tell me about your vision my vision is a world
where every person can afford a good night's
sleep wow that's very simple i know i can i can
uh benefit from a good night of sleep uh tell
me more about that okay well look sleep is the
soil from which everything grows so in the special
forces we didn't know anything about sleep but
we knew if we denied the enemy sleep for three
nights it would mess them up better than a bullet
okay so if you want to destroy somebody you destroy
their sleep if you really care about somebody
if you want to build them up you you care about
their sleep and and my vision harry is imagine
imagine the governments of this world and a measure
of their effectiveness is measured against the
quality of the sleep of the people they govern
just just get your head around that for a second
because even if you're doing it from for money
alone and this is what i tell employers if you've
got a sleep poor employee they take double the
amount of sick days there's absenteeism but then
there's presenteeism if you're sleep poor you're
30 40 less productive And here's the kicker,
and this is where I started this work. So I came
through PTSD post -service myself, and I started
working with veterans. And I noticed that if
I improved their sleep, everything improved.
And it shows now that sleep -poor people have
200 % to 300 % higher likelihood of mental illness.
And that just blew my mind. Like the data is
in, this is, this is a thing. So, so, so, so
for something as simple as sleep, yes, it's a
simple thing, but the impacts are, it's, it's
everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, there's a lot
of studies that I've also actually seen through
where the gist was. You break your body throughout
the day and sleep is when you recover your body
and then you energize your body. If I go two
days without sleeping properly, even one day,
I can't. I'm just dead. I can't function. I don't
have the right mental aptitude to do anything.
I can't drive. I can't perform. I can't speak
properly. You are not coherent. So I totally
agree with you. I think sleep is the basis of
a lot of different things. There's a reason people
who work night is called the graveyard shift.
You're slowly dying. Yeah. Yeah. Again, a massive
increase in preventable diseases, chronic injuries
with people that are doing night shift because
you've broken the natural circadian rhythm. And
I think 100 ,000. crashes a year in the states
are related to uh feeling tired so you get you
might get breathalyzed for alcohol but no one's
testing for sleep yeah okay so you know i think
they worked out for a person you know earning
uh 60 grand a year that a sleep poor person costs
uh their employer and the economy between you
know five and twelve thousand dollars a year
Because workplace accidents goes up, you know,
chronic injuries go up, you know, as I mentioned
before, twice as many sick days, underperforming.
So if you take that in reverse, if you improve
people's sleep, then everything improves. And
it's easier said than done. But my background
being in the veteran space, the good thing about
that was if something didn't work. They would
let you know straight away in no uncertain terms,
in very clear language. All right. So having
cracked the sleep code in that space, it's those
tools that I'm now bringing into the world and
making accessible to people. And that's the thing.
A lot of people talk about sleep, Harry, but
people who are tired or already doing enough,
they want to say, look, here's what I want. Take
care of it for me. They can't. It's really hard
to do more. And especially as you go into sleep,
you're sort of in this sort of autopilot. So
people really need to know it's not the amount
of resources that you pour in. It's how they're
applied. How can you meet people where they are?
Because these people are tired. They can't take
it anymore. You can give them a thousand hacks,
but they're not going to do it. You literally
need to meet them where they are. And if you're
doing it right and they're sleeping better. It'll
be a case of, oh, that felt good. I'll have more,
please. Oh, that felt good. I'll have more. Wow.
That's awesome. I think you're right. One of
the main issues is the psychological issue when
it comes to people changing any habit, let alone
an act that they do, is because psychologically
they're not fixing what's causing all those things
to go on autopilot. What would you say, Tim?
Like, why did you start into all this and specifically
sleep? Why did you choose sleep? And why did
you go on this path? And how did all this started?
I'm very curious to know about this. Well, Harry,
it's not something I ever pictured myself doing.
But I'm dyslexic. I see things in patterns. And
if something is working, I don't have to understand.
I'm like, let's do more of that. I had this goal
of saving 40 veteran lives from suicide because
that's how many lives we'd lost in Afghanistan
to bombs and bullets. But we'd lost 30 to 40
times that amount to suicide. So I'm like, I
will die happy if I can attain 40 veteran lives
saved. But that happened within a year because
the programs I set up, one of the effectiveness
measurements was how much it improved sleep.
And I just I'm not a sleep guy, but I'm like,
this is working. I can't. It just is right. And
then, you know, all the data comes out about
how it's two to three hundred percent worse when
you're not sleeping. Well, it's two to three
at least better when you are sleeping. So so
once I discovered it and I discovered that. People
talk about sleep, but there's not a lot of people
activating it. So if you need to get into sleep
mode, you need to understand about what's called
the PNS, the parasympathetic nervous system.
So when you're really work focused, getting the
job done, you've got a vision of what you want,
you're applying yourself, you're hitting the
gas in the car, right? You're accelerating. That's
your sympathetic nervous system. Power up. push
forward and our world tends to really encourage
people to do that in fact they also encourage
poor sleeping habits look at that guy he's powering
on he's only had four hours sleep okay so what
they certainly didn't teach us in the military
and they don't have available to people um with
any ease of accessibility is how to hit the break
how to slow down how to not give a stuff about
anything in your day and get back underneath
your own skin Because what people don't know
is often when you're driving hard and this is
amplified when you're in fight or flight. If
you're in fight or flight and you're looking
for threat, you're so focused on the threat outside
of you, Harry, that you've actually lost connection
from your own body. You're connected out there,
but you're disconnected here. So parasympathetic
gets you back in your body and our bodies are
wondrously made. Once you're actually connected
back into it. It can self -regulate. It can self
-heal. It can self -regenerate. But if you're
always focused out there and you're never actually
connected to your own body, to me, that's a mental
health problem. It's actually a physical disconnect
problem, if I'm being completely honest. It's
the disconnect from your own self. You don't
see your own value. You don't know how to enhance
it. You're just chasing the value that's outside
of you. But seeing this, and I'm a guy that I
made the mistake of telling a doctor, and I'm
not the only one here. I told a doctor I couldn't
sleep. I lost six years of my life to pills.
And Harry, I'm not getting that time back. And
so as God is my witness, I don't want anyone
else to go into that space and not know there
are other ways to access that deep state of reconnection.
You're on point here. Most people, I don't think
they realize that when they go to doctors, doctors,
in most cases, is there to treat your symptoms.
It's not really to heal you or go for the cause
that's causing you on whatever you're dealing
with. So choosing the right doctor for yourself
and at the same time... Taking that to minimize
your symptoms and focusing on healing your body
at the same time. I think they go hand in hand
and we do a lot of things here with insurances
and everything and almost nothing here. And that's
what people don't get healed. They just get patched
up and next, patched up and next. You said a
mouthful there, Harry, and people can travel
their whole lives and not know. the options that
are available to them inside their own skin and
and this highlights a bit of a thing consider
the possibility there is a whole economy based
on you being sick yes there's a whole economy
based on you not knowing your own sovereign power
And this is what gets me excited. It's not so
much the breath work. I mean, that's my thing,
right? It's people discovering their own sovereign
power, knowing that they've got value inside
of them and they can increase that. Now, once
people start realizing that, there's no going
back. Once their eyes are open, there's no closing
them again. And that's, yeah, to me, that is
the most exciting part of this journey is if
you look at, you know, sleep is the soil from
which everything grows. Everybody, you, me, everybody
have seeds of greatness, seeds of uniqueness
inside of us. And they're just laying dormant,
waiting for the right energetic state for them
to flourish. Yeah. It's really hard to have something
flourishing when you're in a very fatigued, poor
energetic state. But if you're getting good sleep,
that has an accumulation effect. You don't just
start feeling good and having more energy. All
those seeds of greatness, seeds of uniqueness
start to flourish. They cannot not flourish because
we're built for it. Yeah. Tim, what would you
say that what are some of the symptoms that people
can notice of not having a good sleep and or
versus having a good sleep so that they know
what exactly they're looking for? OK, so there
are, I'd say, three main ones. Firstly, if you
really want to get quick feedback, ask the people
that know you. Okay. They will tell you if you
are acting cranky, overreactive, reactionary,
a lack of understanding. Because when you're
fatigued, it's all about you, really. I'm tired.
I've got to shut up until I have a coffee. all
right so so other people if you're willing to
listen but the thing is when you're tired and
cranky you're not willing to listen so so often
that that falls on mute ears but uh an easy one
the second one is uh how you feel when you're
getting out of bed like if you because and i
can speak from personal experience i owned a
coffee shop i had to get up at 2 30 every morning
and i felt like absolute like lower than death
like wanting to puke but can't and i just had
to write off the first two hours of my day um
feeling like i i think death would be a better
option right now and so you know and it was from
that low point and i i took all sorts of external
substances you know energy coffee but if i was
i was i was denying my body its own ability to
naturally um to naturally self -regenerate when
i was depending on an external source so the
how you get out of bed often determines how well
you slept the night before uh so so that's another
indicator the other one is and it's quite obvious
but If you're thinking, oh, it's time for sleep
and you're dreading getting in that bed because
you've associated so many negative experiences.
And so you're sort of a self -fulfilling prophecy.
Like if you're struggling in that space in your
bed, then, you know, when you get in there, guess
what? I've just I've told myself I'm going to
feel like crud. And I used to tell myself, yes,
I'm going to feel like crud. I'm going to wake
up feeling like crud. And what do you think happened?
Listen to me. Yeah, I'm right. I told you I was
going to be right, you know. That's wow. If I
was to flip that, sorry, because you did ask
the symptoms of. And also, by the way, sleep
poor people eat probably two, three times more
than they actually need. So you eat a lot more.
And if you don't believe your family members
that you're cranky, notice your reactions in
traffic. If you're more reactionary in traffic,
that's always a good sign of your level of energy.
So if I was to flip that, quality sleep, you
eat less, you got more energy, you got more options.
And the way I sort of... see it is energy is
like money how you invest it is how you get it
back and if you're and my vision for everyone
i interact with is i want them to be an energetic
millionaire because life occurs very differently
if you're at a million dollars and you know you
can make a million dollars tomorrow so if anyone
takes from you it's okay i can make a million
dollars tomorrow because i've been that guy harry
where i've been energy poor i've only had 50
cents worth of energy you know If somebody does
something to me that annoys me, they take 25
cents worth of energy. But when I'm only at 50
cents, that's massive. So I've got to get that
back. That was wrong. I am right. And I chased
that for years, you know, forgetting the fact
that I could make a million dollars tomorrow.
So this is where quality sleep enables you to
live like an energetic millionaire. And like
I said, life occurs very differently when you're
in that abundant state. You can get out ahead
of things. Everyone's still got problems, but
when you're seeing it from a higher perspective,
you see it coming along much further away than
when it's up in your face and you've got to react
to it, if you know what I mean. And then when
it's always appearing in my face, I'm always
sort of so worried about what's coming in that
I've completely, I've been taken out of my own
vision, my own game. you know, serving at my
highest level is impacted when I'm not just sleep
poor, but reactionary. Thank you for being here
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