WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.500 So you're the thought process of everything, 00:00:02.700 --> 00:00:05.780 and then you have a team of people that has expertise 00:00:05.780 --> 00:00:08.720 in what you've thought of, and now you now have 00:00:08.720 --> 00:00:11.779 all these things that you are passionate about. 00:00:11.939 --> 00:00:16.699 Is that the way it goes? Sure. I'm a contributor. 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:21.399 Got it. I love that. Jason, so tell me more. 00:00:21.480 --> 00:00:25.760 I see relief on your name. Tell me about relief 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:29.280 and then what you're working on now. So Relief 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:31.640 is what I'm working on now. So Relief is the 00:00:31.640 --> 00:00:38.359 name of the app that we've launched. It basically 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:40.899 helps people that have fell behind on their bills. 00:00:41.299 --> 00:00:43.600 Right now, if you fall behind on your bills, 00:00:43.820 --> 00:00:46.420 you have to pick up the phone, you have to talk 00:00:46.420 --> 00:00:48.500 to people, you have to answer annoying letters 00:00:48.500 --> 00:00:50.899 in the mail. So we were like, look, there's an 00:00:50.899 --> 00:00:54.240 app that can pick you up in any part of the world. 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:57.490 There's an app that can deliver you food. wherever 00:00:57.490 --> 00:01:01.429 you are why isn't there an app that helps people 00:01:01.429 --> 00:01:05.150 that have you know fell out of banking why isn't 00:01:05.150 --> 00:01:08.269 there an app that you know takes the stress out 00:01:08.269 --> 00:01:13.489 of financial financial issues as much as there 00:01:13.489 --> 00:01:18.069 can be so we created the first one there is nice 00:01:18.069 --> 00:01:21.829 and it's focused around the bills so in my mind 00:01:21.829 --> 00:01:24.290 what i'm thinking if i went to the app i would 00:01:24.290 --> 00:01:27.959 actually List the companies that actually have 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:30.799 bills with or how much I pay So how does that 00:01:30.799 --> 00:01:32.640 app look and what are you supposed to put in 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:35.280 there in order for it to work better for us or 00:01:35.280 --> 00:01:38.560 them? Yeah, so it actually does all that for 00:01:38.560 --> 00:01:41.099 you. So you put in a little bit of your information 00:01:41.099 --> 00:01:45.140 And it pulls all the data from your personal 00:01:45.140 --> 00:01:49.700 financial life and it basically can identify 00:01:49.700 --> 00:01:55.000 not only who what bills you owe and who they're 00:01:55.000 --> 00:01:58.879 with but it identifies potential workouts that 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:02.219 you don't know exist deals that you can get with 00:02:02.219 --> 00:02:05.099 each creditor depending on the situation that 00:02:05.099 --> 00:02:06.920 you're in it's not it's different for everybody 00:02:06.920 --> 00:02:09.479 of course but the app does it all for you so 00:02:09.479 --> 00:02:11.539 you never have to pick up the phone and make 00:02:11.539 --> 00:02:14.780 any phone calls to deal with the bills that you 00:02:14.780 --> 00:02:17.860 fall behind on and that's crazy you know of course 00:02:17.860 --> 00:02:20.599 as i mentioned my mind is just gonna go mad crazy 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:23.259 because i know And this is personal experience. 00:02:23.539 --> 00:02:25.180 I'm doing better. I've done better. I'm in a 00:02:25.180 --> 00:02:27.479 better place. However, you know, they say when 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:29.960 people call you about your bills or the collector, 00:02:30.139 --> 00:02:33.479 it literally starts everything all over. So in 00:02:33.479 --> 00:02:35.740 my mind, I'm like, I would love to have something 00:02:35.740 --> 00:02:39.439 that's in that way that that doesn't restart 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:44.340 them contacting me and going and again, I guess, 00:02:44.340 --> 00:02:47.879 abusing the fact that I do have a debt. So using 00:02:47.879 --> 00:02:51.439 that app and being able to negotiate and. Because 00:02:51.439 --> 00:02:53.259 I think that's the part people want to do. You 00:02:53.259 --> 00:02:55.319 don't really want to pay the full price of what 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:57.319 you know you really owe. But with that being 00:02:57.319 --> 00:03:02.080 said, then does it give you alerts and appointments 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:04.900 or how does that keep going and help you in the 00:03:04.900 --> 00:03:10.219 long run? Yeah, so for people that are behind 00:03:10.219 --> 00:03:12.360 on their bills right now, we're currently building 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.560 new features that expand this. But for right 00:03:14.560 --> 00:03:18.150 now. It contacts the creditor for you in the 00:03:18.150 --> 00:03:21.889 back end. It finds out what they would accept, 00:03:22.229 --> 00:03:25.189 and it breaks down a payment plan that they're 00:03:25.189 --> 00:03:27.270 willing to accept as well. And that all comes 00:03:27.270 --> 00:03:30.710 from the creditor itself, whoever owns the debt, 00:03:30.870 --> 00:03:33.129 without you having to do anything. And then once 00:03:33.129 --> 00:03:34.789 we get that information and we get that approved 00:03:34.789 --> 00:03:37.129 from the creditor, we submit that information 00:03:37.129 --> 00:03:40.259 to the user so they have... the dates, where 00:03:40.259 --> 00:03:42.939 to pay, and so on and so forth. What we're going 00:03:42.939 --> 00:03:45.219 to be building very soon and we're working on 00:03:45.219 --> 00:03:47.819 right now is all the alerts when your payments 00:03:47.819 --> 00:03:50.379 due, certain payment rails so you can actually 00:03:50.379 --> 00:03:52.120 make a payment through the app, and so on and 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:54.439 so forth. But right now, we wanted to start with 00:03:54.439 --> 00:03:58.219 the sword of the issue, put the dagger right 00:03:58.219 --> 00:04:01.180 in the heart of the issue, which is what type 00:04:01.180 --> 00:04:03.680 of savings can I get right now and what type 00:04:03.680 --> 00:04:06.300 of payment plan can I get for these bills that 00:04:06.300 --> 00:04:08.550 have gotten overwhelming? And that's exactly 00:04:08.550 --> 00:04:11.469 what the app does right now. But it also, you 00:04:11.469 --> 00:04:14.990 know, it lets you know you're not alone. You 00:04:14.990 --> 00:04:17.230 know, there's a lot of loss of dignity when it 00:04:17.230 --> 00:04:20.089 comes to your finances. As you know, I'm aware, 00:04:20.230 --> 00:04:22.769 too. I fell behind on my bills in my career. 00:04:22.949 --> 00:04:25.149 You know, I'm an entrepreneur, you know, so I've 00:04:25.149 --> 00:04:27.670 gotten kicked in the face a bunch of times. I 00:04:27.670 --> 00:04:29.850 think the worst feeling of anything is that you're 00:04:29.850 --> 00:04:32.589 just not a good person, you know. And one of 00:04:32.589 --> 00:04:35.050 the messages that we are sharing is like, look, 00:04:35.129 --> 00:04:37.620 you're not a bad person. you know, just because 00:04:37.620 --> 00:04:39.939 you got into an issue with your bills. As a matter 00:04:39.939 --> 00:04:42.360 of fact, one in three Americans have fell behind 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:44.680 on a bill right now. You know, inflation's got 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:47.879 all of our finances out of whack. Why isn't there 00:04:47.879 --> 00:04:50.199 anything that can help us? And now there is, 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:54.139 you know, as far as automated and as far as in 00:04:54.139 --> 00:04:56.480 an application. But you have to understand, like, 00:04:56.500 --> 00:04:58.199 if you're going through this problem, like you're 00:04:58.199 --> 00:05:00.579 worth more than your credit score. Absolutely. 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:04.149 Absolutely. You know, It's a cutesy thought. 00:05:04.310 --> 00:05:07.610 You should have alerts that have positive affirmation 00:05:07.610 --> 00:05:09.889 towards who they are and what they're doing. 00:05:09.990 --> 00:05:13.269 That would be super cute. You know, it's interestingly 00:05:13.269 --> 00:05:16.550 enough when you said that, that you say that 00:05:16.550 --> 00:05:19.470 because we built the app to sort of be like a 00:05:19.470 --> 00:05:22.589 very effective tool, but also at the same time 00:05:22.589 --> 00:05:25.670 have this calming ability. So when you first 00:05:25.670 --> 00:05:28.639 log on to the app, you see like. one of our characters 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:31.379 that we've created our amazing designers have 00:05:31.379 --> 00:05:33.620 designed characters that sort of like float in 00:05:33.620 --> 00:05:36.720 like a yoga pose so it's sort of like because 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:38.459 what happens when you fall behind on your bills 00:05:38.459 --> 00:05:41.319 is everything gets chaotic the world around you 00:05:41.319 --> 00:05:43.300 gets crazy the phone starts ringing the bills 00:05:43.300 --> 00:05:45.879 start coming in the mail your significant other 00:05:45.879 --> 00:05:48.120 is probably pissed at you or you're hiding it 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:51.199 from them that's a chaotic world so we wanted 00:05:51.199 --> 00:05:54.720 a space that we can create in an app calm you 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:57.699 down so it's sort of like at a precipice of like 00:05:57.699 --> 00:06:00.939 paying off your bills and getting real solutions 00:06:00.939 --> 00:06:05.120 with like meditation on top of that so you can 00:06:05.120 --> 00:06:07.399 calm down throughout the process because to be 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:09.740 honest with you these things are going to go 00:06:09.740 --> 00:06:13.779 away you know life's too short you know this 00:06:13.779 --> 00:06:16.399 is a fleeting moment all of its fleeting moments 00:06:17.100 --> 00:06:19.860 That's why we feel so strongly of providing simple 00:06:19.860 --> 00:06:21.980 tools, because let's just get back. Let's get 00:06:21.980 --> 00:06:24.959 you back to living your best life. Yeah. Yeah. 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:27.819 And I know that that's often that phrase is often 00:06:27.819 --> 00:06:30.160 used very loosely. But living your best life 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:33.480 is living worry free, you know, and and knowing 00:06:33.480 --> 00:06:36.500 that things will get better. My favorite quote 00:06:36.500 --> 00:06:38.860 is all will be well, regardless of the outcome. 00:06:39.550 --> 00:06:42.329 It has to be well. So there's there is peace 00:06:42.329 --> 00:06:46.149 in everything that we do. Also, making sure that 00:06:46.149 --> 00:06:48.350 that piece isn't surface piece is core piece. 00:06:48.470 --> 00:06:51.220 You know, it's that soulful kind of. Yeah. Where 00:06:51.220 --> 00:06:55.319 all of these things don't have an effect on what 00:06:55.319 --> 00:06:57.319 you do in your daily life and that you could 00:06:57.319 --> 00:06:59.500 keep going. So I love the fact that it has that 00:06:59.500 --> 00:07:02.240 calming sense to it when you enter it in, because 00:07:02.240 --> 00:07:04.819 at the end of the day, it is a very stressful 00:07:04.819 --> 00:07:08.620 thing. So I like that. I have a I have a question 00:07:08.620 --> 00:07:14.579 for you. What's your why? My my a big piece of 00:07:14.579 --> 00:07:19.259 my why is to everything that we're talking about 00:07:19.259 --> 00:07:23.170 right now. motivates me to make people feel better 00:07:23.170 --> 00:07:27.689 and so one of the leading causes of suicide in 00:07:27.689 --> 00:07:30.550 our country and throughout the world are financial 00:07:30.550 --> 00:07:33.230 problems you know one of the leading causes of 00:07:33.230 --> 00:07:35.730 you know divorce in our country is due to financial 00:07:35.730 --> 00:07:39.829 problems and we don't take that those emotions 00:07:39.829 --> 00:07:43.290 and those situations lightly when with what we're 00:07:43.290 --> 00:07:46.610 working on I don't take them lightly not only 00:07:46.610 --> 00:07:49.399 do they keep me up at night motivating me to 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:51.720 think of new things to make it better but it 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.800 also helps me go to sleep knowing that we are 00:07:54.800 --> 00:07:56.720 helping people right now since we've launched 00:07:56.720 --> 00:08:00.040 the app over a hundred thousand people have downloaded 00:08:00.040 --> 00:08:03.279 it and we're helping thousands and thousands 00:08:03.279 --> 00:08:07.319 of people navigate these situations and the why 00:08:07.319 --> 00:08:12.860 is is is is is basic principles to help our fellow 00:08:12.860 --> 00:08:16.870 humans right have lived better lives like that. 00:08:16.889 --> 00:08:20.050 That is why I'm doing this, because I want at 00:08:20.050 --> 00:08:23.209 the end of the day to my time on this world to 00:08:23.209 --> 00:08:25.209 be dedicated for something that's bigger than 00:08:25.209 --> 00:08:28.829 just me. Right. And what other way that, you 00:08:28.829 --> 00:08:31.870 know, for me to use my talents, my skills, my 00:08:31.870 --> 00:08:34.509 network to put towards helping others in their 00:08:34.509 --> 00:08:37.610 most stressful times. Absolutely. Absolutely. 00:08:37.990 --> 00:08:40.370 It's so it's so interesting. And we're talking 00:08:40.370 --> 00:08:43.370 about finances and all these things that really 00:08:43.370 --> 00:08:46.850 just get us down. Very random statement I'm about 00:08:46.850 --> 00:08:48.870 to make. I had no clue what was going on with 00:08:48.870 --> 00:08:52.610 eggs. Right. I had no clue that we were low on 00:08:52.610 --> 00:08:55.149 eggs and how much they cost or anything like 00:08:55.149 --> 00:08:58.279 that. It's not because we don't. We don't actually 00:08:58.279 --> 00:09:00.779 eat them. It's the fact of it's a necessity. 00:09:00.879 --> 00:09:03.139 Right. That's something you need. So I say that 00:09:03.139 --> 00:09:05.539 to say is that we have so many other problems 00:09:05.539 --> 00:09:07.940 that we can't control. Right. We can't control 00:09:07.940 --> 00:09:10.000 the prices of eggs. We can't control anything 00:09:10.000 --> 00:09:13.259 sold in the store if it's a necessity. But in 00:09:13.259 --> 00:09:15.360 the aspect of what you're building with relief, 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.659 you can find relief in your debt. Right. And 00:09:18.659 --> 00:09:21.700 it can actually you can choose to do something. 00:09:22.200 --> 00:09:24.600 at your own pace too with no one ever knowing 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:27.360 so i love that it's also very private right you 00:09:27.360 --> 00:09:31.360 don't have to contact a credit specialist and 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.980 tell all of your business and give all so i love 00:09:33.980 --> 00:09:36.480 that it's a it's a private thing it's a it's 00:09:36.480 --> 00:09:38.779 still probably emotional but it's something that 00:09:38.779 --> 00:09:40.940 you could do in your own time you know maybe 00:09:40.940 --> 00:09:44.600 after meditate after the fact just to make the 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:46.879 day go better but what where did the name relief 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:51.929 come from So as one of my partners, I work with 00:09:51.929 --> 00:09:55.070 the most soulful individuals. Like we've been 00:09:55.070 --> 00:09:56.830 working on this project, even though we launched 00:09:56.830 --> 00:09:58.409 eight months ago, we've been working on it for 00:09:58.409 --> 00:10:01.090 almost four years. And one of the reasons why 00:10:01.090 --> 00:10:03.110 we got together and I think our relationships 00:10:03.110 --> 00:10:05.789 blossomed is because we put our heart and souls 00:10:05.789 --> 00:10:10.669 on the table to develop this. And so early on, 00:10:10.690 --> 00:10:14.710 one of my partners, my thought was that there 00:10:14.710 --> 00:10:19.700 was a gentleman in that. committed suicide because 00:10:19.700 --> 00:10:21.820 of his finances and I was gonna name the app 00:10:21.820 --> 00:10:25.559 after this gentleman just to keep us on pace 00:10:25.559 --> 00:10:29.539 and it you know it's it's it's it that's even 00:10:29.539 --> 00:10:32.039 though it sounds great it's like well we wanted 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:35.340 to provide simplicity and what this means and 00:10:35.340 --> 00:10:39.299 so relief is the feeling that you get when you 00:10:39.299 --> 00:10:42.019 know something out there is built for you that 00:10:42.019 --> 00:10:44.980 doesn't exist right now in this space right and 00:10:44.980 --> 00:10:47.889 so you know i've had family members come to me 00:10:47.889 --> 00:10:49.750 and i've been in and out of the industry for 00:10:49.750 --> 00:10:53.809 the past almost 25 years and it's like even if 00:10:53.809 --> 00:10:56.529 there's not a solution yet just to know that 00:10:56.529 --> 00:10:59.110 you're doing something about it is this like 00:10:59.110 --> 00:11:02.409 is this sense it's this light it's this light 00:11:02.409 --> 00:11:06.809 sense and that sense is is relief and we do a 00:11:06.809 --> 00:11:10.600 lot of like user focused testing and early on 00:11:10.600 --> 00:11:13.220 like when we first launched the app we would 00:11:13.220 --> 00:11:15.899 do these videos uh you know with the permission 00:11:15.899 --> 00:11:18.960 of these the small groups we wanted to see how 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:21.799 the the the use the case studies would affect 00:11:21.799 --> 00:11:24.980 people and one thing that was consistent with 00:11:24.980 --> 00:11:27.340 each and every user that came to the app they 00:11:27.340 --> 00:11:29.519 would they would download the app it would pop 00:11:29.519 --> 00:11:31.779 up in front of their screen and you would see 00:11:31.779 --> 00:11:36.200 them take this deep sigh and like sort of like 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:39.460 this just let it out and that sigh was of relief 00:11:39.460 --> 00:11:42.899 so it's like it's the brand itself has its own 00:11:42.899 --> 00:11:45.960 sort of you know relevancy to each individual 00:11:45.960 --> 00:11:48.960 on the note of like that feeling you get when 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:51.840 you're like finally something that's like just 00:11:51.840 --> 00:11:53.559 what you said you don't have to pick up the phone 00:11:53.559 --> 00:11:56.159 i know this seems like a commercial for it but 00:11:56.159 --> 00:11:58.259 like it's not you know this is actually like 00:11:58.259 --> 00:12:01.720 the real because finances are such a pain in 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:04.879 the ass especially because not to go on a huge 00:12:04.879 --> 00:12:07.039 rant right now but you have a situation where 00:12:07.039 --> 00:12:10.059 from an outside perspective if you're if you're 00:12:10.059 --> 00:12:12.039 part of the one percent or you live in a bubble 00:12:12.039 --> 00:12:14.340 you you know there's a lot of finger pointing 00:12:14.340 --> 00:12:17.259 you took out this money like you should pay it 00:12:17.259 --> 00:12:19.419 back why should you get a deal and blah blah 00:12:19.419 --> 00:12:21.679 blah but you're not what you're not taking into 00:12:21.679 --> 00:12:26.080 consideration and inflation has caused everyday 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:31.360 bills to quadruple over the past five years which 00:12:31.360 --> 00:12:33.940 is completely contributed to the overwhelming 00:12:33.940 --> 00:12:37.159 delinquency. And if you couple that and compound 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:40.419 that on top of the fact that when we go to school, 00:12:40.679 --> 00:12:44.580 we're not taught. Using a credit card might seem 00:12:44.580 --> 00:12:47.879 simple, but it's a very advanced financial instrument. 00:12:48.220 --> 00:12:51.860 It has a negative compounding effect. And people 00:12:51.860 --> 00:12:53.679 don't understand what that is because you're 00:12:53.679 --> 00:12:55.500 not taught in high school how to use a credit 00:12:55.500 --> 00:12:58.080 card. It's crazy to me. You're taught how to 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.750 dissect a frog, right? But you're not taught 00:13:01.750 --> 00:13:04.070 one of the most fundamental things you will do 00:13:04.070 --> 00:13:06.610 every day in your life, which is like use plastic 00:13:06.610 --> 00:13:09.710 to make purchases. And the cause and effect, 00:13:09.990 --> 00:13:13.610 a lot of people just grow up without this, you 00:13:13.610 --> 00:13:18.710 know, financial education. And these companies, 00:13:18.830 --> 00:13:21.549 these big banks completely take advantage of 00:13:21.549 --> 00:13:25.129 that. Right. They market to you. And if you obviously 00:13:25.129 --> 00:13:27.509 going on a rant right now, but if you compound 00:13:27.509 --> 00:13:30.809 that also on top of the fact that. as in america 00:13:30.809 --> 00:13:34.389 we like want to keep up with the joneses and 00:13:34.389 --> 00:13:37.529 like buy everything we are a nation full of consumers 00:13:37.529 --> 00:13:42.230 this is the salad bowl of pain absolutely right 00:13:42.230 --> 00:13:45.070 so like part of what we want to do is like you 00:13:45.070 --> 00:13:47.330 know when you're at your most painful moments 00:13:47.330 --> 00:13:50.149 because of all of these elements there's something 00:13:50.149 --> 00:13:52.350 there that can pull you out and now that you've 00:13:52.350 --> 00:13:57.450 gotten out don't go back Yeah. And I think that 00:13:57.450 --> 00:14:01.250 you made some great points regarding schools 00:14:01.250 --> 00:14:04.070 not teaching you about credit cards because they 00:14:04.070 --> 00:14:06.269 definitely teach you how to apply for college. 00:14:06.889 --> 00:14:10.889 And with that college comes a debt, you know. 00:14:12.040 --> 00:14:15.000 I think it's like at 17 and a half or 18, the 00:14:15.000 --> 00:14:16.899 mail starts coming in. Hey, get a credit card, 00:14:16.980 --> 00:14:19.220 get a credit card. And then they go on to college 00:14:19.220 --> 00:14:21.580 and debt on top of debt. And and you're right. 00:14:21.620 --> 00:14:25.120 And then it's just a snowball effect. But it's 00:14:25.120 --> 00:14:27.059 something like this that could actually help 00:14:27.059 --> 00:14:30.720 out a family. Right. So now that I'm thinking 00:14:30.720 --> 00:14:34.059 on a bigger scale, as you mentioned, kids in 00:14:34.059 --> 00:14:36.360 in middle school and high school and where they 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:39.399 end up, I would be one of those parents like, 00:14:39.460 --> 00:14:42.250 hey. check this out i can't do this today because 00:14:42.250 --> 00:14:45.029 this is what i'm working on this is what mom 00:14:45.029 --> 00:14:46.909 is trying to figure out how to do and it could 00:14:46.909 --> 00:14:49.610 be a teaching it it could actually become a family 00:14:49.610 --> 00:14:52.269 kind of thing and once the embarrassment and 00:14:52.269 --> 00:14:55.149 and the relief comes out this is something to 00:14:55.149 --> 00:14:58.269 now teach our children and we now have the ability 00:14:58.269 --> 00:15:00.909 to do that within our homes and what that looks 00:15:00.909 --> 00:15:03.610 like and the process that it takes and not necessarily 00:15:03.610 --> 00:15:05.470 like you said having to use the telephone to 00:15:05.470 --> 00:15:08.409 do it but using the telephone to show it you 00:15:08.409 --> 00:15:12.139 know this is what i So I'm thinking, Jason, that 00:15:12.139 --> 00:15:14.679 this is even bigger than you. This is bigger 00:15:14.679 --> 00:15:17.720 than the team. This is like this could be something 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:21.440 that could be so amazing. Maybe the school can 00:15:21.440 --> 00:15:24.299 start using that of showing what it looks like 00:15:24.299 --> 00:15:27.620 to get out of debt or to understand the meanings 00:15:27.620 --> 00:15:29.559 of these things. So, of course, like I said, 00:15:29.620 --> 00:15:32.139 I always have these things on my mind, but I'm 00:15:32.139 --> 00:15:35.279 like, this can go so far. So you have relief. 00:15:35.460 --> 00:15:40.090 You have. You know, just so many other words 00:15:40.090 --> 00:15:42.429 that can match that. I'd be like, hey, this is 00:15:42.429 --> 00:15:45.649 this is really it. So I love it. I love it. I 00:15:45.649 --> 00:15:49.250 love it. And I cannot wait to see it grow and 00:15:49.250 --> 00:15:52.230 do more and probably be everything that I just 00:15:52.230 --> 00:15:57.750 thought it could be right now. So it's it's and 00:15:57.750 --> 00:16:00.620 you said the app is out already, right? okay 00:16:00.620 --> 00:16:03.539 share with the audience where they can get the 00:16:03.539 --> 00:16:05.940 app at where they can contact you and any social 00:16:05.940 --> 00:16:09.000 media handles you have yeah the app is available 00:16:09.000 --> 00:16:13.480 in the app store ios and google play store just 00:16:13.480 --> 00:16:16.240 look up relief it's one of the top financial 00:16:16.240 --> 00:16:19.039 apps right now that's trending in both categories 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:24.019 a lot of people rate us based on what their creditor 00:16:24.019 --> 00:16:26.500 is doing. But we're not the creditor. We always 00:16:26.500 --> 00:16:28.740 remind people like that's a big thing. It's like, 00:16:28.799 --> 00:16:31.279 oh, this is a bad deal. It's like, well, it didn't 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:33.259 come from us. It came from the creditor. But 00:16:33.259 --> 00:16:36.860 for most people, we're saving up to 50 % on people's 00:16:36.860 --> 00:16:39.980 total debt. We just save somebody over 70 % of 00:16:39.980 --> 00:16:42.539 their total debt, which is we celebrate all these 00:16:42.539 --> 00:16:45.720 wins. So yeah, so if you're behind on your bills, 00:16:45.879 --> 00:16:49.000 just give it a try. It's free to find out what 00:16:49.000 --> 00:16:51.740 the app can potentially do for you. We take a 00:16:51.740 --> 00:16:56.100 nominal fee that's guaranteed if you get savings. 00:16:56.399 --> 00:16:58.720 So there's no money exchange unless you benefit 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:02.179 from it. So it's in the app. Download it today. 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:04.380 If you want if you are going through any type 00:17:04.380 --> 00:17:06.500 of situation where you want to talk to me personally 00:17:06.500 --> 00:17:09.160 and get some feedback. I love doing that. I do 00:17:09.160 --> 00:17:11.519 it all day long. You could find me on Instagram 00:17:11.519 --> 00:17:14.839 at Jason Saltzman. And I'm on Twitter. It's the 00:17:14.839 --> 00:17:17.420 reverse. It's at Saltzman, Jason or X or whatever 00:17:17.420 --> 00:17:21.000 it's called now. And that that's that those are 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:22.660 the best ways of getting in touch with me. Thank 00:17:22.660 --> 00:17:24.640 you for being here today. I'm really happy that 00:17:24.640 --> 00:17:26.680 you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.920 forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes 00:17:29.920 --> 00:17:31.720 continue to move forward. This is going to get 00:17:31.720 --> 00:17:34.359 more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:36.440 as well. We'll invite people to participate in 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:38.599 the show. And thank you for giving us your time 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:40.880 and attention. Have an excellent time building 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:43.200 out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.