1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,320 What is success to you? 2 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:12,040 It's a good question. I think success is different to everyone and I think it depends where you are in life in age 3 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:15,040 Success used to be to me 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,160 It used to be financial. I used to get off on 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,000 The numbers, you know how much I was turning over that made me feel good. That made me feel great 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:30,480 Things have changed now as you get older in life, you know when you set that foundation where you don't have to strive 7 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:33,680 for every dollar a pound to come in 8 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,200 Success for me now is more 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,880 Having the time to spend with family 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,040 My children 11 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,040 We recently got a horse 12 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,000 Which is I've never been into horses, but my daughter 13 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,000 Wanted a horse and just to be the joy that she got 14 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:55,680 And just to be the joy that she gets from that and the family 15 00:00:56,400 --> 00:00:58,400 You know, it's it's really rewarding 16 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,040 I remember I used to work 17 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:04,080 I felt like 25 hours a day eight days a week 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,840 Used to make a lot of money so 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,800 Some people might say you're successful 20 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:17,840 But I wouldn't stop that now for having the time and the work-life balance that comes with that so success for me is 21 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:21,040 It is balance time 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,360 And you know having that comfortable foundation um to go from 23 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:30,000 um 24 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,080 When did you realize that? 25 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,360 The other parts warns and success to you 26 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:37,680 and how 27 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:39,440 well, it's 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:45,040 Another really good question. I remember once my business one of my business partners. He said to me Sean 29 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,840 He said, you know, this was in a different business 30 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,400 He says, you know, you're doing really well. You're working really hard. You're making lots of 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,800 Lots of money 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,800 What and what's it all for? 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,360 I thought it's great. I'm able to 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,360 Give some money to my children help them have a better start in life 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:08,400 Set them up for the future put a nice pension away all of this sort of thing 36 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,880 And he sat there and he listened to me 37 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,280 And he was quiet 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,200 What happens when? 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:19,040 It comes to the age where you say to your kids there's x amount of thousands of pounds 40 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:21,120 you know 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,040 That i've managed to put away and save for you and he says that's great. But what happens when? 42 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,720 They actually look at you and say dad. That's brilliant. Thank you very much 43 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,160 But all we wanted was your time 44 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,400 And it really hit hard because you know a lot of my 45 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:43,600 Life job and profession being from the military and working as a bodyguard previously all my time was away from home 46 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:46,080 You know, so it was a lot of time from home come back 47 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,200 And when he said that it really hits home 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,440 um, so I 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,040 I thought 50 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:55,600 I need to look at this and kind of create some more time 51 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:02,800 And what happened was my business got even more successful so it took more of my time and more of my time 52 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:07,760 and I kind of got sucked in and it was hard to let go because 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,560 The rewards that were coming. I thought you know 54 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,400 I'm not going to be able to make 55 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,640 This money again. It's a a career as a bodyguard is what I was at the time 56 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:20,880 on a shelf life 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:22,880 Like a football player, you know 58 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,280 You're not going to be a 55 year old 59 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:30,320 Striker playing for Manchester United, you know, you've got a shelf life and 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,320 I had to make that money whilst I was there. So I got sucked into it and I made the money 61 00:03:35,760 --> 00:03:37,760 So, you know 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,760 Put money away for the kids, but the thing that changed for me 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,960 And what I see with a lot of people who get hooked on the 64 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,600 The money and the rewards and I was 65 00:03:48,080 --> 00:03:52,080 It's something that happens that totally changes and it could be something like a global event like 66 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,120 COVID it could be losing a family member could be anything and for me my 67 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:02,320 And for me my business service tie network rushing individuals. I think we spoke about this last time 68 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,080 I was on 69 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,600 When russia invaded ukraine, it really hit my business as one client coming a sanction then the next one then the next one 70 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,960 So it was forced upon me 71 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,840 And I do think back to myself now would I have 72 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:18,480 stepped away 73 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,480 To kind of enjoy some of the fruits of my labor 74 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:24,560 I'd like to think yes, I would but I don't know because you kind of get sucked into that 75 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,560 I don't know that 76 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:31,120 The thirst for more and I guess that's where I help people now because i've seen both sides of the fence, you know 77 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:37,360 When you're getting them big rewards and then i've seen the side where you know, you have that bit more time. Maybe you don't make 78 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,400 What the business used to make but 79 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:42,880 I wouldn't trade it in for the world 80 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,240 It's awesome. Thank you for sharing that with us 81 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:52,640 Sean what would you say that is our qualities that you see of a great leader? 82 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,800 That one that you might inspire to be or that you might want your kids to be 83 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,240 I've worked under some great leaders. I've worked under some bad leaders 84 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,160 I like to think 85 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,560 A great leader somebody was a vision 86 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:13,120 Someone who can empower and motivate the team around that vision and then 87 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:16,160 Empower and motivate the team around that vision and common goal 88 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,840 I'm making people feel good at the same time, you know to sort of form a paratrooper and 89 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:29,440 You see different kinds of leaders, you know the carrot in the stick the people that give you that kick up the backside 90 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,120 To get there, you know the people who motivate you in a different way 91 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,040 And i've always seen myself as the kind of leader who will 92 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,840 Lead by example, you know, I would never ask people to do the things that I haven't done 93 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:45,200 You know, I remember in the military you'd have the instructors that would stand at the bottom of the hill 94 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,440 And they'd send you to the top of the hill with the big pack and your rifle above your head 95 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,120 While they'd sit at the bottom and drink a 96 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:54,960 cup of tea 97 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,960 And they're watching you go up and down and up and down 98 00:05:58,160 --> 00:05:58,960 And 99 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,040 Whilst that's current at the link at the time when you you're joining the military 100 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,920 I don't think it honoured 101 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,000 It gone out of respect 102 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:14,320 So when I was in the military, you know, if you've got recruits going up and down the hill you're doing it as well because you're setting that example of what 103 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,040 They should be looking at you, you know 104 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:24,960 If don't do it and so can I if the instructors do it and I think that's what every good leader should do, you know 105 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:27,680 Putting the right people in the right places 106 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,920 Not hogging the spotlight and all of the credibility and 107 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:36,640 Credit for the different wins the team may have it's shining the spotlight on those that 108 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:39,760 Deserve it shined on them 109 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:42,960 Are there any 110 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:47,360 stories related to this this incident that you'd like to share where maybe someone 111 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,880 Did that for you and that made an impact on your life? 112 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,080 I actually remember I worked 113 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,360 For a security company 114 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,880 Back at the time so I was I was a 115 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:06,080 Body got self-employed bodyguard and I used to work with a lot of high net worth 116 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,800 individuals 117 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:15,040 Really famous individuals well-known personalities. I used to work for this company and every time they're big 118 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,840 major clients come in 119 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:23,040 They say like Sean, can you be available to go and work with such and such a person? I agree. Yeah, absolutely 120 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,560 But being self-employed back at the time I only got paid for the days 121 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,280 That I worked and I would invoice for the services I provided for them days 122 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:35,040 And at the time I think it just started 123 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,520 Young family and what I wanted at the time what I crave was stability 124 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,320 And you know regular income when you're first starting out in an industry, it's hard 125 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:46,400 and 126 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:48,640 So used to get put on all of these great tasks 127 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,360 and when permanent type role of permanent contract came up, I'd say 128 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:58,160 I'd really like to be concerned about this opportunity this vacancy 129 00:07:58,960 --> 00:07:59,920 and 130 00:07:59,920 --> 00:08:00,800 I 131 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,600 Remember the guy bringing people in that never worked for the organization and put them on the full-time jobs 132 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,640 so he says Sean, I can't put you on these jobs because 133 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,240 When somebody comes in 134 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:15,600 You know, they're not going to be able to get in 135 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:20,640 When somebody comes in, you know, the wife of such as a person comes in 136 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,520 They all say can I have Sean because they did work with me before because my big skill was 137 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,160 My first impression 138 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,240 You know turned up on time looked the part 139 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,440 with the right gear and 140 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,960 I thought to myself that that's great, but that's 141 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,480 Impacting me 142 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:42,560 Moving forward, you know, I want stability 143 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:44,880 And yes, it's great doing this work for you 144 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:46,960 but 145 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:51,920 It stopped it became a bit of a other a victim of your own success almost 146 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,960 I remember he looked at me and he said, okay 147 00:08:55,680 --> 00:08:57,680 We've got nothing in this week 148 00:08:57,680 --> 00:09:03,920 I want to send you on this this driving course advanced driving blah blah blah go do it. I'm going to pay you to do it 149 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,920 And I thought myself so you're going to send me on this 150 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:12,960 Course you're paying for the course you're paying for the training and i'm doing an employee of you. You know, I'm just a 151 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,000 outside contractor coming in and he says yeah 152 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,360 And then the next time it was a advanced medical course 153 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:23,440 So there were courses around the services that I was delivering at the time 154 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,160 And I just thought to myself, you know that that was great leadership because he seen 155 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,200 Someone who had real value as in the value I was bringing to his team his business 156 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:37,600 And he invested in me and by him doing that 157 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:44,080 It made me want to run through walls on all of the other tasks that I deliver for that company and it's one of the things that 158 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,120 I bought when I formed my 159 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:52,880 Company so it was the same thing all of the guys and girls that I employed. I enjoyed them. I paid well 160 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:55,840 You know a good time off 161 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,560 I invested in their training in their well-being 162 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:04,560 And that's why you know, company grew so rapidly. There's a bit of luck there as well 163 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:07,040 But I think I also you create your own luck 164 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:13,440 You know by putting yourself in more places you give yourself more opportunities for that look or that opportunity to happen 165 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:19,680 And it's just one it was just a great lesson of leadership. I learned you know investing in your people 166 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:23,040 Seating them with respect showing them that you're valued 167 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:30,000 And you know, they'll run through brick walls for you. Oh, it's like I couldn't have said it better. Thank you for sharing that Sean 168 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:32,400 No problem 169 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,120 What would you say? This is the last question for today 170 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,160 What would you say that it is one of the stories that leads to your why? 171 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,720 That that that has helped you solidify your why or connects to your why? 172 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,720 I think in life 173 00:10:50,560 --> 00:10:52,560 Going back to 174 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:54,960 When I went to join the military 175 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:01,920 And I think it was on the video that we watched before we recorded this, you know, I joined I wanted to become a paratrooper 176 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:03,840 and 177 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,160 I remember coming home and speaking to my parents and saying 178 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,880 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry 179 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,520 I'm sorry 180 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:14,480 and I remember coming home and speaking to my parents and saying 181 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,200 I'm going to be a part of I'm going to 182 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:19,680 do this and 183 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,760 There was almost a bit of laughter there from the family I was a you know, I was a typical 184 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,320 Teenage boy, you love playing football computer games all of that sort of thing 185 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:30,480 and I 186 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,480 seen a bit of 187 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,480 Not doubt but a bit of ridiculous, you know 188 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,040 someone a paratrooper 189 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,520 And that got my I thought 190 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,520 Maybe I don't know 191 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:45,360 Maybe stand up a little bit and I thought there's a bit of a seed of doubt there 192 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:47,920 So I had that 193 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,720 Almost because I had to go right. Okay. I am going to be a part of it 194 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:52,880 I'm going to show you and I'm going to do it and 195 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:54,800 So I did that 196 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:01,280 And it was the same so once I became a part of it, the family were really proud. They're like, well, you know, you you did that 197 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,880 Um, but when I decided I was going to leave the military 198 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,400 You know, the family were really proud and I remember all my friends 199 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,560 I remember my dad said to me what are you going to do? 200 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,320 I'm going to become a bodyguard 201 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,760 It was almost like 202 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,280 You're leaving this 203 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,280 Really good career you've got in the military 204 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:21,120 um 205 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:25,200 Who's a bodyguard? You know, it's not a very well-known profession back in the time 206 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,760 And I said, you know, I don't know but I'm going to make it work but it was almost that doubt again that 207 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:32,400 made me 208 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:35,920 Fuel the fire as such and it was the same starting a business. It was almost 209 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:37,760 you just 210 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:39,040 get a job 211 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,600 I was like no i'm going to start this business and I think it was always the 212 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,560 Anywhere where i've been doubted because I believe 213 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,320 And it's why i'm passionate about working with business owners. I think too many business owners work so hard 214 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:54,320 They have a dream 215 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,360 They have a passion, you know, we don't create a business to fail they create it because they want to make it a success 216 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:02,480 and I feel 217 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,480 When you do that 218 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:09,440 Everyone has the tools to make their businesses a success. Maybe they just they take a wrong turn 219 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:12,320 They're not guided correctly 220 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,920 Maybe there's things that they're unfortunate. They're focusing in the wrong areas 221 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,560 But I really feel once you've got that dream that you should be able to 222 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,640 You can achieve that as long as you're consistently taking them steps towards reaching that goal 223 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:30,880 and unfortunately for a lot of business owners when they start and they don't 224 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,000 See that progress quickly 225 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,920 It's it's not that they fundamentally have a bad business idea 226 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,960 Maybe they just run out of runway to make that work because of the the savings they've set aside 227 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,040 Or whatever it is 228 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,840 So I think something like having you know, getting a coach someone who you know, hold you accountable and keep you 229 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,320 on track 230 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,440 It's focusing on the right things. You're giving yourself a lot better chance 231 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,720 Of success, so I guess it's the the story behind my why is 232 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,600 when I felt 233 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:10,240 Doubted it's made me step up and step up to the place step up to the mark and as I've evolved in life 234 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:13,600 I've realized I can achieve things I have achieved things 235 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,640 I feel like now's my time to 236 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:21,280 Give back and inspire that same sort of motivation drive and desire 237 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,400 In others achieving their goals 238 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,600 Yeah, thank you for sharing that shan. Um 239 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,320 Yeah, we all gotta 240 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:35,920 Because if someone has given it to you and someone has given it to me like it's I think it's it should be 241 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:39,760 everyone's desires to give it back to other people because 242 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:46,640 I found it makes people happy. It makes you happy. It's serving others is something that will 243 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,600 Essentially would be the happiest you'll ever be 244 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,400 Is helping and seeing people grow? 245 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,960 Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean one of the things I really changed a lot for me. Um 246 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:01,280 Um attending tony robbins unleashed the power within event in the uk 247 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:07,200 So I heard about tony robbins, but I didn't know a lot about him, but I went to this event in birmingham 248 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,840 I remember just being in an arena with like 12 000 people that were all 249 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,200 on a path of 250 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:23,040 Bettering themselves furthering themselves and just the energy in the room have been surrounded by people who are so like-minded and 251 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,080 um 252 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,000 On a pathway to somewhere better. It just felt amazing. Um 253 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,080 You know, it all had people giving back to others. I just thought it was it and it did it changed a lot 254 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,800 A lot for me moving forward. It's helped me to reshape my business 255 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,640 Change goals that I had um, I just realign everything in my life 256 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,480 You know a story comes to my mind 257 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,520 And it's a very simple story 258 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:59,760 um, I was a i'm born and raised in india and I was in india was visiting a family and 259 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:05,120 This family was from united states and they were in india for I think a few months 260 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:10,960 I think was a trip. I don't know what it was exactly was why were they were there maybe just visiting india for something 261 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,600 and we were having this game nights slash like 262 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,240 Get get together at their at their house and then they shared this story 263 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:22,720 about 264 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:24,560 um how 265 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:26,560 one of the teachers 266 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,480 um and the daughter got knocked up points because 267 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:35,360 um, she wanted to they were giving some candy out and 268 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,560 The the daughter was like can I have two for for my family as well? 269 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,840 They're like why and the teacher couldn't gasp at that 270 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:45,760 and 271 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,480 The story behind the moral was that when you care 272 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:53,840 About yourself, there's one person caring about you, but when you care about everyone else, but you 273 00:16:54,640 --> 00:17:00,400 And there was a family of five or a family of six. So you have five people caring for you rather than one 274 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,440 and I think that's where that's where we all we gotta 275 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:11,440 Come together because I think it's amazing what what can accomplish when you care for other people 276 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,840 Yeah, I'll always remember as a child as well, you know, even as a kid 277 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,360 You absorb so much, you know from parents conversations and things like that and I remember 278 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:22,640 My father being out of work 279 00:17:23,120 --> 00:17:27,920 I remember it was a worry or a strain on the family at the time. I always remember it was a school trip 280 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:35,200 To in Northumberland like a camping trip and it was a couple hundred pound or something for the to send your child 281 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,840 And the whole class went and I remember 282 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,600 The form came home from school for the parents to sign to say yes 283 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:48,400 And I said I don't want to go and I agreed no go go and they were trying to make me go and I didn't want to go 284 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,160 But I didn't want to say it's because I knew I heard the conversations that they were struggling for money and 285 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,040 so it's these things that 286 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,960 even as a 287 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:58,960 seven eight year old kid 288 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:04,160 I felt like I was helping the family support my family by 289 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,440 Not going on a trip. It's a small thing, but 290 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:10,400 Yeah, it makes you feel good 291 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:14,160 Yeah, it makes you feel good when you when you help on that. I think I've always 292 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,120 Sad from being a child, but I think one of the things you said there as well about 293 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,560 You can help in lots of others but 294 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:29,280 Remember you have to look after yourself as well. And sometimes a lot of people forget that they give so much 295 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:32,800 and burn themselves out completely and it is 296 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,560 Very important look after yourself because if we can't look after ourselves 297 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,720 And you can't support them without people also right? Thank you for being here today 298 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,200 I'm really happy that you tuned in to vision pros live 299 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:48,160 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward 300 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,680 It's going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well 301 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:56,080 We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time and attention 302 00:18:56,080 --> 00:19:06,880 Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a vision pro yourself