WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.819 How would you describe your vision? Yeah, you 00:00:03.819 --> 00:00:06.059 know, I think vision is such an important topic. 00:00:06.639 --> 00:00:09.640 I was just on the phone with my parents back 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:11.800 home who they brought up to me that there was 00:00:11.800 --> 00:00:13.400 another entrepreneur in the world who created 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:16.739 a special sweater. which has the collar already 00:00:16.739 --> 00:00:18.719 knit into the sweater so that the sweater is 00:00:18.719 --> 00:00:20.019 more comfortable and you don't have to wear a 00:00:20.019 --> 00:00:22.399 collared shirt underneath. The typical, you know, 00:00:22.420 --> 00:00:24.359 Sue, like the New Jersey, New York style where 00:00:24.359 --> 00:00:27.620 everybody has both. And this is a multimillion 00:00:27.620 --> 00:00:30.140 dollar business. And, you know, begs the question, 00:00:30.260 --> 00:00:32.640 why am I spending all the time and effort trying 00:00:32.640 --> 00:00:36.369 to understand this? sentient almost AI technology 00:00:36.369 --> 00:00:39.890 and grapple with the latest of information systems 00:00:39.890 --> 00:00:42.450 when you could do a business like that and it'd 00:00:42.450 --> 00:00:47.250 be quite successful as well. Much easier. But 00:00:47.250 --> 00:00:50.549 truly, my background for the past 10 years, I've 00:00:50.549 --> 00:00:54.270 been in technology. And in high school, someone 00:00:54.270 --> 00:00:57.149 gave me a really lucky break, quite a few mentors 00:00:57.149 --> 00:01:00.600 actually. tinkering around with robotics. And 00:01:00.600 --> 00:01:02.939 I was, you know, helping out with technology 00:01:02.939 --> 00:01:05.680 systems in partnership with Google on my high 00:01:05.680 --> 00:01:08.400 school campus, teaching teachers how to fix printers 00:01:08.400 --> 00:01:10.700 and things like this that just nobody wanted 00:01:10.700 --> 00:01:13.659 to do. And I was always excited about technology. 00:01:13.980 --> 00:01:17.519 And one of my teachers, you know, shout out to 00:01:17.519 --> 00:01:20.579 Brad Crockett at Roseville High School, pushed 00:01:20.579 --> 00:01:23.219 and ushered me to apply for a first in a long 00:01:23.219 --> 00:01:27.019 time internship at HP. And HP then, it's just 00:01:27.019 --> 00:01:29.319 a series of good events, right? HP took a shot 00:01:29.319 --> 00:01:32.219 on a guy who had no career in technology, no 00:01:32.219 --> 00:01:35.260 experience, no family in the industry. They said. 00:01:35.549 --> 00:01:37.769 we're going to hire a high school intern to work 00:01:37.769 --> 00:01:39.489 on our network switches, which were worth millions 00:01:39.489 --> 00:01:43.950 of dollars in this computer lab. Yeah, and things 00:01:43.950 --> 00:01:47.709 did go wrong. Let me tell you. But these days, 00:01:47.769 --> 00:01:51.510 I'm just consumed with the latest of what's happening 00:01:51.510 --> 00:01:54.250 in this industry. And AI, anybody who tells you 00:01:54.250 --> 00:01:56.469 they've been in AI for their whole career, typically 00:01:56.469 --> 00:01:58.629 what they mean is the early forms of machine 00:01:58.629 --> 00:02:00.510 learning and deep learning, which have been around 00:02:00.510 --> 00:02:02.609 as a field of study for quite some time. When 00:02:02.609 --> 00:02:04.810 I was in college, professors of mine said that 00:02:04.840 --> 00:02:07.239 that stuff is reserved to science and academic 00:02:07.239 --> 00:02:12.719 study, right? Too far out, right? But now, you 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.300 know, things have quickly progressed to the point 00:02:15.300 --> 00:02:19.340 where even folks like myself, who perhaps were 00:02:19.340 --> 00:02:23.379 studying AI in college as a means of future understanding 00:02:23.379 --> 00:02:26.460 what might happen one day, we're finding that 00:02:26.460 --> 00:02:28.699 we can actually apply these tools that have been 00:02:28.699 --> 00:02:31.520 trained in, you know, hundreds of millions of 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:34.099 dollars worth of compute time. we can now apply 00:02:34.099 --> 00:02:36.639 them for pennies on the dollar to business problems 00:02:36.639 --> 00:02:38.400 that are real today. It's beautiful. It's really 00:02:38.400 --> 00:02:40.879 exciting stuff. And so that's why I'm all in. 00:02:40.979 --> 00:02:42.800 And I think a lot of folks should be too on their 00:02:42.800 --> 00:02:45.659 business. Let me ask you this. What's your goal 00:02:45.659 --> 00:02:50.740 for being on the Vision Pros show? Yeah, that's 00:02:50.740 --> 00:02:53.909 a fantastic question. You've got like a logo 00:02:53.909 --> 00:02:56.550 of the water project up above. It strikes me 00:02:56.550 --> 00:02:58.310 that you guys are doing something which is impact 00:02:58.310 --> 00:03:01.949 focused and that, you know, vision as broad of 00:03:01.949 --> 00:03:04.669 a topic as it might seem sort of is the core 00:03:04.669 --> 00:03:06.650 of all of it. Right. What are you focusing in 00:03:06.650 --> 00:03:08.030 on in the world and what do you want to make 00:03:08.030 --> 00:03:10.729 better with your sort of fleeting life that we 00:03:10.729 --> 00:03:12.590 have here on Earth? And I think it's important. 00:03:12.689 --> 00:03:15.469 It's important to have these conversations and 00:03:15.469 --> 00:03:18.110 to give people a space to discuss them. And I'm 00:03:18.110 --> 00:03:20.090 just grateful for the opportunity to discuss 00:03:20.090 --> 00:03:23.460 with you as well. That's so cool. All right. 00:03:23.460 --> 00:03:25.879 Looking at, you know, we heard about your vision. 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:30.460 What's the why behind this? Yeah. Yeah. That's 00:03:30.460 --> 00:03:33.800 a tremendous question. So I spent the past five 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:37.819 years in big consulting, Fortune 500s in New 00:03:37.819 --> 00:03:41.560 York City, helping, you know, CXOs, chief information 00:03:41.560 --> 00:03:45.379 officers, CTOs, CEOs, helping them understand. 00:03:46.540 --> 00:03:48.939 emerging technologies, which weren't always just 00:03:48.939 --> 00:03:52.360 AI, right? It was sort of a grab bag of what 00:03:52.360 --> 00:03:54.300 are the things coming in three to five years 00:03:54.300 --> 00:03:56.919 time that we need to make sure to place strategic 00:03:56.919 --> 00:03:59.159 bets on today so that we don't get left behind. 00:03:59.759 --> 00:04:02.939 And these are important considerations. And I 00:04:02.939 --> 00:04:06.400 think I learned a great deal about just how relevant 00:04:06.400 --> 00:04:08.719 some of these things can be at the enterprise 00:04:08.719 --> 00:04:13.620 level. But then I saw in comparison to the millions 00:04:13.620 --> 00:04:16.500 that these enterprises have to spend on staying 00:04:16.500 --> 00:04:19.439 relevant as technology adapts, a lot of small 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:22.420 and medium sized businesses, I think by comparison, 00:04:22.500 --> 00:04:25.279 are left behind by these new waves of technology 00:04:25.279 --> 00:04:29.660 and innovation. AI is without a doubt like the 00:04:29.660 --> 00:04:31.959 biggest innovation that we've seen in a tremendously 00:04:31.959 --> 00:04:34.639 long time. I don't want to make hyperbole here, 00:04:34.740 --> 00:04:37.199 but I think it's safe to say that it's akin to 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.879 electricity. It's perhaps bigger than the Internet, 00:04:40.019 --> 00:04:42.819 depending on how quickly things get adopted and 00:04:42.819 --> 00:04:45.360 rapidly change here in the next two to five years. 00:04:45.680 --> 00:04:49.500 And I think we need to focus in on finding ways 00:04:49.500 --> 00:04:51.540 to apply this technology to business problems 00:04:51.540 --> 00:04:55.180 where it counts and for human flourishing to 00:04:55.180 --> 00:04:57.759 be a key part of that. And so for me, my why 00:04:57.759 --> 00:05:00.699 is to help in that process and hopefully bring 00:05:00.699 --> 00:05:02.600 some friends along for the ride and build a really 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:05.759 incredible team. And, you know, we get to solve 00:05:05.759 --> 00:05:07.819 the fun problems in the world and help people 00:05:07.819 --> 00:05:10.220 where it counts. What would you say is the story 00:05:10.220 --> 00:05:18.420 behind your why? You know, that's when somebody 00:05:18.420 --> 00:05:21.920 asks you why twice, it certainly causes you to 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:25.709 pause and think. Yeah, I think. The surface level 00:05:25.709 --> 00:05:27.850 why is an easy thing to answer. Every business 00:05:27.850 --> 00:05:29.470 has that nailed down. It's part of the mission 00:05:29.470 --> 00:05:32.529 statement and the vision statement. The deeper 00:05:32.529 --> 00:05:36.889 why, you know, I think I'm motivated by a whole 00:05:36.889 --> 00:05:42.750 host of things. And personally, I just feel like 00:05:42.750 --> 00:05:48.389 as human beings, we have a very narrow window 00:05:48.389 --> 00:05:53.860 of time to help others around us. to truly be 00:05:53.860 --> 00:05:58.100 a part of something special, to live an adventureful 00:05:58.100 --> 00:06:02.399 and a memorable life, and to prioritize sort 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:05.160 of the greatest amount of learning and breadth 00:06:05.160 --> 00:06:09.339 of experience we can. And so perhaps my deeper 00:06:09.339 --> 00:06:13.680 why is that I think entrepreneurship, I think 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:16.560 business, and I think for me, technology, but 00:06:16.560 --> 00:06:19.040 it could be for the audience, anything that you're 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:22.050 passionate about. I think they're a tremendous 00:06:22.050 --> 00:06:26.910 opportunity for the exploration of the boundaries 00:06:26.910 --> 00:06:30.050 of who I am as a human being and the fullness 00:06:30.050 --> 00:06:32.829 of life that I might be able to live. Beautiful. 00:06:33.350 --> 00:06:36.110 I like that. Thank you. You went deeper. That 00:06:36.110 --> 00:06:40.670 was really cool. Yeah. That's the one. That's 00:06:40.670 --> 00:06:44.230 the one. That's so good. All right. Now this 00:06:44.230 --> 00:06:47.810 one, you take that heart vision. Where are you 00:06:47.810 --> 00:06:54.399 going with it? Yeah, so we live in like a post 00:06:54.399 --> 00:06:58.139 -industrial society, right? You know, you might 00:06:58.139 --> 00:07:01.240 have found yourself early electricity era. You 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.000 might have found yourself in a factory with poor 00:07:03.000 --> 00:07:06.120 working conditions and, you know, rapidly advancing 00:07:06.120 --> 00:07:08.439 technology all around you, but largely speaking, 00:07:08.660 --> 00:07:12.000 sort of displaced from a good quality of life 00:07:12.000 --> 00:07:14.699 and a good job. In our post -industrial society, 00:07:14.899 --> 00:07:18.420 we have a knowledge economy. Right. And so information 00:07:18.420 --> 00:07:22.379 is power, as the term goes. Right. Information 00:07:22.379 --> 00:07:26.639 is perhaps wealth as well. Access to information, 00:07:26.740 --> 00:07:29.540 access to attention are perhaps the most coveted 00:07:29.540 --> 00:07:33.629 resources of our society today. And artificial 00:07:33.629 --> 00:07:37.449 intelligence is an information source, right? 00:07:37.550 --> 00:07:41.089 In many ways, we've created a new system for 00:07:41.089 --> 00:07:43.509 not just turning information into new ideas for 00:07:43.509 --> 00:07:45.990 people, right? But also then turning that into 00:07:45.990 --> 00:07:50.189 creation and action. And so I think when people 00:07:50.189 --> 00:07:52.189 talk about these buzzwords, a lot of them flying 00:07:52.189 --> 00:07:54.129 around, but I'll draw out a couple just for the 00:07:54.129 --> 00:07:56.709 audience here to grasp what I'm going towards. 00:07:57.449 --> 00:08:01.000 Agents, right? Automation. large language models, 00:08:01.319 --> 00:08:05.959 these generative AI groupings of terms, I think 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:09.879 oftentimes what people are pointing to is an 00:08:09.879 --> 00:08:14.319 intelligence which doesn't just receive and digest 00:08:14.319 --> 00:08:18.420 and present to you information, but an intelligence 00:08:18.420 --> 00:08:22.100 which actually then takes action, which actually 00:08:22.100 --> 00:08:25.399 is then digesting the information and doing something 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:29.339 for you. And I think executives... Top leaders 00:08:29.339 --> 00:08:32.500 of companies, maybe wealthy people, billionaires 00:08:32.500 --> 00:08:35.559 of the world, have had that experience in interacting 00:08:35.559 --> 00:08:38.500 with humanity for a long time, right? With enough 00:08:38.500 --> 00:08:40.519 power, you're able to tell anyone to do something 00:08:40.519 --> 00:08:44.960 for you and forget about it. But now, in much 00:08:44.960 --> 00:08:48.940 the same way that early automobiles reduced the 00:08:48.940 --> 00:08:52.620 cost of transportation for all, AI and automation 00:08:52.620 --> 00:08:57.220 have reduced the cost of our ability to execute. 00:08:57.740 --> 00:09:01.519 on our ideas and on our vision. And so now we're 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:03.840 all more creative and our potential is much greater. 00:09:03.980 --> 00:09:06.000 And so I think that's where we're going with 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:09.360 the vision. The long -term goal is to have human 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:11.500 beings be more creative than they've ever been 00:09:11.500 --> 00:09:14.379 before and to find newfound joy in those creative 00:09:14.379 --> 00:09:17.120 pursuits and those passions, and hopefully to 00:09:17.120 --> 00:09:19.179 spend more time connected to each other and less 00:09:19.179 --> 00:09:23.539 time hooked in directly to the screen. I like 00:09:23.539 --> 00:09:26.350 that a lot. that's a it's very powerful seeing 00:09:26.350 --> 00:09:29.750 what's coming up you know that's yeah that's 00:09:29.750 --> 00:09:32.830 amazing all right i wanted to ask you how did 00:09:32.830 --> 00:09:36.070 you get started like i know you had the hp that's 00:09:36.070 --> 00:09:40.049 incredible but for this venture itself like are 00:09:40.049 --> 00:09:43.110 you're the founder right how did this how did 00:09:43.110 --> 00:09:45.669 this that's right that's right so you know uh 00:09:45.669 --> 00:09:48.590 probably my earliest experiences with true artificial 00:09:48.590 --> 00:09:52.269 intelligence and ai were in university and so 00:09:52.269 --> 00:09:54.850 while i was in college i studied computer science 00:09:54.850 --> 00:09:57.730 and i spent some time with peers of mine we built 00:09:57.730 --> 00:09:59.830 applications that were very rudimentary right 00:09:59.830 --> 00:10:02.629 by all industry standards today and by scientific 00:10:02.629 --> 00:10:05.610 standards perhaps unimpressive but we built AI 00:10:05.610 --> 00:10:08.769 systems that would detect, for example, if somebody 00:10:08.769 --> 00:10:10.870 was doing a workout properly. And we built AI 00:10:10.870 --> 00:10:14.669 systems that would analyze user profiles and 00:10:14.669 --> 00:10:16.850 detect if they were swiping on certain things 00:10:16.850 --> 00:10:19.850 to recommend to them social media, for example. 00:10:20.009 --> 00:10:23.090 And lots of these AI systems are everywhere in 00:10:23.090 --> 00:10:26.769 society today. And I think for me, getting started 00:10:26.769 --> 00:10:28.750 was just a matter of experimenting and playing 00:10:28.750 --> 00:10:31.250 with these things. And I always had that North 00:10:31.250 --> 00:10:33.450 Star in mind that, you know what, it's worth 00:10:33.450 --> 00:10:36.340 it. to try to create new technology in the world 00:10:36.340 --> 00:10:38.779 to build business it's worth it to try to help 00:10:38.779 --> 00:10:41.820 somebody and it's i think it's a righteous pursuit 00:10:41.820 --> 00:10:44.200 to try to help somebody in a niche with a problem 00:10:44.200 --> 00:10:47.720 that you understand and with a sort of aptitude 00:10:47.720 --> 00:10:50.639 or a curiosity that you naturally have and so 00:10:50.639 --> 00:10:53.539 for me getting started was a matter of experimenting 00:10:53.539 --> 00:10:57.200 and then i was so fortunate that mentors came 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:00.480 along and you know as i was along for this journey 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:03.389 of learning and experimenting You know, for example, 00:11:03.389 --> 00:11:06.269 I was introduced to someone who is now an investor 00:11:06.269 --> 00:11:08.750 in my business today early on in university. 00:11:09.129 --> 00:11:11.070 And we've known each other for over 10 years. 00:11:11.169 --> 00:11:14.429 Right. It's like this early story of me watching 00:11:14.429 --> 00:11:17.909 him build a successful business and his business 00:11:17.909 --> 00:11:20.929 absolutely flourishing today. Right. And and 00:11:20.929 --> 00:11:23.669 now he's become the mentor that's given me enough 00:11:23.669 --> 00:11:27.009 self -confidence and enough sort of a backing 00:11:27.009 --> 00:11:29.450 of understanding that now I feel ready to kind 00:11:29.450 --> 00:11:31.759 of jump out and do this thing on my own. But 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.620 it's really just a litany of those experiences 00:11:33.620 --> 00:11:36.539 of testing the waters and then having people 00:11:36.539 --> 00:11:38.899 along with me, encouraging me, saying, you know 00:11:38.899 --> 00:11:41.139 what? You can do this. This is something you 00:11:41.139 --> 00:11:43.720 can do. And you should absolutely go and pursue 00:11:43.720 --> 00:11:45.340 these opportunities. And you should continue 00:11:45.340 --> 00:11:47.539 to learn. And you should dabble in these things 00:11:47.539 --> 00:11:50.539 that you think may one day be this big enterprise. 00:11:51.100 --> 00:11:53.559 But you have to think long term and really just 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:57.139 start small wherever you are. Yeah. So you have 00:11:57.139 --> 00:12:00.429 an investor, which is really cool. It also adds 00:12:00.429 --> 00:12:05.509 a layer of extra responsibility in a sense, or, 00:12:05.529 --> 00:12:09.070 you know, how has that gone for you? That's right. 00:12:09.549 --> 00:12:12.110 Yeah, it's, I mean, it's nerve wracking, but 00:12:12.110 --> 00:12:16.269 I don't think that's, you know, personally, I 00:12:16.269 --> 00:12:18.409 want to make sure that that investment goes to 00:12:18.409 --> 00:12:21.149 good use. Personally, my mindset on business, 00:12:21.210 --> 00:12:22.809 and there's a lot of different founders who approach 00:12:22.809 --> 00:12:25.850 things differently. My mindset is to sort of 00:12:25.850 --> 00:12:28.129 bootstrap and remain profitable, right? Not to 00:12:28.129 --> 00:12:30.129 take too much risk, not to take too much leverage. 00:12:30.350 --> 00:12:32.669 Like, let's just build a business that works 00:12:32.669 --> 00:12:34.909 from the beginning. And if you can make a business 00:12:34.909 --> 00:12:37.190 work in, you know, sort of the beginning stages 00:12:37.190 --> 00:12:39.649 where you don't need a lot of money for marketing 00:12:39.649 --> 00:12:42.009 anyways, you don't have a large team and everybody 00:12:42.009 --> 00:12:45.000 is sort of just figuring things out. Then I'd 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:47.480 imagine, and I'm not a seasoned enough entrepreneur 00:12:47.480 --> 00:12:49.299 to tell you if this works or not personally, 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:51.240 but based off of what I've heard and studied, 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:53.539 I'd imagine you can build a long -term, really 00:12:53.539 --> 00:12:55.299 successful business that doesn't need to have 00:12:55.299 --> 00:12:58.419 a $1 billion exit, right? You don't need to have 00:12:58.419 --> 00:13:01.220 100 investors on your cap table, each of them 00:13:01.220 --> 00:13:03.940 more greedy for the next exit opportunity or 00:13:03.940 --> 00:13:06.519 the next multiple on your valuation. All of that 00:13:06.519 --> 00:13:09.379 raises the stakes on an entrepreneur almost having, 00:13:09.500 --> 00:13:12.080 you know. all these other parties that are interested 00:13:12.080 --> 00:13:14.379 in different things my motives i want to be able 00:13:14.379 --> 00:13:17.120 to keep those in line with who i am as an entrepreneur 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:19.220 and what i believe is worth doing in the world 00:13:19.220 --> 00:13:21.019 especially in the case of ai right there's a 00:13:21.019 --> 00:13:23.080 lot of things that i might not actually want 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:25.899 to spend my time building and so uh you know 00:13:25.899 --> 00:13:29.019 with the investor that i have and with the relatively 00:13:29.019 --> 00:13:33.960 uh you know reduced scope of the dream we're 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:36.500 able to solve these things well that's great 00:13:36.500 --> 00:13:42.659 one more what what does success look like for 00:13:42.659 --> 00:13:45.639 you um you know for the business that's one thing 00:13:45.639 --> 00:13:48.779 but the thing that's like i want to go yeah deep 00:13:48.779 --> 00:13:50.980 on this what what are you going to look back 00:13:50.980 --> 00:13:55.320 and say yes this was successful success to me 00:13:55.320 --> 00:13:59.820 uh looks like 10 years from today right when 00:13:59.820 --> 00:14:03.620 ai has become this ubiquitous general intelligent 00:14:03.620 --> 00:14:08.820 technology success to me looks like perhaps 10 00:14:08.820 --> 00:14:14.059 to 100 really happy customers that have fully 00:14:14.059 --> 00:14:16.980 adopted the new automation intelligence in their 00:14:16.980 --> 00:14:19.360 business, have found newfound profitability, 00:14:19.740 --> 00:14:23.340 and have found a sort of renewed sense of enthusiasm 00:14:23.340 --> 00:14:25.940 for their industry and their careers as a result. 00:14:26.379 --> 00:14:30.100 There's this study out of Harvard recently. This 00:14:30.100 --> 00:14:33.100 guy, Ethan Mollick out of Wharton, partnered 00:14:33.100 --> 00:14:35.779 up with some researchers at Harvard. to do this 00:14:35.779 --> 00:14:38.440 study on whether teams are more productive with 00:14:38.440 --> 00:14:41.480 ai and so they studied procter and gamble employees 00:14:41.480 --> 00:14:44.960 700 of them over 700 and and they found that 00:14:44.960 --> 00:14:48.059 uh you know for example comparing one individual 00:14:48.059 --> 00:14:53.519 without ai with five individuals without ai right 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:56.299 the five will always perform better comparing 00:14:56.299 --> 00:15:00.480 one individual with ai against the five without 00:15:00.480 --> 00:15:04.210 the one individual gets pretty close but then 00:15:04.210 --> 00:15:07.190 what happens when you compare the five without 00:15:07.190 --> 00:15:11.750 ai to the five with satisfaction in work goes 00:15:11.750 --> 00:15:15.990 up like the ai is a good addition as a team member 00:15:15.990 --> 00:15:18.769 to the team and not only does satisfaction go 00:15:18.769 --> 00:15:20.870 up but of course the you've seen the results 00:15:20.870 --> 00:15:23.169 almost naturally in your head here from all the 00:15:23.169 --> 00:15:26.370 other headlines throughout the years but of course 00:15:26.370 --> 00:15:29.350 productivity goes up as well and so i think success 00:15:29.350 --> 00:15:31.870 is helping people along on that journey and then 00:15:32.519 --> 00:15:35.159 Honestly, I would just love to continue to build 00:15:35.159 --> 00:15:38.080 this culture and this environment where for the 00:15:38.080 --> 00:15:40.700 next 10, 20, 30 years of my career, I can do 00:15:40.700 --> 00:15:43.519 things like this at the intersection of automation, 00:15:43.820 --> 00:15:47.399 intelligence, information systems, and to do 00:15:47.399 --> 00:15:49.860 it well for clients and to not look back, right? 00:15:49.919 --> 00:15:53.080 To keep that career rolling and rolling smoothly 00:15:53.080 --> 00:15:57.570 for the next decade. It would be fantastic. Thank 00:15:57.570 --> 00:15:59.529 you for being here today. I'm really happy that 00:15:59.529 --> 00:16:01.570 you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking 00:16:01.570 --> 00:16:04.830 forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes 00:16:04.830 --> 00:16:06.629 continue to move forward. This is going to get 00:16:06.629 --> 00:16:09.210 more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement 00:16:09.210 --> 00:16:11.330 as well. We'll invite people to participate in 00:16:11.330 --> 00:16:13.509 the show and thank you for giving us your time 00:16:13.509 --> 00:16:15.789 and attention. Have an excellent time building 00:16:15.789 --> 00:16:18.149 out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.