439 feel because it releases endorphins. None of 00:06:53.439 --> 00:06:56.339 those things are my solution though. And that 00:06:56.339 --> 00:06:59.899 is why I do what I do because we have to sit 00:06:59.899 --> 00:07:02.319 with these feelings. You have to process these 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:04.680 feelings and you can't keep running from them 00:07:04.680 --> 00:07:08.240 because that's not a solution. And so when it 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:13.819 comes to addiction, Everyone has addiction tendencies. 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:16.839 We all have things, whether it's your phone, 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:20.360 whether it's drama, whether it's a substance. 00:07:20.879 --> 00:07:27.139 Netflix, sports. We all have something. And what 00:07:27.139 --> 00:07:30.600 makes an addiction, in Laser Quit's view, is 00:07:30.600 --> 00:07:34.560 a physiological and emotional attachment to something. 00:07:34.680 --> 00:07:37.279 And then we go in and there's habits that are 00:07:37.279 --> 00:07:40.269 attached. We create routine and habit around 00:07:40.269 --> 00:07:43.189 our addiction, around the things that we're doing. 00:07:43.629 --> 00:07:45.670 And it makes it that much more difficult to stop 00:07:45.670 --> 00:07:50.509 because habits are done unconsciously. So you 00:07:50.509 --> 00:07:55.449 can, you know, be doing anything at all and turn 00:07:55.449 --> 00:07:59.149 it into an addiction. So that's where, when it 00:07:59.149 --> 00:08:02.089 comes to diagnosis of addiction, it's really 00:08:02.089 --> 00:08:05.810 not that hard to diagnose. That being said, being 00:08:05.810 --> 00:08:08.449 diagnosed as an addict doesn't, provide you a 00:08:08.449 --> 00:08:12.069 solution. So we need to find solutions. And that 00:08:12.069 --> 00:08:15.089 is what laser quit is here for. We have found 00:08:15.089 --> 00:08:17.889 a way to make it so that there is minimal suffering 00:08:17.889 --> 00:08:21.790 in your sobriety. And then on top of the minimal 00:08:21.790 --> 00:08:24.589 suffering that you're going to go through, when 00:08:24.589 --> 00:08:29.370 we go get sober, essentially your endorphins 00:08:29.370 --> 00:08:32.710 crash and you head into depression. Now you're 00:08:32.710 --> 00:08:40.179 asking someone who is incredibly depressed, To 00:08:40.179 --> 00:08:43.740 essentially, like, don't worry about your depression. 00:08:43.899 --> 00:08:45.840 Let's go deal with the trauma, which is the exact 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:47.919 reason you started drinking, doing drugs, smoking 00:08:47.919 --> 00:08:50.279 in the first place. But now you're super depressed. 00:08:50.539 --> 00:08:52.679 And I'm going to have you feel all those feelings. 00:08:52.960 --> 00:08:54.919 It doesn't work. This is why people can't get 00:08:54.919 --> 00:08:57.480 sober and stay sober longer than a little while. 00:08:57.580 --> 00:09:00.299 Because your brain crashes. The endorphins crash. 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:02.779 And to recover from that takes a significantly 00:09:02.779 --> 00:09:07.139 long time. So like a long -term user, they take... 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:11.000 uh 14 to 18 months for the brain to recover whereas 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:14.100 laserquip helps your brain recover almost immediately 00:09:14.100 --> 00:09:17.860 and if it's not within that first week it's the 00:09:17.860 --> 00:09:20.960 following week that you will see the endorphins 00:09:20.960 --> 00:09:22.700 in your brain take you back to a place where 00:09:22.700 --> 00:09:26.320 you're actually capable of now you know feeling 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:30.159 normal and not not perfectly normal because you've 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:32.679 messed with the chemicals in your brain but to 00:09:32.679 --> 00:09:35.870 get you to at least a place Where you can emotionally 00:09:35.870 --> 00:09:38.429 and physically deal with the things that have 00:09:38.429 --> 00:09:40.970 caused your addiction in the first place. Because 00:09:40.970 --> 00:09:42.269 we need to deal with those or you're going to 00:09:42.269 --> 00:09:45.289 end up right back where you started. So we have 00:09:45.289 --> 00:09:49.429 to work our way through these addictions in steps, 00:09:49.730 --> 00:09:56.029 but also in time. It takes time. And healing 00:09:56.029 --> 00:10:00.529 is not linear. So it's definitely an interesting... 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:02.960 thing that we're doing and with laser quit we're 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:06.779 making it so that your suffering is minimal so 00:10:06.779 --> 00:10:09.000 that you actually and the success is incredibly 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:11.500 high and that's what makes us different than 00:10:11.500 --> 00:10:14.460 everything else what's your why um i think i've 00:10:14.460 --> 00:10:16.299 got the assumptions on it and says to some of 00:10:16.299 --> 00:10:18.240 the some of the people listening but i'd love 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.779 to hear it articulated by yourself what what's 00:10:20.779 --> 00:10:24.740 what's your why to you my why is because i think 00:10:24.740 --> 00:10:28.820 the world deserves more than what we give ourselves 00:10:29.650 --> 00:10:31.549 Because I believe that there's always hope no 00:10:31.549 --> 00:10:34.190 matter what. And we just need to find that light 00:10:34.190 --> 00:10:38.350 and move towards it. My leading question for 00:10:38.350 --> 00:10:39.809 you, and feel free to challenge the question, 00:10:39.929 --> 00:10:44.830 is why do you think leaders hide from funding 00:10:44.830 --> 00:10:47.909 their vision, taking the big, bold steps that 00:10:47.909 --> 00:10:49.950 you've taken? What is it that holds them back 00:10:49.950 --> 00:10:52.429 from stepping in and owning it and saying, like, 00:10:52.490 --> 00:10:53.809 I'm going to do this. I'm going to make this 00:10:53.809 --> 00:11:00.590 happen. Fear. Lack of belief in themselves. And 00:11:00.590 --> 00:11:04.990 I know that my purpose is greater than myself. 00:11:05.590 --> 00:11:10.210 And if the universe doesn't want me to do it, 00:11:10.250 --> 00:11:11.629 the universe is going to turn me in a different 00:11:11.629 --> 00:11:13.830 direction. But every single time I've tried to 00:11:13.830 --> 00:11:16.889 walk away or change directions, I keep ending 00:11:16.889 --> 00:11:22.090 back up right where I left. So I need to do what 00:11:22.090 --> 00:11:25.070 I'm here to do. And Laser Quit, I think, is my 00:11:25.070 --> 00:11:29.830 funnel into that. I love that. so along along 00:11:29.830 --> 00:11:32.090 with that you actually leaned right into the 00:11:32.090 --> 00:11:35.190 next question and answer um which i i'm grateful 00:11:35.190 --> 00:11:39.850 for your intuitiveness is on point today um how 00:11:39.850 --> 00:11:42.870 do leaders or how can leaders lean into funding 00:11:42.870 --> 00:11:44.909 their vision how do they get themselves out of 00:11:44.909 --> 00:11:47.710 that state of fear and move towards it and take 00:11:47.710 --> 00:11:51.070 the action steps so i don't know that i've ever 00:11:51.070 --> 00:11:54.190 not been scared let's just put it that way i 00:11:54.190 --> 00:12:00.139 just trust that one i'm enough and two the universe 00:12:00.139 --> 00:12:02.200 knows what's best for me and I need to follow 00:12:02.200 --> 00:12:05.779 that so for me it comes down to like and as I 00:12:05.779 --> 00:12:07.460 say this I'm gonna go ahead and tell you right 00:12:07.460 --> 00:12:10.639 now I'm not practicing what I preach when I say 00:12:10.639 --> 00:12:13.659 meditation in the sense that I've been going 00:12:13.659 --> 00:12:18.240 through a lot I'm I'm feeling a lot and if I 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:22.080 go meditate right now in the last week I know 00:12:22.080 --> 00:12:24.919 that if I meditate I'm gonna end up feeling a 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:27.990 lot more And my physical body doesn't feel capable 00:12:27.990 --> 00:12:32.370 at the moment. But that being said, I have an 00:12:32.370 --> 00:12:35.289 appointment to see my shaman tomorrow so that 00:12:35.289 --> 00:12:38.490 I can dig into this. I just don't feel emotionally 00:12:38.490 --> 00:12:41.049 capable of dealing with it on my own at this 00:12:41.049 --> 00:12:43.549 point. You know, I've cried a lot. I've felt 00:12:43.549 --> 00:12:45.070 all the feelings. I've done the things, but I'm 00:12:45.070 --> 00:12:48.250 not finding my way through yet. And so I have 00:12:48.250 --> 00:12:51.190 had a couple of meditations and they, as much 00:12:51.190 --> 00:12:53.899 as they're supportive, I'm not. getting into 00:12:53.899 --> 00:12:56.240 what I need to get into. So I called my shaman 00:12:56.240 --> 00:12:57.600 and I said, look, I'm going through a lot. And 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:01.440 she said, I know. And she said, let's. And so 00:13:01.440 --> 00:13:05.620 we do a 90 minute meditation in that session. 00:13:06.120 --> 00:13:08.600 And I can't tell you how excited I am to get 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:11.659 there, but this is how I practice what I preach. 00:13:11.899 --> 00:13:14.019 No, I haven't done it the last week, but I have 00:13:14.019 --> 00:13:16.279 my solution and I know how to get to what I need 00:13:16.279 --> 00:13:18.960 to do. And I'm, I'm heading in that direction. 00:13:19.059 --> 00:13:23.070 I'm far from a perfect human being. So. And also 00:13:23.070 --> 00:13:27.009 I am a spirit on this earth here to have a human 00:13:27.009 --> 00:13:30.090 experience. So I need to be human. I can't spiritually 00:13:30.090 --> 00:13:33.070 bypass. I can't pretend it's all good. I need 00:13:33.070 --> 00:13:34.809 to feel what I need to feel. And then I need 00:13:34.809 --> 00:13:36.669 to move through it. And that's what I'm trying 00:13:36.669 --> 00:13:39.889 to do. Is there, is there any final aspect that 00:13:39.889 --> 00:13:42.090 you want to share with the other visionary leaders 00:13:42.090 --> 00:13:47.509 listening in? Really just follow your heart and 00:13:47.509 --> 00:13:50.129 listen and remember that the universe isn't gonna, 00:13:50.210 --> 00:13:53.580 I mean, If I don't listen when it's poking me 00:13:53.580 --> 00:13:55.799 gently, it's going to punch me in the face and 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:57.720 it's really uncomfortable when it punches me 00:13:57.720 --> 00:14:00.480 in the face. And one of the things that I will 00:14:00.480 --> 00:14:03.320 tell everyone, if you're seeing a pattern repeat, 00:14:03.539 --> 00:14:06.039 go back and look at it because you're missing 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:09.539 something. The lesson is not over if you're repeating 00:14:09.539 --> 00:14:13.779 it. And I don't like repeating things. It's probably 00:14:13.779 --> 00:14:15.820 one of my biggest pet peeves. It doesn't mean 00:14:15.820 --> 00:14:19.289 I don't do it. But I don't like to do it. So 00:14:19.289 --> 00:14:21.750 I typically will focus real hard on trying to 00:14:21.750 --> 00:14:24.169 find the lesson. And my biggest probably thing 00:14:24.169 --> 00:14:25.730 that has helped me get through all of the things 00:14:25.730 --> 00:14:30.330 is knowing that every painful or challenging 00:14:30.330 --> 00:14:33.539 experience I have. is only to teach me something 00:14:33.539 --> 00:14:35.700 and it makes it so much easier to move through 00:14:35.700 --> 00:14:37.740 thank you for being here today i'm really happy 00:14:37.740 --> 00:14:39.960 that you tuned in to vision pros live i'm looking 00:14:39.960 --> 00:14:43.220 forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes 00:14:43.220 --> 00:14:45.019 continue to move forward this is going to get 00:14:45.019 --> 00:14:47.639 more and more fun we'll have more and more engagement 00:14:47.639 --> 00:14:49.799 as well we invite people to participate in the 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:52.039 show and thank you for giving us your time and 00:14:52.039 --> 00:14:54.440 attention have an excellent time building out 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:56.600 your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself