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Please share with me your first, last name, where

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you're located, and the name of your business.

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Oh, me? It's Matthew Lesko. And my business is

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called leskohelp .com. And you really don't need

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me. Because what I do is I plagiarize everything

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from the government that anybody could get for

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free. My first New York Times bestseller was

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a book I literally plagiarized the whole thing

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from the government printing office. Because

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nothing in the government is copyrighted. People

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don't realize that. I flunked English in college.

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So to have a New York Times bestseller, when

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that hit the Times list, man, I'd try to find

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that English teacher. That is too funny. I love

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that. So where did the idea of coming up and

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providing all this information for? I think you

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had a list of like 10 different situations and

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topics. Yeah, it is for almost anything. And

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I ran into it by accident. I was a consultant,

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actually had an MBA in computers back in the

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70s, computer science. uh major and uh talk computer

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science but i also was helping fortune 500 companies

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uh grow their business and i was in washington

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and when i saw god everything i could get that

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yeah and i didn't know anything about this before

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i started and they made me smart because they

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were paying my bills and they'll pay anything

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if they could get more money and so i'd find

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them government programs that grow their business

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start new businesses buy businesses yeah um And

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I said, Jesus, why doesn't everybody know about

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this stuff? And I grew up in a little town called

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Wilkes -Barre, Pennsylvania. It's a coal mining

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town. My grandparents both came over from Eastern

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Europe to work on the coal mines. And I thought

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the government was, you know, the DMV, the motor

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vehicles and the post office, you know, and that

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was it. But boy, it's just phenomenal. And I

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saw, you know, it was the first successful businesses.

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I had a software company that failed, failures.

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And, but I got sick of helping rich people. Helping

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millionaires become billionaires. And why doesn't

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everybody know about that? So I started, I couldn't

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do it by charging thousands of dollars like I

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did to them, but it was books. And now I'm even

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able to give better help because of the internet

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at cheaper than ever. And that's very gratifying.

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How many have you helped? Give me a number. I've

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been doing this for 50 years. And so I've sold

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four or five million books. But nobody, many

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people didn't do much with them. Because it's

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sort of like diet books. You buy a diet book

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and we all keep getting fatter, don't we? Fattest

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country in the world, actually. Fattest country

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in the world, yes. We also are. We have more

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poor people in this country than any other developed

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country in the world. So all the rich people,

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there's about 30, 35, you know, what they call

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developed countries. And we're number one in

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poverty. I mean, that is just. But yet people

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see us so different. Exactly. We're also number

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one in millionaires, but. But again, in poverty

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as well. So a little bit backwards. Right. That's

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so stupid. I don't know how we get away with

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that. So I'm trying to show people the programs

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that are out there. And today I thought of a

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headline, too. I'm from the government, and I'm

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here to help you. It became a joke. But I say

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that. I'm from the government. I'm here to love

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you. This is where, as a community, we show love

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to other people in the community. Capitalism

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is great. It gives a value to everything. But

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what does it do for the people who don't have

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money? If you have money, you could play capitalism.

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And we're made up of two parts in the country.

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We have capitalism, which is only 60%. It's not

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the whole country. 40 % of our community is nonprofit

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organizations or government offices, which are

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here to show love to other people, which are

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here to help other people, which have money to

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get you out of financial trouble. They're good

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neighbors, not capitalists. Capitalists will

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help you if you have money. Just think if we

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had the capitalist fire department. And they'd

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come when your house is on fire and they ask

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for your credit card first. So we have things

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in our society that are loving towards everybody

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because they want to help. And that's in us all.

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I mean, it's not a magic thing. We all have that

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in us, in our heart, where capitalism doesn't

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encourage it as much. But only for people we

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have love for you as long as you have money.

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But now we have so many people that have no money

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at all. So what do we do? Ignore them and make

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them poor? That's just not a nice, comfortable

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society to live in, I think. Absolutely. And

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Matthew, quick question in regards to your why.

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What is your why? What's your why? Excuse me?

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Your why. Oh, why? I thought you knew I was married

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three times. I said, my wife. We'll get on that

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topic soon. I'm going to change that one day.

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It's like, what's your wife? It is. As I age,

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I mean, I'm 81 now. I'm going to be 82 soon.

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I never thought I would live this long. And I'm

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having the best time of my life. And I keep saying

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my joke is if I knew being 81 was this much fun,

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I would have got here a lot earlier. Why did

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I wait so long? And it really is using more of

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your heart. I think that's so important. We don't

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think of that. You don't find a business school

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is talking about your heart. And that's the motivation

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or anything. When I first started this business,

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it was really getting information to people in

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businesses, big, small, whatever. So I always

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thought I wore question mark suits because I

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thought you could get the answer to anything.

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But you have to ask the right questions. That's

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the problem. There's so many answers. You get

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a thousand answers to anything you want. Ask

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the right questions. Now, as I get older, I said,

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OK, that's OK. That's good. But to make it happen,

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your heart has to be in it. I think it's from

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a personal relationship or a professional relationship.

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Ain't going to work unless your heart's in it.

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Because life is a pain in the ass, just like

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a relationship personal. We're all fucked up.

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You're going to see our bad shit no matter what.

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But if your heart is in it, you get through that.

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And it's the same way professionally. Anything

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you do that's new, you're going to have lots

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of failures. That's all it is. But you have to

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get through that. And you don't get through it

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if you think you have the seven steps of success.

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That's a trap because there aren't enough. Maybe

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there's one or two. They're all different for

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everybody else. But if you have those seven steps,

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you get on number three and you fail, you say,

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ah, fuck, why did I give that guy so much money?

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But if it's from your heart and your own ideas,

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you learn from them. You pick your ass up. It's

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sort of like riding a bicycle. When you fall

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down, you say, oh, I can't ride the bicycle.

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I'm going to leave it. No. you get on that bicycle

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again and start figuring this stuff out. And

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that's the only way you're going to get anything,

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particularly professionally or business -wise

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and things like that. And we get advice, the

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wrong advice from loved ones, because loved ones

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want to protect you and they don't want you to

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fail. And when you ask them about doing, I'm

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going to do this, that's not, you're going to

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fail. I just say you're right. You're right.

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I am. Yeah, because that's how you learn. You

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have to do that. And but they want to protect

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you. And so you don't get good advice from loved

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ones. And I love that, Matthew. Using more of

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your heart is definitely, I believe, now the

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way of the world. I believe that things were

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so focused on money and selfish things. You just

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taking the time to say, hey, I'm done helping

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rich people get richer and choosing to do something

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completely different. And it set you apart. Obviously,

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it set you apart to blow up into this person

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that helps people and has fashionably dressed

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all the time. So, you know, I'm going to ask

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you about your fashion, Matthew. Like, go ahead

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and tell me. Back on the love, I couldn't even

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say the word. I mean, growing up at my age, you

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know, it was a macho culture. And the only time

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I felt safe to saying that is when I married

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you. That's what a guy culture is that. You work

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on getting stronger, faster, smarter, you know.

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And when you get 80, none of that shit's going

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to get better. You're just going downhill on

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all those things that you had to work on. But

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I can love harder. Yeah. No matter what age you

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are, you can love harder. And that, I think,

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is the most selfish thing in the world to do.

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Because it feels so good. And that's why I see

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even our community now, we have 5 ,000 people

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that, I mean, 15 ,000 people that help each other

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get this stuff. I thought I couldn't grow a community

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because I can't help everybody. What am I going

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to do? I don't have one person. But no, people

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help people. That's what's so neat about it.

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And not somebody dresses like a clown. How can

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you trust me? But a person like you just learned

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how to do this to me is even more powerful than

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that. But back to the clothes. I'm glad. I'm

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loving it. I'm loving it. I came in with a gray

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shirt on and Matthew said I didn't get the memo.

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I immediately put myself on mute, turned my camera

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off, and I went and got the memo. I said, you

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know what? I'm joining the crew. I'm with Matthew

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all day long. So I want to say I love it. I think

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the brighter you are, the more happier you are.

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That's just my opinion. And also what it does,

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if you're happy, other people are happy. And

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that's what I see. Walk down the street, makes

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people smile. They don't want my work or anything.

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Come up and hug me. Homeless people just get

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off the street and come up and hug me. I don't

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know what it is. And it's just wonderful. Or

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people come up, oh, God, you just made my day.

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I mean, God, if I can do that by being happy,

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man, I have nothing better in the world to do.

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It's just what a wonderful gift every day. then

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I could do it. This has been in me my whole life.

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I never had the courage to wear it and make it

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outside because most of us grow our life by being

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told what we should do and how we should do it.

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And so we're all trying to fit in and be successful.

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And the best thing after me was failure because

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I was failing at everything and not successful.

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So having a shitty time. failing and i'm not

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successful maybe i would have hung in there if

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i was successful right but this is stupid so

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i said i got to reverse this oh my god i do something

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for 30 40 years to maybe have fun and have fun

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today yes yes and and that's when i turned around

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and then this is inside this is me inside and

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i find the more i take what's inside me and we're

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outside a lot of people think i'm idiots i've

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been thrown i've lost millions of dollars thrown

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off tv shows and everything but i just had to

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do it this is me and it brought a lot more uh

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and it just and it's a filter if you think i'm

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an we're saving each other lots of time because

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this is what i really am but if you love this

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i'll love you too oh i love it i love it and

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it's so hard to believe that people you know,

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are judged by based off of what they wear, not

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knowing who Matthew Lesko really is behind everything,

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you know? And I guess that's one thing I love

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about the show. Matthew is the fact that I get

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an opportunity to go to your website and see

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this person, but I get to share with the world.

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The person behind the website, you know, and

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it's like you have followers all over the place.

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You're so happy. And I get to be able to tell

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people he really is happy. We're not encouraged

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to give the best we have. We're encouraged to

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copy somebody else who was successful. And you're

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not going to do that as well as the other person

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because it's natural for them. So we have to

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find out. what is natural for us. And that's

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how we grow the most. If you're trying to grow

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in someone else's, whatever it is, you're not

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going to grow. You're in the right, wrong pot.

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You're a plant. Somebody put you in the wrong

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pot. You're not going to grow. You got to get

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over in the right pot. You could grow. It's crazy

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because I tell you, just getting into the entrepreneur

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life. You tend to want to make someone else.

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You know, it's almost like they're making it.

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So if I do what they do, you have to find yourself.

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But how do you find yourself? Matthew, you're

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81, almost 82. What age did you become to say,

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frick it, I'm going to be Matthew. Let's go no

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matter what. Probably in my early 30s. And the

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problem was all the way through that, because

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when I was doing things, I got an MBA and things

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failing, I said, oh, I've got to start having

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fun because this is stupid. But then when you

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start a little success, then you get back in

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that old mindset. You get all these people, you

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can make more money doing this, you can make

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more money doing that. See, I think what it is,

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nobody knows what to do. We're all guessing.

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And we're all scared as shit. We don't know what

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to do. And so we'll take advice from anybody

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because we're so insecure. And people get more

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money for their advice if they convince you they

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know for sure. Yes, yes, yes. And they don't.

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And when I got into the love thing too, I see

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that's what love is. Love is helping somebody

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do what they want to do. Not what you think they

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should do. Because that's how they're going to

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grow the most, is doing what they think is right.

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They're listening to something. They don't have

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a reason. But if you love that person, you have

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to help them do whatever they want to do. It's

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not telling them what to do. What are the greatest

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joys of what you do? Watching people smile. Yes.

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I mean, your smile now, man, it's ear to ear.

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I had some grandkids here over the weekend. We

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played with them. I say, what gives me the energy?

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I mean, I just entertain the hell out of them

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because they're so easy to make smile. Absolutely.

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And obviously, you make it easy for me to smile.

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And it's so funny as I sit here side by side

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and I'm looking at myself. I'm like, are you

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going to stop smiling, Javanka? No. Right. Well,

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that's our best we have to give, too. Yes, and

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especially when it's authentic and core deep,

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it's a whole different ballgame. Yeah, and that's

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why people in your circle, God, just treasure

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their life so much because they're good parts

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and you're not going to find better. And the

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more you find, we all have bad parts, so we all

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could be assholes. I think that's pretty easy

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to do too. Right, exactly. That comes pretty

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easy. But nothing than that gives. Yeah, the

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more I try to make people smile, the better I

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feel. And listen, my bottom line thought about

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all this is your heart is smarter than your brain.

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Yeah, you have to follow that heart for the important

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questions. I love that. Thank you for being here

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today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to

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Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing

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your reactions as these episodes continue to

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move forward. This is going to get more and more

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fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a vision pro yourself.
