your wire last time you came on the show but if you have the story that goes with it?
Oh it would be hard to narrow it down to a single story. I hope that I've grown over my lifetime
trying to improve how I look at the world although
sometimes I do feel like I've gotten a bit more cynical as I've gotten older.
I think the most significant part of my life as far as forming my value systems and my ability to
feel confident in what I believe in was the time that I spent in university when I moved away from
all of my roommates and lived in a home completely alone.
I lived there for a little over a year, worked a lot so I spent a great deal of time in the saddle
alone out with cattle and of course horses and so I had a lot of opportunities
to think back over things that happened or in some cases think about what I was going to do
about something that I knew that was coming that would happen. So I was able to think about
what was really important to me in my life and what values in all the people that I had met
because I came from a small town. I'd met a lot of new people there at university and sometimes
people will fool you so I got to spend a lot of time thinking back reflecting over how people
how close they were to who I thought they were when I first met them or how I saw them as a persona
before I knew them and then later reflecting back on what I saw about what they did
when you were actually in action with them or in a setting with them. So for me that was probably
the most formative years in all my life. That's interesting because my college years
and now when I compare the people I saw and met and I've seen the difference in
who I thought they were as well and then who they are now and I'm like huh maybe what I thought
about them maybe it's not the same as who they are sometimes I overestimated sometimes I
underestimated it and it's kind of crazy how that turns out. Thank you for sharing that with us today.
Yeah that's I think that's and that's key you sometimes you have to forgive them and sometimes
you have to forgive yourself when you make a decision about people. That's awesome. Thank you
for sharing that with us today. Absolutely. What would you say that is your goal for being on the
show today? One of the things that I we talked about reflection I think in our in our first
podcast and I don't know that I spent enough time talking about how important it is to actually sit
back in that period of reflection and analyze what the outcomes were of what you did. You can spend
time reflecting on you know how you feel about things. You can spend time reflecting about what
you think that you value but you also need to spend time actually reflecting back on where would I
have been if I had made a different decision or how did the decision that I made impact this person
versus if I had made a different decision what did I think what do I believe now or see might have
happened. It's good to reflect back not just on on your own values but on actually how things that
you've you've done how it actually impacted people. I saw that particularly with students
teachers and students. Teachers don't don't always have time to think back if they very quickly gave
an answer or if they were having a bad day and they snapped at a student. If you don't take the
time to think back why did that student do that or what could I have said that would have impacted
that person differently. You lose that opportunity to grow and you sometimes you can get in the habit
of making the same mistake over and over again and that is costly both for you and for the people
that meet and know. I think I agree with that because the impact you leave with people with
your actions sometimes can be small but sometimes can be very long lasting and it's very I think
important to keep us in check. I think one of the very famous quotes on the show by the founder
Jackson is he keeps saying this quite a bit like your absolute power corrupts absolutely. So if
if you need to have people around you surrounded by you who are who you trust enough with their
opinion who keep you in check and balances where you know that if something is not right
that you don't see because if it's your blind spot you're not going to see it.
So it's very important that you surround yourself with people that actually are able to talk to you
with some radical candor that they can challenge you in ways and help you be the better versions
of yourself. What do you think about that? Yeah absolutely that's true and again that goes back
to taking that quiet time. People that you have around you that you trust you want to be around
you trust you want to think that what they tell you is the truth that's what you've asked for
and sometimes you do have to reflect back and make sure that is that the truth that they said
or is are they telling you what you want to hear and if they're telling you what you want to hear
what is it that they want from you. So it it's always good to look back at their actions based
on what you said or did so that you can and I don't I don't want to use the word good
but you always you constantly have to be aware of if someone says something and they are they
are being honest with you if you doubt that you need to ask them and you know do a little
soul searching spend a little time alone and then go back and say I don't maybe I don't understand
what you why you said that or what what about what you said do you think I need to change how
how can how can I grow based on what you believe that you know after what someone tells you something
why do you think that some leaders actually most leaders that we can hide from funding their vision
and how can those leaders then lean into funding that vision I think you have a very unique story
where you your vision is very different than most people that we encountered and I think you've
you've done a lot to fund it so what would you like to say about that well let me ask you first
how how is it different I think I'm pretty normal so so the the book and the story you
mentioned about education it's different because most people don't go that brave and then they are
not uh they most people have those views but they don't like sharing it openly like you do
I would say I think I think you your vision and the things you have done to fund it is it's
the other day I had a doctor on my show I think it was yesterday he he created this technology
where he can treat mental illnesses not every one of them but very specific mental illnesses through
red light therapy I don't know if you're aware of that like when we go on the sun the rays have
red light in it like I do red light therapy to fight cancer yeah yeah and if there's like there's
like different wavelengths of those red line and there's certain length and most people have access
to like through james or if you can buy equipment for it but that doesn't penetrate deep enough to
completely fix things he his is a is a I think is it a lower or higher I don't know what the science
is but that penetrates deeper through the skull to the problem and actually fixes it or actually
improves things and he he's fighting against insurances he's fighting against big pharma he's
fighting his big companies because even though the technology works no one wants to invest or fund it
because he's going after that big big big companies and I think that's what I think one of the things
you're fighting too if you don't realize it I think you have a big fight ahead of you where
you're fighting the system oh yeah I'm yeah I'm very aware of it I think I think that there's a
lot of people we we have fought for years the system in the food industry I taught years ago
tried to teach healthy eating and I you know I said feed the feed pay your farmer not your doctor
but every time we go to a doctor's office it's here take this medicine here take that medicine
here take this other medicine they don't want to hear about how good food can can exactly change
their life so yeah it I think people don't fund their vision because perhaps it's easier it's
it's it's okay to just keep it you feel motivated you feel um you feel like you're on a mission
you feel like you're going to make a difference but you you might not necessarily be willing to
pay the price of losing friends or being made fun of in some cases and so so people tend
particularly if you're in a career or if you're in a job that requires if you're around a lot of
people and you have to you have to see them every day you have to be in a space with them every day
um it's hard it's hard to make people angry and then sit with them for another seven and a half hours
um so so I think if if people don't fund their vision it's because perhaps they don't want to
give up whatever it is that makes them comfortable so that they can go further to pursue their vision
then how do people lean into what did you do in your case to fund your vision
well I got a little older that certainly helped um it I do think that's part of that willingness
to give up things that comfort level comes with age but part of it also comes from if you pay
enough of a price at some point and you get past that you retreat you reflect you decide whether or
not that other opinion is worth giving up on what your vision is and if you're true to your vision
if you really are on on point with what you're seeking in life that person's opinion or those
people's opinions you realize once you get away from it it doesn't matter it's it's not worth the
price that it would take to give up on your vision to be with them um so I think that's part of it
so um I think that that again reflection comes in get away spend time alone
um seek some things that are soothing thoughts a good book some philosophy um perhaps some people
would seek religion um a close friend perhaps but again you risk how close is that friend over time
um so I think the most important thing is to reflect yourself and decide if the price that
you're going to have to pay to move forward is worth your vision and if you're not willing to
pay that price then probably need to do a little reflecting on your vision as well.
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