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What is the story behind your why that you'd

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like to share with the audience? I think that

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there's different layers, but I think ultimately

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at the end of it, I think what I think is really

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important is when we have a good relationship

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with money, we're able to teach that to our children.

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And ultimately, you know, money is just a reflection

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of ourselves. And so when we have a good relationship,

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air quotes, right? Good. relationship with money,

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then that also reflects how we are with ourselves.

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And I think that when we, at least for me and

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what I've noticed in myself and clients with

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women, is that when we have transformed our relationship

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with money, we literally are able to stop some

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of that generational experiences that we have

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incurred from the past. And we're able to change

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the trajectory of our children's future by how

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we live and be with money. For sure. Wow. Tell

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me more about that. I mean, I think that if you're

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not aware of your relationship with money, you

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act on autopilot. So you might be saying things

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to your children that your parents told you or

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your grandparents told your parents. And so you

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just, you reenact the same story that probably

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you grew up with. But when you are aware that

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you can have a different relationship with money,

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that you, that your children can have a different

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relationship and a more, when I say different,

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what I mean is empowered relationship with money.

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Then you empower your children as well. Let's

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talk both sides. What do you mean by an empowered

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relationship and what's the other side of that

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equation? Well, the other side is disempowered.

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So lots of I can't, we can't, it's not possible.

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Almost kind of using money is the reason why

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you can't do something. And when you have an

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empowered relationship with money, it's the same

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that you are with yourself, right? There's a

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way to have what you want, to generate what you

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want. You know, I grew up with a family that

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said we can't afford that versus now I tell my

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child like that is not something that is in alignment

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with me and dad's values. And so we're choosing

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not to spend money on that. It's not because

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we can't afford it. It's because we choose not

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to pay for that. If you want to spend your money

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on that, that's totally OK. But that's not something

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we want to spend our money on, which gives the

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child the opportunity to really think about like.

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do I want that? Do I want to go get it for myself?

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And how do I want to, I mean, obviously she's

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12. I wouldn't, you know, when she's five, that

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was a different story, but just, I think being

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able to tell your children that you have a certain

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set of values and sometimes what they want may

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not be with what you want. And instead of saying,

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oh, we can't afford it. Or a lot of times, no

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matter how much money you have, that's too expensive.

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But really what you mean is that by that is.

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the amount of money that they're requesting isn't

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what you find value. You don't, you know, the

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value and the money does not match. And so using

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different language so that you can teach your

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children, you know, something isn't expensive.

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It's just, you don't find value in it or it's

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yeah. Overpriced for the amount that you actually

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want to pay. It's not expensive. It feels like

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it's out of my range. I can't have that versus

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I'm choosing not to buy this because X, Y, Z.

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Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. You know, have

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you seen the Captain America, the first one?

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Yes. So in the in it, there's a I think there's

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a part in the movie where. So Steve Rogers, before

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he takes the serum and they're looking for someone

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to find, find someone who can take the serum,

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looking for qualities of, hey, we need these

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qualities. And they they went and go ahead on.

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choose steve rogers to do so and steve rogers

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is this tiny dude like i think five two five

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three and um everyone thinks like why did you

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choose this guy all right why did you choose

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this guy so the i think the the general he takes

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a fake grenade and people are just standing in

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the middle there's like a lot of a lot of soldiers

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he takes a fake grenade and he throws it everyone

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goes away But Steve Rogers, he jumps on the grenade.

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Get away. I'm going to cover myself. So he was

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willing to sacrifice himself. And that's what

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the general showed. The serum enhances every

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quality that you have. It could be what good

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you want to do in the world. It could be how

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bad you want to do in the world. It enhances

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your muscles. It enhances your brain. I think

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it enhances every quality that you have. I think

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that's one of the reasons they chose Steve Rogers.

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And that's how I kind of look at money from what

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experience I've had. I think money as a tool

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doesn't change who you are. I think what it does

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is it just takes whatever you have and just makes

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it bigger and expansive in what you are. So if

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greed is something, it's in your heart, right?

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And it's something that you practice and that

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you in a way are. I think money will take that

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and make it to a bigger level. And same with

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if you're passionate about charity, if you're

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passionate about helping people, I think it will

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do the same thing where you're able to help more

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people now. You're able to give more now. You're

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able to inspire more now. So that's how I kind

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of interpret what you said today. Is that relatable

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or did I miss the mark completely? I think that's

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one piece of it, you know, because. And you looked

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at it more so as greed or good, and I'm air quoting

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for those of the listeners that are listening.

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But it's also if you are afraid, if you are fearful,

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the more money you have, you're going to be more

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fearful. And we think that the more money we

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have, the more at peace or confident we're going

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to feel. But that's not true. It's like what

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you said. It is an amplification. really being

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able, first and foremost, we have to do it for

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ourselves before we're able to do it for our

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children. And I think also, you know, I think

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that there's just something, you know, I think

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I said this the last time that there's something

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with the financial industry. We talk a lot about

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financial legacy, but I think one of the biggest

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legacies that we can, you know, impart to our

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children is that they are capable. of making

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and generating their own money. And I think,

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you know, in the financial industry, it's like,

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oh, we want to accumulate this money and we want

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to be able to give it to whoever, whomever upon

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our passing. But I think one of the biggest things

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that we can do is teach our children, you know,

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good financial literacy and that they're able

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to generate it themselves. And that that is something

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that comes from within. It's not something that

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we get outside of us. So I think that's the other

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part of it too. Yeah. What would you say that

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that has done for your family, the literacy,

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Erin? Well, my child is probably tired of me

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talking about money. We talked a lot about money

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growing up. Like my dad did educate me on money,

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but it was also from a very fear -based place,

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right? Of not having enough versus the way I

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look at it with my kid now is like, an abundant

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mentality and expansive or sufficient you know

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mentality um and so i think that the way that

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her relationship was with money at her age is

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vastly different than what it was at my like

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a 180 probably at at my age and so that's when

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i say you know we're like flipping the switch

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or we're just like the fork in the road we're

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able to to really create a different life for

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our children. Yes, they have free will and they

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grow up and they do their own thing, but they're

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not being indoctrinated with this fear scarcity

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mindset once we have worked through and continue

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to work through our relationship with money.

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Would you say this is a little challenge to you?

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Would you say that they're indoctrinated on the

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other side though? I don't think so. I don't

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think it's one or other. I think the brain wants

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to go one way or other. I think that there's

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definitely times when I feel it in my body when

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the scarcity shows up, but then my ability to

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catch it and to correct it is so much quicker

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than what it used to be. And then able to have

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those conversations with my... child about that.

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And to talk about money in a very neutral place,

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I think we want to look at like abundance versus

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like a lot of times we just have conversations

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around money. Like we have conversations around

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the weather. It's not charged like it was in

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my house. Wow. Thank you for sharing that. That's

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a, that's, that's a, I think definitely a lot

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of different ways to look at it. And, and I think

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the more, the more we're not able to react or

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act through, I would say, stimulus empowers us

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to make the right choices in our life. I think

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if I'm guessing this right, I think that's your

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ultimate goal for your kids is to make the right

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decision with all the knowledge in hand. Correct?

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Yes. And I don't think, you know, I was just

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talking to a client about this earlier today.

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I don't think the goal is to never not react

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because we're human, right? We have emotions.

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We have, I'm just going to go into the brain,

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you know, like we have all these neurochemicals,

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like that is just part of being a human on this

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planet. But the speed at which we can see what

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we are doing and how quickly we can go back to,

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let's just call it that state of neutrality and

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we can catch ourselves. I think that's the skill

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set that I want to teach. um my you know my child

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and other people because that once you know that

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skill set once you you know how to do that then

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whatever comes up you get to see it you get to

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see you are separate from it you aren't it's

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not who you are and then you get to get back

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to to baseline or or yeah i don't want to say

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normal but neutrality yeah so let's explore that

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i want to explore that skill set what can you

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share about about that skill set with us today

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Ask me that question a different way. Like, how

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do you get good at it? How do you realize that

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you're in it? What do you want to know? How do

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you recognize, first, there's a need for that

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skill set? And I would say second question is,

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once you recognize it, how do you improve or

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get better at using that skill set? Because we

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have already covered why you want to get better.

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as that skill set right so let's now let's get

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to how how you recognize it and how you improve

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on it i think first and foremost you are able

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to tell by how you feel in your body. And a lot

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of us are not connected to our bodies. I used

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to be this way where I act in a very mind -based

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approach, and it was almost like my body was

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separate from my mind. But how you feel on a

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consistent basis, when you look at your P &L,

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when you look at your assets, when you get an

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IRS letter in the mail, When your kid asks you,

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I want to buy X, Y, Z, whatever it is, when those

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money things come up, how do you feel in your

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body? And if it is not neutral and or expansive

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and it feels more contractive or it feels more

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sphere based or it feels scared or you feel shame

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or guilt, then that is where you get to start

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to explore. OK, there is something there for

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me to look at. So I would say that would be number

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one. And then how do you get good at this skill

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set? Awareness typically in the beginning happens

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after the fact, right? So you notice, let's just

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say that you look at your P &L and you have feelings

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around it because it's not what you think it

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should be, air quotes, should be. And you are

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aware of what emotions and feelings and thoughts

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that you are having based on those numbers, that

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math staring at you. Then what happens is sometimes

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you and you might have a reaction to it, right?

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That is that first awareness piece is that you

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catch things after the fact. Then the next step

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or awareness is you see it happening in real

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time, like noticing. Like the other day, I noticed

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something with our taxes and I was like, oh,

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I saw I felt the feelings coming up with inside

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me. And I'm like, I see what's happening here.

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And it's almost kind of like I was. watching

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what was happening within my body. And I was

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like, I saw that separation. I'm like, I'm going

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to feel this because clearly this is coming up

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to be expressed, to be transcended. And I'm going

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to feel this. And then I'm going to, you know,

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move through it. And then the other side is that

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you intentionally, right? And this doesn't happen

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100 % of the time. Like, I don't think we ever

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get to this place because I think that puts a

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lot of pressure on us. But what is your state

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of being? when it comes to yourself with money.

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And so is it 70, 80 % of the time that you are

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purposely going in with the intention of feeling,

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what are the, what are those feelings you want

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to feel? Peaceful, calm, confident, empowered,

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neutral. Like what are those feelings? And then

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practicing those on a daily basis. And then noticing

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when you go, you know, into those blips of scarcity

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or fear -based and then coming back out. But

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that. That kind of happens in a phase, I guess,

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you know, your awareness shifts as the more that

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you do it, the more that you become aware, the

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more that you are connected to yourself and your

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body. Let's talk with an example. So I understand

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that better. Can you share some of those examples

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that actually relate directly to it? So like

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I mentioned, like, let's just say that, you know,

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some people like there's. apparently like in

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the US, you know, we have the IRS. And so for

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some people, that's a very triggering thing for

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them. Like they have been taught, like you don't

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want to be audited. There's a lot of fear around

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that. So let's say that they were, they got a

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letter in the mail and maybe it was just inside

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the letter was, Hey, we noticed you changed your

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address. If this is not correct, let us know.

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But you see that letter from the Internal Revenue

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Service and then you feel those feelings, right?

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You think, oh my goodness, I don't want to open

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it up. I don't want to open the letter. Or you

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think, oh my goodness, what happened? Am I being

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audited? Or you think, you know, the thousand

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thoughts that you might think or feel and then

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recognizing if you were in the first stage of

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awareness, you may not even notice that that's

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what's happening, right? So you would open up

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the envelope and then you would be, you would

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read it and they would say, oh, they just are

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confirming that I changed my address. Then you

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could look back and be like, oh, look how I felt

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in my body when I saw that in the mailbox. So

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that's that late, you know, that's that first

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stage of awareness. If you're in the middle stage

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of awareness, you would be opening up the letter

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and you'd be like, I noticed what's happening

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in my body. I am feeling fear or I'm feeling

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maybe shame and I'm recognizing this and I'm,

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I'm, allowing this to pass through me and you

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know i do a lot of like hand on heart somatic

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work of like okay i see what's happening here

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this is an old story that's coming up that's

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you know wanting to be released and then if you

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were on the other side of you've practiced in

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your mind you've actually practiced receiving

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the irs statement and when you get it you feel

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nothing that is the other side of the awareness

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so this So someone gets an IRS statement and

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they think of the worst case scenario. Sometimes

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they do. Yeah. And worst case scenario. But this

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method helps them in case there is a worst case

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scenario. Right? Well, that's one piece. And

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maybe the IRS isn't the best statement. When

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you are practicing, who is the person that has

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a calm and neutral relationship with money? That's

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what you want to be practicing. So that comes

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with meditation and envisioning. Because the

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brain and the body, they don't know any different

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between actual what's happening between me and

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you right here or if I were to have rehearsed

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this interview 60 times. The body doesn't know

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any different. So you start rehearsing who is,

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and this is where it really gets down to who

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is the person that feels calm and trusts, you

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know, themselves with money. And that is empowered.

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And that is, and I would say even neutral with

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money. Like you're not super high when you have

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a lot of money and you're not, you know, swinging

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low when you don't. So really focusing on how

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do I want to be, who is the person that has a

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neutral. peaceful relationship with money. Thank

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you for being here today. I'm really happy that

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you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking

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forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes

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continue to move forward. This is going to get

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more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement

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as well. We'll invite people to participate in

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the show. And thank you for giving us your time

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and attention. Have an excellent time building

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out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.
