WEBVTT 00:00:00.170 --> 00:00:04.929 Tell me about your vision. You know, it's so 00:00:04.929 --> 00:00:08.130 interesting. Since I started studying trauma, 00:00:08.230 --> 00:00:10.910 so I'll tell you a bit of a personal story because 00:00:10.910 --> 00:00:12.890 I know that's part of what we're going to get 00:00:12.890 --> 00:00:16.500 into. I have been running an international nonprofit, 00:00:16.859 --> 00:00:19.519 the Global Family Med Foundation, since 2012. 00:00:19.859 --> 00:00:23.620 And in 2015, I found myself working in a long 00:00:23.620 --> 00:00:26.300 -term partnership with a medical school called 00:00:26.300 --> 00:00:29.260 the Patten Academy in the Kathmandu Valley in 00:00:29.260 --> 00:00:32.780 Nepal. And so I was there at the time, just happened 00:00:32.780 --> 00:00:35.899 to be there when the earthquakes hit. And so 00:00:35.899 --> 00:00:39.380 I found myself having some PTSD symptoms for 00:00:39.380 --> 00:00:42.399 the first time in my life. But then I started 00:00:42.399 --> 00:00:44.619 recognizing that I'd had some of them during 00:00:44.619 --> 00:00:48.859 my divorce. I'd had some of them when I was working 00:00:48.859 --> 00:00:52.299 in the hospital setting as a hospitalist dealing 00:00:52.299 --> 00:00:56.939 with really sick patients, running codes, working 00:00:56.939 --> 00:01:00.179 night shifts for 30 hours. I started recognizing 00:01:00.179 --> 00:01:02.899 how much trauma was trapped in my body as I started 00:01:02.899 --> 00:01:07.750 researching trauma. post -earthquake and once 00:01:07.750 --> 00:01:10.129 i started recognizing how much of it was in my 00:01:10.129 --> 00:01:12.010 clinical practice and how many patients were 00:01:12.010 --> 00:01:15.049 affected by it i started studying solutions so 00:01:15.049 --> 00:01:16.629 the first thing i learned was something called 00:01:16.629 --> 00:01:20.480 accelerated resolution therapy which is a quicker 00:01:20.480 --> 00:01:25.640 version of EMDR. So it's a really effective way 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:28.859 to manage PTSD symptoms. And sometimes I would 00:01:28.859 --> 00:01:30.719 get results in a single session because I'd known 00:01:30.719 --> 00:01:33.519 my patients for so long, they could stay in a 00:01:33.519 --> 00:01:35.700 really calm body with me, which is essential 00:01:35.700 --> 00:01:38.819 to trauma processing. And that success was not 00:01:38.819 --> 00:01:40.540 just helping their mental health, it was helping 00:01:40.540 --> 00:01:42.519 their physical health. So I'd have people with 00:01:42.519 --> 00:01:46.719 diabetes, with chronic lung disease, with hypertension 00:01:46.719 --> 00:01:49.730 or blood pressure problems. And they would suddenly 00:01:49.730 --> 00:01:53.510 improve from trauma therapy. And I thought, wow, 00:01:53.709 --> 00:01:57.250 this has such a significant impact. And at the 00:01:57.250 --> 00:01:59.209 same time that I was studying trauma, I was also 00:01:59.209 --> 00:02:01.750 studying social innovation and design thinking, 00:02:01.909 --> 00:02:04.950 which is really how do we change systems? And 00:02:04.950 --> 00:02:06.829 I was recognizing that trauma happens in the 00:02:06.829 --> 00:02:09.110 individual, but it's a manifestation of not just 00:02:09.110 --> 00:02:11.849 the community, but our ecosystem. And that is 00:02:11.849 --> 00:02:17.879 politics, that is in the environment. it's infectious 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:20.039 disease it's all kinds of things that are happening 00:02:20.039 --> 00:02:24.199 within our community it's racism it's ableism 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:27.259 uh it's medical trauma so people who've had trauma 00:02:27.259 --> 00:02:29.759 at the hands of the medical system and so many 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:33.000 relationships that I've forged have had to be 00:02:33.000 --> 00:02:36.060 through that medical trauma and me trying to 00:02:36.060 --> 00:02:38.219 work on healing it even subconsciously without 00:02:38.219 --> 00:02:41.319 really knowing what it was that I was doing now 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:45.000 I have more understanding of it how much um you 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:48.039 know homophobia and fat phobia and all of these 00:02:48.039 --> 00:02:49.639 things that people have been dealing with on 00:02:49.639 --> 00:02:53.080 a daily basis is showing up in all of their relationships 00:02:53.080 --> 00:02:56.319 and their expectations and their world view their 00:02:56.319 --> 00:03:00.120 internalized shame so once i started understanding 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:01.939 that i thought well the modern trauma toolkit 00:03:01.939 --> 00:03:05.439 isn't just about like your nervous system it's 00:03:05.439 --> 00:03:08.689 about all of the systems around us so i i talk 00:03:08.689 --> 00:03:10.629 a lot about all of these things that are impacting 00:03:10.629 --> 00:03:13.050 you in the ways that they might be and then i 00:03:13.050 --> 00:03:15.469 also talk about not just how do we shift our 00:03:15.469 --> 00:03:17.909 nervous system but how do we shift the systems 00:03:17.909 --> 00:03:20.069 that we're in so once we are in that window of 00:03:20.069 --> 00:03:23.169 tolerance that we can cope that we can manage 00:03:23.169 --> 00:03:25.270 what are the systemic level things that we can 00:03:25.270 --> 00:03:29.699 do to heal so um from the first time that i outlined 00:03:29.699 --> 00:03:33.039 my book and i provided um my agent like the outline 00:03:33.039 --> 00:03:35.199 and i said this is the book i really want to 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:38.620 write he said okay let's shop this around and 00:03:38.620 --> 00:03:41.599 we we got a lot of you know really awesome offers 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.599 on it because um i think it just resonated with 00:03:44.599 --> 00:03:46.819 a lot of people and it was so amazing that the 00:03:46.819 --> 00:03:48.900 outline like every single chapter that i proposed 00:03:48.900 --> 00:03:52.020 is exactly what the book turned out to be and 00:03:52.020 --> 00:03:55.560 i wrote it so quickly i actually because I wanted 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:57.759 it to sound really nurturing and safe, I ended 00:03:57.759 --> 00:03:59.780 up dictating a lot of it, because I know that 00:03:59.780 --> 00:04:03.000 when I'm on TikTok, I have a kind of a gentle 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:05.719 way of approaching things. And I also knew I 00:04:05.719 --> 00:04:09.139 wanted to record my own audio book. So like coming 00:04:09.139 --> 00:04:13.639 from that book proposal, sorry, say that again, 00:04:13.719 --> 00:04:17.000 coming from that book proposal to, you know, 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:20.910 the actual writing, and then the reading, it 00:04:20.910 --> 00:04:24.050 was exactly the vision. I had known that. I'd 00:04:24.050 --> 00:04:27.310 been locking it in for so long that it just spilled 00:04:27.310 --> 00:04:29.329 out of me. And yeah, it needed a lot of editing. 00:04:29.550 --> 00:04:35.449 But the original writing was just so emergent. 00:04:35.529 --> 00:04:38.709 It was just inside me. It was so easy to pull 00:04:38.709 --> 00:04:41.649 a string and let it come out. You know, it's 00:04:41.649 --> 00:04:44.069 so interesting as I sit here and I listen to 00:04:44.069 --> 00:04:47.670 you, I am drawn in to what you're talking about. 00:04:47.790 --> 00:04:51.470 And I think that I'm drawn in because, as I mentioned, 00:04:51.589 --> 00:04:54.629 it resonates and relates so much with me. But 00:04:54.629 --> 00:04:57.889 there's a part of me, Christine, that is elated. 00:04:57.889 --> 00:05:01.769 Like I have an excitement inside of me and I'm 00:05:01.769 --> 00:05:05.170 going to get personal, too. I'm so happy that 00:05:05.170 --> 00:05:08.920 I am who I am. Right. Because. And I'm happy 00:05:08.920 --> 00:05:13.279 to have heard those stories and now today understanding 00:05:13.279 --> 00:05:19.920 that I and people are okay being just who they 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:23.139 are, right? And being okay with who you are and 00:05:23.139 --> 00:05:28.000 accepting how you understand and love and really 00:05:28.000 --> 00:05:31.139 know that everything that happens isn't necessarily 00:05:31.139 --> 00:05:34.399 about. us, right? It's about what that individual 00:05:34.399 --> 00:05:36.560 is going through. It's about the story. It's 00:05:36.560 --> 00:05:39.339 about the core deep things that they've gone 00:05:39.339 --> 00:05:42.120 through, and it's not necessarily directed at 00:05:42.120 --> 00:05:45.079 us. And so when it comes to customer service, 00:05:45.180 --> 00:05:48.000 when it comes to mean people, when it comes to 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:51.660 traffic, I can only control what I can do. But 00:05:51.660 --> 00:05:54.500 the reason why we can only control what we can 00:05:54.500 --> 00:05:57.730 do, or I say me, It's because I learned that 00:05:57.730 --> 00:06:01.029 everybody has a story and that everyone has some 00:06:01.029 --> 00:06:04.430 sense of trauma and they're not there yet to 00:06:04.430 --> 00:06:09.029 accept it, understand it. And I would, I mean, 00:06:09.089 --> 00:06:11.550 as I mentioned before, I would have given anything 00:06:11.550 --> 00:06:14.709 to have that conversation with you to check Mark, 00:06:14.769 --> 00:06:18.269 like it's okay to hear these stories because 00:06:18.269 --> 00:06:21.730 it either develops you or it puts you in a, well, 00:06:21.850 --> 00:06:25.629 triggers you to put you in a space where the 00:06:25.629 --> 00:06:28.990 flight. fight or freeze happens. And interesting 00:06:28.990 --> 00:06:33.550 enough, Christine, I ended up leaving. I ended 00:06:33.550 --> 00:06:35.810 up flighting because I didn't understand it. 00:06:35.970 --> 00:06:38.949 And so as you mentioned, being on TikTok and 00:06:38.949 --> 00:06:41.829 so many people resonating with you, I feel like 00:06:41.829 --> 00:06:44.129 I'm one of those people that it would resonate 00:06:44.129 --> 00:06:47.649 with because no one really talks about it. And 00:06:47.649 --> 00:06:50.870 I loved how you explained the pandemic and now 00:06:50.870 --> 00:06:54.050 it's... Still, there's an effect, but then there's 00:06:54.050 --> 00:06:56.629 so much more going on in the world and trauma 00:06:56.629 --> 00:07:00.509 on top of trauma on top of trauma. And it just 00:07:00.509 --> 00:07:04.910 seems like it's ongoing. So it's one of those 00:07:04.910 --> 00:07:08.430 things that if people could have an understanding 00:07:08.430 --> 00:07:12.750 or be able to understand what it looks like to... 00:07:13.819 --> 00:07:17.199 unveil it and be okay with where they were, I 00:07:17.199 --> 00:07:19.519 think that that would be, you know, amazing for 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:21.339 the world in general. You know, like, heal the 00:07:21.339 --> 00:07:26.259 world, make it a better place. Super excited 00:07:26.259 --> 00:07:29.740 about your book. And I know we're a little bit 00:07:29.740 --> 00:07:33.759 over time, but I, again, I've grown and I was 00:07:33.759 --> 00:07:35.980 intrigued by it. Please share with individuals 00:07:35.980 --> 00:07:39.120 where they can get your book from, your website 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:42.000 and your TikTok and other social media handles. 00:07:43.649 --> 00:07:46.189 Before I do, Javanka, I'm just going to say that, 00:07:46.209 --> 00:07:48.509 like in the first chapter of my book, I described 00:07:48.509 --> 00:07:50.649 the difference between resilience and post -traumatic 00:07:50.649 --> 00:07:54.149 growth, and you totally embody that. So this 00:07:54.149 --> 00:07:56.529 is post -traumatic growth. It's like this different 00:07:56.529 --> 00:07:59.829 understanding about yourself and the world. So 00:07:59.829 --> 00:08:02.149 you can learn about that at the Modern Trauma 00:08:02.149 --> 00:08:06.310 Toolkit, which the website is moderntrauma .com, 00:08:06.370 --> 00:08:08.629 which kind of gives you like the... vibes of 00:08:08.629 --> 00:08:11.350 the book it's really nurturing and gentle like 00:08:11.350 --> 00:08:13.449 literally the cursor turns into a butterfly on 00:08:13.449 --> 00:08:16.250 one of the pages um and then the QR code goes 00:08:16.250 --> 00:08:19.029 to a hidden page with audio practices videos 00:08:19.029 --> 00:08:23.910 um a book club guide um and the last I checked 00:08:23.910 --> 00:08:25.750 Amazon had it on sale for like twelve dollars 00:08:25.750 --> 00:08:28.329 so it's it's like a really good deal right now 00:08:28.329 --> 00:08:31.730 um the audiobook is also available uh through 00:08:32.200 --> 00:08:35.179 you know any any website um i also run a company 00:08:35.179 --> 00:08:38.500 called safer spaces training and we engage with 00:08:38.500 --> 00:08:40.440 individuals we're going to be running short courses 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.000 this year as well as companies to learn how to 00:08:43.000 --> 00:08:45.059 be more trauma informed so when you have those 00:08:45.059 --> 00:08:47.759 people in front of you in the public and they 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:50.940 are emotionally dysregulated or manifesting fight 00:08:50.940 --> 00:08:54.059 flight and freeze um what do you do how do you 00:08:54.059 --> 00:08:56.480 recognize it how do you prevent yourself from 00:08:56.480 --> 00:08:59.679 getting kind of regulated in that same direction 00:08:59.679 --> 00:09:02.250 because nervous system states are contagious 00:09:02.250 --> 00:09:05.850 so how do we instead of kind of becoming heightened 00:09:05.850 --> 00:09:08.409 and amplified and intense ourselves how do we 00:09:08.409 --> 00:09:11.409 kind of bring everyone down into like a calm 00:09:11.409 --> 00:09:14.950 what we call parasympathetic state so um because 00:09:14.950 --> 00:09:16.789 i'm working at a systems level i'm trying to 00:09:16.789 --> 00:09:20.669 also do lots of education uh one of my many letters 00:09:20.669 --> 00:09:23.029 behind my name is a master's in medical education 00:09:23.029 --> 00:09:27.159 so My goal is to spread the word through speaking 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:30.740 engagements, through podcasting, just trying 00:09:30.740 --> 00:09:32.700 to get more and more people aware of how trauma 00:09:32.700 --> 00:09:35.220 is showing up in themselves, in their families, 00:09:35.539 --> 00:09:38.379 in their communities, and more importantly, to 00:09:38.379 --> 00:09:42.080 have solutions about it. So many people are aware 00:09:42.080 --> 00:09:45.039 of trauma. You know, Oprah Winfrey. co -wrote 00:09:45.039 --> 00:09:47.679 a book about it a couple years before mine. Gabor 00:09:47.679 --> 00:09:50.279 Maté's in the news. There's so many people who 00:09:50.279 --> 00:09:53.159 are more aware of trauma, but there's not as 00:09:53.159 --> 00:09:55.320 many people talking about, well, now what? What 00:09:55.320 --> 00:09:58.259 do we do? And that's really what I want to get 00:09:58.259 --> 00:10:01.720 out there is the toolkit. Thank you for being 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:03.659 here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in 00:10:03.659 --> 00:10:06.299 to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing 00:10:06.299 --> 00:10:09.360 your reactions as these episodes continue to 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:11.059 move forward. This is going to get more and more 00:10:11.059 --> 00:10:13.379 fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well. 00:10:13.399 --> 00:10:15.320 We'll invite people to participate in the show 00:10:15.320 --> 00:10:17.500 and thank you for giving us your time and attention. 00:10:17.779 --> 00:10:20.419 Have an excellent time building out your vision 00:10:20.419 --> 00:10:21.799 and becoming a vision pro yourself.