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How did you get started?

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As far as the individual instruction part,

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I did it after while I was coaching.

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So I did a little bit of training

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while I was coaching college football.

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And then as I transitioned out of football or coaching

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into just the training,

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I have been working with young athletes

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for a very long time in football,

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basketball and many other sports.

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So that's how I got started,

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just going from teamwork to small groups to individual.

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That's how I got started.

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And with the business performance experience,

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what made you decide to say,

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hey, I'm done coaching and I wanna just give back

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and give all the experience to someone else?

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Well, it really wasn't like that.

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There's a story behind it.

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Well, no, I did some coaching, college coaching,

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and then I came back to the DFW

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because there was a time where I wasn't coaching

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and then I was coaching high school.

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So in between that, I had been doing some training,

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but I understood the process of scholarships as well.

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So helping kids get scholarships as a coach,

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you've given kids scholarships

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and you have to pay attention to these kids

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and how that process works even in valuation

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and through that evaluation,

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getting them enrolled in school.

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Well, that process was a little different back then

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because of technology.

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Technology has grown so much

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that there's a lot less you have to do going places.

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But with that said, we understood the process

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and that I understood that a lot of people during that time

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that were better athletes than I was

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when I was getting recruited or just athletes

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that their opportunities are limited.

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Again, like I said, it's not the same now

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because you can click a button and see a kid,

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but during that transition,

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there were other steps you had to take.

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So we helped those kids navigate those steps

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in real time.

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And then it started with the athletic evaluation.

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So that's where we started

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as to what performance experience is now.

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But for that, we trained everybody.

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We trained adults, we trained kids,

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we trained athletes, we did it all.

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So that journey or that process,

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all that experience gave me an opportunity

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to streamline exactly what our focus

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or what our niche really is.

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Yes, and I've talked to so many leaders, business owners,

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and they often speak about the niche,

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truly defining who you wanna help

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so that you could give the best in that area.

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So when you say you define your niche and in 10 years,

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how long have you been doing this?

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Great.

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So I was doing it as just a personal trainer.

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If we just add all coaching,

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I mean, being able to work with athletes,

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it's been 22, 23 years.

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If we're just talking about the training,

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it's probably been 19, 20 years

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because they run together.

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But yeah, I've been doing it for quite some time.

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And then to be able, I mean,

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Javonka, I've trained thousands of people.

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Oh, I believe it.

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Myself, and just thinking about that is funny.

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But to be able to go, okay, this is what we're good at.

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This is what I wanna teach.

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This is direction that I wanna go where we should go.

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And then to have people to be able to add to that

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along the way and help build and develop

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some of these programs that we're running now,

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it's a good thing to see.

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It's actually pretty cool to watch,

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especially if I take a step back and go,

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hey, we probably could have got here faster

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if I would have got out the way.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I tell you the biggest thing about leaders

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and having businesses is we get in our own way.

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But you know what I was thinking is the fact

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that you've been doing this for 20 plus years,

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times are so completely different.

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For example, what I mean is the combine, right?

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That used to be people having to go out there to watch

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the students and the stars to actually see this.

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Like you said, it's a click of a button now

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for someone to see a kid and to give.

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And how does that make a difference

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from when you began to now?

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Well, it's a blessing.

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And I don't wanna say curse, but it forces you to speed up.

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Like speed up your understanding of what

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the environment or the market is.

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Like when I was playing and then when I was coaching,

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and then for years in training,

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the athletes didn't get paid.

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So scholarships were different

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or money opportunities was different.

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So now you gotta keep up with the times

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and have an understanding of what you're offering

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or what they actually need.

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Not saying that like you didn't have to do that,

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but to working in specific areas to understand

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what you can actually provide.

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That's the better way to say it.

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Before you, it wasn't so much information out there

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that people knew or that they had to decipher through

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or how quickly we could get to what we need

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because you had to send tapes and get tapes sent back.

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And like, this was a real time operation.

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So I might send some information

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or I need to get a coach something

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and it might take seven to 10 days

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as to where now it takes seven to 10 minutes.

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And you gotta be ready to evaluate and make moves.

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So it's the speed, it's being able to keep up

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with what you can actually provide.

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And then being able to stand apart

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from all the other information that's out there

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just to give yourself a chance to show whether or not

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you can do what you say you can do.

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Absolutely.

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What's your why?

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Because somebody gave me a chance.

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And that's in literal sense, like helping these kids

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and understanding what they're going through

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or what they're trying to get to.

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Somebody gave me a chance.

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So I got to TCU by way of a coach making a phone call

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that didn't even know who I was.

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He knew me through competition.

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He knew we played each other twice.

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We played once in the regular season

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in high school football,

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and then we played in the post season

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and they beat us in the first round of the playoffs

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my senior year.

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And the coach, Coach Buckley out of,

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it was Oak Grove near Hattiesburg, Mississippi.

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He said, hey, son, you keep doing what you're doing,

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you're gonna get a chance to play somewhere.

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Well, he made that call to TCU.

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He literally gave me an opportunity.

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And through that opportunity,

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I'm sitting here talking to you

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because sports has been a part of my entire life

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as a player, as a assistant or as a coach

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or as an instructor or as somebody directing the camp

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or as my profession, it's part of what I do.

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So he gave me an opportunity to go to TCU.

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Somebody gave me the opportunity to be picked up

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as a undrafted free agent.

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I was given the opportunity to go get my degree.

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Like those opportunities were given.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You know, to manage that opportunity

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and to make the best of it, that's what you earn.

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But you can't earn opportunities.

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Opportunities are given.

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What you do with them is where you earn.

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Like that man didn't have to make that phone call.

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Yeah.

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But I was ready.

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Yeah.

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It could have been another man making another phone call.

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So I really believe that.

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So with that, somebody gave me something.

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I know how to give this.

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Now that don't mean I don't want anything for it.

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Let's just be real.

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When they wanted something in return too,

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I needed to perform, you know what I mean?

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I needed to make good on what they saw.

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So I do want something in return,

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be it monetary or not monetary.

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I'm just keeping it real.

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But that's what I know how to give.

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That's where I'm maximally effective in my job description.

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I know how to coach.

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I know how to instruct.

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You know, I know how to set standards

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for athletic standards.

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I know how to hit timelines.

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So I expect something from that.

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But my why is because that's what somebody gave me.

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And that's so understandable.

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It's especially when in my opinion,

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when it comes to sports,

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it's you work hard.

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I mean, it's just some hard work.

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It's some resilience and the nos and the yeses

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and the exhaustion.

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So when you're given an opportunity and you said,

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Greg, like you had to give something back

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because they expected something.

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It was an expectation.

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Yes, definitely.

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And like you said, rather it's monetary or sweat,

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tears, whatever it is,

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you were gonna give it your all.

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And I love that you're choosing to do that

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for kids today, even though I still believe

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it's a lot easier for them to get where they're going now.

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One thing that I do have a question,

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do you think that their drive is a little bit more now

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than it was in the past?

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100%.

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Yeah.

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And that's because of opportunities.

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Like this is not about,

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this is more about opportunities.

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So if something you are already given, right?

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Somebody is already giving you something

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or you start with it, that's kind of the expectation.

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For example, a lot of people I know, including myself,

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you play college sports to audition

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for the opportunity to go get paid.

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Right now you're getting paid in college sports.

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So does that, are you auditioning to make more money

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or are you auditioning in high school

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for the opportunity to get paid in college?

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Now, some people's ultimate goal is to get paid.

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So it's easy to say, well, when I was in middle school,

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I was, no, you weren't,

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because nobody was watching you perform.

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Yes, yes.

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They were watching you perform in high school

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to get to college for the opportunity to get paid.

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The people that wanna pay you

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won't return on that investment.

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I understand that now.

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You don't understand that when you a kid.

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You just, you know, so I think it's so different now.

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And again, the time, like, what are we doing?

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So with that, I think the drive was more and longer

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because the opportunities that they have, we didn't.

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And that's real.

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Yeah.

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I didn't get paid to play college ball.

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And if anybody were to get paid,

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they would get in trouble for being paid.

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Now they're negotiating contracts.

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So I ain't really gotta be as hungry as long

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for an opportunity that it's,

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now I just gotta go audition for it.

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Yeah.

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So how do people find you?

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What is it that, what's the process

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of being with performance experience?

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Oh, it's easy.

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You just go online, you can go to Facebook.

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You can go to our website and pesportsandrec.com.

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Push a button and you can jump on our speed school program

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that starts in January, or you can get an assessment

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and come in and talk to myself or one of the instructors.

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And we'll talk to and through this process

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that we talking about now,

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according to what you're looking for.

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Yeah, it's easy.

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Facebook at the performance experience,

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Instagram at performance experience,

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YouTube at performance experience,

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and then our websites, click one of them buttons,

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links or likes, and I promise you, as soon as we see it,

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we'll get back with you.

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You won't be talking, you'll be talking to a person.

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And see, it's easy.

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It's easy.

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Yeah, it's easy.

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I ain't hiding from nobody.

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Yes.

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So when it comes to the assessment,

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you're sitting with the child or the student

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and the parent, and what does that look like?

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Yeah, we sitting with them both.

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And it's really a council and an assessment.

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So it's, we like to say we write prescriptions.

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So you go to the doctor's office, you come in,

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you've already had, you've already set your appointment

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in that appointment.

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Hopefully one of our instructors,

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you've had a quality conversation with,

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they're gonna call you.

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You know, that's why I say they're like,

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they're going to call you, ask you a few questions.

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Once we set the date and time, you come in,

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we show you the place that you'll be working out.

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From there, we do a movement assessment.

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We want to know what we working with.

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You know, here are the goals.

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We have a conversation.

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What are you trying to get accomplished?

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How much time are you trying to get that accomplished in?

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Let's go take a look.

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We see, tell you about what we see.

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Again, not just what we think.

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Hey, this is what needs to be worked on.

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This is the direction we need to go.

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Here is the prescription.

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Yeah.

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I tell parents all the time,

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the most you're gonna walk out of here,

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set, ready to go with a plan, with an understanding,

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with a plan, all we gotta do is execute.

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At the very least, you're gonna know what to do.

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Yeah.

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I'm gonna tell you, the information won't change.

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So, you know.

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At the very least.

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We're gonna transparent as we can be.

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That way when you come back in three weeks,

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you're gonna say, well, you know, you said this, I did.

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How many days has your kid been in the program?

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How many times have they shown up?

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Because here's how we work our process

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through that progress.

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So, we try to give you a realistic look.

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Because, Javaka, you live in a world today

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where numerically and scientifically,

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you can find the information.

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Yeah, yeah, definitely.

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It's just the truth.

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Like, you can go with anybody.

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Yeah.

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But what we're trying to do is what we say we're gonna do.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, and many, many, many people say that they will, right?

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But how?

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And that was the whole question, how?

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And what's the process?

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And what does that look like?

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And not to mention, you know,

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if a child or a person doesn't have the drive

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and the goal set, then it's, you just have to keep working.

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Is that the way?

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No, that's not how we see it.

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I'm gonna tell you exactly how we see it.

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If you don't have the drive.

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So, we tell parents,

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that's why it's an investment, we understand.

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So, we tell parents,

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we're not gonna waste three things, period.

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We're not gonna waste my time, their energy,

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or the parents' money.

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We're not gonna do that.

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So, effort, effort is an expectation.

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That's the standard.

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If the lack of effort, and I ain't, let me define it.

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I ain't talking about running full speed till you're tired.

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No, if you're not paying attention, if your attitude sucks,

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if your grades aren't there, and you're not paying attention,

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and your attitude sucks, we're not going to work with you.

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That's a waste of time, energy, and money.

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So, I say that, but we don't turn kids away.

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Like, we don't have that problem.

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And if we discover that problem, it's through the work.

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Look, we've been working with your kid for eight,

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10 sessions.

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They're not doing this, they're not showing up,

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they're not responding.

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We ain't gonna waste no more time.

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We're not gonna waste your time, energy, or money.

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You might not be the spot, or you might need to change

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his attitude, or here's what we see.

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So, we ain't kicking, like, we ain't just dismissing people.

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If our job is to help, we gotta help.

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But if we can't help you, we can't help you.

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Yeah, yeah.

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You see what I'm saying?

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So, we don't have that problem, if that makes sense.

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Yeah, yeah.

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I mean, and that makes all the sense in the world.

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And sometimes you just don't know what type of style

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or who you're dealing with until you actually-

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You gotta work with them.

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Yes.

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You gotta work with them.

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So, when it comes to performance experience as a whole,

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tell me about your vision.

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So, I've said this for years.

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I know we've made it in a spot of what I would deem success,

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is I can show up to a program and enjoy it like a parent,

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or be able to watch the instructor and let them do work

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and may not be a part of.

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That's the vision.

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That means we have enough people working,

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we have enough people doing things,

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we have enough people helping in a manner that allows us

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to be expansive for success.

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Because if I got people working, that means they getting paid

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and they're doing what they like or love to do,

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part-time, full-time, or any other time.

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If I'm doing, if I'm being beneficial

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and I can keep a payroll for people running the program,

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that's fantastic.

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If I can teach another kid a trade

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or I can teach another kid a situation

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that allows them success,

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then that allows success for everybody.

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So, that's the vision.

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The vision is all the kids

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that we need to be able to assist.

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Yes.

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But the goal is to get the program

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running properly everywhere.

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Well, are you only in DFW?

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Right now, we're only in the DFW.

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So, we run Speed School, one of our programs

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out of Mansfield at a Fit Tribe gym in Mansfield.

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And then we also have a developmental program

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with a dope company called Seeds Sports

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that does what we call the Elementary Sports League.

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Both Springfields are a tremendous job with them.

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We run developmental program there in Keller

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with Seeds Sports.

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So, the goal then are what we plan to do,

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what'll be rolling out in,

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I wanna make sure I get the date right.

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I think it's June is where we'll have

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all of our digital programs.

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So, that way, doesn't matter where people are,

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click this button, the same information,

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instruction that they're getting there,

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you'll be able to get right there on your device.

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So, that's the goal.

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So, that's what we're working on right now.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

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as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is gonna get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.

