WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.740 Please do me a favor, share where you're located. 00:00:01.980 --> 00:00:04.200 I know your name is easily pronounced, but go 00:00:04.200 --> 00:00:06.440 ahead and do it for me and the name of your business, 00:00:06.599 --> 00:00:09.939 books, or anything else you've done. Hey, Javanka. 00:00:10.039 --> 00:00:13.480 First off, thank you for having me on Vision 00:00:13.480 --> 00:00:15.439 Pros. This is a lot of fun. I know you're out 00:00:15.439 --> 00:00:18.579 in Texas. I'm in L .A. today, downtown L .A. 00:00:19.239 --> 00:00:20.899 That's where I'm stationed. That's where our 00:00:20.899 --> 00:00:23.519 shows are filmed, recorded, all that good stuff 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:27.519 distributed. And the name of my shows, Mission 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:30.800 Matters, I host eight different shows. I have 00:00:30.800 --> 00:00:32.659 a business show, I have a money show, I have 00:00:32.659 --> 00:00:36.179 a marketing show, a tech show, a startup garage 00:00:36.179 --> 00:00:38.060 show, a bunch of different shows that I host. 00:00:38.570 --> 00:00:42.490 6 ,000 interviews and man, having fun, having 00:00:42.490 --> 00:00:46.030 fun and keeping it going. I love that. Okay. 00:00:46.210 --> 00:00:48.990 As I mentioned before, you do a lot. You've done 00:00:48.990 --> 00:00:53.149 a lot. And to have all of these shows, may I 00:00:53.149 --> 00:00:57.479 ask what started all of that? You know, it's 00:00:57.479 --> 00:00:59.399 kind of interesting because it was I like to 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:02.460 call myself an accidental entrepreneur. So in 00:01:02.460 --> 00:01:05.120 the previous book that we distributed and released, 00:01:05.239 --> 00:01:07.659 it's called Driven. And on that book, myself 00:01:07.659 --> 00:01:10.959 and the other co -author, Elliot Callen, he's 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:13.260 he's known as the serial entrepreneur. So he 00:01:13.260 --> 00:01:15.280 started a bunch of businesses distributed and 00:01:15.280 --> 00:01:17.379 then, you know, started sold all that good stuff, 00:01:17.439 --> 00:01:20.480 a bunch of businesses myself. I was a financial 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:22.939 advisor. I was a financial advisor. And eventually 00:01:22.939 --> 00:01:26.560 I ended up I ended. I ended up starting a podcast. 00:01:26.900 --> 00:01:30.200 And after I started that podcast, the business 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:32.799 started to grow. And that's when I got further 00:01:32.799 --> 00:01:36.439 into media. And then, you know, nine years later, 00:01:36.560 --> 00:01:39.579 I can't believe it. I'm like, wow, there's a 00:01:39.579 --> 00:01:43.340 lot of episodes, a lot of content, and really 00:01:43.340 --> 00:01:46.420 a lot of privilege to be able to interview people, 00:01:46.519 --> 00:01:48.939 to be able to come on shows like your own, and 00:01:48.939 --> 00:01:51.390 really to have a lot of fun. You know what's 00:01:51.390 --> 00:01:53.530 crazy? This is going to be so random for you, 00:01:53.569 --> 00:01:58.290 Adam. On your website, you're a star. You look 00:01:58.290 --> 00:02:01.090 like a star. You look like somebody that would 00:02:01.090 --> 00:02:04.569 not, I wouldn't say not communicate with you, 00:02:04.609 --> 00:02:08.569 but you are so down to earth, Adam. I'm from 00:02:08.569 --> 00:02:10.949 the Midwest. I said I'm in L .A. today, but I'm 00:02:10.949 --> 00:02:14.710 from Michigan. Come on now. That's one thing 00:02:14.710 --> 00:02:18.090 about. websites in my opinion as you go on there 00:02:18.090 --> 00:02:19.870 they're very pretty you know they got your best 00:02:19.870 --> 00:02:22.189 picture on there they have your accolades all 00:02:22.189 --> 00:02:24.710 that you've done and one thing I love about what 00:02:24.710 --> 00:02:27.729 I do in this part of my life is the fact that 00:02:27.729 --> 00:02:30.909 I get to allow people to understand there's a 00:02:30.909 --> 00:02:34.449 person behind all of that there's a really great 00:02:34.449 --> 00:02:37.669 person named Adam Torres that is that's human 00:02:37.669 --> 00:02:40.710 too right and so with that being said all these 00:02:40.710 --> 00:02:43.710 businesses didn't just happen overnight in nine 00:02:43.710 --> 00:02:47.139 years Where did where did it get started? Tell 00:02:47.139 --> 00:02:49.020 me like what it was like. You know what? This 00:02:49.020 --> 00:02:51.259 is what I'm going to do. I'm on one. Now I'm 00:02:51.259 --> 00:02:55.379 on two, three, four. Yeah. You know that the 00:02:55.379 --> 00:02:58.460 pile up of episodes was kind of kind of random. 00:02:58.919 --> 00:03:01.080 What it was was I don't I don't like to tell 00:03:01.080 --> 00:03:03.520 people no. So in the beginning, I didn't want 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.199 to tell people no. And then I'm like, and, you 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.400 know, you just start doing one, then you do two. 00:03:08.439 --> 00:03:09.960 In the beginning, you really got to beg people 00:03:09.960 --> 00:03:12.759 to come on the show, right? Then you're like, 00:03:12.819 --> 00:03:14.659 and the first person I ever interviewed was the 00:03:14.659 --> 00:03:17.139 other co -founder here. His name is Chirag Sagar. 00:03:17.479 --> 00:03:19.939 So I was like, and it was his idea to start the 00:03:19.939 --> 00:03:21.719 podcast. I'm like, I'm not starting no podcast. 00:03:21.900 --> 00:03:25.639 I don't even know what a podcast was. And so 00:03:25.639 --> 00:03:29.580 he's the one who eventually twisted my arm. It 00:03:29.580 --> 00:03:33.340 was then we started it. grow but um really with 00:03:33.340 --> 00:03:36.039 those first episodes it was just you know i didn't 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:38.139 even i didn't even edit like you have a fancy 00:03:38.139 --> 00:03:40.699 software you stream yard you you know you have 00:03:40.699 --> 00:03:43.840 all these amazing graphics i used my phone and 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:46.159 i didn't even edit like the first 300 episodes 00:03:46.159 --> 00:03:49.000 like it was just like no audio i did nothing 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:51.319 i was just like recording conversations upload 00:03:51.319 --> 00:03:55.919 it that's a podcast Like that was it. And so 00:03:55.919 --> 00:03:58.680 we accumulated all these episodes. And one day 00:03:58.680 --> 00:04:01.460 we started, you know, releasing one a week. Then 00:04:01.460 --> 00:04:03.879 it was one at one point, one a day. Then it was 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:05.939 two a day. Then it was three a day. And it got 00:04:05.939 --> 00:04:08.719 to the point to where we had something like 70 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:12.639 or 60 or 70 episodes like backlogged. And we 00:04:12.639 --> 00:04:16.240 and I was still had a full schedule. So my record 00:04:16.240 --> 00:04:19.639 is 91 interviews in a week. And my average during 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:21.480 when we first started was over. It was around 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:24.910 six. 65 to 75 would be like my average interview 00:04:24.910 --> 00:04:29.230 schedule for a week. And then one day we had 00:04:29.230 --> 00:04:31.750 a backlog of like 70 interviews or something 00:04:31.750 --> 00:04:35.160 like that. we didn't know what to do. I'm like, 00:04:35.199 --> 00:04:36.759 well, we can't bring somebody on the show and 00:04:36.759 --> 00:04:38.139 tell them, Hey, your episode is going to be released 00:04:38.139 --> 00:04:41.040 in six months. What are you going to do? So, 00:04:41.139 --> 00:04:43.639 so I just told the team, Hey, release them all. 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.100 And they were like, what? And I'm like, yeah, 00:04:46.259 --> 00:04:48.339 they're like, when I'm like now, I don't know. 00:04:48.420 --> 00:04:50.399 Like we got to tell these people, like these 00:04:50.399 --> 00:04:51.800 people want to hear their episodes. We're getting 00:04:51.800 --> 00:04:54.680 emails. I don't want people mad at me. And a 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:56.920 strange thing happened. We released them all. 00:04:57.139 --> 00:05:01.589 And, um, our per episode download went up. So 00:05:01.589 --> 00:05:03.370 if you think about that for a moment, that doesn't 00:05:03.370 --> 00:05:06.170 really make sense. If you really 70 posts on 00:05:06.170 --> 00:05:07.730 Instagram, you'll probably get shadow banned 00:05:07.730 --> 00:05:09.750 or something like that. Or you reach 70 posts 00:05:09.750 --> 00:05:12.970 on Facebook or LinkedIn or something, your content's 00:05:12.970 --> 00:05:14.750 not going to get distributed. And so I don't 00:05:14.750 --> 00:05:16.810 really recommend this for anybody, and I don't 00:05:16.810 --> 00:05:19.730 really know. That's not a strategy I teach. I'm 00:05:19.730 --> 00:05:22.810 just telling you what happened in my life. But 00:05:22.810 --> 00:05:25.569 yeah, our per episode download went up, which 00:05:25.569 --> 00:05:28.050 meant that more people were listening to each 00:05:28.050 --> 00:05:30.569 episode, and it was growing. And I was just like, 00:05:30.569 --> 00:05:33.860 what? well, I guess maybe, you know, the algorithm 00:05:33.860 --> 00:05:37.079 doesn't, you know, people that are into my type 00:05:37.079 --> 00:05:39.779 of content, they're in. And so let's just do 00:05:39.779 --> 00:05:42.079 more. And then you keep doing more. And then 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:44.980 we focus the whole business around that. And, 00:05:44.980 --> 00:05:46.759 you know, that's where we come to now. And this 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:49.319 year I'll do, for example, between 1 ,500 and 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:52.420 2 ,000 interviews. So just this year alone. So 00:05:52.420 --> 00:05:55.980 I do about 40 years of content every year. You 00:05:55.980 --> 00:05:58.279 know, what's interesting is what I got from all 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:01.189 of that is that gummit, just do it. Just do it. 00:06:01.569 --> 00:06:04.689 And I love that. I actually got chills saying 00:06:04.689 --> 00:06:07.069 that out loud. Adam, you didn't think about it. 00:06:07.110 --> 00:06:08.930 And I think that that's what happens with most 00:06:08.930 --> 00:06:11.829 people that want to become entrepreneurs or are 00:06:11.829 --> 00:06:14.589 entrepreneurs. We get into our head and we're 00:06:14.589 --> 00:06:17.709 like, oh, this needs to be perfect. Adam was 00:06:17.709 --> 00:06:21.889 like, load them up. Load them up. I don't care 00:06:21.889 --> 00:06:23.629 what anybody thinks. I don't care what anybody 00:06:23.629 --> 00:06:27.730 says. The service that you're doing. For these 00:06:27.730 --> 00:06:31.149 individuals, it wasn't going to be so quick. 00:06:31.310 --> 00:06:33.470 So he's like, just load them up. And lo and behold, 00:06:33.730 --> 00:06:37.050 we stopped thinking so much and worried about 00:06:37.050 --> 00:06:38.930 what someone else is going to think or what the 00:06:38.930 --> 00:06:42.170 algorithm is going to do. Yeah, it just worked 00:06:42.170 --> 00:06:45.240 out like. That's exciting for me. Yeah, it's 00:06:45.240 --> 00:06:47.459 exciting for me. And ultimately, and looking 00:06:47.459 --> 00:06:49.560 at that, to me, at the end of it all, it's like, 00:06:49.620 --> 00:06:51.899 you know, I mean, God's in control anyway. So 00:06:51.899 --> 00:06:56.699 if that's going to be good or bad at the end, 00:06:56.740 --> 00:06:59.279 you're one person away from whatever, you're 00:06:59.279 --> 00:07:01.939 one phone call away from it being the best day 00:07:01.939 --> 00:07:04.839 of your life or the worst day of your life. So 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:07.079 it doesn't like, you know, I'm like, God's in 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:08.879 control anyway. So if something's going to really, 00:07:08.939 --> 00:07:10.720 really happen, then it's part of my journey. 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:13.949 That's that. Please share with us your vision. 00:07:14.129 --> 00:07:18.240 Yeah. My vision is to continue to help. entrepreneurs, 00:07:18.620 --> 00:07:21.480 executives, experts to help people that maybe 00:07:21.480 --> 00:07:24.740 don't always feel that their voice should be 00:07:24.740 --> 00:07:27.620 heard. My vision is to give them a platform, 00:07:27.740 --> 00:07:29.800 to give them an opportunity, whether it's coming 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:33.220 on my show, whether it's my company helping them 00:07:33.220 --> 00:07:36.139 launch shows. We've launched over 200, now going 00:07:36.139 --> 00:07:40.740 on 250 podcasts for our agency. We've also helped 00:07:40.740 --> 00:07:43.500 people publish books. We published over 400 authors, 00:07:43.620 --> 00:07:46.980 including Barry Sanders, his Bye Bye Barry documentary. 00:07:47.050 --> 00:07:51.209 So my vision is to continue to walk in my calling, 00:07:51.310 --> 00:07:53.350 which is helping others tell their story and 00:07:53.350 --> 00:07:56.389 hopefully maybe at some point inspiring them 00:07:56.389 --> 00:07:58.750 to do so. That's why I come on these shows. It's 00:07:58.750 --> 00:08:00.910 not to not to sell anything, actually. It's just 00:08:00.910 --> 00:08:02.930 because I want other people to know that if I 00:08:02.930 --> 00:08:05.310 can do it, you can do it, too. I was the worst 00:08:05.310 --> 00:08:07.949 podcaster in history. My first show was so bad 00:08:07.949 --> 00:08:11.089 that I didn't even use my own name. I was so 00:08:11.089 --> 00:08:13.449 scared to be behind a mic or anything else. I 00:08:13.449 --> 00:08:15.670 didn't even use my real name. I didn't even do. 00:08:16.269 --> 00:08:18.589 I wasn't even allow myself on camera until after 00:08:18.589 --> 00:08:22.089 3000 episodes, I had such a fear of the camera. 00:08:22.250 --> 00:08:25.889 So think about that 3000 episodes before I even 00:08:25.889 --> 00:08:28.629 turned on the camera to be able to do that. So 00:08:28.629 --> 00:08:31.250 like, if I can do it, you can do it too. That's 00:08:31.250 --> 00:08:32.970 my goal. And if you're listening to this, you 00:08:32.970 --> 00:08:34.809 don't have to use an agency. You don't have to 00:08:34.809 --> 00:08:37.710 go start a show yourself. My, my first show took 00:08:37.710 --> 00:08:39.529 me like 10 minutes to start. I didn't know what 00:08:39.529 --> 00:08:41.190 I was doing. I didn't even know there were podcast 00:08:41.190 --> 00:08:44.669 agencies. So that's my vision to help others 00:08:44.669 --> 00:08:47.740 understand. know, and hopefully be inspired to 00:08:47.740 --> 00:08:50.919 know that their voice matters and that they should 00:08:50.919 --> 00:08:53.360 share their story too. When it comes to Mission 00:08:53.360 --> 00:08:57.409 Matters, why that name? You know, originally, 00:08:57.750 --> 00:09:00.669 the company was actually called Money Matters. 00:09:00.669 --> 00:09:03.429 And I thought it was going to be a, we thought, 00:09:03.529 --> 00:09:05.389 myself and the other co -founder, Sharag, we 00:09:05.389 --> 00:09:06.809 thought that it was going to be like a money 00:09:06.809 --> 00:09:08.830 platform. You know, like, which isn't a bad, 00:09:08.909 --> 00:09:10.830 because I was a financial advisor. My background's 00:09:10.830 --> 00:09:14.090 in finance. So I had almost 15 years of, or 14 00:09:14.090 --> 00:09:17.710 years in that business. And I was running my 00:09:17.710 --> 00:09:21.669 own RIA. And I had this other company on the 00:09:21.669 --> 00:09:23.769 side. And this is the one that I, and I was like, 00:09:23.889 --> 00:09:26.009 you know, just, it wasn't my full time. time 00:09:26.009 --> 00:09:30.549 focused yet and i um over time you know i'm both 00:09:30.549 --> 00:09:33.169 start kind of you know growing things are going 00:09:33.169 --> 00:09:37.389 well and one day i'm i go to um i'm doing an 00:09:37.389 --> 00:09:39.850 interview and somebody says um you know adam 00:09:39.850 --> 00:09:42.889 mission matters or excuse me money matters but 00:09:42.889 --> 00:09:45.590 mission matters too and i'll tell you it was 00:09:45.590 --> 00:09:48.029 like god just like like lightning just hit me 00:09:48.029 --> 00:09:50.210 like god was speaking through this person i could 00:09:50.210 --> 00:09:53.149 feel it and so i called the other um co -founder 00:09:53.149 --> 00:09:55.750 and i'm like hey shrug let's um What do you think 00:09:55.750 --> 00:09:58.129 about the name Mission Matters? And he says, 00:09:58.330 --> 00:10:00.570 well, Adam, you know, we were talking about talking 00:10:00.570 --> 00:10:02.750 about it. We forget about it. And then we leave. 00:10:02.889 --> 00:10:06.149 Then we come back to it. He calls me like maybe 00:10:06.149 --> 00:10:07.809 a month later, something like that, a couple 00:10:07.809 --> 00:10:09.470 weeks later. And he's like, hey, Adam, what do 00:10:09.470 --> 00:10:11.289 you think about the name Mission Matters? And 00:10:11.289 --> 00:10:13.789 I'm like, oh, that's a great idea, Sharag. But 00:10:13.789 --> 00:10:16.730 if we look that up and we don't have like if 00:10:16.730 --> 00:10:18.389 there's enough money in the bank account, we 00:10:18.389 --> 00:10:20.409 have to get the domain. We can't do it if we 00:10:20.409 --> 00:10:22.730 can't get the domain. So he's like, all right, 00:10:22.750 --> 00:10:25.730 we'll do it. Fine. And so we. We look it up. 00:10:25.809 --> 00:10:27.789 It was, of course, taken. We spent more money 00:10:27.789 --> 00:10:29.409 in a domain than I ever thought I would in my 00:10:29.409 --> 00:10:33.250 life. And then we basically, within nine days, 00:10:33.330 --> 00:10:36.110 did a complete rebrand. We restarted everything. 00:10:36.289 --> 00:10:38.990 So brand new show, lost all our subscribers, 00:10:39.570 --> 00:10:43.990 brand new website, new book. I mean, think about 00:10:43.990 --> 00:10:45.690 it this way. We had books already published. 00:10:45.769 --> 00:10:48.750 We had over 1 ,500 interviews out there for the 00:10:48.750 --> 00:10:50.929 O brand. We had a website. We had all our social 00:10:50.929 --> 00:10:54.159 media. It's hard enough to get one media company 00:10:54.159 --> 00:10:58.500 running. So to pause it, stop, and for me, feel 00:10:58.500 --> 00:11:00.820 like, you know, God was telling me to do this. 00:11:00.840 --> 00:11:04.120 And, you know, I'm like, you say step, I got 00:11:04.120 --> 00:11:08.279 to step, right? So it was really a faith -based, 00:11:08.279 --> 00:11:12.570 like, leap over. stopping something that was 00:11:12.570 --> 00:11:15.529 already working and then really starting over 00:11:15.529 --> 00:11:18.190 and starting it again. And within nine days, 00:11:18.289 --> 00:11:20.850 then we had it all relaunched. We had over 30 00:11:20.850 --> 00:11:24.190 social media channels at that point. And all 00:11:24.190 --> 00:11:26.710 the shows were niched out. So instead of it being 00:11:26.710 --> 00:11:28.809 one show, there were eight different shows based 00:11:28.809 --> 00:11:32.210 on the level of content I put out. And we niched 00:11:32.210 --> 00:11:34.090 everything out to where we created an entire 00:11:34.090 --> 00:11:36.629 platform around it. And then things just started 00:11:36.629 --> 00:11:39.669 to grow. So God gave us a calling, told us to 00:11:39.669 --> 00:11:42.000 do something. We did. We leaped in faith and 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:46.200 were rewarded. What was one of your most significant 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:50.169 learning experiences in this all? I think it's 00:11:50.169 --> 00:11:54.570 to not try to emulate what you see. Like you 00:11:54.570 --> 00:11:56.789 got to really be authentic in what you're doing. 00:11:56.929 --> 00:11:58.509 So in the beginning, this is like, you know, 00:11:58.509 --> 00:12:01.370 nine, 10 years ago. So it's kind of like the 00:12:01.370 --> 00:12:04.750 early days of, let's just say, even awareness 00:12:04.750 --> 00:12:07.330 around podcasts, awareness around marketing, 00:12:07.409 --> 00:12:10.070 at least for me, for digital marketing, for like 00:12:10.070 --> 00:12:12.309 creating a brand online. It was kind of awareness. 00:12:12.529 --> 00:12:16.070 And if you look at like some of the earlier content 00:12:16.070 --> 00:12:18.830 I had out there for Money Matters, it wasn't. 00:12:18.889 --> 00:12:22.990 quite authentically me. If it was, then I probably 00:12:22.990 --> 00:12:24.830 wouldn't have put out that content. Not that 00:12:24.830 --> 00:12:27.090 it was off -brand, it was just really hardcore 00:12:27.090 --> 00:12:30.659 money content and it was just that. kind of what 00:12:30.659 --> 00:12:33.659 other people were putting out at that time but 00:12:33.659 --> 00:12:37.179 um it really finding my voice and leaning into 00:12:37.179 --> 00:12:40.100 mission if i would have started with that then 00:12:40.100 --> 00:12:41.480 it probably would have saved me a couple years 00:12:41.480 --> 00:12:43.440 because i would have known like authentically 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.340 in the beginning like that i don't know if i 00:12:45.340 --> 00:12:47.000 would have came up with the mission matters name 00:12:47.000 --> 00:12:49.240 like that again i think that was from god but 00:12:49.240 --> 00:12:52.080 um but i would have probably put out different 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:53.879 like if you look at my first book that i put 00:12:53.879 --> 00:12:56.120 out it's called money matters and it's like me 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.120 in a suit and there's like money on the cover 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:00.980 and stuff like that kind It's super cheesy, super 00:13:00.980 --> 00:13:04.240 cheesy. And I leave it out there on purpose. 00:13:04.320 --> 00:13:06.399 I leave that book out there on purpose. Now, 00:13:06.940 --> 00:13:09.480 back then, that was a self -published book, and 00:13:09.480 --> 00:13:11.940 the design's not perfect, all that. But I leave 00:13:11.940 --> 00:13:13.799 it out there, and I call it my ugly duckling 00:13:13.799 --> 00:13:17.000 because I want people to look at that book and 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:20.080 be like, what? Adam put this? I stand by the 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.580 words, by the way, the story, the words. That's 00:13:22.580 --> 00:13:24.559 all authentically me. But if you look at the 00:13:24.559 --> 00:13:26.960 design and some of the other things, you look 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:29.450 at it, it definitely wasn't me. in retrospect. 00:13:29.730 --> 00:13:33.350 So I think being authentic, not emulating, not 00:13:33.350 --> 00:13:35.570 just looking at what other people are doing and 00:13:35.570 --> 00:13:37.710 thinking if you did that same thing, it's going 00:13:37.710 --> 00:13:40.649 to work for you. Not necessarily the case. So 00:13:40.649 --> 00:13:42.590 just be yourself and you'll be okay. And God 00:13:42.590 --> 00:13:44.350 will put the right people in your place. There's 00:13:44.350 --> 00:13:47.029 more listeners than anybody can ever handle. 00:13:47.129 --> 00:13:49.169 There's more people. If you're supposed to have 00:13:49.169 --> 00:13:51.629 a listener or a business partner or whatever 00:13:51.629 --> 00:13:53.850 attracted to you in your world, it's going to 00:13:53.850 --> 00:13:56.070 come. You just got to keep walking in faith. 00:13:56.590 --> 00:14:01.210 So in regards to legacy dreaming, if you could 00:14:01.210 --> 00:14:04.690 leave behind one invisible legacy, something 00:14:04.690 --> 00:14:09.009 not seen but deeply felt, what would it be? I 00:14:09.009 --> 00:14:12.490 would hope that I inspire others to launch shows. 00:14:13.070 --> 00:14:15.309 Like that would be that would be fun to me. And 00:14:15.309 --> 00:14:17.169 I don't have to be seen. I don't have to be on 00:14:17.169 --> 00:14:19.909 somebody's show for that. But to me, it's multiplying 00:14:19.909 --> 00:14:23.590 the ability to help others. So when I think about 00:14:23.590 --> 00:14:25.669 like, how do you help a billion people? You help 00:14:25.669 --> 00:14:27.549 a thousand people, help a thousand people, help 00:14:27.549 --> 00:14:29.730 a thousand people. And how do you help them? 00:14:29.750 --> 00:14:32.450 In my case, it's helping people tell their story. 00:14:32.509 --> 00:14:34.529 It's helping document it. You know, in the past, 00:14:34.570 --> 00:14:37.529 before podcasts and all this was around, other 00:14:37.529 --> 00:14:39.889 people wrote our stories. Who are the other people, 00:14:39.970 --> 00:14:42.879 quote unquote, people that had access? that had 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:45.179 resources, that maybe had the money, that had 00:14:45.179 --> 00:14:46.960 the, you go far enough back, it's who had the 00:14:46.960 --> 00:14:49.399 paper, who had the papyrus, who had the ink, 00:14:49.480 --> 00:14:51.679 who had the, like, whatever we were writing, 00:14:51.720 --> 00:14:53.779 who had the clay tablet. I don't know how far 00:14:53.779 --> 00:14:56.720 back you got to go for that one, but basically 00:14:56.720 --> 00:15:00.620 now we get to be a part of telling our own story, 00:15:00.740 --> 00:15:04.220 documenting our own histories, and really making 00:15:04.220 --> 00:15:07.570 sure that our legacy and our time is not... forgotten 00:15:07.570 --> 00:15:10.710 or rewritten for us, especially if we're doing 00:15:10.710 --> 00:15:13.669 this stuff in mass. When you think about entire 00:15:13.669 --> 00:15:18.389 moments in history being blotted out or not recollected 00:15:18.389 --> 00:15:21.350 or rewritten by people in power that maybe didn't 00:15:21.350 --> 00:15:22.990 always have our best interest or didn't have 00:15:22.990 --> 00:15:25.710 the general population's best interest and had 00:15:25.710 --> 00:15:28.350 very specific reasons for writing history the 00:15:28.350 --> 00:15:30.990 way they did. Nowadays, it's kind of hard to 00:15:30.990 --> 00:15:33.570 do that if you're participating. If you're participating, 00:15:33.789 --> 00:15:36.429 if you're not participating, well, then one way 00:15:36.429 --> 00:15:38.169 or another your legacy is going to be written 00:15:38.169 --> 00:15:40.129 it's either going to be written by you or somebody 00:15:40.129 --> 00:15:43.070 else what tips do you have for entrepreneurs 00:15:43.070 --> 00:15:48.529 today um i'd say uh get back to reading and studying 00:15:48.529 --> 00:15:51.669 like get back to reading and studying um i'd 00:15:51.669 --> 00:15:55.169 say the other side of um of uh being an entrepreneur 00:15:55.169 --> 00:15:58.950 is um you know equipping yourself when i look 00:15:58.950 --> 00:16:02.279 back in the beginning and especially now um things 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.080 are moving so fast like and so you can go to 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:07.639 chat you can ask the sense you can ask that answer 00:16:07.639 --> 00:16:09.440 you can get some and you can get things back 00:16:09.440 --> 00:16:12.190 quickly But I'd say take a little bit of pause 00:16:12.190 --> 00:16:14.610 and get into like some bigger bodies of work. 00:16:14.669 --> 00:16:16.549 So like look back at some of the classics, get 00:16:16.549 --> 00:16:20.049 to some of the primary sources again and maybe 00:16:20.049 --> 00:16:22.789 do some reading. Maybe like take some time out 00:16:22.789 --> 00:16:25.730 to like just slow up just a little bit, because 00:16:25.730 --> 00:16:29.409 if you can never still those voices, whether 00:16:29.409 --> 00:16:30.750 it's through reading or whether it's through 00:16:30.750 --> 00:16:32.950 something else, then maybe you can't hear what 00:16:32.950 --> 00:16:35.200 you're supposed to be doing. Sometimes we go 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.259 too fast. So just pause a little bit. Read a 00:16:38.259 --> 00:16:42.820 full book one day. Mess with your attention span. 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:47.039 Don't worry. The work's going to be there tomorrow. 00:16:47.240 --> 00:16:50.259 I promise you. And once you solve one problem, 00:16:50.340 --> 00:16:53.159 the next one's coming. So it's okay. But chill. 00:16:53.340 --> 00:16:55.179 Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy 00:16:55.179 --> 00:16:57.440 that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.679 forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes 00:17:00.679 --> 00:17:02.500 continue to move forward. This is going to get 00:17:02.500 --> 00:17:05.079 more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.200 as well. We'll invite people to participate in 00:17:07.200 --> 00:17:09.380 the show. And thank you for giving us your time 00:17:09.380 --> 00:17:11.660 and attention. Have an excellent time building 00:17:11.660 --> 00:17:13.940 out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.