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And so the lady gave birth on the flight and

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the flight crew obviously helped with that. And

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so every year they celebrate her birthday. She's

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now 21 years old. And every year Richard Branson

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has a call with her and talks about how things

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are going. And so that process of like, okay,

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things started here with this. Let's honor this

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relationship for the rest of the time. Well,

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Carly, TheBeerBestShow .com, you are now, I think

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my first official guest on the show. I think

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the only other. I think I've done two or three

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episodes and we do so many other episodes for

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other shows. I forget like things like this,

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but you're, you emulate the being your best.

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You do such a, such a great job on vision pros

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life. I was like, Oh my gosh, we're going to

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have more Carly in our life. So thank you for

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joining me for the first guest episode of the

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beer best show. Thanks for having me. I'm looking

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forward to this one. I had a great time on vision

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pros live. So that one was awesome. So I'm looking

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forward to this one too. Oh, it was so, it was

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so fun. It was unforgettable. And we, we kind

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of do the same thing in there. Like we help businesses

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and it's, it reminds me of the relationships

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that the NFL has with the NBA. Right. Or that

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Harvard has with Stanford. Like there's people

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who think they're enemies, but in reality, like

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they grow and build so much. because of the mutual

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respect and because they're constantly exchanging

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ideas and masterminding. And so, yeah, I told

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my team like immediately after that, I was like,

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we've got to find a way to keep Carly in our

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circle. And this is one of the best possible

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ways we could honor that. I really, I can't think

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of anybody by name that I would have also like

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been like, oh, let's reach out to them and make

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sure they're the first. Hence. why we're here.

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So West Coast Growth Advisors, tell us about

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it. I'd love to make sure the audience has some

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context on that. Yeah, absolutely. So basically,

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we're working with businesses, we're helping

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them to scale and grow. We focus on the people

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dynamics. So that's the culture. The leadership

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team, oftentimes, you know, the CEOs and the

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owners as well, making sure that that culture

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is really steady and strong, that you're hiring

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people, we're keeping people on board and they're

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all kind of aligned and inspired with the vision

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and understanding the company, all those dynamics.

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Then we have the strategy component we also focus

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on, which is really fun. You know, we get to

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understand the vision of the companies, the core

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value of a company, right? What's the actual

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strategy look like? What are the goals for the

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next one year, three years, five years, 10 years?

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You know, what's the big goal, right? What's

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your moonshot? What's the big thing that you'd

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love to achieve? And kind of creating the strategy

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around that. We also focus on execution. None

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of that's happening. You can have a good ideas,

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but if you're not executing it properly, it just

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does not happen. And so obviously execution is

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a, is a huge one where we're making sure like

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all the right people are in the right roles.

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Things are getting done. Things are being tracked

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efficiently and effectively. And then we love

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to focus on cash as well because cash really

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is King. And we want to make sure companies have

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healthy cashflow because you really require cashflow

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for growth. So we're really focused on. like

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those four pillars and then on top of that we

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love human behavior you know so we love just

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incorporating that into everything that we do

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on a day -to -day basis because like I mean people

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are your customers people are your employees

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you're a person so it's just constantly coming

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in about understanding human behavior and why

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we do what we do and all these different dynamics

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I love it. I mean, you just gave a masterclass.

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And some of those four points right here, right?

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People, caring about them, strategy, execution,

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and cash flow, and having cash and assets to

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be able to, and knowing how to negotiate, right?

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Knowing how to use and maximize those assets.

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It reminds us so much of like first class business

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too. And those principles are very in line with

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ours. So let's do something unique. I'm going

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to show some types of materials that we use to

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delegate for those who are watching. How do we

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keep up with being our best on our end? And I

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want you, Carly, to just comment on your own

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styles. So it's one thing to claim execution,

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right? And then it's another to bring a brand

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together the way that you have with West Growth

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Advisors and your principles and dedication to

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this. I mean, I can see clearly that you know

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what you're doing with that. But feel free to

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like. We challenge what we have. We're like,

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okay, we do our new assignments. And we use a

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spreadsheet. This is a brand new process that

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we just came out with where instead of me telling

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the team, oh, yeah, we got to do this now. Oh,

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this came up this week. Oh, this came up. Nope.

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We do the assignment to where we assign a supervisor,

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a direct report, a trainee. We have a little

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information in who's in that process, the timeline

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for the project. What do we project? How long?

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When we can start on this? And then the duration

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will be the minute log for how long until? So

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we can get the first piece built out for these

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campaigns. And then each one needs to have description,

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the minutes per day, week or month and the procedure

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resources and templates in order to effectively

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help that trainee. Then it moves over to this

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document where instead of using, I don't like

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Asana, Trello, nothing like that. I've never

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had great success with project management systems.

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And I find that it leads us to micromanage and

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like be taskmasters. or slave drivers. And so

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instead, we designed this process to where our

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team members have columns and they get to go

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at their own pace with basic suggestions of how

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many minutes more or less per day or week. And

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they go one column after the next working on

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their priorities. And if they do anything extra,

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it goes into the extra column. And so some people

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manage that product. That was somebody who was

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newer, somebody who's been at this for a long

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time, like Marie Victoria, who's also COO. She's

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got way more types of activities. And back in

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the day, we still had a lot of things to learn

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about how she's going about managing her day.

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But if I go down to these newer days, how do

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I do that? Sorry, I'm not very good at scrolling

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on spreadsheets. I should have just blocked off

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the dates probably. But you'll start to see a

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balance out of her days in March. where all she

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has to do is mark the category as she did this

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column, she did this column, she did this column.

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And then that gives us a balancing idea of are

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we giving Victoria the space to do the things

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that are most important for her growth first

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in her day? Or am I constantly pulling her off

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of her assignments and assigning her too many

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other things? And when it comes to client management,

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she also puts on here. uh those are inactive

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but which clients did she touch for the day i

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don't need to know the details because she always

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does the right work she knows how to how to build

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her day out so that's that's one of the ways

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that we go about on our side um optimizing the

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the use of time with our different people um

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my did you see that on the screen or did you

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see cynthia's screen while i was talking i saw

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cindy's screen i wasn't sure if you were sharing

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that oh so there's one of my mistakes for the

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day um And we're building the new show and logos.

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Carly's getting through it. And I texted Cynthia

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like, hey, where are you? And now I overlapped

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on it. So those of you watching, just do your

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best. Do the best you can. If you make mistakes,

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it's okay. But I want to get your feedback on

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that. So I'm going to drive right back in just

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a tiny bit. I already said it all. You guys go

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back and listen. But it's pretty easy to see.

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assignments, supervisors, direct reports, trainees,

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and then timeline. The supervisor is only there

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if they're needed. The direct report is only

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there to help the trainee get started on the

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process. And the trainee's job is to help make

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sure that the procedure, resource, and template

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unfolds. And if they get in the challenges, turn

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for help. Once those are done, they can then

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be assigned to a sheet like this. And this is

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what I was referring to in Maria Victoria's days,

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where They're supposed to go column to column

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and have their columns organized for themselves,

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by themselves, based on their priorities with

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an emphasis on personal development and career

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growth. And so we want to make sure they do that

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first. But if I've come in or somebody else has

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come in to challenge that and we see a trend

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where they're not getting those things done,

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then it's time for us to look at balance and

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say, are we being fair to our team member? And

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if they're skipping things, why are they? Priority

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is not in order. And then over here for client

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type of management, they don't need to touch

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every client every single day. In her case, she's

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a COO. She's got a lot of stuff going on, but

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we can see a track record across all of our team

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members. Who's doing what? What do they need

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help on? If it's yellow, that means it's kind

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of easy to train somebody on. If it's green,

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it's super easy. It can be reassigned to another

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team member. If it's red, that means that they

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still have to figure out their own procedures,

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resources, and templates for it. Or we have struggles

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there. So that's one of the ways we go about

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project management. Anything you'd improve about

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that? Or like, Jackson, this is chaos. You should

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change that. I'd be happy to hear your thoughts.

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How are you guys going about similar execution

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and delegation? Yeah. I think the most important

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thing, like the point that you're driving across

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here is that if you're not organizing this and

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separating it and writing it down in some way,

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shape or form, it does become chaos because usually

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one person or a couple of people wind up being

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overly responsible for too many things and things

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fall in the cracks and someone's going to get

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stressed out and someone's going to be frustrated

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and upset. And it's just, it's chaos. And so

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it's like you said, like, you're like, I don't

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like Asana. I don't love Asana either. We all

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have things we love. I like it better than all

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the other programs. I have to say that I cashed

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in my favorite one because I think about it,

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but I don't like the system. I know there's so

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many different programs. Usually I check in to

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see like if a client likes something already

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and I'm like, what do you use now? Do you love

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it? Like, let's check in there. Usually they

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have something that they're enjoying or already

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incorporated. So I'm not really fussed about

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using whatever they have, but I'm like, but now

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let's figure out how to organize this in your

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system. I tend to lead the witness more. I tend

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to be like, so you have a project management

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system and do you hate it as much as I did? Like,

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I don't want to check in on that. If you hate

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it, like, let's change it. Yeah. But yeah, the

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delegation component is really key. And mainly,

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like, I'll just be working with the leadership

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team. So usually if I'm working with a CEO one

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on one, like the owner and the founder and stuff,

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we'll do that on a one on one basis. And I'll

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kind of guide them through that. Because I find

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often like sometimes CEOs are just involved in

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things they don't need to be involved in. I had

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one CEO I was working with. He was really stressed

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out and I was like, what's going on? Like, you

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seem like way off today. Only to find out that

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they're doing like a task that like human resources

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should do. Like they're trying to dissolve a

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fight between two. you know, lower level employees.

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I was like, what are you doing? And apparently

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I'd been going on for like a few months and I

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was like, what are you doing? Okay. Let's like,

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and he has a whole HR team, by the way. Were

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you watching me a few weeks ago? No, I wasn't.

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And I was like, what are you doing? You're not

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talking about me, are you? No. Yeah. Am I being,

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if I am, stop doing what you're doing. Let your

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team do their job. Let your team do their job.

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So yeah. Making sure that we're passing off the

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responsibility. the important thing with the

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CEO is there's usually something that's very

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important to the CEO and something that they

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love to do within the company and something that

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is the driver of the company and we want to make

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sure that they're focused on those things with

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the leadership team we kind of do it more so

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in a group so what we'll do is we'll go through

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all of the top positions within a company and

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like the top roles in a sense and it's going

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to be a little bit different for different companies

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like some companies might have more of a focus

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on marketing than other companies You know, some

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companies are going to have a restaurant might

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have different titles and jobs than my. Yeah,

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well, totally like a restaurant might not have

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like an A .I. department. Right. We're now we

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have like these larger corporations like an Amazon's

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probably like building an A .I. department. You

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know, it's like Google has an A .I. department.

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As a young executive, I had the bright idea I

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was going to I was going to create the universal

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org chart. Yeah, I thought I was like the most

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brilliant thing in the world. Right. And so I

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start working on this thing for my very narrow

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mindset. And that's when I realized I was like,

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oh, crap. Everybody like restaurants have chefs,

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hotels have bellhops and receptions like you

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can't do it. I was like, oh, my idea and concept

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was so naive. uh yeah compared to what is uh

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is done so yeah big big shout out to you and

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um i'll give rocket fuel some credit too that

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they definitely helped me on on figuring some

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of that out thanks to the email as well for for

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helping on the process like it's it's such a

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hard reality to grasp and then to feel empowered

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to go through that's a really easy component

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of like driving uh inferiority complex or like

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that what's that called the easier one the imposter

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syndrome right and it's so having somebody like

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you there who's kind of does that on a regular

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basis or is like very in tune with let's simplify

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this i'm so glad you talked about it because

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i it's almost always it is i can i go to any

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company and it's almost always a disaster the

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the org chart and how they're going about it

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and there's an internal conflict that is just

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like we got to stop we got to stop the civil

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war before we can move everything forward so

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yeah let's go let's go further down that rabbit

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hole yeah no it's totally true and then once

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you dive in there uh you know people it's funny

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because people are sometimes resistant to putting

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stuff like this in the place because it takes

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a lot of time and energy however it's like when

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you start to put the comparison of how much time

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and energy you're taking like from the stress

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and the chaos and then you match it up with oh

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i'll make you spend just as much time and energy

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organizing it and structuring it but you're not

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gonna feel as stressed out and you're not gonna

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be as frustrated and it's like yeah let's do

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it okay so yeah it's a it's a cool dynamic and

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it's like so it's figuring out the roles within

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your company that are most important and you

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know red bull is another fun example because

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if we look at them they have their sports and

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their teams and stuff i'm like i don't have that

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in my company that's not going to be like a specific

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role in my company right so really getting clear

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on what are the most important roles in your

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company and then figuring out like We look at

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what the metrics are for those roles as well.

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And it's like, what do we expect each of those

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roles to achieve, right? Like what are the top

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metrics? There's usually like a top three to

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five priorities in each of those metrics and

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roles and who's in charge of them. And this is

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interesting because we don't want multiple people

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in charge of one section. This is where we start

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to see why the chaos happens. Like you might

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see the CEO in charge of his role, right? But

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then all of a sudden, like the CEO is also involved

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in a CFO role and the marketing role. and all

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this role and you've got the ceo in six different

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places and you're like that's not working right

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and then on that role all of a sudden it's like

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the marketing person is like how did you not

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even make it on the sheet what are they making

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you do what are they making you do all day and

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you look at it you're like okay this is wild

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and so you start to separate the positions so

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that one person is in charge of that role and

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one person is in charge of actually fulfilling

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those metrics and then they're responsible for

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taking that down to their team whatever size

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that is and then that team takes it down to that

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team and that team. And all of a sudden, all

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the little priorities, you know, start to fizzle

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down into little bite -sized pieces. And then

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we have them keep track of that on a daily, weekly,

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monthly basis. And so it's really fun. They're

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doing like meeting rhythms. So every day we have

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like a set way for them to do meetings where

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we're only doing 15 minutes. It's very focused

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and it's just focused on, you know, your quarterly

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metrics for those 15 minutes. And we check in

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to see in that 15 minutes is like, how is the

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team doing? Are they stuck anywhere? You know,

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are they needing help anywhere? Are they moving

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forward? Right. And also a chance to connect.

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So we get a little bit of rapport in there too,

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but short and sweet because we know meetings

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can suck and we don't want to sit there for an

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hour talking about crap. And yeah, we do. Yeah.

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Right. Like, you know, it's true. And they can

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talk like there's there's ways that there's ways

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to combat it. And there's definitely time and

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need for for larger strategic conversations.

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But a lot of times we do end up pigeonholed into

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a meeting that we're not supposed to be in. And

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this mouse pad right here, this book, The Effective

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Executive, is one of my favorites for understanding

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efficient meetings and and getting people to

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realize they're invited, but they're optional.

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and encouraging the optional nature of like,

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go away, go work. We love you and we'll give

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you a report, but you don't have to be here for

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that. I don't have to be here for certain meetings,

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right? Those are super important dynamics. I

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love how you talked about that 15 minute dynamic

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too. And I love that you talked about one of

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the realities that... It's so important to, it

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depends on the level of the business. Some of

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you might have left or freaking out right now.

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Like I don't have a COO and a CMO and a CFO and

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a CTO and a COO and I want to cry now. Like,

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and I get that. I've been there. You know, I

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am the CEO. I am the CMO. Marie Victoria is in

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large part COO, but we do kind of share that

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role. Her in Spanish, me in English. So we've

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got different divisions on that for accountability

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purposes. And the CTO role is like, it's kind

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of filled, but not really. And so how do we dedicate

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ourselves to it? We're not as disciplined to

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the daily aspect, but you're calling me out on

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the things that are important for us to be able

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to take things to the next level. I'll do a quick

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reveal. This is one of our past org boards. And

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I'm actually not sure which our current org board

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is, but I know it's not this one because we got

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people still on here and a lot of people missing.

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We've got almost 30 people on our team now. So

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this is the one I like to reference when I'm

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playing with presentations. But the one that.

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The team actively builds around. I don't remember

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where it's at. And so you'll see my picture is

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on here for these different roles. And if my

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picture is there, I am the point that rocket

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fuel makes is I am fireable from all these positions

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and I should be held accountable to be able to

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complete them. And if we, the moment we have

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a better CEO come in, Oh my gosh, please. You

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know, like I will be so excited to move out of

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that role and move on to the roles where I'm

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truly needed. And right now. That's kind of where

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I'm truly needed for first -class business and

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for the brand. And I'm also one of the podcast

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hosts of Vision Pros Live. I've moved quite far

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away from Vision Pros Live now. We still have

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other people that host the show. We'll grow it.

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But my call is to be on this show. This is my

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environment, my MO. I need to be able to have

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difficult conversations with people. and vision

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pros is designed for starting out visionaries

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and they don't necessarily want to talk about

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the scary stuff and the hard stuff and the like

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how did you actually accomplish what they don't

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know yet um and so i was i was realizing that

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no when i'm over there i need to come in with

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a different type of energy and accepting uh this

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acceptedness and like openness for people over

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here i get to play with people who are ready

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to go for my energy of like high high execution

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you know let's get after it let's really dive

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into what matters and again that's that's why

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i brought you over here so any any uh any optimizations

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that you recommend or things spark that based

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on what you've seen us doing that maybe don't

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even have anything to do with org boards but

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what else would you say jackson i can predict

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this based on where you're at yeah Yeah, definitely.

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And it's, it's making sure I would say the metrics,

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right? Like holding people accountable for very

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specific metrics and the goals, like whatever.

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And you sound like you've got the goals. Let

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me challenge that one. Let me challenge it. I

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want to present the, I'm going to present the

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hidden objectives, objections that people don't

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share. We, we literally were just, we always

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are doing this. We're startup for heaven's sake.

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So we're always establishing the metrics. So

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we got a new Facebook ads campaign. And the Facebook

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campaign, before we launch it, we do establish

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industry benchmark metrics. We figure out what

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those are. And then we assume we're not as great

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as the average in the industry because we're

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new. Let's not be pretentious here. Let's not

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go for the top. Let's make sure we get there

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first. And those become the metrics. So we set

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basic metrics underneath those standards. And

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in this case, our metric for our cost per view,

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we set at three to four cents. And that would

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mean our... our cost per, I'm not going to show

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the screen. It'll take time. But our cost per

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click is set around four to $8 somewhere, somewhere

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between there. Well, we lost the ads and our

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cost per view did not turn out as a three to

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4 cent cost per view because we were dedicated

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to the process of the principles and the building

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and the, the nature of, of, of what drives an

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irresistible, irresistible offer. We got a 0

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.00000. seven cent, like a seventh thousandth

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of a cent cost per click on that. And we ended

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up, I'm sorry, cost per view on that. We ended

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up getting a one cent cost per click, which I

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have never even seen a case study for that before.

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And the other scenario that I want to bring up

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though, is we just assigned somebody the role

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of director of community development. Cause now

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we're starting to move forward with not just

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a podcast, but a community. And I was going to

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put metrics in place, but I realized I don't,

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I don't want her to be numbers driven yet. I

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want the community to be based on let's make

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sure that the we're focused on the standards

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of values and let's learn about other metrics

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that exist out there. Thanks to chat GPT and

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things like that. And then we can start working

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towards establishing those metrics together,

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but we also need to see. And so I said, well,

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What if 10 people join the first week and 20

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people join the second week and three people

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join the next week? It's going to take a little

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bit to figure out what the routine is. And I

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don't want to get this community development

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specialist addicted to focus on crushing those

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numbers. Because I want her focus to be on the

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value of the community itself and making sure

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that the community is winning. So help me understand,

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like, how do you rationalize those two things?

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Yeah. So that's your KPI. It's making sure you

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have the right KPI. Because what you specifically

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said that last piece is you want her to focus

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on the value of the community and the value that

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the community is getting. So what is the metric

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to measure what? the community is getting? How

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do you measure what value the community is getting?

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Because that's what's truly important to you.

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When we think about metrics, we can get really

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stuck in financial metrics, but the truth is,

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it's exactly what you want to measure. And if

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your goal is the value that people are getting,

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how do you measure that? Is there questionnaires

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that you can do? And then all of a sudden, that's

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the metric that that person is focused on. They're

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not focused on the numbers. The financial person

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- I did not learn that until this week. I'm so

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glad you're here, technology. It's like, yes,

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now I can say, well, Carly said so. So if Carly

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said so, then I can do this. Yeah, and it's amazing.

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I'm going to show it. Let me know. What do you

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feel about these metrics? So here we've got the

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procedure development, right, for the community

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director. And I think I said something to ChatGPT,

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like, hey, this person likes to have established

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roles. And we need to get procedures and resources

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in place and give them space to develop because

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they're great. They're strong, but they're timid.

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And if we don't set them up with a path for what

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to do week after week after day, then they're

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going to feel like they're not doing the right

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thing. And so ChachiPT just like created the

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plan. And I was like, OK, cool. Awesome. But

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here we are on the metrics. So it says confidence

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and welcoming and engaging new members. consistent

00:24:24.339 --> 00:24:26.680
and meaningful participation in the facebook

00:24:26.680 --> 00:24:31.240
group smooth facilitation of guest expert interactions

00:24:31.240 --> 00:24:34.299
with our community and increased member interaction

00:24:34.299 --> 00:24:38.180
and overall community vitality it feels so fluffy

00:24:38.180 --> 00:24:42.039
i would add to this like what you want your customers

00:24:42.039 --> 00:24:46.500
to experience and feel and then you start doing

00:24:46.500 --> 00:24:49.619
customer surveys to see if they're getting that

00:24:49.619 --> 00:24:53.509
result To value and feel, is that what you said?

00:24:53.630 --> 00:24:57.109
Yeah, like what experience is it? What value

00:24:57.109 --> 00:24:59.970
are they getting from it? What specific value

00:24:59.970 --> 00:25:03.410
do you want them to get? And then make sure you're

00:25:03.410 --> 00:25:05.930
doing customer, the group community, make sure

00:25:05.930 --> 00:25:08.849
you're doing questionnaires in there to ask questions

00:25:08.849 --> 00:25:11.130
to ensure that they're getting those details.

00:25:11.369 --> 00:25:14.410
That one's really important. Yeah. So it's this

00:25:14.410 --> 00:25:17.509
one because you want the value. If the community

00:25:17.509 --> 00:25:19.990
is getting the value that you want them to have,

00:25:20.190 --> 00:25:22.490
you got to ask the people. This is a community

00:25:22.490 --> 00:25:24.509
question. This is your customer question and

00:25:24.509 --> 00:25:27.369
customer surveys. Yeah. I love that. Which is

00:25:27.369 --> 00:25:29.650
so fun, by the way. It's so funny. You're amazing.

00:25:29.809 --> 00:25:31.549
Sometimes they also get things and you're like,

00:25:31.630 --> 00:25:33.769
I did not even think that they were going to

00:25:33.769 --> 00:25:37.190
get that. I'm so glad you said it. We've been

00:25:37.190 --> 00:25:39.930
the quiz funnels we've put on pause because I

00:25:39.930 --> 00:25:41.490
always I always create them and then leave them

00:25:41.490 --> 00:25:44.470
alone. And that's not what you're supposed to

00:25:44.470 --> 00:25:45.990
do with a quiz funnel. You're supposed to implement,

00:25:46.150 --> 00:25:50.529
right? The execution. So we did a superhero quiz

00:25:50.529 --> 00:25:54.190
funnel that will eventually be launching. I designed

00:25:54.190 --> 00:25:58.589
this years ago with Zach Gagnon. He helps us

00:25:58.589 --> 00:26:00.990
with our build outs. He's a guy that comes in

00:26:00.990 --> 00:26:02.670
and saves things last minute when we need it.

00:26:03.210 --> 00:26:07.190
But this process for this quiz will be able to

00:26:07.190 --> 00:26:10.009
like, are you a villain or a hero as an entrepreneur?

00:26:10.770 --> 00:26:13.109
And then it finds you based on the categories,

00:26:13.130 --> 00:26:14.970
like which superhero are you, right? We're going

00:26:14.970 --> 00:26:16.470
to go a little bit viral with this since we launched

00:26:16.470 --> 00:26:19.930
it. But our content strategist, I've told her

00:26:19.930 --> 00:26:22.269
about it. And so she might be picking the torch

00:26:22.269 --> 00:26:25.230
up on this and finally implementing it. But entrepreneurs,

00:26:25.410 --> 00:26:27.950
if you're stuck in these battles and boats, don't

00:26:27.950 --> 00:26:30.250
feel like you're alone. You know, it does take

00:26:30.250 --> 00:26:32.029
a process to pull it together. But there was

00:26:32.029 --> 00:26:35.630
one other thing I wanted to grab here. Oh, I

00:26:35.630 --> 00:26:37.910
opened it. And this is our Spanish quiz. So we

00:26:37.910 --> 00:26:40.380
just launched. ads for our Spanish community

00:26:40.380 --> 00:26:43.259
to find people who are looking for work. And

00:26:43.259 --> 00:26:47.740
all I did was ask ChatGPT, here we go. If I were

00:26:47.740 --> 00:26:50.019
to create a simple survey and quiz to attract

00:26:50.019 --> 00:26:52.519
Latinos to consider a career as a virtual assistant

00:26:52.519 --> 00:26:55.380
and launch the survey with the Facebook ad quiz

00:26:55.380 --> 00:26:59.960
stack, I made that term up, by the way, but ChatGPT

00:26:59.960 --> 00:27:02.880
gets me, you know. What question would be most

00:27:02.880 --> 00:27:06.400
relevant and attractive? I'd like your help creating

00:27:06.400 --> 00:27:08.859
this in Spanish, inviting people to want to take

00:27:08.859 --> 00:27:11.839
the quiz, building the order of questions, and

00:27:11.839 --> 00:27:14.619
the end will ultimately qualify them by saying

00:27:14.619 --> 00:27:16.240
something like, and I don't have to do anything

00:27:16.240 --> 00:27:18.839
proper either, right? I can make this awkward

00:27:18.839 --> 00:27:21.960
and chat GPT will almost get it right. So like,

00:27:22.119 --> 00:27:24.599
hey, you'd be a great candidate for virtual assistant.

00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:27.779
So maybe we ask questions about. Whether they

00:27:27.779 --> 00:27:30.779
have internet access, a computer, a laptop, experiences

00:27:30.779 --> 00:27:33.539
in Facebook, LinkedIn, etc. I don't want to influence

00:27:33.539 --> 00:27:35.279
you too much, though. Please give it your best

00:27:35.279 --> 00:27:36.720
shot. And then afterwards, I had one more thing.

00:27:36.759 --> 00:27:38.700
I said, I'd like to have two questions at the

00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:41.079
end. Why? Because I read it. I was like, oh,

00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:43.819
cool. This is perfect. But if a company was simply

00:27:43.819 --> 00:27:47.960
to pay you for, was willing to pay for you to

00:27:47.960 --> 00:27:49.940
have the equipment necessary to do this type

00:27:49.940 --> 00:27:52.259
of work on a scale of one to 10, one, not at

00:27:52.259 --> 00:27:54.700
all, 10, my dreams come true. How likely would

00:27:54.700 --> 00:27:56.460
you be to consider the opportunity with that

00:27:56.460 --> 00:27:59.009
company? Same thing if you if a company was willing

00:27:59.009 --> 00:28:01.230
to train you to be a podcast host and pay for

00:28:01.230 --> 00:28:02.690
the microphone and camera on a scale of one to

00:28:02.690 --> 00:28:05.450
10, how likely would you be to consider the opportunity?

00:28:05.529 --> 00:28:08.049
And then ChatGPT gave me like everything I need

00:28:08.049 --> 00:28:10.769
for a great quiz. So the reason why I'm mentioning

00:28:10.769 --> 00:28:12.789
that is because you talked about these community

00:28:12.789 --> 00:28:17.529
surveys. Right. And making sure that we are listening

00:28:17.529 --> 00:28:21.170
and hearing people from the get go that that

00:28:21.170 --> 00:28:24.920
I did that today. um right so you're right on

00:28:24.920 --> 00:28:30.539
the same vibe and um element that that i've been

00:28:30.539 --> 00:28:34.799
working on what i've struggled with is uh in

00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.099
the past i've built communities that were ghost

00:28:38.099 --> 00:28:40.660
towns right i'm not great at running community

00:28:40.660 --> 00:28:43.019
and and perhaps it's because i'm spread too thin

00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:46.859
right and i was spread too thin now we're moving

00:28:46.859 --> 00:28:48.759
back towards it because we've got more team members

00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:54.220
involved but what are some things I want to make

00:28:54.220 --> 00:28:57.079
sure the community is not a distraction for entrepreneurs.

00:28:57.740 --> 00:29:01.559
My market is not, hey, let's do a book club and

00:29:01.559 --> 00:29:04.380
dedicate your time to this book club. It's the

00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:07.380
communities that I'm running or want to run are

00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:10.019
for people that I want to be able to come into

00:29:10.019 --> 00:29:12.319
our community, get the value what they need and

00:29:12.319 --> 00:29:14.599
go out. I don't want them to be stuck here posting

00:29:14.599 --> 00:29:18.819
their seventh photo of the day. Again, how do

00:29:18.819 --> 00:29:21.789
you balance that? Any ideas and thoughts? Yeah.

00:29:21.869 --> 00:29:24.430
So this is also unique to each individual. Like

00:29:24.430 --> 00:29:26.869
it sounds like for you, the community is not

00:29:26.869 --> 00:29:29.109
your favorite thing to do. So having someone

00:29:29.109 --> 00:29:31.890
run it is wisdom and delegating it to someone

00:29:31.890 --> 00:29:34.109
who loves it is wisdom. It's funny. I was just

00:29:34.109 --> 00:29:36.950
working with someone else who running communities

00:29:36.950 --> 00:29:39.740
is like. It's just their thing, like period.

00:29:40.059 --> 00:29:42.480
And so when I talk to them, it would be crazy

00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:44.640
for them to delegate that part of the position.

00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:47.599
They'll delegate potentially other parts that

00:29:47.599 --> 00:29:50.079
maybe you're not, or you're really inspired by,

00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:52.400
right? And so it's really making sure. Just put

00:29:52.400 --> 00:29:53.859
me, let me play the guitar in the community,

00:29:53.940 --> 00:29:55.759
you know? Totally, you're like, I'll just do

00:29:55.759 --> 00:29:59.200
that. Yeah, where she just wants to run it. Like

00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:01.180
that's like her thing. And so it's making sure

00:30:01.180 --> 00:30:02.720
if it's your thing, like that's something that

00:30:02.720 --> 00:30:04.920
you can definitely put yourself in the role of,

00:30:04.940 --> 00:30:06.559
but it's not your thing, then it's delegating

00:30:06.559 --> 00:30:09.380
wisely and making. sure again not only you're

00:30:09.380 --> 00:30:11.099
holding yourself accountable for these metrics

00:30:11.099 --> 00:30:13.460
of like what exactly do you want to achieve from

00:30:13.460 --> 00:30:15.500
it but you're also holding other people accountable

00:30:15.500 --> 00:30:18.259
as well um and this is a funny metric by the

00:30:18.259 --> 00:30:20.220
way this one i learned because when we think

00:30:20.220 --> 00:30:22.220
about metrics just to get people out of their

00:30:22.220 --> 00:30:24.440
heads and another cool example of like how metrics

00:30:24.440 --> 00:30:28.579
can go or like in weird ways um walmart wants

00:30:28.579 --> 00:30:32.059
to offer the lowest prices right and so you would

00:30:32.059 --> 00:30:34.299
think maybe that metric would be something financial,

00:30:34.420 --> 00:30:36.460
right? One of the metrics that they use to make

00:30:36.460 --> 00:30:38.720
sure they're still offering the lowest prices

00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.420
and not overspending internally within the company

00:30:41.420 --> 00:30:44.859
is via customer complaints. If they're not receiving

00:30:44.859 --> 00:30:47.460
enough customer complaints about their store,

00:30:47.579 --> 00:30:51.539
and the main one is that They can't find stuff.

00:30:51.579 --> 00:30:53.400
There's nobody on the floor to help them find

00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:56.000
stuff. If they don't get those complaints, they

00:30:56.000 --> 00:30:58.539
know that they're overstaffed. They purposely

00:30:58.539 --> 00:31:02.240
have less staff at a Walmart specifically to

00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:04.559
make sure that their overhead is lower so you

00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.460
get the best prices. No joke. And so if they're

00:31:07.460 --> 00:31:08.920
not getting enough complaints, they're like,

00:31:09.000 --> 00:31:12.279
this store is overstaffed. And that's wild. That's

00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:16.480
their metric is complaints. I freaking love.

00:31:16.500 --> 00:31:19.059
It's cool. I know it gets better. I know it hurts

00:31:19.059 --> 00:31:21.799
small business. I understand. But I really, really,

00:31:21.839 --> 00:31:25.759
really like it's so easy to go. They've really

00:31:25.759 --> 00:31:28.420
it's amazing how the experience still isn't really

00:31:28.420 --> 00:31:31.859
that compromised. Yeah. Like I don't ever feel

00:31:31.859 --> 00:31:34.710
unsafe. and walmart um yeah i don't feel like

00:31:34.710 --> 00:31:36.869
i can't i feel like i can find things so that

00:31:36.869 --> 00:31:39.069
but that that that level of efficiency that is

00:31:39.069 --> 00:31:41.710
such a brilliant hack to be able to put in the

00:31:41.710 --> 00:31:44.650
place and it's to me again you can manipulate

00:31:44.650 --> 00:31:46.349
and abuse that to the point where you're providing

00:31:46.349 --> 00:31:49.049
bad service but there's a difference between

00:31:49.049 --> 00:31:52.099
biting providing bad service And feeling like

00:31:52.099 --> 00:31:54.839
everybody has to have a five star experience.

00:31:54.920 --> 00:31:56.759
And that's coming from the guy who runs first

00:31:56.759 --> 00:31:58.500
class business. Like, I don't want anybody to

00:31:58.500 --> 00:32:00.740
have a second class experience in my brand. But

00:32:00.740 --> 00:32:02.519
if somebody comes in and is like, where are the

00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:04.359
white gloves? And why are you not wearing a suit

00:32:04.359 --> 00:32:07.099
and tie? I'm like, your definition of first class

00:32:07.099 --> 00:32:09.940
is different than mine. Love you. Deloitte's

00:32:09.940 --> 00:32:14.579
that way. That's not what we do at our business.

00:32:14.859 --> 00:32:18.339
And so I'm really, really good. That's huge.

00:32:18.500 --> 00:32:20.829
Okay, I got to ask you a question. lose the time

00:32:20.829 --> 00:32:23.849
because this question huge shout out to trish

00:32:23.849 --> 00:32:27.710
she's on vision pros today and she is newer to

00:32:27.710 --> 00:32:30.069
the world of sharing visions on podcasts and

00:32:30.069 --> 00:32:32.690
it was such a beautiful episode that i'm going

00:32:32.690 --> 00:32:34.410
to again redirect all of you guys like i would

00:32:34.410 --> 00:32:36.329
highly recommend going and hearing trisha's episode

00:32:36.329 --> 00:32:39.769
in a couple weeks when it comes out um but she

00:32:39.769 --> 00:32:41.910
said jackson one of the pre -show questions that

00:32:41.910 --> 00:32:45.250
would be so cool for you to ask would be what's

00:32:45.250 --> 00:32:50.710
something that your guest wants to talk about,

00:32:50.769 --> 00:32:53.309
but they've never gotten a chance to share on

00:32:53.309 --> 00:32:59.869
stage. And I was like, that is such a core fundamental

00:32:59.869 --> 00:33:03.430
reality. How am I doing that as podcast hosts

00:33:03.430 --> 00:33:05.470
in the world more often? So whoever she learned

00:33:05.470 --> 00:33:09.230
that from, just brilliant. Carly, what ones that

00:33:09.230 --> 00:33:11.130
you don't get asked or that you would love to

00:33:11.130 --> 00:33:13.690
share with the audience? That's funny. It's probably

00:33:13.690 --> 00:33:15.549
what I'm obsessed with in day -to -day life.

00:33:15.970 --> 00:33:18.349
What I'm obsessed with is that, you know, we

00:33:18.349 --> 00:33:21.910
all have a destiny, like genuinely, and you don't

00:33:21.910 --> 00:33:24.349
really talk about it and you don't just get to

00:33:24.349 --> 00:33:26.769
share it. And when you connect with it, it's

00:33:26.769 --> 00:33:28.630
like, you know, I was just talking to someone

00:33:28.630 --> 00:33:31.829
yesterday. just they were selling me so I was

00:33:31.829 --> 00:33:33.210
looking for some services they were selling me

00:33:33.210 --> 00:33:34.430
something but they were going through like the

00:33:34.430 --> 00:33:36.990
traditional sort of sales pitch and it's really

00:33:36.990 --> 00:33:39.130
important this is I was I told my husband too

00:33:39.130 --> 00:33:41.170
I was like I really want to share this but I

00:33:41.170 --> 00:33:42.710
don't know if anyone's going to ask me the question

00:33:42.710 --> 00:33:45.069
but it's so important like for people to know

00:33:45.069 --> 00:33:47.710
so it's so funny that you said this yes but it's

00:33:47.710 --> 00:33:49.869
so funny that you're saying this right now and

00:33:49.869 --> 00:33:51.230
the experience was he's going through the sales

00:33:51.230 --> 00:33:53.369
vision at the end of it like I have the objections

00:33:53.369 --> 00:33:55.690
and stuff and then he goes through and he's like

00:33:56.140 --> 00:33:57.559
well, how are you going to achieve your dream

00:33:57.559 --> 00:33:59.759
if you don't have XYZ? And I look at it and I'm

00:33:59.759 --> 00:34:02.240
like, this is my destiny, bro. I was like, whether

00:34:02.240 --> 00:34:05.380
I hire you or not, like this is going to happen,

00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.039
you know? And it's crazy because I just remember

00:34:09.039 --> 00:34:14.380
before I was connected with it, I just, it was

00:34:14.380 --> 00:34:16.719
so easy for me to get on a phone with someone

00:34:16.719 --> 00:34:19.139
and for them to tell me if you don't hire me.

00:34:19.710 --> 00:34:21.409
You're not going to achieve what you want. Where

00:34:21.409 --> 00:34:23.650
now I'm like so connected to these things and

00:34:23.650 --> 00:34:26.570
I'm like, this is my destiny. Like what world

00:34:26.570 --> 00:34:28.389
do you think this isn't going to happen? Like

00:34:28.389 --> 00:34:32.000
you're obviously not my person. And so. Yeah.

00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.039
And the importance of, I know it's hard and I

00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.179
know it takes time because we clear so much noise

00:34:38.179 --> 00:34:40.820
in our head and we clear so many different things

00:34:40.820 --> 00:34:43.539
and dynamics of like subordinations and what

00:34:43.539 --> 00:34:45.500
we should do and what we're supposed to do. But

00:34:45.500 --> 00:34:48.099
man, when you really connect with like that thing

00:34:48.099 --> 00:34:51.800
that you just feel like you're destined to do,

00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:55.000
like it just shapes your life in such a way.

00:34:55.019 --> 00:34:58.380
Like I can't imagine. my life not being connected

00:34:58.380 --> 00:35:00.780
with that and the experiences I get to have and

00:35:00.780 --> 00:35:02.300
just being able to look at someone and just be

00:35:02.300 --> 00:35:04.380
like no I'm gonna get it done like you're not

00:35:04.380 --> 00:35:08.460
my person and yes in what world is that not gonna

00:35:08.460 --> 00:35:11.119
happen like when he said it I was like huh like

00:35:11.119 --> 00:35:13.320
why do you think it wouldn't happen that's crazy

00:35:14.670 --> 00:35:19.570
Right. So nice. To me, I think I could be projecting

00:35:19.570 --> 00:35:22.510
here and I might be assessing wrong vision pros

00:35:22.510 --> 00:35:25.150
and wait, be your besters. I don't know what

00:35:25.150 --> 00:35:26.769
I'm gonna call you guys yet as an audience, but

00:35:26.769 --> 00:35:34.650
Carly is a reflection to me of the years of dedication

00:35:34.650 --> 00:35:37.130
of self -awareness, right? That she's put into

00:35:37.130 --> 00:35:39.489
those exercises and understanding like that it's

00:35:39.489 --> 00:35:44.039
okay. to embrace authenticity um right to embrace

00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:47.739
your as she calls it destiny um we we don't i

00:35:47.739 --> 00:35:49.619
don't like that word but i i like the concept

00:35:49.619 --> 00:35:51.500
right i like exactly everything the way that

00:35:51.500 --> 00:35:53.300
she described it so i'm like cool i can deal

00:35:53.300 --> 00:35:55.659
with destiny with the way that you see it um

00:35:55.659 --> 00:35:59.320
i i see that we i call it foreordained um and

00:35:59.320 --> 00:36:00.960
that's getting technical it's like forget the

00:36:00.960 --> 00:36:03.400
technicalities the point is yeah i was called

00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:05.880
to a very big purpose when i was like 20 years

00:36:05.880 --> 00:36:09.800
old um and it was to help latinos and and little

00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.659
countries and little little um towns throughout

00:36:12.659 --> 00:36:15.320
the world um by becoming a business owner and

00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:17.019
helping businesses i didn't know why i just knew

00:36:17.019 --> 00:36:20.719
i was supposed to do it um and so now i've spent

00:36:20.719 --> 00:36:24.019
the last 14 years sometimes hiding from that

00:36:24.019 --> 00:36:27.420
destiny right sometimes running from it sometimes

00:36:27.420 --> 00:36:31.159
tinkering with it um and the challenge is every

00:36:31.159 --> 00:36:34.920
time i have kind of found myself distracted by

00:36:34.920 --> 00:36:39.070
something else yeah my life does not go as well

00:36:39.070 --> 00:36:41.949
as it should. My life starts to just like rattle

00:36:41.949 --> 00:36:43.829
a little bit. It's like a little earthquake is

00:36:43.829 --> 00:36:47.150
underneath me when I'm not aligned with that

00:36:47.150 --> 00:36:50.449
purpose. Yet when I get myself back on focus

00:36:50.449 --> 00:36:52.730
with it, and as I mentioned the ads, we just

00:36:52.730 --> 00:36:56.449
prioritize launching ads for Latinos to find

00:36:56.449 --> 00:36:58.489
work when we've got a full stack of people and

00:36:58.489 --> 00:37:00.710
we don't need any more people working with us

00:37:00.710 --> 00:37:04.030
right now. And instead of preparing for like

00:37:04.030 --> 00:37:06.190
campaigns related to social media marketing world.

00:37:06.670 --> 00:37:08.809
which is coming up this weekend. I was like,

00:37:08.829 --> 00:37:11.730
no, we need to do this. You know, this is what

00:37:11.730 --> 00:37:14.070
we need to be focused. And it's, it always, when

00:37:14.070 --> 00:37:16.309
I do that, it always leads to better results.

00:37:16.869 --> 00:37:18.989
Even if somebody else comes along and says, well,

00:37:18.989 --> 00:37:22.889
Jackson, that's not aligned with the, and I'm

00:37:22.889 --> 00:37:24.389
not talking about team members, but outsiders

00:37:24.389 --> 00:37:26.469
coming along and saying like, why aren't y 'all

00:37:26.469 --> 00:37:28.210
doing this? Why should, well, y 'all should do

00:37:28.210 --> 00:37:30.349
this. You know, you have to do this. You need

00:37:30.349 --> 00:37:32.730
us. And I'm so grateful for the knowledge that

00:37:32.730 --> 00:37:36.219
no, I need God. And for me, beyond God, I don't

00:37:36.219 --> 00:37:38.139
need anything, even oxygen. If he calls me home,

00:37:38.159 --> 00:37:39.619
he calls me home. It's supposed to be better

00:37:39.619 --> 00:37:44.119
up there anyway. So that's okay. But I hope that

00:37:44.119 --> 00:37:47.179
all of you listening in focus on being your best

00:37:47.179 --> 00:37:49.280
self and that you have recognized, you've seen

00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:51.719
the opportunity to align your best self with

00:37:51.719 --> 00:37:54.559
that destiny or purpose that you're designing.

00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:56.659
Whatever you want to call it. Yeah. Whatever

00:37:56.659 --> 00:38:00.369
word's the best for you. Yeah. yeah but it's

00:38:00.369 --> 00:38:02.090
funny because it's like it's like you just said

00:38:02.090 --> 00:38:04.090
it's like the whole world comes and tells you

00:38:04.090 --> 00:38:06.369
what it's supposed to be and what it's supposed

00:38:06.369 --> 00:38:09.030
to look like and you listen and it's like so

00:38:09.030 --> 00:38:11.429
until you really tap into it you just won't start

00:38:11.429 --> 00:38:13.769
looking at people and being like no that's not

00:38:13.769 --> 00:38:15.630
it like it's definitely not it and they could

00:38:15.630 --> 00:38:18.789
be so convinced that that's it and you could

00:38:18.789 --> 00:38:20.869
just look at them and be like you're definitely

00:38:20.869 --> 00:38:25.039
wrong thank you, but no, thank you. And so it's

00:38:25.039 --> 00:38:27.079
really important to connect with that. And cause

00:38:27.079 --> 00:38:29.579
it's like, when you do, if you come to someone

00:38:29.579 --> 00:38:32.760
like Jackson or myself, then we're coming in

00:38:32.760 --> 00:38:36.000
and it's like, you help expand that dynamic and

00:38:36.000 --> 00:38:38.719
it doesn't, it's not like coming and working.

00:38:38.739 --> 00:38:40.559
And I, I'm going to guess this with you too,

00:38:40.619 --> 00:38:42.440
just based on my experiences with you coming

00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:44.079
and working with someone like us, it's not even

00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:47.820
just like coming in and having us tell you. what

00:38:47.820 --> 00:38:49.639
your vision should look like it's like you're

00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:51.980
gonna i used to i used to pull it out yeah i've

00:38:51.980 --> 00:38:54.159
done that yeah i was like i was like cardone

00:38:54.159 --> 00:38:56.139
i would like tell everybody what you have to

00:38:56.139 --> 00:38:58.559
do and you need to do and i don't look i love

00:38:58.559 --> 00:39:01.280
him as a person but leading like that and i and

00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:03.079
i use him as a poster child because he's created

00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:04.840
a lot of success in what he does i'm not saying

00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:08.320
it's not a successful path but i did not build

00:39:08.320 --> 00:39:10.579
the relationships cultivate the types of relationships

00:39:10.579 --> 00:39:13.739
i wanted when i used to use words like you should

00:39:14.090 --> 00:39:17.110
do this or you have to do this or you need those

00:39:17.110 --> 00:39:20.510
are all controlling words and who am i to control

00:39:20.510 --> 00:39:24.369
another adult human even even non -adult human

00:39:24.369 --> 00:39:27.750
being but it's not my role to think for them

00:39:27.750 --> 00:39:30.949
or to act for them and like you said i see it

00:39:30.949 --> 00:39:34.630
as facilitating it's you could do this we invite

00:39:34.630 --> 00:39:37.690
you to take these steps and as i've learned to

00:39:37.690 --> 00:39:41.250
do that i have i have far more enjoyed my relationships

00:39:42.139 --> 00:39:44.059
with those who get it. And when we have clients

00:39:44.059 --> 00:39:46.199
that need the controlling, like you hear it,

00:39:46.260 --> 00:39:47.699
they'll be like, well, wait, should I do this?

00:39:47.860 --> 00:39:50.840
And my response is, I don't know. Like, should

00:39:50.840 --> 00:39:54.360
you? You're the visionary. You're the one who

00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.000
leads. So again, I don't usually make them feel

00:39:57.000 --> 00:40:00.219
that awkward, but I will help them realize like,

00:40:00.340 --> 00:40:02.400
okay, I understand that you want me to make that

00:40:02.400 --> 00:40:05.639
decision for you. I'm here to make that decision

00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.340
with you. And let's explore it together. And

00:40:09.340 --> 00:40:10.920
that's exactly what I've seen from you, Carly.

00:40:10.940 --> 00:40:13.219
That's exactly why I'm so happy to have you as

00:40:13.219 --> 00:40:16.039
the first guest of the Be Your Best show. And

00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.000
we're going to be adding a trailer later to this,

00:40:19.019 --> 00:40:20.480
my friend. So as you're listening in, though,

00:40:20.519 --> 00:40:22.900
you can always and easily find Carly Pepin through

00:40:22.900 --> 00:40:24.880
Google. I bet you can find her through ChatGPT

00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:27.139
now. You can find her on all the social media

00:40:27.139 --> 00:40:29.780
channels, too. And the West Coast Growth Advisors,

00:40:29.780 --> 00:40:33.400
of course. I think both of us hope that when

00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:36.440
you reach out and you start a friendship. like

00:40:36.440 --> 00:40:40.219
a true, sincere relationship, and that you evaluate

00:40:40.219 --> 00:40:43.820
what your options are. Go look at Deloitte. Go

00:40:43.820 --> 00:40:46.820
look at Virgin Startups, please. If I could work

00:40:46.820 --> 00:40:49.679
with Richard Branson, I would be very happy to.

00:40:49.739 --> 00:40:51.519
Unfortunately, they only take 100 applicants

00:40:51.519 --> 00:40:54.440
per quarter, and you have to have a three -year

00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:57.000
track record that's already awesome. And so it's

00:40:57.000 --> 00:41:00.559
not like I lose anything by you finding out about

00:41:00.559 --> 00:41:03.380
that. I win because then you come in more centered.

00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.519
when you actually want to talk to us. And I think

00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:09.420
that Carly is one of the best people on the planet

00:41:09.420 --> 00:41:12.500
to talk to about business growth. And that comes

00:41:12.500 --> 00:41:15.199
after reading, like I could call Michael Gerber,

00:41:15.280 --> 00:41:17.880
you know, and see if I could, and Patrick Lincione

00:41:17.880 --> 00:41:21.159
of Five Dysfunctions, we will soon, but he's

00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.179
not going to take my call right now. You know,

00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:26.039
Carly did, she showed up, she's here, and she

00:41:26.039 --> 00:41:28.619
has the same types of principles and values of

00:41:28.619 --> 00:41:30.619
some of the best leaders I've ever learned from

00:41:30.619 --> 00:41:33.079
in the world. It's my honor to have you here,

00:41:33.139 --> 00:41:34.659
Carly. Any final thoughts you'd like to share

00:41:34.659 --> 00:41:38.360
before we wrap up? Yeah. Focus on your vision,

00:41:38.420 --> 00:41:41.179
your mission, and really like do the work to

00:41:41.179 --> 00:41:44.019
pull it out and then contact people like us to

00:41:44.019 --> 00:41:46.079
help it get executed. Cause that, I don't know

00:41:46.079 --> 00:41:48.559
about you, but that just vibes me up so hard.

00:41:48.619 --> 00:41:50.579
And I love watching people's vision come to life

00:41:50.579 --> 00:41:55.070
and it's worth it. Absolutely. So go join us

00:41:55.070 --> 00:41:57.010
on Vision Pros. If you heard that and you're

00:41:57.010 --> 00:41:59.469
like, oh, I have a great vision. Go play. Be

00:41:59.469 --> 00:42:01.210
a guest on Vision Pros. And if you want to be

00:42:01.210 --> 00:42:03.590
a guest on the Be Your Best show, just know this

00:42:03.590 --> 00:42:05.710
is actually as fun as this was. The reason why

00:42:05.710 --> 00:42:07.789
it was fun is because Carly's authentic. What

00:42:07.789 --> 00:42:09.809
is awkward is when people want to come on the

00:42:09.809 --> 00:42:11.849
show and I'm like, no, no, we're going to talk

00:42:11.849 --> 00:42:13.730
about the good, the bad and the ugly. There just

00:42:13.730 --> 00:42:16.489
wasn't any need to talk about ugly today. You

00:42:16.489 --> 00:42:20.230
know, it's because we see our like raw mistakes

00:42:20.230 --> 00:42:23.429
and all that as tangible opportunities. And we

00:42:23.429 --> 00:42:25.230
go with the flow and the blessing of that. So

00:42:25.230 --> 00:42:27.090
I hope that inspires some of you to do the same

00:42:27.090 --> 00:42:29.349
and keep being your best. And we'll see you on

00:42:29.349 --> 00:42:31.469
the next episode, everybody. Take care, guys.

00:42:31.489 --> 00:42:31.949
And watch.
