Please share with me your first, last name and
where you're located. Excellent. Stephen Zeller.
Thanks for having me on, by the way. I'm located
primarily in Florida. I do bounce around a lot,
however. So go ahead, Stephen, and guide me.
I know that you're fast in technology and future.
And so please share with me. Sure, absolutely.
So I am a international entrepreneur, started
at the age of 18 and went through a very fun
rollercoaster ride of entrepreneurship, lots
of successes, lots of failures, as is the case
in most people's stories. But I'm luckily now
able to focus on my passion, which is innovative
technology and advancing human civilization into
a prosperous future. pro -tech vision for where
we could take this world if we choose to. And
it's so funny because I got chills. You know,
when you say technology, pro -tech, you know,
in the future, if we choose to, please tell me
more about the if we choose to. Sure, absolutely.
So obviously technology can be used for good.
It can be used for evil, obviously, in the hands
of now. uh or ill -willed people it can actually
do a lot of harm for the world but that same
technology when leveraged correctly can take
us into a incredible harmonious symbiotic future
and that's what i think that we are i believe
that goodwill Ultimately, when there's a lot
of people, especially if you watch mainstream
media, that will disagree with that and like
to sell fear. I am not one of those people because
I actually think the implications of what we're
developing right now across multiple variables
that maybe we can discuss briefly here momentarily
is absolutely something that is going to be beneficial
to humankind as opposed to detrimental. OK, let's
go with the beneficial. Definitely. I'm looking
forward to hearing about that. Excellent. So
my vision for the future is a world in which
we conquer the inevitability of biological aging
and death. We expand our footprint and become
an interplanetary or multi -planetary species.
And we expand our footprint out of our original
confined environment, which is Earth, obviously.
We live in symbiotic harmony. with AI and robotics
instead of the doomsday sayers of, oh, they're
going to take all of our jobs and Terminator
style be the end of humanity as we know it. And
then lastly, I see a world rapidly approaching
in which we eradicate poverty and afflictions
like neurodegenerative disease and cancer. Yeah.
And you know, interesting enough is for me, and
I'm wondering for a listener, is this something
we don't get an opportunity to talk about, right?
So of course, AI is all over the place and that's
usually meant to enhance businesses and things
as such. As you talk about it, how do you envision
us as humans and AI co -involving without losing
what makes us humans? Right, absolutely. It will
enhance what makes us human. Humans have always
been designed. for adaptation and growth so technology
has only ever enhanced our capabilities so humans
our biological brains are absolutely the most
efficient piece of technology in existence that
we know of um and it's incredible what we can
do the processing power and it's actually crazy
when you think about the fact that we're still
um under utilizing our capabilities so the ingenuity
that every single human possess should is designed
for higher level thinking so mundane tasks should
be optimized it should be taken over by technology
technological improvements should continuously
raise the bar it should eliminate lower level
thinking jobs and tasks and it should give humans
the ability to do what we are designed for um
to be completely honest just this might be somewhat
controversial and a lot of people might hate
hearing this but i believe it's such a waste
of human potential and ingenuity to see somebody
on an assembly line doing a repetitive task over
and over again when They are selling themselves
so short and don't even realize what they have
access to, the power of their human cognitive
capabilities. So tech to live in symbiotic harmony
with tech, you have to eradicate the fear of
it's going to displace jobs. It's going to create
so much economical hardship as opposed to that's
the pessimistic approach as opposed to the positive
approach. that's what i want that's the message
i want to get out there because think back to
history throughout history every time we create
which is what we're again designed to do a new
technology it always eliminates a job right we're
going all the way back to the wheel you know
the wheel was invented people lost jobs now they
might have been getting paid in rocks back then
i don't know but regardless regardless The people
will always have the argument of, OK, well, technology
makes us lazy. It takes away from what it means
to be human. My argument is always and we can
go over and over. It'll be a lot more of a detailed,
extensive conversation than the time allotted
for this conversation today. But my argument
will always remain technology. We're designed
to advance. We're designed to explore. We're
designed to create. That is what we're very proficient
at as humans. Some more than others, but that's
just based on how you utilize it and your personal
drive. But technology is not going to inhibit
what makes us humans. It's going to advance it.
And as you were speaking, I was thinking of a
lot of things that... We tend to think is that
it's going to take over. And as you mentioned,
I believe it will allow us to do more of what
we we like to do. Right. I think that that would
decrease it as I'm thinking, like my mind is
going out. I think it would decrease a lot of
stress from us. You know, that daily grind of,
as you mentioned, being on an assembly line and.
repetitive things that are happening i also believe
it to give us time back with our family right
i wonder did we are we fearful because it now
makes us have to focus on the real true things
about life right i in my opinion i would go to
work and be like yes I left the kids. I left
the family. I don't have to be at the house.
Like it was literally getaway. Right. For eight,
nine, 10 hours. And now that we have something
that's about to allow us to have more time with
the things that's important to us. I wonder,
is that truly like the fear of like, what do
we do now? That's the contributing factor. But
what you the last statement, the last part of
that statement, the what do we do now? That is
really, I believe. one of the biggest pieces
that drives the fear in us because everyone hates
and we shy away from uncertainty. And that goes
all the way back to the fight or flight response
that's kept us alive, right? And that will always
stay with us to some extent, obviously varying
degrees of that. You're going to feel a lot more
secure if you have a happy steady home a steady
job blah blah blah that's that is going to give
you a sense of security but regardless of your
sense of security and some have it more than
others there's always going to be the fear of
change because change is the definition of uncertainty
and then the what do i do now question is a relevant
question that people will need to figure out
But there's never, it doesn't matter if you are
president of the United States, people never
know what is coming in the future. Change is
inevitable. A bomb could be dropped tomorrow
that will change everything. And then the question
is always, what do we do now? So humans are designed
to adapt, we're designed to change, and we will
continue to adapt. whether you work at morgan
stanley and have a good job you could lose that
job there could be mass layoffs tomorrow right
what do i do now you fall back on what skill
do i have what skill can i learn and never before
in human history have we had the accessibility
to a plethora of skill learning technologies
that we do today so You can use that thing in
your skull with 86 billion neurons and trillions
of synaptic connections between them to leverage
that, leverage the existing technology that we
have, learn a new skill that is now valuable
because your job was rendered obsolete. It's
hard to get people out away from fear because
again, we're designed to be fearful of change.
We like. consistency we like security so just
uh the message i want to get out there is no
understand and realize that change is coming
and it's coming fast But don't be afraid of it.
Lean into it and adapt and say, how can I use
the powerful technology that's encapsulated in
my skull to adapt to this change and become a
better version of myself leveraging these new
technologies? Steven, you talk about this with
so much passion and I have so many questions,
but I also want to know, what's your why? What's
the story behind why you're moving into this
direction? Sure. So I didn't necessarily have
a why when I first initially got started. I can't
really pinpoint a specific catalyst to what prompted
my initial move and journey into entrepreneurship.
I just knew that I always wanted more. I believe
that that was always intrinsic. Where that originates
from, that's going to be a couch conversation
at some point in my future, I'm sure. I've taken
a lot of time to reflect and trying to ascertain
where that was derived from. Ultimately, it comes
down to my current belief and understanding is
I have an innate desire to create, to do more.
I also have an affinity for complexity, which
is why I was drawn to biology and the human brain,
things that are really fascinating to me. are
so complex and we're just now getting to an understanding
of it, a basic understanding of it, not even
comprehensive. So I was at one stage in my life,
I was at a pivotal moment where I had two paths,
two forks in the road. I could go continue down
the entrepreneurship, which is risky. right you're
betting on yourself you could lose it all you
could end up with nothing or i could go to school
for 14 plus years and become a neurosurgeon which
i know that i would have excelled at but i chose
the riskier option for the the sole reason that
i didn't want my entire path in life to be laid
out to where it was predefined essentially obviously
with some variability based on choices I felt
that I could make more of an impact and do more,
create more and really help advance human civilization
through entrepreneurship. And now I am. fortunate
to be in the stage of life where I can marry
my two passions. So now I get from an entrepreneurial
approach, I get to invest in innovative technologies
and be a part of biological processes and advancements
and genetics, gene editing tools, things like
this. That really is where what fuels my passion
is seeing and being a part of propelling. humanity
into a prosperous future. I love that. And it's
very, I think it's very thought out. Like you
just have these words about you that I just love
how they just flow. And interesting enough, with
all of that, now what? What's next? So as you
move towards this, what's next? Well, what's
next is I'm fascinated by the four things that
I mentioned. Obviously, my vision for the world.
Those are really what I focus on. There's so
many different verticals that are making incredible
advancements, energy and things like that, that
I do monitor, but aren't really something that
I spend a vast amount of time in because I try
to triangulate what is going to make the biggest
impact, the fastest for our civilization. i believe
that the one that i'm most focused on is genetics
um really realizing how to reverse aging how
to put the potential of human immortality and
what that looks like from biological processes
and reversing aging and we're making leaps and
bounds in that field it's incredible what we've
done in just a few short Just in the last five,
there's been amazing results and billions of
dollars being pumped into various research projects.
You have Altos Labs that came out with an amazing
study. They've reversed aging, cellular aging
in primates. That was back in 2023, literally
a year and a half, two years ago. 2020, you have
David Sinclair out of Harvard that did it in
mice and restored. age -related blindness in
mice and was able to reverse through ips induced
pluripotent stem cells was able to literally
turn back the clock and it's incredible what
we're doing we can do it with human cells in
a petri dish but we're still a long way away
from clinical trials on humans we obviously have
to make sure that the regulatory restrictions
that are uh you know we abide by the fda and
all of the other regulatory agencies to make
sure that we're rolling it out safely um and
the human body again is just so complex it's
you're talking about 33 trillion cells uh one
to two percent of that are being replaced every
single day in your body and then each cell Each
one of those trillions of cells, right? When
you start really looking at it from a nanoscale,
you're talking about thousands of mitochondria.
You're talking about millions of molecular machinery
and chemical reactions that are happening by
the millisecond within that cell. So really understanding
how to go about this safely and effectively.
And it's just incredible. the advancements that
we're seeing in such a short time that's why
i think that we're going to the statement i made
earlier about eradicating afflictions like neurodegenerative
diseases cancers we're very very close to doing
that and i think we're going to see in Incredible
things happen just within the next five years
and 10 years. Thank you for being here today.
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