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Tell me about your vision. So my vision has a

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couple of pieces to it. Yes, I love it. Obviously,

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as a social worker, we're raised or trained in

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a sort of broader system approach. Yes. And despite

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the fact that obviously each person is important

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and you can do a lot of one on one work, that's

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amazing. it's harder to think on a macro scale.

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And yet you want to have the most impact that

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you can, right? And so for me, it's been a certain

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process right now of transitioning from running

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a business and doing a lot of individual work

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to expanding to a greater audience. And so that's

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one of the reasons I'm on the podcast. You know,

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I'm releasing a book, I'm speaking, I'm trying

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to reach a broader audience. And my audience

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in particular actually isn't teens. My audience

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is parents. Absolutely. Because that's really

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where the change is going to happen. And parents

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are very much uneducated and very much inexperienced.

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So for me, my vision is to bring that experience

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to the masses. An example, just like a small

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example, like you mentioned, when you talk about

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Palm Pilots and the Nokias, like parents aren't

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up to date. And as much as you try to get up

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to date, you're still years behind, right? If

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you talk about proxy servers today, parents still

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don't know what that is, but that's right from

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2010. And so now there's a dark web. There's

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a million things you have to catch up on, and

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you'll never catch up. But as much education

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as you can provide to parents as to how to go

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about it, I think is really where you can make

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much broader change than on an individual level.

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And so that's what my approach has been. That's

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my vision. I love that. And that was my next

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question. What's your goal for being on the podcast,

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on the show today? And I understand that. And

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I realize that we're now able to use this tool

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that we were forced to use in COVID as a tool

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to get on a macro scale. I truly, truly love

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the fact that you said, I'm not talking to the

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teens right now. See, so I don't have to have

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you in my office. I don't have to. Tell the teenager

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I'm going to bring your parents in. I could talk

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to you on a way bigger scale right now. I'm telling

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the world about this. And I get goosebumps because

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at the end of the day, I want our teenagers to

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accidentally turn on this podcast. I want them

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to accidentally run across Mindy Barron. You

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know, I want them to do those kinds of things

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because as they keep going and as they keep scrolling,

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I want them to accidentally begin to focus that

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there is a reason to live. There is a reason

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to survive. There is a reason why we go through

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the hard things in life. And that's because I

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know that that and I would call it something

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different. But there is often said what doesn't

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kill us makes us stronger. But with that being

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said, nothing really has to kill us, but everything

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should make us stronger. You know, so I go ahead.

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Go ahead. No, you're 100 percent right about

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that. And that's what our kids are lacking today

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when you talk about. you know making you stronger

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you have to have a goal like you said vision

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our kids don't have that vision um back in the

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day you're going to work somewhere you're an

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apprentice you in the military you work for family

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you worked whatever it was you weren't sitting

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around there wasn't social media and you kind

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of knew where you were headed even when you went

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to college you kind of knew where you were headed

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our kids are going to college with no idea what

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they want to do and they're coming back home

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and moving back in after wasting two three years

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and so if you don't have a goal if you don't

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have a passion if you don't have a focus i mean

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what is there right and so part of working with

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teens is help them find their passions something

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i tell parents like find what they like and drill

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in because you know if you like what you do you

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never work a day in your life right that's you

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really want to capture that so you're 100 correct

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so when with that being said because we are vision

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pros live and we're talking about vision i heard

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yours how or what question could a teen ask themselves

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to see if they even have a vision. So if somebody

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was a fly on the wall right now, a listener who

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was a teenager, that's like, I don't know if

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I want to go to college. I don't know what I

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want to do in life. I don't even know what vision

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means. What would you want them to hear to figure

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that out? The one thing that I always preach

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is don't fear failure. So you should be willing

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to try a number of things. A lot of kids' fear

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is like, if I embrace this and I'm not sure what

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it is, then that's it, right? If I go to college

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for veterinary medicine because I was intrigued

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and I don't like it, well, now I'm in trouble,

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right? But the idea is it's okay to try a bunch

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of different things. In fact, there's so much

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we don't know, right? You only know 10 jobs.

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You know there's like a million more jobs out

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there. that one or two of them may click with

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you or what you're doing now you don't think

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could be a career but here's how it could be

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a career right so so it's really that fear of

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like taking the next step because i might fail

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i might get stuck in it and there's embarrassment

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my parents will be upset if you don't fear failure

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and you focus forward then you can try something

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until it works if you fear failure you try it

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it doesn't work you're toast um and so that's

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really what it's about and the second thing is

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how do i find what i want to do well Google's

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a powerful tool. And there are hundreds, if not

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thousands of jobs out there that they have not

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seen. And Google it. Okay, cool. This job, I

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didn't know that existed. Maybe I can go visit

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and ask them some questions or intern here or

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check this out. There's just things that people

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don't know. Some really cool jobs that people

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have no idea about. So it's really about not

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fearing failure and being willing to try. I love

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that. I love that. And if you're listening. Do

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not feel failure. I tell you, Google that too.

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How many people that are successful that failed?

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How many times have they failed? Of course, I

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cannot tell you who it is, but I'm telling you

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that it'll come up like crazy. And then they

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would definitely really see like it takes failure

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to reach a level of success that you desire to.

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And so with being aware of your time and truly

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appreciating you being on here, I always have

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one favorite question. What are the greatest

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joys of what you do? Okay, so that's also, you

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have a lot of good questions. I mean, the joy

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of what I do is a couple pieces. One, obviously,

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like I mentioned, seeing the results. Two is

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seeing parents and that sense of relief when

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they have guidance, right? That sense of shame

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and guilt that they have coming in and then walking

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away empowered. It's really, really, it drives

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a lot of satisfaction. And third is the challenge.

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I mean, part of this for therapists, a lot of

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them get into it because they have their own

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issues to work through. And a lot of times they

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get too attached and they burn out. But if you're

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able to really be well trained and keep boundaries,

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it's a challenge. Navigate family pieces and

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make things work and come up with ideas and really

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strategize. That in and of itself is rewarding.

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um and really helps you keep a long career right

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if it's intellectually stimulating and if you

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know if it isn't rote and you're not just listening

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to people talk right if you're really doing work

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it is truly stimulating so those are kind of

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three of the joys of what i do Thank you for

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being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned

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in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to

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seeing your reactions as these episodes continue

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to move forward. This is going to get more and

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more fun. We'll have more and more engagement

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as well. We'll invite people to participate in

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the show and thank you for giving us your time

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and attention. Have an excellent time building

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out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.