1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,960 I've seen it on Amazon and I see you have some great reviews. 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,260 I was super excited to see that. 3 00:00:06,260 --> 00:00:08,640 Do me a favor and tell me more about the book. 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,520 Well, the book, so I've had an entire career 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:14,880 in civil engineering, but along the way, 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,300 I accidentally started an ultralight backpacking 7 00:00:18,300 --> 00:00:19,880 gear company, Gossamer Gear. 8 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,900 And through a number of stories, 9 00:00:24,900 --> 00:00:26,520 which are in the book, obviously, 10 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,480 but I got interested in going out backpacking with less weight. 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:32,840 I was involved in Boy Scouts, 12 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:35,720 and the boys, when they cross over, 13 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,120 sometimes haven't hit their growth spurt yet. 14 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:40,200 They're just small guys, 15 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,040 and we're loading them up for a week in the Sierras, 16 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:44,040 and it's a struggle. 17 00:00:45,480 --> 00:00:48,000 So I thought about how could we make these packs lighter 18 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:52,000 and read some, you know, the book that was, 19 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,680 Ray Jardine's book out at the time 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,160 really started the journey. 21 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,720 And so I started sewing my own gear, 22 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:02,960 and it kind of got out of hand 23 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:04,800 and started a company on the side. 24 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,200 I've always worked full-time in civil engineering, 25 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:10,680 so never been paid by the gear company. 26 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,680 But so that as I worked through the years, 27 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,320 actually probably started in 1976 28 00:01:19,320 --> 00:01:21,600 when I graduated high school and rode my bicycle 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,120 4,200 miles across the US 30 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:26,480 to get from the East Coast 31 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,320 to where I live now on the West Coast. 32 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,520 So I realized that at some point that the 50 years, 33 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,040 basically, I'd spent reducing my pack weight, 34 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:39,480 that some of the lessons I'd learned 35 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:40,880 had greater application, 36 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,480 they had application to other areas of life. 37 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:48,280 And so I was eventually pestered into writing a book about it, 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,440 which is what happened. 39 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,080 Wow, and it's, I can't take out of my head, 40 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:54,840 you said I accidentally. 41 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,440 That's so funny because I swear, 42 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:00,920 I think the biggest things in life 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,480 are often on an accident and not very intentional, 44 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,880 must be meant for you to have done this. 45 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:10,760 And so you said you were a civil engineer, 46 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,280 and then if I'm not mistaken, 47 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,040 you said you rode 4,000 plus miles on your bike? 48 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,880 Yeah, for some reason, and I don't know why, 49 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,320 I thought it would be a fun idea. 50 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,200 And actually, it's to date, 51 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,720 the biggest, probably the longest adventure 52 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,160 I've still done almost 50 years later. 53 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,000 And actually, this is kind of exciting. 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,880 You know, thanks to the magic of the internet, 55 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,800 I'm in touch with the three guys 56 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,520 that came along with me on that trip. 57 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:45,160 And we're talking about in 2012, 58 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:50,160 in 2026 will be the 50 year anniversary of that ride, 59 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,000 doing another ride, kind of complete the loop, 60 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,400 ride from the West Coast back to the East Coast. 61 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,440 So we'll see how that goes. 62 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,680 It's early stages, but that would be an exciting, 63 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:05,760 it's probably, one of the guys said 64 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,960 he wants to write a book about that trip. 65 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:09,880 So that would be fun. 66 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,920 I tell you, that's a lot, 67 00:03:12,920 --> 00:03:16,440 but I commend you for that because, 68 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,520 and you're thinking about doing it again? 69 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,800 Yeah, we're talking about it. 70 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,400 And now a couple of guys have said, 71 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,800 50 years almost have gone by, 72 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,440 a couple of guys have said that they may need e-bikes 73 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:32,360 this time around, and they're not as excited 74 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,480 about sleeping in the dirt. 75 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:34,440 At least one has said, 76 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,760 no, this will be hotels for the nights. 77 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,360 Or an RV or something, I don't know. 78 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,200 We're still early stages, but be exciting 79 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:48,200 to complete the loop 50 years later. 80 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:49,440 Definitely. 81 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,800 And so interesting enough, after all of your careers 82 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,560 and all of your experiences, 83 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,080 you write this book, Take Less, Do More, 84 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:02,760 Surprising Life Lessons in Generosity, Gratitude, Curiosity. 85 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,960 Please share with me what made you focus 86 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,560 on those life lessons. 87 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,440 Well, there are a number, 88 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,400 and writing a book is the first time I've done this, 89 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:19,320 and it was an interesting process, 90 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,040 coming up with the title and the subtitle. 91 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:27,040 And those seem to be, we had a number of go-arounds 92 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,920 with the publishers, but those seem to be 93 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:35,360 good summary characteristics, things that 94 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:40,360 were interesting to people, maybe not typical. 95 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,600 I mean, there's a lot of books on gratitude. 96 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,280 I guess there's a lot of books on all those. 97 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:49,440 It's staggering, walking into a bookstore, 98 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:53,120 it's like, no wonder no one makes money writing a book. 99 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,200 It's like, there's billions of them out there. 100 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:57,920 And that's just in a bookstore, 101 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:00,280 that's not counting the internet. 102 00:05:00,280 --> 00:05:05,280 But it was a fun process, and I enjoy the people that I meet, 103 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,640 met along the way, I've got some new friends 104 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,640 at the publisher, and the publicist, and podcast hosts. 105 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,360 There's a number of, there's some podcast hosts that are, 106 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,680 we just connected and they're making plans to visit my house 107 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:25,000 and we're gonna go backpacking, and it's gonna be great. 108 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:25,920 Yeah, you just never know. 109 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,880 I liked what you said about the, 110 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,080 we picked up on the accidental and it's interesting 111 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:33,840 sometimes to think about things that are in your life now 112 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:38,840 and the very thin thread that leads through life to that. 113 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,600 And at any point, if you hadn't met so-and-so, 114 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:44,720 or they hadn't talked about such-and-such, 115 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,000 or you hadn't been wearing that red jacket that day, 116 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,120 or whatever it is, so many little things 117 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:53,680 that these big events turn on, 118 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,640 it makes, to me, it's exciting. 119 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,520 Now when I meet someone new, I'm excited, 120 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,280 because I wonder, oh, do they have some problem 121 00:06:06,280 --> 00:06:08,040 that I'm gonna be able to help solve, 122 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,960 or I know I'm gonna be able to connect them with someone, 123 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,600 or is this someone that I'm meeting 124 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,080 that needs to tell me some truth that I need to hear, 125 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:19,600 or is this someone who's gonna help me with some project? 126 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,040 I've been thinking about doing ABC 127 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,200 and looking for someone that knows something about that, 128 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,080 and I meet this, they might know someone that knows that, 129 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,200 so it's always exciting. 130 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,360 Yeah, as you mentioned it, I got goosebumps, 131 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:37,240 because I love life, like the life that we live 132 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,920 and the things that we can reflect on, 133 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,960 and as you mentioned, that thin thread, 134 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,520 you just never know what's going to happen. 135 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:50,400 And for those that are open, such as you and myself, 136 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,440 to receiving and giving, 137 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,760 a whole bunch of good accidents can happen. 138 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,200 Yeah. 139 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,840 And you are a testament of that, 140 00:07:01,840 --> 00:07:04,760 because when you mention that, and I heard that, 141 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:09,040 and I was like, those are good troubles, good blessings, 142 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,120 good things that can occur out of something 143 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:16,120 you had no clue or love or passion for, 144 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,680 and of course, we wouldn't be Vision Pro's life 145 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:23,840 if I did not ask you to tell me about your vision in this all. 146 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,720 My vision is, I guess in different parts. 147 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,760 At a basic level, my vision is to help more people 148 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:37,600 get outside, and I think there's power in wilderness 149 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,000 and getting away, getting unconnected and unplugged, 150 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:46,240 and creating gear that allows people to do that 151 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,440 more easily with less weight 152 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,120 is why I accidentally started the gear company, 153 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,920 and that's our driving mission to this day. 154 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,880 And then, I guess to expand that to a larger level, 155 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,640 I mean, it's important, I think, 156 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,040 for people to unplug and get outside 157 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:11,120 and give their brains time to unwind and wander, 158 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,200 as it were, to make connections 159 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:18,040 that they didn't have time and energy to make at their desk. 160 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,840 Larger vision is applying that to life in general 161 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:29,560 so that people can have more purpose 162 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,200 and meaning in their lives, to look like you do, 163 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:37,120 look for that next, what's that next connection gonna be, 164 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:41,440 and what awesomeness am I gonna stumble around 165 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,440 in the next corner? 166 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,840 Yeah, it's, and backpacking, 167 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:52,840 I have not ever met anyone that did ultra backpacking at all. 168 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,840 I love the outdoors, so one thing you mentioned 169 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,360 that is definitely something that I could relate to, 170 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,920 and I'm sure many of the people that will watch this, 171 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,880 is the sereneness of being outdoors 172 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,760 and being with the earth, the sounds, 173 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,600 but also I think it's about that generosity 174 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,480 and that gratitude and the curiosity, 175 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,240 actually we wanna be there and do those things, 176 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:22,240 which of course, hence, have the words in your book. 177 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,240 I love that, I love that. 178 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,800 So now that you have this book out, 179 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,040 what has come about? 180 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,400 What new things have you experienced 181 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,960 or new people that you've met? 182 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,400 And that's one of the exciting things, 183 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,440 is new people that I'm meeting through the book. 184 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:42,320 I'm an introvert, so I have to push myself 185 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:44,920 to talk to strangers and things like that, 186 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,560 although I know amazing things happen when I do, 187 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:50,560 but it's still a struggle, 188 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:53,360 I need to push myself to do. 189 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,560 But I've met people in different parts of the world. 190 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,160 We've met, we've actually, 191 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:02,800 I mean, we have friends in Japan, 192 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,640 that are long-term friends, 193 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:07,480 and that's deepened through the book. 194 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,640 But I'm talking to someone about speaking to 195 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,400 like 2,500 people at the Air Force, 196 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:21,640 and that would not have come together without this book. 197 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,000 And just the emails I'm getting from people, 198 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:28,320 it's interesting to me to find the things 199 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:31,400 that they're taking out of the book. 200 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,720 Because let's be honest, there's nothing revolutionary, 201 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,920 I haven't discovered any new secret 202 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,720 to the meaning of life or anything. 203 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:43,720 But people receive things in different words, 204 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:49,720 and at different times in their lives. 205 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,000 And so for some people, the timing of my book 206 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,080 and the words that I chose for the stories that I tell 207 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,760 are colliding and making something meaningful. 208 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,480 Making something meaningful to them. 209 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,000 And so it's exciting to hear those stories. 210 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,960 It's a lot of work, I'm kind of in my mind 211 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:13,960 saying I'll give it a year, so we'll see come April of 25, 212 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,880 how much time and energy I still wanted to devote to it. 213 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,160 But we'll see. 214 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:23,000 Well, Glenn, that's a legacy. 215 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,880 I tell everybody, you can do a podcast, 216 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,640 and yes, it's recorded. 217 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,320 You can do anything, but a book will sit on a shelf 218 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,520 and often be read at the right time for the right people. 219 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,120 So I think that that's amazing. 220 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,920 Do you plan on writing another one? 221 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,560 Well, my standard response is no. 222 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:45,560 Yes, I have to ask you to look at your face. 223 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:47,560 It was a lot of work. 224 00:11:47,560 --> 00:11:51,440 There is actually a project, I mean, the first thing, 225 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:53,880 we're kind of working on some study guides for the book 226 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,280 to maybe like a faith-based study guide. 227 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,600 So small groups could use it, a book club study guide, 228 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,120 maybe a leadership study guide. 229 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,280 But I'm a big fan of handwritten notes 230 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:12,800 and have lots of stories of how things 231 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,760 like those little turning points in those threads 232 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,640 that we talked about, a lot of those 233 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:19,000 have been handwritten notes. 234 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,440 And so, I mean, I can trace lifelong friendships 235 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:28,440 and millions of dollars in deals to a handwritten note. 236 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,720 So kind of rattling my brain, maybe if I get bored with life, 237 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,320 at some point is to write a shorter book 238 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,800 on kind of handwritten notes, 239 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,800 start with like the history of paper and ink and writing 240 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,280 and how it used to be kind of standard practice. 241 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:55,120 It was expected and now with email, 242 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,080 it's so much easier to type something out or text something 243 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,000 and so to actually write something and put it in the mail 244 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:06,000 is a rarity that I think I could bring back. 245 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,800 Yeah, yeah. 246 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:12,080 Interesting enough is I am a real estate agent full-time 247 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,760 and I handwrite my cards. 248 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,240 It just has thank you on it, but I tell you, 249 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,520 I think that there's so much more into handwriting 250 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,760 and I get in my head making sure 251 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,000 that my writing is beautiful. 252 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,680 However, I think it means so much more 253 00:13:28,680 --> 00:13:30,520 and it allows people to see 254 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:32,160 that you've taken the time to do so. 255 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,480 So I do have an understanding of that 256 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,040 and I would love to see that 257 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,960 because that's definitely different, definitely different. 258 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,080 I mean, it's a connection. 259 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,480 The writing is, it physically connects you. 260 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,280 And I mean, I have so many stories about handwritten notes 261 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:53,280 where I've gone to someone's desk that I never met before. 262 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:58,120 I mean, we corresponded and pinned above their desk 263 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:01,480 is a note that I wrote like 10 years ago 264 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,360 and they pinned that like they're looking at it 265 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:04,680 every single day. 266 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:06,760 No one looks at an email every single day. 267 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,480 It's a beautiful, beautiful thing 268 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,960 and you know that it's personal and it's to that person. 269 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,120 So it just means a lot. 270 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,320 When it comes to generosity and gratitude, 271 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:21,480 how does that play a role in the lessons you've learned 272 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,120 in ultra light backpacking? 273 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,400 Well, I think in, you know, when you're on the trail 274 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,320 and you mentioned this backpacking, 275 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,680 it's kind of a different world. 276 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,080 It removes you from this world 277 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,480 and all the conveniences and systems you have. 278 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:41,160 And so in some ways you need to depend more on each other, 279 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,080 the other people out there hiking with you. 280 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,840 You know, if you forgot band-aids 281 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:46,440 and someone has some or something like that, 282 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,400 you can't run to the store. 283 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,000 You have to take care of each other. 284 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,520 And that's interestingly one of the things 285 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:57,280 that I find again and again is resonating with people. 286 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,760 I think most people want to be generous 287 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,240 but don't really, aren't systematic about it. 288 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:10,240 And so early on in our careers, 289 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,280 actually, even before I was married 290 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,280 and that was 42 years ago, 291 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:17,800 I have set aside a separate account, 292 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:19,120 separate checking account 293 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:20,960 and a certain percentage of all my income 294 00:15:20,960 --> 00:15:22,080 goes into that account. 295 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:27,080 And so when, you know, needs come across my path, 296 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,200 I don't need to ask if I have money or not to address them. 297 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,320 I just need to say, well, does this have my name on it? 298 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,160 Yeah. 299 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,360 And if it does, there's money to address that 300 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:38,680 because I've already set it aside. 301 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:42,320 And so that makes sure I'm intentional, 302 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,640 I'm able to address the needs 303 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:49,120 that God's putting in my path for me to take care of. 304 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,640 And, you know, we started with a very small percentage 305 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,480 and now it's quite a large percentage of our income 306 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:56,280 that goes into that. 307 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,720 And, you know, I've got so many stories on that also, 308 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:02,120 you know, I mean, we can, 309 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,360 I mean, someone Francie worked with 310 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,080 and her son made some bad decisions 311 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:07,880 and ended up in prison and died there 312 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,520 and she didn't have money for a funeral. 313 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,720 And, you know, we're able to write a thousand dollar check. 314 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,560 It doesn't make any difference in our lifestyle 315 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:18,560 because that money's already set aside for that kind of thing. 316 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,920 Thank you for being here today. 317 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,400 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 318 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,040 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions 319 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,360 as these episodes continue to move forward. 320 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,040 This is gonna get more and more fun. 321 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,840 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 322 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,960 We'll invite people to participate in the show 323 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,320 and thank you for giving us your time and attention. 324 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:38,040 Have an excellent time building out your vision 325 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:43,040 and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.