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Tell me about your vision, man. To help people,

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man. I think, I mean, that's general, but the

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big vision is how can I build a personal brand?

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How can I get more helpful resources out in the

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world that can add value, right? And so I think

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there's elements of this that I think I didn't

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go through at the beginning or I didn't understand

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at the beginning that helped me kind of leverage

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the ability to now reach more people than ever.

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One of my mentors, he got to talk to Richard

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Branson, who has the 400 companies of Virgin

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Air, Virgin Records, all this. And he got to

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ask him, hey, what's the most important thing

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that someone can do to build success in life

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and in business? He said, branding is a big thing.

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Now, if you dissect Richard Branson's companies

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for instance, most of them were franchised from

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his name. He didn't actually just start them.

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They liked his name and they wanted to be a part

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of it. So they kind of franchised that because

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he leveraged the power of the brand. So something

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that everybody maybe could take away from this,

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something I learned. is that building a personal

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brand, regardless of where you're at in your

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career or offering, it can always pivot, but

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you always carry your personal brand. So the

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value you can give is what's going to be able

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to be relational to the value and the help that

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you can expand and give impact with. So my vision

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is how can I create more content? How can I create

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more value? Courses, materials, books, programs,

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speaking engagements, networks, podcast networks,

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to be able to help serve people. all sorts of

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different ways with the needs that people have

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today i love that man i love that you you brought

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up a subject that i'm pretty outspoken about

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from the opposite angle yet it's not from a position

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of that doesn't work it's from a this too context

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and so here's so i'm gonna i'm gonna juxtaposition

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that for all you visionaries out there um one

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i i've never heard anybody talk about that personal

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branding in such a holistic fashion as Nathan

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just did. It's often used as a way to actually

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constrict, and it typically ruins an individual's

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ability to move their purpose forward. And you

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see that no further than the university models.

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Universities have existed for thousands of years,

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and they've done really, really well because

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they're not positioned based on one person's

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individual Whereas a lot of brands that have

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a lot of people who self -branded David Sandler

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is a great example. We were talking about him

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before Nathan, the system, the Institute, it's

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a shadow of the man. And I think that he accidentally

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positioned his brand too far around himself.

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I think Tony Robbins may suffer the same fate.

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And that once Tony dies, that's, you know, there's

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not really an entity for people to stand with.

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And I hope I'm wrong about that because he does

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a lot of great things, but. When I look at Richard

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Branson, most people who know Richard Branson

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know Virgin, you know, as the base of the core

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brands. And I believe that Virgin has a stronger

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chance of moving forward as an entity, much like

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the universities do. I don't know who the founder

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of Harvard was. I don't know who the founder

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of Stanford was. You know, I don't know who the

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founder of Google is, even though they're still

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alive. But I also look in juxtaposition that

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with like George Gervin, the Iceman in basketball.

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Here's a man who was top 50 that I don't think

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very many people know these days. Yet they all

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know the NBA and the NBA is going just fine.

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And while it seems like nobody's going to forget

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Michael Jordan, LeBron James, 300 years later

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may share a different story. We don't know until

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we get there. But again, I want to present both

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those ideas to you as vision pros, because I've

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never heard anybody speak so much truth. into

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the value of a personal brand as you just did,

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Nathan. And it's something I've studied for a

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very long time and it makes me open my ears and

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eyes open and saying, whoa, what else can Nathan

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teach me about this? So we're going to be bringing

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Nathan back for a much bigger influence. But

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if you just had one more chance to share one

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thing with the audience, Nathan, and that was

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it, that was your last chance to talk to him,

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what would it be? Well, I'll mention this. The

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people that do the most amount of impact are

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ones that know how to communicate well. And that's

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leveraged with knowing the skill of sales and

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negotiations. I'll mention this. There's two

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characteristics that I've seen after training

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tons of different salespeople and managed people

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where we're doing millions a month. And the two

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traits and characteristics that I found that

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someone was so well with sales was one, they

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were confident in themselves. Knowing they knew

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who they were. They knew who their maker was.

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They knew the connection that they have of like

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identity and not identity crisis where someone

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comes across really meek and like weak kind of

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figure because they don't know who they are.

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The people that do well in life are ones that

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are confident, not arrogant, but just confident

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in themselves. That's the first trait. The other

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one is conviction behind what they're offering.

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I can have conviction knowing that my kids need

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to eat vegetables. I can have conviction that,

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hey, I need to find this amazing lady or this

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amazing man that could be in my life and that

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can be able to have an amazing relationship with.

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But even in sales, it has a bad rap because of

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the Boyle Room or the Wolf of Wall Street where

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people were out to just take rather than just

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give. And I think that is put a bad taste in

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people's mouth. But if you can say, hey, there's

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one skill that I need to learn right now in your

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business, it's sales, because that's going to

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be really helpful. I bucket business in four

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different ways. You know, Jackson, you could

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tell me if you have a different perspective on

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this, but I find that there's four different

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things in business. You got to know how to market

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yourself. You know how to sell your service.

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You know how to do the fulfillment or, you know,

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prioritize something. And then you need to know

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how to build systems, automations and leadership.

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within that. And those four categories, it's

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hard to learn a lot in all those things with

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building a business because there's a lot of

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things. If I work for a company, all I need is

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to know how to do one of those. And that's where

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most people are followers and they just learn

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that one skill. So if someone wants to learn

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how to build a business, they got to learn all

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four. But the biggest one, the biggest leverage

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and the bang for your buck is learning how to

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do sales. And this is what I teach a lot of my

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students is I can have a lot of leads, but horrible

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at sales. Or I can be really good at sales, but

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no leads. There's a big overlap with sales and

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marketing that can help you build and scale a

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business. So if I would leave you with anything,

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know your maker, build a strong identity of who

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you are, and then leverage knowing how to make

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more money so you can give more. Thank you for

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being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned

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in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to

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seeing your reactions as these episodes continue

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to move forward. This is going to get more and

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more fun. We'll have more and more engagement

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as well. We'll invite people to participate in

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the show and thank you for giving us your time

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and attention. Have an excellent time building

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out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.
