WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:01.760 Please share with me your first, last name and 00:00:01.760 --> 00:00:05.960 where you're located. Excellent. Stephen Zeller. 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:08.779 Thanks for having me on, by the way. I'm located 00:00:08.779 --> 00:00:11.679 primarily in Florida. I do bounce around a lot, 00:00:11.720 --> 00:00:14.539 however. So go ahead, Stephen, and guide me. 00:00:14.580 --> 00:00:19.420 I know that you're fast in technology and future. 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:23.760 And so please share with me. Sure, absolutely. 00:00:24.059 --> 00:00:27.820 So I am a international entrepreneur, started 00:00:27.820 --> 00:00:31.839 at the age of 18 and went through a very fun 00:00:31.839 --> 00:00:34.179 rollercoaster ride of entrepreneurship, lots 00:00:34.179 --> 00:00:37.320 of successes, lots of failures, as is the case 00:00:37.320 --> 00:00:41.579 in most people's stories. But I'm luckily now 00:00:41.579 --> 00:00:44.200 able to focus on my passion, which is innovative 00:00:44.200 --> 00:00:47.119 technology and advancing human civilization into 00:00:47.119 --> 00:00:56.439 a prosperous future. pro -tech vision for where 00:00:56.439 --> 00:01:00.979 we could take this world if we choose to. And 00:01:00.979 --> 00:01:03.439 it's so funny because I got chills. You know, 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:07.200 when you say technology, pro -tech, you know, 00:01:07.219 --> 00:01:09.879 in the future, if we choose to, please tell me 00:01:09.879 --> 00:01:13.040 more about the if we choose to. Sure, absolutely. 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:16.079 So obviously technology can be used for good. 00:01:16.120 --> 00:01:18.140 It can be used for evil, obviously, in the hands 00:01:18.140 --> 00:01:25.109 of now. uh or ill -willed people it can actually 00:01:25.109 --> 00:01:29.189 do a lot of harm for the world but that same 00:01:29.189 --> 00:01:31.549 technology when leveraged correctly can take 00:01:31.549 --> 00:01:35.829 us into a incredible harmonious symbiotic future 00:01:35.829 --> 00:01:39.030 and that's what i think that we are i believe 00:01:39.030 --> 00:01:41.049 that goodwill Ultimately, when there's a lot 00:01:41.049 --> 00:01:42.870 of people, especially if you watch mainstream 00:01:42.870 --> 00:01:44.790 media, that will disagree with that and like 00:01:44.790 --> 00:01:49.170 to sell fear. I am not one of those people because 00:01:49.170 --> 00:01:51.829 I actually think the implications of what we're 00:01:51.829 --> 00:01:54.950 developing right now across multiple variables 00:01:54.950 --> 00:01:58.109 that maybe we can discuss briefly here momentarily 00:01:58.109 --> 00:02:01.989 is absolutely something that is going to be beneficial 00:02:01.989 --> 00:02:05.890 to humankind as opposed to detrimental. OK, let's 00:02:05.890 --> 00:02:08.229 go with the beneficial. Definitely. I'm looking 00:02:08.229 --> 00:02:10.919 forward to hearing about that. Excellent. So 00:02:10.919 --> 00:02:14.319 my vision for the future is a world in which 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:17.560 we conquer the inevitability of biological aging 00:02:17.560 --> 00:02:21.719 and death. We expand our footprint and become 00:02:21.719 --> 00:02:24.479 an interplanetary or multi -planetary species. 00:02:24.620 --> 00:02:29.259 And we expand our footprint out of our original 00:02:29.259 --> 00:02:32.379 confined environment, which is Earth, obviously. 00:02:32.939 --> 00:02:37.960 We live in symbiotic harmony. with AI and robotics 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:41.300 instead of the doomsday sayers of, oh, they're 00:02:41.300 --> 00:02:43.759 going to take all of our jobs and Terminator 00:02:43.759 --> 00:02:47.259 style be the end of humanity as we know it. And 00:02:47.259 --> 00:02:50.819 then lastly, I see a world rapidly approaching 00:02:50.819 --> 00:02:54.060 in which we eradicate poverty and afflictions 00:02:54.060 --> 00:02:57.960 like neurodegenerative disease and cancer. Yeah. 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:01.620 And you know, interesting enough is for me, and 00:03:01.620 --> 00:03:04.800 I'm wondering for a listener, is this something 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:08.020 we don't get an opportunity to talk about, right? 00:03:08.139 --> 00:03:12.020 So of course, AI is all over the place and that's 00:03:12.020 --> 00:03:15.240 usually meant to enhance businesses and things 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:18.840 as such. As you talk about it, how do you envision 00:03:18.840 --> 00:03:22.840 us as humans and AI co -involving without losing 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:26.460 what makes us humans? Right, absolutely. It will 00:03:26.460 --> 00:03:29.620 enhance what makes us human. Humans have always 00:03:29.620 --> 00:03:35.830 been designed. for adaptation and growth so technology 00:03:35.830 --> 00:03:40.930 has only ever enhanced our capabilities so humans 00:03:40.930 --> 00:03:44.229 our biological brains are absolutely the most 00:03:44.229 --> 00:03:46.490 efficient piece of technology in existence that 00:03:46.490 --> 00:03:50.610 we know of um and it's incredible what we can 00:03:50.610 --> 00:03:53.909 do the processing power and it's actually crazy 00:03:53.909 --> 00:03:55.710 when you think about the fact that we're still 00:03:55.710 --> 00:04:02.330 um under utilizing our capabilities so the ingenuity 00:04:02.330 --> 00:04:06.610 that every single human possess should is designed 00:04:06.610 --> 00:04:10.590 for higher level thinking so mundane tasks should 00:04:10.590 --> 00:04:15.129 be optimized it should be taken over by technology 00:04:15.129 --> 00:04:18.569 technological improvements should continuously 00:04:18.569 --> 00:04:22.029 raise the bar it should eliminate lower level 00:04:22.029 --> 00:04:25.889 thinking jobs and tasks and it should give humans 00:04:25.889 --> 00:04:29.269 the ability to do what we are designed for um 00:04:29.269 --> 00:04:31.889 to be completely honest just this might be somewhat 00:04:31.889 --> 00:04:34.350 controversial and a lot of people might hate 00:04:34.350 --> 00:04:37.470 hearing this but i believe it's such a waste 00:04:37.470 --> 00:04:40.170 of human potential and ingenuity to see somebody 00:04:40.170 --> 00:04:43.649 on an assembly line doing a repetitive task over 00:04:43.649 --> 00:04:46.579 and over again when They are selling themselves 00:04:46.579 --> 00:04:50.740 so short and don't even realize what they have 00:04:50.740 --> 00:04:53.379 access to, the power of their human cognitive 00:04:53.379 --> 00:04:58.259 capabilities. So tech to live in symbiotic harmony 00:04:58.259 --> 00:05:01.220 with tech, you have to eradicate the fear of 00:05:01.220 --> 00:05:04.199 it's going to displace jobs. It's going to create 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:09.220 so much economical hardship as opposed to that's 00:05:09.220 --> 00:05:12.279 the pessimistic approach as opposed to the positive 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.769 approach. that's what i want that's the message 00:05:14.769 --> 00:05:17.629 i want to get out there because think back to 00:05:17.629 --> 00:05:22.490 history throughout history every time we create 00:05:22.490 --> 00:05:26.089 which is what we're again designed to do a new 00:05:26.089 --> 00:05:30.310 technology it always eliminates a job right we're 00:05:30.310 --> 00:05:33.050 going all the way back to the wheel you know 00:05:33.050 --> 00:05:36.470 the wheel was invented people lost jobs now they 00:05:36.470 --> 00:05:38.449 might have been getting paid in rocks back then 00:05:38.449 --> 00:05:44.220 i don't know but regardless regardless The people 00:05:44.220 --> 00:05:47.579 will always have the argument of, OK, well, technology 00:05:47.579 --> 00:05:51.379 makes us lazy. It takes away from what it means 00:05:51.379 --> 00:05:54.740 to be human. My argument is always and we can 00:05:54.740 --> 00:05:58.279 go over and over. It'll be a lot more of a detailed, 00:05:58.480 --> 00:06:00.959 extensive conversation than the time allotted 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.459 for this conversation today. But my argument 00:06:03.459 --> 00:06:08.029 will always remain technology. We're designed 00:06:08.029 --> 00:06:10.610 to advance. We're designed to explore. We're 00:06:10.610 --> 00:06:14.470 designed to create. That is what we're very proficient 00:06:14.470 --> 00:06:17.410 at as humans. Some more than others, but that's 00:06:17.410 --> 00:06:21.009 just based on how you utilize it and your personal 00:06:21.009 --> 00:06:24.550 drive. But technology is not going to inhibit 00:06:24.550 --> 00:06:28.230 what makes us humans. It's going to advance it. 00:06:29.069 --> 00:06:33.529 And as you were speaking, I was thinking of a 00:06:33.529 --> 00:06:36.980 lot of things that... We tend to think is that 00:06:36.980 --> 00:06:39.759 it's going to take over. And as you mentioned, 00:06:39.920 --> 00:06:42.899 I believe it will allow us to do more of what 00:06:42.899 --> 00:06:46.439 we we like to do. Right. I think that that would 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:49.319 decrease it as I'm thinking, like my mind is 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:51.259 going out. I think it would decrease a lot of 00:06:51.259 --> 00:06:53.819 stress from us. You know, that daily grind of, 00:06:53.920 --> 00:06:56.779 as you mentioned, being on an assembly line and. 00:06:58.120 --> 00:07:01.240 repetitive things that are happening i also believe 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:03.439 it to give us time back with our family right 00:07:03.439 --> 00:07:09.800 i wonder did we are we fearful because it now 00:07:09.800 --> 00:07:12.500 makes us have to focus on the real true things 00:07:12.500 --> 00:07:16.279 about life right i in my opinion i would go to 00:07:16.279 --> 00:07:19.639 work and be like yes I left the kids. I left 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:21.279 the family. I don't have to be at the house. 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:24.259 Like it was literally getaway. Right. For eight, 00:07:24.360 --> 00:07:27.379 nine, 10 hours. And now that we have something 00:07:27.379 --> 00:07:30.199 that's about to allow us to have more time with 00:07:30.199 --> 00:07:33.220 the things that's important to us. I wonder, 00:07:33.240 --> 00:07:35.519 is that truly like the fear of like, what do 00:07:35.519 --> 00:07:39.199 we do now? That's the contributing factor. But 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:41.639 what you the last statement, the last part of 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:43.279 that statement, the what do we do now? That is 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.740 really, I believe. one of the biggest pieces 00:07:46.740 --> 00:07:49.699 that drives the fear in us because everyone hates 00:07:49.699 --> 00:07:52.160 and we shy away from uncertainty. And that goes 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:55.139 all the way back to the fight or flight response 00:07:55.139 --> 00:07:58.740 that's kept us alive, right? And that will always 00:07:58.740 --> 00:08:01.680 stay with us to some extent, obviously varying 00:08:01.680 --> 00:08:03.680 degrees of that. You're going to feel a lot more 00:08:03.680 --> 00:08:07.329 secure if you have a happy steady home a steady 00:08:07.329 --> 00:08:10.350 job blah blah blah that's that is going to give 00:08:10.350 --> 00:08:13.490 you a sense of security but regardless of your 00:08:13.490 --> 00:08:15.410 sense of security and some have it more than 00:08:15.410 --> 00:08:20.110 others there's always going to be the fear of 00:08:20.110 --> 00:08:24.910 change because change is the definition of uncertainty 00:08:24.910 --> 00:08:29.389 and then the what do i do now question is a relevant 00:08:29.389 --> 00:08:32.470 question that people will need to figure out 00:08:32.789 --> 00:08:36.350 But there's never, it doesn't matter if you are 00:08:36.350 --> 00:08:40.190 president of the United States, people never 00:08:40.190 --> 00:08:44.769 know what is coming in the future. Change is 00:08:44.769 --> 00:08:47.429 inevitable. A bomb could be dropped tomorrow 00:08:47.429 --> 00:08:49.970 that will change everything. And then the question 00:08:49.970 --> 00:08:54.450 is always, what do we do now? So humans are designed 00:08:54.450 --> 00:08:57.690 to adapt, we're designed to change, and we will 00:08:57.690 --> 00:09:02.480 continue to adapt. whether you work at morgan 00:09:02.480 --> 00:09:05.220 stanley and have a good job you could lose that 00:09:05.220 --> 00:09:07.639 job there could be mass layoffs tomorrow right 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:10.820 what do i do now you fall back on what skill 00:09:10.820 --> 00:09:13.159 do i have what skill can i learn and never before 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.419 in human history have we had the accessibility 00:09:16.419 --> 00:09:22.399 to a plethora of skill learning technologies 00:09:22.399 --> 00:09:27.019 that we do today so You can use that thing in 00:09:27.019 --> 00:09:31.860 your skull with 86 billion neurons and trillions 00:09:31.860 --> 00:09:36.000 of synaptic connections between them to leverage 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:38.740 that, leverage the existing technology that we 00:09:38.740 --> 00:09:41.840 have, learn a new skill that is now valuable 00:09:41.840 --> 00:09:45.820 because your job was rendered obsolete. It's 00:09:45.820 --> 00:09:48.919 hard to get people out away from fear because 00:09:48.919 --> 00:09:52.120 again, we're designed to be fearful of change. 00:09:52.179 --> 00:09:56.679 We like. consistency we like security so just 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.159 uh the message i want to get out there is no 00:09:59.159 --> 00:10:01.399 understand and realize that change is coming 00:10:01.399 --> 00:10:04.460 and it's coming fast But don't be afraid of it. 00:10:04.500 --> 00:10:08.679 Lean into it and adapt and say, how can I use 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:11.500 the powerful technology that's encapsulated in 00:10:11.500 --> 00:10:14.120 my skull to adapt to this change and become a 00:10:14.120 --> 00:10:17.120 better version of myself leveraging these new 00:10:17.120 --> 00:10:19.779 technologies? Steven, you talk about this with 00:10:19.779 --> 00:10:22.679 so much passion and I have so many questions, 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:26.159 but I also want to know, what's your why? What's 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:29.620 the story behind why you're moving into this 00:10:29.620 --> 00:10:33.120 direction? Sure. So I didn't necessarily have 00:10:33.120 --> 00:10:35.759 a why when I first initially got started. I can't 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:38.799 really pinpoint a specific catalyst to what prompted 00:10:38.799 --> 00:10:42.399 my initial move and journey into entrepreneurship. 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:45.700 I just knew that I always wanted more. I believe 00:10:45.700 --> 00:10:50.840 that that was always intrinsic. Where that originates 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:52.740 from, that's going to be a couch conversation 00:10:52.740 --> 00:10:58.240 at some point in my future, I'm sure. I've taken 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.000 a lot of time to reflect and trying to ascertain 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:05.240 where that was derived from. Ultimately, it comes 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:09.340 down to my current belief and understanding is 00:11:09.340 --> 00:11:13.299 I have an innate desire to create, to do more. 00:11:13.759 --> 00:11:17.179 I also have an affinity for complexity, which 00:11:17.179 --> 00:11:20.840 is why I was drawn to biology and the human brain, 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:25.269 things that are really fascinating to me. are 00:11:25.269 --> 00:11:28.330 so complex and we're just now getting to an understanding 00:11:28.330 --> 00:11:31.470 of it, a basic understanding of it, not even 00:11:31.470 --> 00:11:37.769 comprehensive. So I was at one stage in my life, 00:11:37.870 --> 00:11:44.330 I was at a pivotal moment where I had two paths, 00:11:44.590 --> 00:11:46.870 two forks in the road. I could go continue down 00:11:46.870 --> 00:11:51.110 the entrepreneurship, which is risky. right you're 00:11:51.110 --> 00:11:53.570 betting on yourself you could lose it all you 00:11:53.570 --> 00:11:56.389 could end up with nothing or i could go to school 00:11:56.389 --> 00:11:58.909 for 14 plus years and become a neurosurgeon which 00:11:58.909 --> 00:12:02.830 i know that i would have excelled at but i chose 00:12:02.830 --> 00:12:06.230 the riskier option for the the sole reason that 00:12:06.230 --> 00:12:11.090 i didn't want my entire path in life to be laid 00:12:11.090 --> 00:12:15.110 out to where it was predefined essentially obviously 00:12:15.110 --> 00:12:20.559 with some variability based on choices I felt 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:23.759 that I could make more of an impact and do more, 00:12:23.899 --> 00:12:29.940 create more and really help advance human civilization 00:12:29.940 --> 00:12:34.340 through entrepreneurship. And now I am. fortunate 00:12:34.340 --> 00:12:37.220 to be in the stage of life where I can marry 00:12:37.220 --> 00:12:40.039 my two passions. So now I get from an entrepreneurial 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.519 approach, I get to invest in innovative technologies 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:49.519 and be a part of biological processes and advancements 00:12:49.519 --> 00:12:52.740 and genetics, gene editing tools, things like 00:12:52.740 --> 00:12:57.139 this. That really is where what fuels my passion 00:12:57.139 --> 00:13:01.940 is seeing and being a part of propelling. humanity 00:13:01.940 --> 00:13:07.139 into a prosperous future. I love that. And it's 00:13:07.139 --> 00:13:10.159 very, I think it's very thought out. Like you 00:13:10.159 --> 00:13:13.580 just have these words about you that I just love 00:13:13.580 --> 00:13:17.620 how they just flow. And interesting enough, with 00:13:17.620 --> 00:13:22.419 all of that, now what? What's next? So as you 00:13:22.419 --> 00:13:25.580 move towards this, what's next? Well, what's 00:13:25.580 --> 00:13:29.950 next is I'm fascinated by the four things that 00:13:29.950 --> 00:13:32.149 I mentioned. Obviously, my vision for the world. 00:13:32.190 --> 00:13:34.529 Those are really what I focus on. There's so 00:13:34.529 --> 00:13:36.850 many different verticals that are making incredible 00:13:36.850 --> 00:13:39.490 advancements, energy and things like that, that 00:13:39.490 --> 00:13:43.009 I do monitor, but aren't really something that 00:13:43.009 --> 00:13:46.070 I spend a vast amount of time in because I try 00:13:46.070 --> 00:13:51.529 to triangulate what is going to make the biggest 00:13:51.529 --> 00:13:57.090 impact, the fastest for our civilization. i believe 00:13:57.090 --> 00:14:00.950 that the one that i'm most focused on is genetics 00:14:00.950 --> 00:14:07.610 um really realizing how to reverse aging how 00:14:07.610 --> 00:14:12.289 to put the potential of human immortality and 00:14:12.289 --> 00:14:14.250 what that looks like from biological processes 00:14:14.250 --> 00:14:16.789 and reversing aging and we're making leaps and 00:14:16.789 --> 00:14:19.049 bounds in that field it's incredible what we've 00:14:19.049 --> 00:14:23.000 done in just a few short Just in the last five, 00:14:23.220 --> 00:14:25.980 there's been amazing results and billions of 00:14:25.980 --> 00:14:29.399 dollars being pumped into various research projects. 00:14:30.059 --> 00:14:34.320 You have Altos Labs that came out with an amazing 00:14:34.320 --> 00:14:37.460 study. They've reversed aging, cellular aging 00:14:37.460 --> 00:14:41.059 in primates. That was back in 2023, literally 00:14:41.059 --> 00:14:44.440 a year and a half, two years ago. 2020, you have 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:47.700 David Sinclair out of Harvard that did it in 00:14:47.700 --> 00:14:51.909 mice and restored. age -related blindness in 00:14:51.909 --> 00:14:58.490 mice and was able to reverse through ips induced 00:14:58.490 --> 00:15:02.529 pluripotent stem cells was able to literally 00:15:02.529 --> 00:15:04.750 turn back the clock and it's incredible what 00:15:04.750 --> 00:15:07.250 we're doing we can do it with human cells in 00:15:07.250 --> 00:15:09.470 a petri dish but we're still a long way away 00:15:09.470 --> 00:15:12.389 from clinical trials on humans we obviously have 00:15:12.389 --> 00:15:15.169 to make sure that the regulatory restrictions 00:15:15.169 --> 00:15:17.929 that are uh you know we abide by the fda and 00:15:17.929 --> 00:15:20.210 all of the other regulatory agencies to make 00:15:20.210 --> 00:15:23.629 sure that we're rolling it out safely um and 00:15:23.629 --> 00:15:27.070 the human body again is just so complex it's 00:15:27.070 --> 00:15:30.509 you're talking about 33 trillion cells uh one 00:15:30.509 --> 00:15:33.190 to two percent of that are being replaced every 00:15:33.190 --> 00:15:38.100 single day in your body and then each cell Each 00:15:38.100 --> 00:15:40.580 one of those trillions of cells, right? When 00:15:40.580 --> 00:15:43.600 you start really looking at it from a nanoscale, 00:15:43.620 --> 00:15:47.740 you're talking about thousands of mitochondria. 00:15:47.740 --> 00:15:51.860 You're talking about millions of molecular machinery 00:15:51.860 --> 00:15:54.820 and chemical reactions that are happening by 00:15:54.820 --> 00:15:58.340 the millisecond within that cell. So really understanding 00:15:58.340 --> 00:16:02.580 how to go about this safely and effectively. 00:16:02.639 --> 00:16:07.259 And it's just incredible. the advancements that 00:16:07.259 --> 00:16:09.279 we're seeing in such a short time that's why 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:12.440 i think that we're going to the statement i made 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:16.559 earlier about eradicating afflictions like neurodegenerative 00:16:16.559 --> 00:16:19.580 diseases cancers we're very very close to doing 00:16:19.580 --> 00:16:26.700 that and i think we're going to see in Incredible 00:16:26.700 --> 00:16:29.320 things happen just within the next five years 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:31.299 and 10 years. Thank you for being here today. 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:33.240 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:35.879 Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your 00:16:35.879 --> 00:16:38.679 reactions as these episodes continue to move 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:40.639 forward. This is going to get more and more fun. 00:16:40.639 --> 00:16:42.519 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 00:16:42.539 --> 00:16:44.460 We'll invite people to participate in the show. 00:16:44.580 --> 00:16:46.620 And thank you for giving us your time and attention. 00:16:46.919 --> 00:16:49.559 Have an excellent time building out your vision 00:16:49.559 --> 00:16:50.940 and becoming a vision pro yourself.