WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.779 tell me about your vision my vision is a world 00:00:03.779 --> 00:00:07.000 where every person can afford a good night's 00:00:07.000 --> 00:00:12.060 sleep wow that's very simple i know i can i can 00:00:12.060 --> 00:00:15.320 uh benefit from a good night of sleep uh tell 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.980 me more about that okay well look sleep is the 00:00:20.980 --> 00:00:24.960 soil from which everything grows so in the special 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:28.000 forces we didn't know anything about sleep but 00:00:28.000 --> 00:00:30.260 we knew if we denied the enemy sleep for three 00:00:30.260 --> 00:00:32.619 nights it would mess them up better than a bullet 00:00:32.619 --> 00:00:39.600 okay so if you want to destroy somebody you destroy 00:00:39.600 --> 00:00:41.679 their sleep if you really care about somebody 00:00:41.679 --> 00:00:44.399 if you want to build them up you you care about 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:47.140 their sleep and and my vision harry is imagine 00:00:47.140 --> 00:00:50.520 imagine the governments of this world and a measure 00:00:50.520 --> 00:00:54.619 of their effectiveness is measured against the 00:00:54.619 --> 00:00:56.990 quality of the sleep of the people they govern 00:00:56.990 --> 00:01:00.789 just just get your head around that for a second 00:01:00.789 --> 00:01:05.909 because even if you're doing it from for money 00:01:05.909 --> 00:01:10.549 alone and this is what i tell employers if you've 00:01:10.549 --> 00:01:13.549 got a sleep poor employee they take double the 00:01:13.549 --> 00:01:17.250 amount of sick days there's absenteeism but then 00:01:17.250 --> 00:01:21.209 there's presenteeism if you're sleep poor you're 00:01:21.209 --> 00:01:25.980 30 40 less productive And here's the kicker, 00:01:25.980 --> 00:01:29.719 and this is where I started this work. So I came 00:01:29.719 --> 00:01:33.519 through PTSD post -service myself, and I started 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:36.140 working with veterans. And I noticed that if 00:01:36.140 --> 00:01:38.700 I improved their sleep, everything improved. 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:42.879 And it shows now that sleep -poor people have 00:01:42.879 --> 00:01:48.140 200 % to 300 % higher likelihood of mental illness. 00:01:50.569 --> 00:01:53.370 And that just blew my mind. Like the data is 00:01:53.370 --> 00:01:57.030 in, this is, this is a thing. So, so, so, so 00:01:57.030 --> 00:01:59.950 for something as simple as sleep, yes, it's a 00:01:59.950 --> 00:02:03.650 simple thing, but the impacts are, it's, it's 00:02:03.650 --> 00:02:08.689 everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, there's a lot 00:02:08.689 --> 00:02:10.689 of studies that I've also actually seen through 00:02:10.689 --> 00:02:16.050 where the gist was. You break your body throughout 00:02:16.050 --> 00:02:19.650 the day and sleep is when you recover your body 00:02:19.650 --> 00:02:24.210 and then you energize your body. If I go two 00:02:24.210 --> 00:02:27.590 days without sleeping properly, even one day, 00:02:27.689 --> 00:02:31.569 I can't. I'm just dead. I can't function. I don't 00:02:31.569 --> 00:02:35.229 have the right mental aptitude to do anything. 00:02:35.430 --> 00:02:38.810 I can't drive. I can't perform. I can't speak 00:02:38.810 --> 00:02:42.240 properly. You are not coherent. So I totally 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.460 agree with you. I think sleep is the basis of 00:02:44.460 --> 00:02:47.419 a lot of different things. There's a reason people 00:02:47.419 --> 00:02:49.479 who work night is called the graveyard shift. 00:02:49.620 --> 00:02:54.319 You're slowly dying. Yeah. Yeah. Again, a massive 00:02:54.319 --> 00:02:56.740 increase in preventable diseases, chronic injuries 00:02:56.740 --> 00:03:01.280 with people that are doing night shift because 00:03:01.280 --> 00:03:05.479 you've broken the natural circadian rhythm. And 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:10.340 I think 100 ,000. crashes a year in the states 00:03:10.340 --> 00:03:15.680 are related to uh feeling tired so you get you 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:17.500 might get breathalyzed for alcohol but no one's 00:03:17.500 --> 00:03:22.120 testing for sleep yeah okay so you know i think 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:25.120 they worked out for a person you know earning 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:30.340 uh 60 grand a year that a sleep poor person costs 00:03:30.340 --> 00:03:34.180 uh their employer and the economy between you 00:03:34.180 --> 00:03:36.000 know five and twelve thousand dollars a year 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:40.080 Because workplace accidents goes up, you know, 00:03:40.120 --> 00:03:43.699 chronic injuries go up, you know, as I mentioned 00:03:43.699 --> 00:03:47.219 before, twice as many sick days, underperforming. 00:03:47.740 --> 00:03:51.539 So if you take that in reverse, if you improve 00:03:51.539 --> 00:03:54.979 people's sleep, then everything improves. And 00:03:54.979 --> 00:03:58.939 it's easier said than done. But my background 00:03:58.939 --> 00:04:00.979 being in the veteran space, the good thing about 00:04:00.979 --> 00:04:04.800 that was if something didn't work. They would 00:04:04.800 --> 00:04:07.159 let you know straight away in no uncertain terms, 00:04:07.199 --> 00:04:10.319 in very clear language. All right. So having 00:04:10.319 --> 00:04:15.400 cracked the sleep code in that space, it's those 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:18.100 tools that I'm now bringing into the world and 00:04:18.100 --> 00:04:22.139 making accessible to people. And that's the thing. 00:04:22.180 --> 00:04:26.860 A lot of people talk about sleep, Harry, but 00:04:26.860 --> 00:04:30.740 people who are tired or already doing enough, 00:04:30.779 --> 00:04:32.959 they want to say, look, here's what I want. Take 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:35.540 care of it for me. They can't. It's really hard 00:04:35.540 --> 00:04:37.899 to do more. And especially as you go into sleep, 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:41.139 you're sort of in this sort of autopilot. So 00:04:41.139 --> 00:04:45.019 people really need to know it's not the amount 00:04:45.019 --> 00:04:47.100 of resources that you pour in. It's how they're 00:04:47.100 --> 00:04:50.000 applied. How can you meet people where they are? 00:04:50.220 --> 00:04:52.160 Because these people are tired. They can't take 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:53.800 it anymore. You can give them a thousand hacks, 00:04:53.899 --> 00:04:55.560 but they're not going to do it. You literally 00:04:55.560 --> 00:04:59.420 need to meet them where they are. And if you're 00:04:59.420 --> 00:05:02.029 doing it right and they're sleeping better. It'll 00:05:02.029 --> 00:05:04.329 be a case of, oh, that felt good. I'll have more, 00:05:04.389 --> 00:05:08.329 please. Oh, that felt good. I'll have more. Wow. 00:05:09.430 --> 00:05:11.810 That's awesome. I think you're right. One of 00:05:11.810 --> 00:05:14.870 the main issues is the psychological issue when 00:05:14.870 --> 00:05:17.269 it comes to people changing any habit, let alone 00:05:17.269 --> 00:05:23.509 an act that they do, is because psychologically 00:05:23.509 --> 00:05:26.410 they're not fixing what's causing all those things 00:05:26.410 --> 00:05:31.290 to go on autopilot. What would you say, Tim? 00:05:31.470 --> 00:05:35.930 Like, why did you start into all this and specifically 00:05:35.930 --> 00:05:40.069 sleep? Why did you choose sleep? And why did 00:05:40.069 --> 00:05:42.629 you go on this path? And how did all this started? 00:05:42.689 --> 00:05:46.170 I'm very curious to know about this. Well, Harry, 00:05:46.350 --> 00:05:50.670 it's not something I ever pictured myself doing. 00:05:51.910 --> 00:05:54.350 But I'm dyslexic. I see things in patterns. And 00:05:54.350 --> 00:05:56.689 if something is working, I don't have to understand. 00:05:56.850 --> 00:06:01.879 I'm like, let's do more of that. I had this goal 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:05.759 of saving 40 veteran lives from suicide because 00:06:05.759 --> 00:06:09.120 that's how many lives we'd lost in Afghanistan 00:06:09.120 --> 00:06:12.459 to bombs and bullets. But we'd lost 30 to 40 00:06:12.459 --> 00:06:14.680 times that amount to suicide. So I'm like, I 00:06:14.680 --> 00:06:19.839 will die happy if I can attain 40 veteran lives 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.660 saved. But that happened within a year because 00:06:22.660 --> 00:06:24.939 the programs I set up, one of the effectiveness 00:06:24.939 --> 00:06:27.139 measurements was how much it improved sleep. 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:30.439 And I just I'm not a sleep guy, but I'm like, 00:06:30.500 --> 00:06:36.740 this is working. I can't. It just is right. And 00:06:36.740 --> 00:06:38.399 then, you know, all the data comes out about 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:41.540 how it's two to three hundred percent worse when 00:06:41.540 --> 00:06:43.019 you're not sleeping. Well, it's two to three 00:06:43.019 --> 00:06:48.339 at least better when you are sleeping. So so 00:06:48.339 --> 00:06:54.410 once I discovered it and I discovered that. People 00:06:54.410 --> 00:06:56.589 talk about sleep, but there's not a lot of people 00:06:56.589 --> 00:06:59.129 activating it. So if you need to get into sleep 00:06:59.129 --> 00:07:02.769 mode, you need to understand about what's called 00:07:02.769 --> 00:07:05.149 the PNS, the parasympathetic nervous system. 00:07:05.589 --> 00:07:11.250 So when you're really work focused, getting the 00:07:11.250 --> 00:07:13.470 job done, you've got a vision of what you want, 00:07:13.529 --> 00:07:15.430 you're applying yourself, you're hitting the 00:07:15.430 --> 00:07:19.829 gas in the car, right? You're accelerating. That's 00:07:19.829 --> 00:07:23.560 your sympathetic nervous system. Power up. push 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:25.879 forward and our world tends to really encourage 00:07:25.879 --> 00:07:28.920 people to do that in fact they also encourage 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:31.920 poor sleeping habits look at that guy he's powering 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:36.180 on he's only had four hours sleep okay so what 00:07:36.180 --> 00:07:38.620 they certainly didn't teach us in the military 00:07:38.620 --> 00:07:42.560 and they don't have available to people um with 00:07:42.560 --> 00:07:45.699 any ease of accessibility is how to hit the break 00:07:45.699 --> 00:07:48.740 how to slow down how to not give a stuff about 00:07:48.740 --> 00:07:50.819 anything in your day and get back underneath 00:07:50.819 --> 00:07:53.959 your own skin Because what people don't know 00:07:53.959 --> 00:07:56.920 is often when you're driving hard and this is 00:07:56.920 --> 00:07:59.399 amplified when you're in fight or flight. If 00:07:59.399 --> 00:08:00.540 you're in fight or flight and you're looking 00:08:00.540 --> 00:08:02.899 for threat, you're so focused on the threat outside 00:08:02.899 --> 00:08:05.100 of you, Harry, that you've actually lost connection 00:08:05.100 --> 00:08:08.860 from your own body. You're connected out there, 00:08:08.920 --> 00:08:11.500 but you're disconnected here. So parasympathetic 00:08:11.500 --> 00:08:14.459 gets you back in your body and our bodies are 00:08:14.459 --> 00:08:16.720 wondrously made. Once you're actually connected 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:20.839 back into it. It can self -regulate. It can self 00:08:20.839 --> 00:08:23.920 -heal. It can self -regenerate. But if you're 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.439 always focused out there and you're never actually 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:30.839 connected to your own body, to me, that's a mental 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:32.759 health problem. It's actually a physical disconnect 00:08:32.759 --> 00:08:35.480 problem, if I'm being completely honest. It's 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:37.720 the disconnect from your own self. You don't 00:08:37.720 --> 00:08:40.980 see your own value. You don't know how to enhance 00:08:40.980 --> 00:08:43.139 it. You're just chasing the value that's outside 00:08:43.139 --> 00:08:52.889 of you. But seeing this, and I'm a guy that I 00:08:52.889 --> 00:08:55.029 made the mistake of telling a doctor, and I'm 00:08:55.029 --> 00:08:56.769 not the only one here. I told a doctor I couldn't 00:08:56.769 --> 00:08:59.129 sleep. I lost six years of my life to pills. 00:09:00.389 --> 00:09:03.509 And Harry, I'm not getting that time back. And 00:09:03.509 --> 00:09:06.269 so as God is my witness, I don't want anyone 00:09:06.269 --> 00:09:10.110 else to go into that space and not know there 00:09:10.110 --> 00:09:15.169 are other ways to access that deep state of reconnection. 00:09:19.340 --> 00:09:25.980 You're on point here. Most people, I don't think 00:09:25.980 --> 00:09:29.740 they realize that when they go to doctors, doctors, 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:33.399 in most cases, is there to treat your symptoms. 00:09:33.419 --> 00:09:37.139 It's not really to heal you or go for the cause 00:09:37.139 --> 00:09:40.679 that's causing you on whatever you're dealing 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:44.220 with. So choosing the right doctor for yourself 00:09:44.220 --> 00:09:48.669 and at the same time... Taking that to minimize 00:09:48.669 --> 00:09:52.570 your symptoms and focusing on healing your body 00:09:52.570 --> 00:09:55.529 at the same time. I think they go hand in hand 00:09:55.529 --> 00:09:58.529 and we do a lot of things here with insurances 00:09:58.529 --> 00:10:01.750 and everything and almost nothing here. And that's 00:10:01.750 --> 00:10:06.110 what people don't get healed. They just get patched 00:10:06.110 --> 00:10:10.870 up and next, patched up and next. You said a 00:10:10.870 --> 00:10:12.830 mouthful there, Harry, and people can travel 00:10:12.830 --> 00:10:17.000 their whole lives and not know. the options that 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:20.779 are available to them inside their own skin and 00:10:20.779 --> 00:10:23.840 and this highlights a bit of a thing consider 00:10:23.840 --> 00:10:27.240 the possibility there is a whole economy based 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:32.340 on you being sick yes there's a whole economy 00:10:32.340 --> 00:10:35.379 based on you not knowing your own sovereign power 00:10:37.389 --> 00:10:40.110 And this is what gets me excited. It's not so 00:10:40.110 --> 00:10:41.870 much the breath work. I mean, that's my thing, 00:10:41.870 --> 00:10:45.070 right? It's people discovering their own sovereign 00:10:45.070 --> 00:10:47.789 power, knowing that they've got value inside 00:10:47.789 --> 00:10:53.570 of them and they can increase that. Now, once 00:10:53.570 --> 00:10:55.889 people start realizing that, there's no going 00:10:55.889 --> 00:10:58.009 back. Once their eyes are open, there's no closing 00:10:58.009 --> 00:11:04.299 them again. And that's, yeah, to me, that is 00:11:04.299 --> 00:11:06.940 the most exciting part of this journey is if 00:11:06.940 --> 00:11:08.700 you look at, you know, sleep is the soil from 00:11:08.700 --> 00:11:12.100 which everything grows. Everybody, you, me, everybody 00:11:12.100 --> 00:11:14.240 have seeds of greatness, seeds of uniqueness 00:11:14.240 --> 00:11:18.120 inside of us. And they're just laying dormant, 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:21.320 waiting for the right energetic state for them 00:11:21.320 --> 00:11:28.600 to flourish. Yeah. It's really hard to have something 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:33.480 flourishing when you're in a very fatigued, poor 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:38.720 energetic state. But if you're getting good sleep, 00:11:38.960 --> 00:11:42.220 that has an accumulation effect. You don't just 00:11:42.220 --> 00:11:44.299 start feeling good and having more energy. All 00:11:44.299 --> 00:11:47.019 those seeds of greatness, seeds of uniqueness 00:11:47.019 --> 00:11:50.179 start to flourish. They cannot not flourish because 00:11:50.179 --> 00:11:56.200 we're built for it. Yeah. Tim, what would you 00:11:56.200 --> 00:12:00.960 say that what are some of the symptoms that people 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:04.580 can notice of not having a good sleep and or 00:12:04.580 --> 00:12:06.779 versus having a good sleep so that they know 00:12:06.779 --> 00:12:12.299 what exactly they're looking for? OK, so there 00:12:12.299 --> 00:12:18.299 are, I'd say, three main ones. Firstly, if you 00:12:18.299 --> 00:12:21.679 really want to get quick feedback, ask the people 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:26.500 that know you. Okay. They will tell you if you 00:12:26.500 --> 00:12:33.419 are acting cranky, overreactive, reactionary, 00:12:33.419 --> 00:12:36.899 a lack of understanding. Because when you're 00:12:36.899 --> 00:12:43.299 fatigued, it's all about you, really. I'm tired. 00:12:43.600 --> 00:12:47.240 I've got to shut up until I have a coffee. all 00:12:47.240 --> 00:12:49.419 right so so other people if you're willing to 00:12:49.419 --> 00:12:51.320 listen but the thing is when you're tired and 00:12:51.320 --> 00:12:53.659 cranky you're not willing to listen so so often 00:12:53.659 --> 00:12:57.120 that that falls on mute ears but uh an easy one 00:12:57.120 --> 00:13:02.200 the second one is uh how you feel when you're 00:13:02.200 --> 00:13:06.240 getting out of bed like if you because and i 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:07.919 can speak from personal experience i owned a 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:09.779 coffee shop i had to get up at 2 30 every morning 00:13:09.779 --> 00:13:15.850 and i felt like absolute like lower than death 00:13:15.850 --> 00:13:18.710 like wanting to puke but can't and i just had 00:13:18.710 --> 00:13:21.049 to write off the first two hours of my day um 00:13:21.049 --> 00:13:26.070 feeling like i i think death would be a better 00:13:26.070 --> 00:13:28.990 option right now and so you know and it was from 00:13:28.990 --> 00:13:33.190 that low point and i i took all sorts of external 00:13:33.190 --> 00:13:38.889 substances you know energy coffee but if i was 00:13:38.889 --> 00:13:44.500 i was i was denying my body its own ability to 00:13:44.500 --> 00:13:50.419 naturally um to naturally self -regenerate when 00:13:50.419 --> 00:13:54.019 i was depending on an external source so the 00:13:54.019 --> 00:13:58.059 how you get out of bed often determines how well 00:13:58.059 --> 00:14:01.899 you slept the night before uh so so that's another 00:14:01.899 --> 00:14:05.200 indicator the other one is and it's quite obvious 00:14:05.200 --> 00:14:08.519 but If you're thinking, oh, it's time for sleep 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:11.539 and you're dreading getting in that bed because 00:14:11.539 --> 00:14:14.860 you've associated so many negative experiences. 00:14:15.220 --> 00:14:17.860 And so you're sort of a self -fulfilling prophecy. 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:21.460 Like if you're struggling in that space in your 00:14:21.460 --> 00:14:24.960 bed, then, you know, when you get in there, guess 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:26.779 what? I've just I've told myself I'm going to 00:14:26.779 --> 00:14:29.200 feel like crud. And I used to tell myself, yes, 00:14:29.299 --> 00:14:30.899 I'm going to feel like crud. I'm going to wake 00:14:30.899 --> 00:14:33.240 up feeling like crud. And what do you think happened? 00:14:35.949 --> 00:14:39.490 Listen to me. Yeah, I'm right. I told you I was 00:14:39.490 --> 00:14:47.929 going to be right, you know. That's wow. If I 00:14:47.929 --> 00:14:50.009 was to flip that, sorry, because you did ask 00:14:50.009 --> 00:14:56.009 the symptoms of. And also, by the way, sleep 00:14:56.009 --> 00:14:59.649 poor people eat probably two, three times more 00:14:59.649 --> 00:15:03.590 than they actually need. So you eat a lot more. 00:15:06.149 --> 00:15:08.769 And if you don't believe your family members 00:15:08.769 --> 00:15:10.529 that you're cranky, notice your reactions in 00:15:10.529 --> 00:15:13.029 traffic. If you're more reactionary in traffic, 00:15:13.250 --> 00:15:17.590 that's always a good sign of your level of energy. 00:15:19.450 --> 00:15:25.129 So if I was to flip that, quality sleep, you 00:15:25.129 --> 00:15:28.830 eat less, you got more energy, you got more options. 00:15:30.210 --> 00:15:35.500 And the way I sort of... see it is energy is 00:15:35.500 --> 00:15:37.379 like money how you invest it is how you get it 00:15:37.379 --> 00:15:40.200 back and if you're and my vision for everyone 00:15:40.200 --> 00:15:42.860 i interact with is i want them to be an energetic 00:15:42.860 --> 00:15:46.100 millionaire because life occurs very differently 00:15:46.100 --> 00:15:48.460 if you're at a million dollars and you know you 00:15:48.460 --> 00:15:50.740 can make a million dollars tomorrow so if anyone 00:15:50.740 --> 00:15:52.360 takes from you it's okay i can make a million 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:54.600 dollars tomorrow because i've been that guy harry 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:57.299 where i've been energy poor i've only had 50 00:15:57.299 --> 00:16:01.070 cents worth of energy you know If somebody does 00:16:01.070 --> 00:16:03.009 something to me that annoys me, they take 25 00:16:03.009 --> 00:16:06.370 cents worth of energy. But when I'm only at 50 00:16:06.370 --> 00:16:09.049 cents, that's massive. So I've got to get that 00:16:09.049 --> 00:16:11.190 back. That was wrong. I am right. And I chased 00:16:11.190 --> 00:16:15.509 that for years, you know, forgetting the fact 00:16:15.509 --> 00:16:17.009 that I could make a million dollars tomorrow. 00:16:18.129 --> 00:16:25.230 So this is where quality sleep enables you to 00:16:25.230 --> 00:16:28.330 live like an energetic millionaire. And like 00:16:28.330 --> 00:16:31.309 I said, life occurs very differently when you're 00:16:31.309 --> 00:16:33.429 in that abundant state. You can get out ahead 00:16:33.429 --> 00:16:36.009 of things. Everyone's still got problems, but 00:16:36.009 --> 00:16:38.570 when you're seeing it from a higher perspective, 00:16:38.730 --> 00:16:41.970 you see it coming along much further away than 00:16:41.970 --> 00:16:43.730 when it's up in your face and you've got to react 00:16:43.730 --> 00:16:45.610 to it, if you know what I mean. And then when 00:16:45.610 --> 00:16:47.929 it's always appearing in my face, I'm always 00:16:47.929 --> 00:16:50.870 sort of so worried about what's coming in that 00:16:50.870 --> 00:16:53.970 I've completely, I've been taken out of my own 00:16:53.970 --> 00:16:58.070 vision, my own game. you know, serving at my 00:16:58.070 --> 00:17:02.870 highest level is impacted when I'm not just sleep 00:17:02.870 --> 00:17:05.170 poor, but reactionary. Thank you for being here 00:17:05.170 --> 00:17:07.049 today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to 00:17:07.049 --> 00:17:09.509 Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing 00:17:09.509 --> 00:17:12.549 your reactions as these episodes continue to 00:17:12.549 --> 00:17:14.250 move forward. This is going to get more and more 00:17:14.250 --> 00:17:16.569 fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well. 00:17:16.609 --> 00:17:18.529 We'll invite people to participate in the show. 00:17:18.650 --> 00:17:20.690 And thank you for giving us your time and attention. 00:17:21.009 --> 00:17:23.630 Have an excellent time building out your vision 00:17:23.630 --> 00:17:25.009 and becoming a vision pro yourself.