1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,440 When you decided and you thought about, hey, I'm about to write this book up of my own experiences, 2 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,360 my ministry journey, tell me about your vision for the book. 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:18,640 Wow. Well, my vision for the book is to help people rebuild their lives after a soul crushing, 4 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:26,720 life altering, disappointment or transition. What I experienced when I was going through mine is 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:35,040 after I finished grieving my losses, what worked for me before didn't work. And I thought to myself, 6 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:40,560 there are other people who have reached a level of success in their lives, who are now finding 7 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:46,240 themselves struggling. I didn't think that that was a new thing and would need to find new tools, 8 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:51,200 new strategies. But at the same time, you know, we're sold a bill of goods, at least in the 9 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:57,600 United States, where, you know, you go to school, you get your degree, you get married, you buy a 10 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,840 home, you have the career, and they don't tell you you're going to have to go to school again. 11 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:06,720 They don't tell you, you might have to get married. And I shouldn't say have to, but you might 12 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:12,800 experience more than one marriage for many reasons. I was divorced and I'm a widow now. 13 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:18,080 Right. And so you go through things multiple times, but not expecting it. You kind of go, 14 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:22,880 I'm, you know, I got married and you're thinking it'll be for life, meaning your life, not the life 15 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,880 of your partner. And you go check, check, check. And then here you are having reached these levels 16 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:34,240 of success, right? Because you check these boxes off, now finding yourself with a whole bunch of 17 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:41,760 empty boxes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm sitting here like, oh, you're preaching to me because 18 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:47,440 at the end of the day, it's crazy because you go through life and then you do, like you stated, 19 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:52,000 you have these certain tools, but it's very interesting. It made me think of a toolbox. 20 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,400 You start off with something super small, right? Because it's cute. It does the basic. It has your 21 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,920 screwdriver, your flat head. And then you get a bigger project, which is something in life that 22 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:08,000 just takes this turn. And now you need a drill and you need this and you need that. So that's where 23 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:13,920 my head went. It's like, okay, sometimes this little box isn't going to deal with something so big. 24 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:19,360 And then you might have to hire someone, which is, you know what, let me find a book. Let me find a 25 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:25,680 book that I can read when I'm alone and I need to try to work on this myself. And so in my mind, 26 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:31,360 that's what I imagine your book to be. So what are some of the tools that you have in the book 27 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:37,920 that can help others? Well, it's amazing what you're saying, because I actually have something that 28 00:02:37,920 --> 00:02:44,240 I call God's creative toolbox. I have God's framework that's a part of God's creative process, 29 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:50,320 things that God used. And so people who are familiar with the Genesis one creation story 30 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:57,200 know that God created by speaking. He spoke things into being, but he spoke different things 31 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:03,200 each day into being. And when you, you know, you, so you'll start with a vision that you'll start 32 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,480 talking about, right? But you will talk about it differently than you talked about your last vision, 33 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:14,880 right? You won't talk about it the same way. And so I, I 100% agree with what you're saying. I also 34 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:20,160 believe that the systems and the structures that you had for maybe your last vision or even your 35 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:26,080 last book, right? Might not necessarily be the processes and the structures that you'll use for 36 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:33,520 this one. And one of the things I found really shocking that was different was my support system. 37 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:39,520 Right? Before my mother was a great support to me and she's still with me, thank goodness, 38 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:46,960 but my mother's 97 years old. And prior to my, my husband passing, I started noticing that our 39 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:54,160 relationship was changing, that I was becoming a support to her more than she was a support to me. 40 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:59,520 And that was fine, but I needed support, right? And if my mother wasn't going to support me, 41 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:06,160 who was going to be my support in this new season? And so I say to people that this, this, 42 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:12,800 the tools that you had before, meaning the people that supported you before might not necessarily 43 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:18,560 support you in the same way. It's not necessarily that they're gone. Yeah. My mother, I feel like 44 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:24,720 is still my greatest cheerleader, right? But she's not the one I go to with all of my problems 45 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,520 anymore because I don't want to stress her out with all of the stuff that I'm dealing with. 46 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:34,880 Yes. And then, so as far as that goes, and you're right, you know, I'd be at that age, 47 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:42,720 I remember knowing or hearing the fact that of course, when you born, you're a baby, but also 48 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:48,880 when the end is coming, you go back to childlike ways. And so I guess we wouldn't depend on our 49 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:56,640 children to care for us. And that has to reverse, which brings so much more or so many more challenges 50 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:04,400 in you that says, okay, that support system is gone. Like you stated, now what? So when, when that 51 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:11,600 occurred and then it took a shift, who was your support system then? At first it was my husband, 52 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:19,360 but one of those unexpected trying losses that I went through was the unexpected death of my husband 53 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:27,440 when he had a heart attack one afternoon while jogging. Wow. My sincere condolences. I can't 54 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:36,080 imagine. And I know that life just, man, it blows up sometimes. And there's, yeah, yeah, I don't know 55 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:42,960 what toolbox could actually fix that, but God, you know, and I think that at that point, that's 56 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:49,600 probably the only security, the blanket, the Kleenex, the everything is all him because no 57 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:56,560 worldly person could have ever fixed your mind to say, Hey, this is, this is for a reason. And as you, 58 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:02,400 when that did occur and now you have a book, where did you find your strength at? 59 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:08,400 Well, it was in the word of God, you know, being a minister and someone who, like I said, I knew for 60 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:14,320 a long time that I would be sharing the word. I call myself a Bible teacher more often than I call 61 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:21,120 myself a speaker was that I went to the word first for myself. I'll just be honest about that. I 62 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,800 wasn't really thinking about how was I going to help anybody else. I needed help Dawn today. 63 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:30,560 And sometimes that's where you are, right? It's just, it's just about me, not because I'm not 64 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:35,680 thinking about other people, but we do really have to take care of ourselves first in order to be 65 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:42,320 a blessing to anyone else. And at that point in time in my life, I wasn't in a position to help 66 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:49,040 other people, but I found in scripture that it wasn't just for me, which is not unusual, right? 67 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:57,360 That after I got my healing and got found that process, I saw a universal applicative application 68 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:05,680 for what I saw in the scripture. Yeah. And, and I'm sure that that, that was the biggest step and 69 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:13,680 thing that you could do in order to rebuilding. And, and I mean, rebuilding is, is long-term that, 70 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,640 I mean, I'm sitting here and at the smile in my head is because I believe and I'm a strong believer 71 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:26,160 in God, but the tingles in my body says that that rebuilding is not easy. And I'm sitting here 72 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,960 thinking as a realtor, which I'm a full-time realtor, we got to start with the foundation, 73 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:38,080 which is God, but building a house and a home is not that easy. So as you continue to do this and 74 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:46,880 you continue to promote your book and still be in ministry, what next? Wow. You know, before I go 75 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:51,200 onto what next, I really want to pick up on what you were just saying about the foundation too, 76 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:57,040 because one of the things I found was that your foundation changes as someone who's in real estate, 77 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:03,360 you wouldn't build the same foundation for every single house. And so that took me to a different 78 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:10,480 stage of my life. And I realized that along the way, and this is not at first, right. I thought I 79 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:15,280 was going to connect with God the way I used to, right. I used to read the Bible for, you know, 80 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:20,400 chapters of the Bible a day. I used to pray for sometimes hours journal, most write multiple 81 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:26,480 pages, but at this stage of my life, you know, I might've only written the date in my journal, 82 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:32,480 right. If I got there reading the Bible, meaning actually looking at words with my eyes, 83 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:40,320 I listened to the Bible, right. Because I couldn't focus enough to, you know, read the Bible. And so 84 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,040 I just want people to know that even your relationship with God, even the foundation, 85 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:50,160 right. Might be different in this new season. It's not that you're not going to have a 86 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,440 foundation. Like you said, you have to have a firm foundation, but it may look and feel different 87 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:02,640 in the next stage of your life than it did in the previous stage of your life. But to answer your 88 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:09,840 question about what's next is I'm actually working on some new products, right. I'm working on a 89 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:18,000 meditation starter kit around exactly what I was just saying, because when I came out of my healing 90 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:23,520 and grieving process, I was having trouble focusing on scripture. And so I said, you know, 91 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:30,640 people need resources that aren't just reading resources, right. And so let me provide some 92 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:35,440 meditation where, you know, today I might only be able to think about God. I might not be able to 93 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,480 read or write, right. Or even talk about God. I might just need to just think about it for a 94 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:46,000 minute, right. And help people in their thought process, because our minds can be a really 95 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:53,280 ugly and negative place after loss. And so to help them focus in more positive and correct ways 96 00:09:53,280 --> 00:10:01,120 about God, along with that meditation starter kit, I'm also creating a prayer routine starter kit 97 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:09,200 that is kind of like a step two to the meditation starter kit. That is awesome. So is it, will it be 98 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:16,800 like a video or is it all going to be audible? It's going to be both video and audio. Yep. And so 99 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:22,880 for those people who like video, right, will have that option. But for people who only, you know, 100 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:27,760 if you're in your car driving and can't really watch, you can listen and it will provide, 101 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:32,240 the meditations will be simply meditations, but the prayer routine starter kit is going to have 102 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:37,520 devotions. It's going to have journal prompts. It'll have some video teachings that will start 103 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:43,280 out that are like a minute, maybe two minutes long, and then gradually get a little bit longer 104 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:50,000 to help people grow and move through the process. Yes. And it's funny because when I started 105 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:55,120 meditating, I always thought it was like a, you can't think about anything else and you're 106 00:10:55,120 --> 00:11:01,360 supposed to be in your zen. And I'm like, I'm not in my zen. I got a headache. I really don't want 107 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,840 to do this, but I'm going to try to focus. So I really love the fact that you said it'll start 108 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:13,920 with some basics and then grow because thereafter there becomes this system that it begins to work 109 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:21,760 for you and not to mention the meditate on the word and having that with you when needed, you know? 110 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:29,200 So I love that for you. So when can we expect that? I'm hoping to have it out this summer. 111 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:35,520 Of course. Yeah, I'm teaching a class at my church this spring, right? And I'm going to 112 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:41,840 share it with them first so that we can perfect it. And cause I want it to be really good when I 113 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,840 share it with everybody, but I'm really hoping that at the conclusion of the class, I'll be able 114 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:53,360 to share it with people this summer. Well, I'm super stoked about it. I love the fact that I get 115 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:59,840 to hear it. And now the audience gets to hear it. Please share with them where they could find any 116 00:11:59,840 --> 00:12:06,000 of your information at, and if you have any social media handles as well. Yes, I'm at dawn man, 117 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:14,400 Sanders.com that's dawn D A W N man, M A N N Sanders S A N D E R S.com. And it's the same on all of my 118 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:23,440 social media handles. I'm on Instagram, Facebook, threads, and LinkedIn. Nice. Well, I thank you so 119 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:29,040 much. I'm super excited about your book. Also, where can you get it at? Oh, you can get it 120 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:34,400 wherever books are sold. It's at Amazon, Walmart, Barnes and Noble, Target, and some, you know, 121 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,800 lots of other outlets as well. Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned into 122 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:44,480 Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move 123 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:48,400 forward. This is going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well. We'll 124 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,800 invite people to participate in the show. And thank you for giving us your time and attention. 125 00:12:52,800 --> 00:13:08,800 Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a vision for yourself.