WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.040 please share with me your first, last name, where 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:05.419 you're located, and the name of your business 00:00:05.419 --> 00:00:09.759 and or company. Hi, my name is Dr. Nigel Brayer. 00:00:09.859 --> 00:00:15.179 I'm from Cleveland, Ohio region, and my company 00:00:15.179 --> 00:00:19.219 is myself, and I'm the founder of the Ironclad 00:00:19.219 --> 00:00:24.940 Bladder Retraining System. Nice. Ironclad Bladder 00:00:24.940 --> 00:00:28.960 Retraining System. Yeah. Tell me more about it, 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:32.240 doctor. Sure. So I've been in practice in the 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:37.920 wellness space now for 28 years or so. Exciting 00:00:37.920 --> 00:00:40.920 stuff. So over the years, I've evolved from treating 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:45.259 musculoskeletal problems to digestive issues. 00:00:45.579 --> 00:00:48.039 And the last several years, I kind of stumbled 00:00:48.039 --> 00:00:52.780 upon by accident, shall we say, but there's really 00:00:52.780 --> 00:00:58.770 no accidents. stumbled upon the epidemic really 00:00:58.770 --> 00:01:02.890 that women are suffering from, which is urinary 00:01:02.890 --> 00:01:07.230 incontinence. So I kind of stumbled upon in a 00:01:07.230 --> 00:01:10.870 way such that my wife, with our last child, she 00:01:10.870 --> 00:01:12.930 started having it. And of course, I didn't know 00:01:12.930 --> 00:01:16.209 that. She was afraid to share it. But through, 00:01:16.310 --> 00:01:19.109 I guess, constant annoyance from me i kind of 00:01:19.109 --> 00:01:21.310 got to the bottom of why are you avoiding so 00:01:21.310 --> 00:01:23.909 many of the activities we used to do why are 00:01:23.909 --> 00:01:26.310 you not hiking with us why all these different 00:01:26.310 --> 00:01:28.730 things and you know and obviously an emotional 00:01:28.730 --> 00:01:31.569 moment she shared that she was unable to hold 00:01:31.569 --> 00:01:35.150 her bladder um so i guess being a doctor and 00:01:35.150 --> 00:01:38.109 being a male i guess we like to fix things so 00:01:38.109 --> 00:01:40.969 i took it upon myself to try to figure out well 00:01:40.969 --> 00:01:43.569 how do i get my wife back to doing what she loves 00:01:43.569 --> 00:01:47.439 and then also helping to remove some of the stigma 00:01:47.439 --> 00:01:50.019 that was associated with it. So I started digging 00:01:50.019 --> 00:01:53.000 into my old patient files and started reviewing 00:01:53.000 --> 00:01:55.959 some paperwork from my past female patients, 00:01:56.200 --> 00:01:59.840 ones who had children and ones who didn't. And 00:01:59.840 --> 00:02:03.040 I realized from their intake paperwork that urinary 00:02:03.040 --> 00:02:06.500 incontinence is really a huge problem that had 00:02:06.500 --> 00:02:10.729 never really been addressed. And so as as things 00:02:10.729 --> 00:02:13.409 went along i started doing trial and error different 00:02:13.409 --> 00:02:15.389 types of things to see if i could help my wife 00:02:15.389 --> 00:02:17.930 we went through kegel exercises i referred her 00:02:17.930 --> 00:02:20.990 to a pelvic floor physical therapist all these 00:02:20.990 --> 00:02:24.050 different things and really didn't help her it 00:02:24.050 --> 00:02:27.750 did slightly but nothing really shall we say 00:02:27.750 --> 00:02:30.330 resolved the issue so i looked a little deeper 00:02:30.330 --> 00:02:32.949 and did a lot more research in anatomy and physiology 00:02:32.949 --> 00:02:35.650 and neurology and i came to the conclusion that 00:02:36.199 --> 00:02:39.120 The reason urinary incontinence isn't being resolved 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:42.919 is because the focus has been primarily on the 00:02:42.919 --> 00:02:46.340 muscles and tissues around the bladder. And as 00:02:46.340 --> 00:02:49.439 I started changing my process and helping her 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:51.639 and addressing more what's called the neurologic 00:02:51.639 --> 00:02:54.960 components, and most importantly, the autonomic 00:02:54.960 --> 00:02:57.000 components, which involves what's called the 00:02:57.000 --> 00:02:59.020 sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system 00:02:59.020 --> 00:03:01.300 retraining, that's where we started to get amazing 00:03:01.300 --> 00:03:07.159 results. So with her, We started devising the 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:10.039 protocol. It worked amazingly. And then I started 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.539 asking more of my patients who had these problems 00:03:12.539 --> 00:03:15.460 that I wasn't really addressing prior. And I 00:03:15.460 --> 00:03:17.539 said, hey, I've got this new protocol that we're 00:03:17.539 --> 00:03:20.340 testing out. Would you be open to it? And of 00:03:20.340 --> 00:03:24.439 course, the answer was yes. And eight to 10 out 00:03:24.439 --> 00:03:29.080 of 10 women had full resolution. And so I'm like, 00:03:29.139 --> 00:03:31.020 wow, this is pretty amazing. And then I started 00:03:31.020 --> 00:03:32.919 looking even deeper and saying, well, why don't 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:35.819 women talk to other doctors about this? And I 00:03:35.819 --> 00:03:38.319 realized that there's this huge stigma attached 00:03:38.319 --> 00:03:43.180 to urinary incontinence, a stigma of self -worth, 00:03:43.360 --> 00:03:47.259 of insecurity, of smelling like urine, like all 00:03:47.259 --> 00:03:49.400 these different things you could imagine. And 00:03:49.400 --> 00:03:51.879 I realized, well, the majority of women don't 00:03:51.879 --> 00:03:54.860 because of all the different emotional challenges 00:03:54.860 --> 00:03:59.080 that go with that, shall I say, label. So I kind 00:03:59.080 --> 00:04:01.139 of take it upon myself to break through that 00:04:01.139 --> 00:04:04.659 label so that we can open up the dialogue and 00:04:04.659 --> 00:04:08.479 help people understand that there's valid solutions 00:04:08.479 --> 00:04:12.620 and they're easy. They're non -surgical. They're 00:04:12.620 --> 00:04:16.060 non -medication based. um but it just takes a 00:04:16.060 --> 00:04:17.939 little bit of retraining which is what my system 00:04:17.939 --> 00:04:20.519 was designed for and i did it in my office for 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.399 several years but then i thought okay how do 00:04:22.399 --> 00:04:24.500 i get it to women because i understand that a 00:04:24.500 --> 00:04:26.040 lot of women aren't going to want to talk to 00:04:26.040 --> 00:04:28.060 others about it and they're not going to want 00:04:28.060 --> 00:04:30.019 to talk to their doctors and even if they do 00:04:30.019 --> 00:04:31.399 their doctors are probably going to use this 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:33.699 standard treatment let's use some medication 00:04:33.699 --> 00:04:36.660 let's use a diuretic let's use a beta blocker 00:04:36.660 --> 00:04:39.180 these are different drugs that people use and 00:04:39.180 --> 00:04:41.060 obviously those aren't very attractive so i wanted 00:04:41.060 --> 00:04:44.180 to make it easy and simple that they could really 00:04:44.180 --> 00:04:46.639 do it at home and that's where the ironclad bladder 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:49.939 system came because then it's not the i have 00:04:49.939 --> 00:04:52.860 to have the uncomfortable conversations i have 00:04:52.860 --> 00:04:54.740 to spend the money seeing a doctor i have to 00:04:54.740 --> 00:04:56.540 spend the money getting tests all these different 00:04:56.540 --> 00:04:58.879 things that are barriers i thought if i could 00:04:58.879 --> 00:05:01.360 remove those barriers then it would be a lot 00:05:01.360 --> 00:05:04.120 easier to resolve it and then also to get people 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:07.680 you know control their bladder back Yeah. Yeah. 00:05:08.060 --> 00:05:11.480 I guess, doctor, speaking from a woman's perspective, 00:05:11.699 --> 00:05:15.759 I must admit, we did not. There's two things 00:05:15.759 --> 00:05:18.740 I'd like to admit as a as a woman and who's had 00:05:18.740 --> 00:05:21.000 four children. Sure. I don't know if we could 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:23.220 put a name to it. And I think it was normalized. 00:05:23.360 --> 00:05:25.439 Right. I think it was something that we thought 00:05:25.439 --> 00:05:28.199 was normal after having a kid because we didn't 00:05:28.199 --> 00:05:31.600 get any instructions on having the child. We 00:05:31.600 --> 00:05:33.959 didn't get any after the child. So there was 00:05:33.959 --> 00:05:36.300 no thought process of like, what is this about? 00:05:36.579 --> 00:05:40.319 It was like, OK, you open up your 10 centimeters, 00:05:40.540 --> 00:05:42.740 you go back down and it never really goes back 00:05:42.740 --> 00:05:46.319 down. That's our mindset. Right. And then when 00:05:46.319 --> 00:05:50.540 we normalize things, it's interesting how we 00:05:50.540 --> 00:05:52.480 don't have a conversation of what we believe 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:56.009 to be. normal you know and so for you to bring 00:05:56.009 --> 00:05:58.889 this up and to have this discussion I think is 00:05:58.889 --> 00:06:02.170 very awesome and I guess I could probably say 00:06:02.170 --> 00:06:05.230 for most women that are watching this or some 00:06:05.230 --> 00:06:09.829 we didn't know what to call it also the thought 00:06:09.829 --> 00:06:15.529 process of urinary incontinence came with age 00:06:16.500 --> 00:06:20.639 OK, I'm 46. I would not admit, you know, because 00:06:20.639 --> 00:06:22.779 I'm not old. You know what I mean? I'm not there 00:06:22.779 --> 00:06:25.199 yet. I don't want to I don't want to be prescribed 00:06:25.199 --> 00:06:29.339 a diaper. So at that point, I guess I'm just 00:06:29.339 --> 00:06:33.040 sharing with you the mindset that that I had. 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:35.699 I can I can really speak for myself. So I really 00:06:35.699 --> 00:06:37.980 appreciate you looking further into that. That's 00:06:37.980 --> 00:06:41.560 that's very awesome. What I find really interesting 00:06:41.560 --> 00:06:45.410 in what you just said is. I've spoke to countless 00:06:45.410 --> 00:06:48.370 women and they have that exact same sentiment 00:06:48.370 --> 00:06:51.850 in different words. And so the question is, is 00:06:51.850 --> 00:06:54.949 when we normalize things, we therefore sweep 00:06:54.949 --> 00:06:58.490 it underneath the rug. And then, of course, we 00:06:58.490 --> 00:07:01.750 don't ever look at it and it just sits and festers 00:07:01.750 --> 00:07:04.750 and it affects us in other ways. So just an interesting 00:07:04.750 --> 00:07:08.139 standpoint is if. I always like to see what's 00:07:08.139 --> 00:07:10.860 on television commercials because it kind of 00:07:10.860 --> 00:07:14.860 shows you where problems of people are. And if 00:07:14.860 --> 00:07:17.040 you notice next time you watch a television show 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:20.759 is the adult diaper business is astronomical. 00:07:22.040 --> 00:07:26.060 How many commercials? how much monthly payment 00:07:26.060 --> 00:07:29.180 people are spending every single month to not 00:07:29.180 --> 00:07:32.639 fix anything but just to normalize it like oh 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.639 i guess now i have to put 200 a month in my budget 00:07:35.639 --> 00:07:40.060 for adult diapers isn't that a sad state yeah 00:07:40.060 --> 00:07:44.709 right and and and for That's the solution, right? 00:07:44.810 --> 00:07:46.990 That's my thought process is like, oh, that's 00:07:46.990 --> 00:07:49.189 the solution. There's no solution to saying, 00:07:49.329 --> 00:07:52.009 hey, is there something, you know, up here rather 00:07:52.009 --> 00:07:54.889 than, you know, in the lower body or the pelvic 00:07:54.889 --> 00:07:57.889 area? And of course, Kegels are often stated, 00:07:57.930 --> 00:07:59.970 hey, that's what you start. That's what you do. 00:08:01.069 --> 00:08:03.470 not really sure if it really fixed anything but 00:08:03.470 --> 00:08:07.170 hey we'll try right so at at the end of the day 00:08:07.170 --> 00:08:10.670 um as like you mentioned when those commercials 00:08:10.670 --> 00:08:14.990 come on that is that's that's typically a woman's 00:08:14.990 --> 00:08:19.290 solution and now we can go and do jumping jacks 00:08:19.290 --> 00:08:22.269 and run and ride the bike and do all those things 00:08:22.269 --> 00:08:25.250 uh but looking like we have a diaper on yeah 00:08:25.250 --> 00:08:27.490 you've been making them thinner now dr bryer 00:08:27.490 --> 00:08:32.659 i'm like what i think i'd just rather use a restroom 00:08:32.659 --> 00:08:35.539 on myself rather than wear a diaper you know 00:08:35.539 --> 00:08:39.159 at the age of 46 i i have a question for you 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:43.580 what because of this right this is this is this 00:08:43.580 --> 00:08:48.720 um urinary incontinence What made someone just 00:08:48.720 --> 00:08:51.299 say, just forget it? And I mean, just your thought 00:08:51.299 --> 00:08:53.320 process, right? Because my mind is going, what 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:55.480 was the thought process of someone just saying, 00:08:55.519 --> 00:08:57.940 just put a diaper on them? And why did they put 00:08:57.940 --> 00:09:01.419 it in an age rather than someone that did have 00:09:01.419 --> 00:09:03.779 a child or rather than someone who is younger 00:09:03.779 --> 00:09:08.120 that doesn't understand? So in my reasoning, 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:10.460 and again, I've had the pleasure of meeting a 00:09:10.460 --> 00:09:13.039 lot of people and hearing their stories, is. 00:09:13.629 --> 00:09:16.149 we have to kind of look at the historical process 00:09:16.149 --> 00:09:20.710 of of healthcare in general so healthcare in 00:09:20.710 --> 00:09:24.669 general has a very very um mechanistic point 00:09:24.669 --> 00:09:28.850 of view meaning here's your anatomy this is how 00:09:28.850 --> 00:09:31.450 it's supposed to work if it doesn't work the 00:09:31.450 --> 00:09:34.070 anatomy is flawed we move along and do something 00:09:34.070 --> 00:09:36.460 else We're going to see if we can manipulate 00:09:36.460 --> 00:09:38.580 the function of the anatomy using a chemical, 00:09:38.700 --> 00:09:40.820 which of course is a pharmaceutical of some sort. 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:43.399 If we can't manipulate it to what we want, then 00:09:43.399 --> 00:09:45.539 we're just going to say, hey, it's flawed anatomy. 00:09:46.259 --> 00:09:49.240 Anatomy can't be changed. Let's move along. But 00:09:49.240 --> 00:09:54.580 I guess what's really exciting and hopeful, and 00:09:54.580 --> 00:09:56.899 this is part of my mission, is if I help people 00:09:56.899 --> 00:09:59.940 understand their anatomy, it opens up the entire 00:09:59.940 --> 00:10:04.399 door. um and the whole world of options to resolve 00:10:04.399 --> 00:10:07.000 it so let's just talk about that for a second 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:09.960 is most people might know this but we have two 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:12.340 kidneys on either side of our back off or just 00:10:12.340 --> 00:10:15.200 behind our ribs and there's two tubes that come 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:17.679 out of the kidneys that are called the ureters 00:10:17.679 --> 00:10:19.379 that go to the bladder and the bladder is like 00:10:19.379 --> 00:10:22.259 a balloon okay and then that balloon holds urine 00:10:22.259 --> 00:10:24.360 of course and that balloon is complicated there's 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:26.080 a bunch of muscles that control that balloon 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.679 but for simplicity then there's a straw that 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:31.029 comes out of it And that straw would be called 00:10:31.029 --> 00:10:33.690 the urethra. Now in men, there's two valves. 00:10:33.809 --> 00:10:35.769 There's one right where the straw meets the balloon. 00:10:35.970 --> 00:10:38.370 Okay. It's called the internal sphincter. And 00:10:38.370 --> 00:10:41.049 on the other end of the straw called the external 00:10:41.049 --> 00:10:43.330 sphincter. So there's two with a space in between 00:10:43.330 --> 00:10:46.330 and the prostate. And in women, they have a very 00:10:46.330 --> 00:10:50.970 small straw. And so that valve is about an inch 00:10:50.970 --> 00:10:55.250 long. But what really opened my eyes, because 00:10:55.250 --> 00:10:58.490 I was trained in medical school like everyone 00:10:58.490 --> 00:11:00.529 else, you've got the anatomy, you've got the 00:11:00.529 --> 00:11:02.289 function, you've got the valve, you've got nerves 00:11:02.289 --> 00:11:04.889 that run the valve, big deal, move along. Well, 00:11:04.970 --> 00:11:06.610 when you look at the valve, and this is kind 00:11:06.610 --> 00:11:10.090 of where the solution started to percolate, is 00:11:10.090 --> 00:11:12.830 the innervation, which means the nerve supply 00:11:12.830 --> 00:11:18.320 to that valve, is only 30%. what's called consciously 00:11:18.320 --> 00:11:21.659 controlled. So what that means to you and I is 00:11:21.659 --> 00:11:24.259 your bicep muscle on your arm, when you want 00:11:24.259 --> 00:11:26.720 to flex your muscle, you, you know, you do it 00:11:26.720 --> 00:11:29.100 consciously, right? If you're not consciously 00:11:29.100 --> 00:11:31.220 doing it, unless there's something wrong, it's 00:11:31.220 --> 00:11:33.820 going to just be at rest. Well, what's interesting 00:11:33.820 --> 00:11:37.360 about the valve of the bladder, 30 % is consciously 00:11:37.360 --> 00:11:40.019 controlled. So when you're doing kegels, you 00:11:40.019 --> 00:11:44.960 are using the 30 % to control that muscle. OK, 00:11:45.100 --> 00:11:47.799 well, what about the other 70? And that's kind 00:11:47.799 --> 00:11:49.500 of where I started to scratch my head and look 00:11:49.500 --> 00:11:52.860 deeper into into neurology. Well, the other 70 00:11:52.860 --> 00:11:55.720 is what's called autonomically controlled. So 00:11:55.720 --> 00:11:57.759 what that means is you and I are sitting here 00:11:57.759 --> 00:11:59.980 and if we get excited, our heartbeat goes up. 00:12:00.100 --> 00:12:02.580 You didn't ask it to it just did because you 00:12:02.580 --> 00:12:04.539 needed more blood for your brain and you're getting 00:12:04.539 --> 00:12:06.639 excited. So you move your body around. Well, 00:12:06.720 --> 00:12:09.379 that's autonomically that's back brain stuff. 00:12:09.720 --> 00:12:13.059 OK, well, that means autonomically back brain 00:12:13.059 --> 00:12:16.700 stuff. is controlling your valve so i think of 00:12:16.700 --> 00:12:19.120 it this way is imagine your fist with a straw 00:12:19.120 --> 00:12:21.980 going through it and this the tighter you hold 00:12:21.980 --> 00:12:24.460 that straw that collapses it and it stops the 00:12:24.460 --> 00:12:27.360 flow of water let's say okay but imagine now 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:29.639 you're contracting it for days and months and 00:12:29.639 --> 00:12:34.259 years just think about how um tight and rigid 00:12:34.259 --> 00:12:37.220 and stiff your your fist becomes right so after 00:12:37.220 --> 00:12:40.320 you do it for a while it starts to quiver so 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:43.629 a good example is a lady goes to bend over And 00:12:43.629 --> 00:12:47.549 she, you know, leaks a little bit. Well, when 00:12:47.549 --> 00:12:51.350 that valve is constantly under a state of contraction, 00:12:51.710 --> 00:12:54.809 it loses its ability to relax and contract as 00:12:54.809 --> 00:12:57.450 it should properly. Well, that's an autonomic 00:12:57.450 --> 00:13:00.110 issue based upon what's called the sympathetic 00:13:00.110 --> 00:13:03.370 and parasympathetic nervous system. Meaning when 00:13:03.370 --> 00:13:06.809 your body's under stress from having baby, from 00:13:06.809 --> 00:13:10.029 raising baby, from working full time to juggling 00:13:10.029 --> 00:13:13.320 50 schedules. that stress that affects every 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:15.820 other part of your life is also affecting your 00:13:15.820 --> 00:13:19.100 valve and that's affecting your body's ability 00:13:19.100 --> 00:13:23.100 to control urine so kind of the key to changing 00:13:23.100 --> 00:13:26.379 that is resetting what's called the parasympathetic 00:13:26.379 --> 00:13:29.600 sympathetic balance which goes back to stress 00:13:29.600 --> 00:13:35.919 so if we can retrain the stress response and 00:13:35.919 --> 00:13:39.659 then over time help you reduce that stress response 00:13:39.659 --> 00:13:41.860 not to stop living and go sit on a mountain and 00:13:41.860 --> 00:13:46.919 hum right but but so your life isn't so sympathetically 00:13:46.919 --> 00:13:49.779 stressed fight flight then the bladder starts 00:13:49.779 --> 00:13:53.340 to gain better control now tissue changes too 00:13:53.340 --> 00:13:56.559 there's hormones right hormones shift they change 00:13:56.559 --> 00:13:59.720 tissue so if you address those factors then that 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:02.519 bladder starts to function properly and even 00:14:02.519 --> 00:14:04.659 when it's full even if there's more pressure 00:14:04.659 --> 00:14:07.440 on it you have control over it does that make 00:14:07.440 --> 00:14:10.720 sense Yes, yes, yes. And so it's very interesting. 00:14:10.840 --> 00:14:14.460 I was typing these things down. So it's the autonomic, 00:14:14.460 --> 00:14:21.279 which is the 70%, right? Which is what holds 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.799 on, right? Because it grips and it's the straw. 00:14:23.899 --> 00:14:25.759 I'm thinking of the straw and it grins. Yep. 00:14:25.840 --> 00:14:29.879 And as we are parenting all the roles that we 00:14:29.879 --> 00:14:33.419 fulfill as women, it's often tight, right? It's 00:14:33.419 --> 00:14:36.440 often controlled, right? Not by us, but because 00:14:36.440 --> 00:14:40.200 it's controlled. But then you said when we get 00:14:40.200 --> 00:14:43.039 excited and our heart rate goes up, I think that 00:14:43.039 --> 00:14:46.899 it sort of loosens up. Well, that in my mind, 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:48.840 I'm thinking that's why when we do something 00:14:48.840 --> 00:14:53.340 fun. Everything just happens, right? It's not 00:14:53.340 --> 00:14:56.139 doing it while we're chasing the kids or, you 00:14:56.139 --> 00:14:58.360 know, we're cleaning the kitchen or we're doing 00:14:58.360 --> 00:15:02.259 anything else. And so I guess I'm having this 00:15:02.259 --> 00:15:06.879 aha moment in realizing that. The stress that 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:11.419 we have as women and the lifestyle that we live 00:15:11.419 --> 00:15:13.519 and not like that's, you know, it's always bad 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.019 stress. It's just all the roles that we play. 00:15:16.059 --> 00:15:19.399 But the minute that we decide to have fun and 00:15:19.399 --> 00:15:22.500 the minute that we're like free, everything's 00:15:22.500 --> 00:15:27.460 too free, doctor. Wait a minute. What we're paying 00:15:27.460 --> 00:15:31.139 for to do now, our body is taking full control. 00:15:31.360 --> 00:15:35.230 But it's it's almost like. For lack of better 00:15:35.230 --> 00:15:39.309 words, like our body is just releasing like it's 00:15:39.309 --> 00:15:41.889 like, oh, OK, we're in a different environment. 00:15:41.990 --> 00:15:45.090 We don't have to tense up. We can let loose. 00:15:45.110 --> 00:15:49.049 But doctor, as a woman, I'm irritated to hear 00:15:49.049 --> 00:15:53.669 this because we have enough stuff just being 00:15:53.669 --> 00:15:57.019 a woman. You know what I mean? Control the emotions 00:15:57.019 --> 00:16:00.460 and the hormones and not to mention as we get 00:16:00.460 --> 00:16:03.080 older, not to mention having babies and everything 00:16:03.080 --> 00:16:06.480 else. I think that we tend to lose less control 00:16:06.480 --> 00:16:09.940 over things. And now we have to figure out how 00:16:09.940 --> 00:16:13.379 to do something else in order to maintain a normal 00:16:13.379 --> 00:16:17.259 lifestyle. That's challenging. It is. And I guess 00:16:17.259 --> 00:16:19.360 just to take a little of the angst out of your 00:16:19.360 --> 00:16:21.559 voice with that, because you feel like, oh, my, 00:16:21.659 --> 00:16:23.659 another thing I have to add on to my do list. 00:16:23.899 --> 00:16:29.039 This is just. sucks already right so so the solutions 00:16:29.039 --> 00:16:31.919 are simpler than you think and i'll just use 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:35.620 a different example is sympathetic let's just 00:16:35.620 --> 00:16:37.480 kind of take a step back from this topic for 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:39.360 a second and let's just talk about heart disease 00:16:39.360 --> 00:16:41.379 heart disease is the number one cause of death 00:16:41.379 --> 00:16:45.240 in most first world nations what is heart disease 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:48.659 it's what's called a sympathetic dominant disease 00:16:48.659 --> 00:16:51.899 what does that mean it means that after years 00:16:51.899 --> 00:16:54.830 of this fight flight response You and I have 00:16:54.830 --> 00:16:56.789 just been talking about the bladder and the valves 00:16:56.789 --> 00:16:59.269 called sphincters. What about the blood vessels? 00:17:00.269 --> 00:17:03.210 Well, they're doing the same thing. So now imagine 00:17:03.210 --> 00:17:05.650 your blood vessels are constantly constricting 00:17:05.650 --> 00:17:08.710 over decades. And now your heart rate has to 00:17:08.710 --> 00:17:12.069 go up and your heart load has to go up. That's 00:17:12.069 --> 00:17:14.130 what causes heart disease. So we're not talking 00:17:14.130 --> 00:17:19.609 about anything different than undoing how we've 00:17:19.609 --> 00:17:23.460 responded internally to stressors. The only difference 00:17:23.460 --> 00:17:25.700 is, and this is what, again, this protocol is 00:17:25.700 --> 00:17:28.200 about, is our focal point. And I call it our 00:17:28.200 --> 00:17:30.039 million dollar problem. The million dollar problem 00:17:30.039 --> 00:17:31.759 is you can't hold your bladder. So let's fix 00:17:31.759 --> 00:17:34.660 that first. And to fix that, we have to address 00:17:34.660 --> 00:17:37.900 the underlying stress that, oh, by the way, is 00:17:37.900 --> 00:17:39.640 also going to create heart disease later in life. 00:17:39.940 --> 00:17:41.740 So it's not like you got to do a whole bunch 00:17:41.740 --> 00:17:43.960 of different stuff for different problems. This 00:17:43.960 --> 00:17:47.359 is just a different symptom related to one underlying 00:17:47.359 --> 00:17:50.160 problem. So resetting the sympathetic nervous 00:17:50.160 --> 00:17:53.579 system. And more than anything, making a small, 00:17:53.599 --> 00:17:56.619 simple, consistent effort to do so. And that's, 00:17:56.619 --> 00:17:58.460 again, I'm not trying to sell a program, but 00:17:58.460 --> 00:18:00.960 that's what the program is designed for, is how 00:18:00.960 --> 00:18:03.880 do I implement something simple? Because like 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.900 you, Jovenka, is we don't want another overwhelming 00:18:06.900 --> 00:18:09.079 thing that people have to try to fit into an 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:11.660 overwhelming life. We want to give solutions 00:18:11.660 --> 00:18:15.440 that are simple, where it becomes like, I really 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:19.559 look forward to this. process that I'm learning. 00:18:19.680 --> 00:18:21.140 That's not only going to help my bladder, which 00:18:21.140 --> 00:18:23.039 it absolutely will, but it's going to help my 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:25.599 life. It's going to help how I relate to my children, 00:18:25.700 --> 00:18:27.720 how I relate to my coworkers, my significant 00:18:27.720 --> 00:18:30.339 others, all that other stuff. So it's not like 00:18:30.339 --> 00:18:32.460 10 different things I got to do. It's one or 00:18:32.460 --> 00:18:34.480 two things that are going to affect the whole 00:18:34.480 --> 00:18:38.500 cascade of your life. That sounds better. Kind 00:18:38.500 --> 00:18:43.140 of cool. Yeah. Yeah. And, and that's the cool 00:18:43.140 --> 00:18:46.319 part is when you start making those changes, 00:18:46.910 --> 00:18:49.650 it'll start affecting bladder yes it'll start 00:18:49.650 --> 00:18:51.890 affecting how you do things yes but it'll also 00:18:51.890 --> 00:18:54.950 affect how you sleep it'll affect how you know 00:18:54.950 --> 00:18:57.990 you respond to others if you're already if you're 00:18:57.990 --> 00:19:00.769 already wired and stressed then of course when 00:19:00.769 --> 00:19:02.690 others bring more things to you you're more wired 00:19:02.690 --> 00:19:04.549 and more stressed and that affects all those 00:19:04.549 --> 00:19:08.009 interactions and it becomes like a big um just 00:19:08.009 --> 00:19:12.970 built absolutely and it's it's um it's it's it's 00:19:12.970 --> 00:19:15.569 actually really nice to talk about this and i'm 00:19:15.569 --> 00:19:18.170 super excited for those who choose to watch this 00:19:18.170 --> 00:19:20.309 because at the end of the day there's something 00:19:20.309 --> 00:19:22.470 else that we can learn and as i mentioned to 00:19:22.470 --> 00:19:24.670 you before i feel like i'm the audience most 00:19:24.670 --> 00:19:27.690 of the time as i continue to have these conversations 00:19:27.690 --> 00:19:32.130 and for me dr bryer i know what your vision is 00:19:32.130 --> 00:19:34.670 but tell me about your vision with this foundation 00:19:34.670 --> 00:19:39.869 sure so really simply is open the dialogue and 00:19:39.869 --> 00:19:43.740 then the biggest thing is getting an understanding 00:19:43.740 --> 00:19:46.839 of your body so that's kind of my mission the 00:19:46.839 --> 00:19:52.119 protocol is the the how the mission is let's 00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:55.140 help people women in particular of course first 00:19:55.140 --> 00:19:58.000 understand a little bit about their anatomy because 00:19:58.000 --> 00:20:00.240 if you understand how your body works you make 00:20:00.240 --> 00:20:02.880 entirely different choices again i've been at 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:05.279 this long enough to see patients make enormously 00:20:05.279 --> 00:20:09.799 erroneous choices or following following choices 00:20:09.799 --> 00:20:12.000 that other doctors that say have made, but they 00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:14.640 just didn't make any sense, but they didn't make 00:20:14.640 --> 00:20:17.960 sense because the patient doesn't understand 00:20:17.960 --> 00:20:20.440 how their body works. So if I can help people 00:20:20.440 --> 00:20:23.099 understand their anatomy, their physiology, and 00:20:23.099 --> 00:20:24.660 you don't have to be a doctor just enough to 00:20:24.660 --> 00:20:28.420 make good decisions and then give them steps 00:20:28.420 --> 00:20:30.720 to start to improve how they'd all integrate, 00:20:30.920 --> 00:20:33.980 they first are going to get a resolution or great 00:20:33.980 --> 00:20:36.059 improvement to their million dollar problem. 00:20:37.069 --> 00:20:40.269 But it's going to empower them so that they can 00:20:40.269 --> 00:20:41.910 start doing what they love. Because you think 00:20:41.910 --> 00:20:43.549 about how, and I've heard this from countless 00:20:43.549 --> 00:20:47.390 women, their lives become extremely small. So 00:20:47.390 --> 00:20:50.509 we talked about the occasional leak. That's one 00:20:50.509 --> 00:20:52.529 issue that, you know, you can temporarily use 00:20:52.529 --> 00:20:55.509 a pad, etc. But now imagine how it progresses 00:20:55.509 --> 00:20:58.250 to where you can only hold the bladder for, let's 00:20:58.250 --> 00:21:00.289 say, 10 minutes and you got to go to the grocery 00:21:00.289 --> 00:21:03.029 store. and you're worried about smelling a urine. 00:21:03.230 --> 00:21:06.210 Do you see how your life gets really small as 00:21:06.210 --> 00:21:09.750 that builds? So I guess my big vision is empower 00:21:09.750 --> 00:21:13.650 women with some understanding, give them tools 00:21:13.650 --> 00:21:15.549 that not only will help their current problem, 00:21:15.670 --> 00:21:18.710 but will help them live just more stress -free, 00:21:18.750 --> 00:21:20.690 more authentically, have better relationships, 00:21:21.089 --> 00:21:22.970 have better interactions with their kids, their 00:21:22.970 --> 00:21:25.930 family, their life. So that's really my big vision. 00:21:26.619 --> 00:21:30.039 I love that. I love that. And I do have just 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:33.240 one more random question. Sure. What does it 00:21:33.240 --> 00:21:35.819 feel like having this conversation and being 00:21:35.819 --> 00:21:38.819 a man? Sure. I'm glad you asked that because 00:21:38.819 --> 00:21:44.099 I get that one a lot and I didn't choose this. 00:21:44.960 --> 00:21:48.940 And so it's not like I had this. premonition 00:21:48.940 --> 00:21:50.720 from God that this is going to be my mission. 00:21:51.579 --> 00:21:54.460 It's mostly like, and I'll just speak spiritually 00:21:54.460 --> 00:21:57.140 for a second, is most things that have created 00:21:57.140 --> 00:21:59.539 the biggest impact that I've been able to help 00:21:59.539 --> 00:22:02.640 others are problems that appeared to me that 00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:05.519 I felt a deep need to figure out and solve. And 00:22:05.519 --> 00:22:07.359 again, is maybe that's a man thing because we 00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:11.440 like to fix stuff. I'm not sure. But and my wife 00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:14.480 and I talk about this frequently is you're a 00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:17.589 guy. And you're talking about female urinary 00:22:17.589 --> 00:22:20.490 incontinence. Isn't that a barrier? And I guess 00:22:20.490 --> 00:22:24.250 the question is, it might be to some. But my 00:22:24.250 --> 00:22:29.349 thought is, is knowledge starts to soften that 00:22:29.349 --> 00:22:32.950 edge. So I don't come to people say, hey, I can 00:22:32.950 --> 00:22:36.069 fix X, Y, Z. I come to people saying, hey, let's 00:22:36.069 --> 00:22:38.339 take a look at this together. And let's look 00:22:38.339 --> 00:22:40.400 at how all these things work together. And let's 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:44.579 kind of have a dialogue. And I can't truly feel 00:22:44.579 --> 00:22:48.420 how you feel. I can never be a woman. I treat 00:22:48.420 --> 00:22:51.619 many women. And of course, I'm a husband, but 00:22:51.619 --> 00:22:54.279 I can't be a woman. But that's also gives me 00:22:54.279 --> 00:22:57.859 the advantage of to be able to empathize, but 00:22:57.859 --> 00:23:01.799 not actually have to live your pain. I can empathize 00:23:01.799 --> 00:23:04.779 as a male, but I can also keep a little bit of 00:23:04.779 --> 00:23:07.690 a logical perspective saying. if we do this then 00:23:07.690 --> 00:23:10.809 we can do this without being drug into the weeds 00:23:10.809 --> 00:23:12.730 not that i'm not emotional so i'm not going to 00:23:12.730 --> 00:23:15.849 say that but men and women have their strengths 00:23:15.849 --> 00:23:18.210 and weaknesses i think one of the male strengths 00:23:18.210 --> 00:23:21.349 are is they can kind of my woman my wife calls 00:23:21.349 --> 00:23:24.470 it men are waffles and women are spaghetti so 00:23:24.470 --> 00:23:26.490 men can put everything in a little square box 00:23:26.490 --> 00:23:28.789 and work on the box and then when they need to 00:23:28.789 --> 00:23:30.529 work on something else they step out of the box 00:23:30.529 --> 00:23:33.700 and go into another one She said, women are spaghetti, 00:23:33.900 --> 00:23:36.059 all the little strands intertwined together. 00:23:36.740 --> 00:23:39.180 And that's the way they think. And I try to keep 00:23:39.180 --> 00:23:42.079 that in mind. So part of me thinking squarely, 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:46.619 allow me to really focus on this problem and 00:23:46.619 --> 00:23:49.140 then offer solutions without intertangling it 00:23:49.140 --> 00:23:51.539 to all the other things, which can often happen. 00:23:52.259 --> 00:23:57.049 Yes, yes, because. I guess if you have in the 00:23:57.049 --> 00:23:59.309 analogy of your wife, two spaghettis, all we're 00:23:59.309 --> 00:24:04.309 going to do is just entangle even more. So I 00:24:04.309 --> 00:24:06.849 like that. I like the analogy of having spaghetti 00:24:06.849 --> 00:24:11.240 and waffles. Number one, there won't cross. Number 00:24:11.240 --> 00:24:14.000 two, there are two big different things. But 00:24:14.000 --> 00:24:17.160 I love that she said that because that brought 00:24:17.160 --> 00:24:19.740 me a lot of understanding too as well. And I 00:24:19.740 --> 00:24:22.279 know the audience would be, again, have an aha 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:26.019 moment. Thank you so much, Dr. Breyer, for choosing 00:24:26.019 --> 00:24:28.740 to do this, right? I know you've been given a 00:24:28.740 --> 00:24:31.180 vision to do this, but it's also a choice to 00:24:31.180 --> 00:24:33.640 want to do this and then create a foundation 00:24:33.640 --> 00:24:37.599 and a system to helping women with urinary incontinence. 00:24:38.200 --> 00:24:41.640 Thank you so much. If it's OK, would you mind 00:24:41.640 --> 00:24:44.079 sharing the website or your social media handles 00:24:44.079 --> 00:24:47.779 for the audience? Sure. My website is Dr. D .R. 00:24:48.099 --> 00:24:52.460 Nigel and I .G .E .L. B .R .A .Y .E .R. dot com. 00:24:52.619 --> 00:24:54.980 And on there you can learn all sorts of cool 00:24:54.980 --> 00:24:58.140 stuff. We have April 17th. We have a really exciting 00:24:58.140 --> 00:25:00.799 live webinar coming up for ladies. It's free. 00:25:01.380 --> 00:25:04.160 We'll learn a lot. deeper dive into these sort 00:25:04.160 --> 00:25:06.380 of things. We'll talk a lot about hormones. We'll 00:25:06.380 --> 00:25:08.559 talk about stress management, things you can 00:25:08.559 --> 00:25:11.119 do at home. We'll talk about some of the specifics 00:25:11.119 --> 00:25:13.720 of the protocol. So people are welcome to sign 00:25:13.720 --> 00:25:15.420 up. I think we have a waiting list for that sign 00:25:15.420 --> 00:25:18.829 up. So we'd love to. For you to join us. Thank 00:25:18.829 --> 00:25:20.829 you for being here today. I'm really happy that 00:25:20.829 --> 00:25:22.869 you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking 00:25:22.869 --> 00:25:26.130 forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes 00:25:26.130 --> 00:25:27.930 continue to move forward. This is going to get 00:25:27.930 --> 00:25:30.509 more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement 00:25:30.509 --> 00:25:32.630 as well. We'll invite people to participate in 00:25:32.630 --> 00:25:34.809 the show. And thank you for giving us your time 00:25:34.809 --> 00:25:37.109 and attention. Have an excellent time building 00:25:37.109 --> 00:25:39.430 out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself.