1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,800 What is the story behind your why? 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:08,040 Well, so my story behind my why came out of nowhere. 3 00:00:08,300 --> 00:00:10,700 That's not something I expected, 4 00:00:10,700 --> 00:00:14,100 nor did I know much about homelessness. 5 00:00:14,100 --> 00:00:18,980 So now I work on the foundation that mentors the homeless. 6 00:00:18,980 --> 00:00:23,980 And when I first had a vision, 7 00:00:24,060 --> 00:00:26,860 it was actually in a silent retreat. 8 00:00:26,860 --> 00:00:29,260 And I specifically went on the silent retreat 9 00:00:29,260 --> 00:00:33,780 to seek God's really guidance on what's my purpose. 10 00:00:33,780 --> 00:00:38,220 And the vision that I had was really a business plan. 11 00:00:38,220 --> 00:00:42,480 So it was a specific way to organize an organization 12 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:46,360 that's going to help people through faith and community. 13 00:00:47,260 --> 00:00:51,160 And I was really overwhelmed by that vision at first, 14 00:00:51,160 --> 00:00:55,000 because my background didn't match at all 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:56,780 with what I was about to do. 16 00:00:56,780 --> 00:00:58,920 I was in corporate sales. 17 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,600 I was atheist most of my life, 18 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,900 didn't have a big Christian community around me. 19 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:06,980 And so when I started building this, 20 00:01:06,980 --> 00:01:10,580 it was really just a big leap of faith. 21 00:01:10,580 --> 00:01:14,860 And so now fast forwarding almost a year and a half later, 22 00:01:14,860 --> 00:01:19,860 since I started, it's really when people ask me why, 23 00:01:21,020 --> 00:01:25,000 like the short answer is because God asked me to. 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:30,000 But in reality, I found a lot of pleasure 25 00:01:30,060 --> 00:01:34,380 in really building something that's bigger than myself 26 00:01:34,380 --> 00:01:38,420 and being an advocate for those who don't have the voice. 27 00:01:38,420 --> 00:01:41,580 And one of the things that I've done through this journey 28 00:01:41,580 --> 00:01:44,620 is I've really committed everything in my life 29 00:01:44,620 --> 00:01:45,780 to this mission. 30 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:48,680 So something that I have not shared before 31 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,100 in any other podcast that I want to share today 32 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:55,260 is that I am so passionate and committed 33 00:01:55,260 --> 00:01:57,620 that I have actually went ahead 34 00:01:57,620 --> 00:02:00,940 and in order to finance this startup, 35 00:02:00,940 --> 00:02:03,740 I've sold my condo and I've sold my car. 36 00:02:03,740 --> 00:02:07,860 And so for the last two years, since I started working, 37 00:02:07,860 --> 00:02:12,860 I have been really putting all my finances into it, right? 38 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:16,780 To be able to continue to live off of the savings 39 00:02:16,780 --> 00:02:20,140 and to invest into this mission. 40 00:02:20,140 --> 00:02:25,140 And so I think a lot of people maybe find it surprising 41 00:02:27,060 --> 00:02:29,740 because when they see me, they see a different kind of 42 00:02:29,740 --> 00:02:33,820 very confident, well-dressed CEO of an organization. 43 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:38,500 But the reality of things is that my passion 44 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:43,460 has driven my decision to do this and really commit 45 00:02:43,460 --> 00:02:46,200 and really give everything I own 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:48,900 into the mission and the purpose. 47 00:02:48,900 --> 00:02:50,620 Thank you for sharing that. 48 00:02:50,620 --> 00:02:54,580 There's one thing to listen to the Lord 49 00:02:54,580 --> 00:02:55,980 and there's the other thing to actually do 50 00:02:55,980 --> 00:02:56,820 what the Lord says. 51 00:02:56,820 --> 00:02:59,660 So tell me about that when you got to know 52 00:02:59,660 --> 00:03:01,380 that hey, this is your mission 53 00:03:01,380 --> 00:03:05,140 and that step from taking that part 54 00:03:05,140 --> 00:03:07,020 and then actually selling all those things 55 00:03:07,020 --> 00:03:09,300 and just diving headfirst, how did that feel like 56 00:03:09,300 --> 00:03:13,940 and how did that decision, how did you take that decision? 57 00:03:13,940 --> 00:03:16,140 It's not an easy decision, first of all, 58 00:03:16,140 --> 00:03:18,620 because that's basically radical obedience 59 00:03:18,620 --> 00:03:19,820 to the Lord, right? 60 00:03:19,820 --> 00:03:23,220 And we do have examples of that, obviously in the Bible 61 00:03:23,220 --> 00:03:26,460 and we have examples of people in real life who's done it, 62 00:03:26,460 --> 00:03:31,040 but we always think that it's kind of an exception 63 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:34,620 and it's never gonna happen to you until it does, right? 64 00:03:34,620 --> 00:03:37,660 And I never expected that this would happen to me. 65 00:03:37,660 --> 00:03:41,260 When it first happened, honestly, the visual I can give you 66 00:03:41,260 --> 00:03:45,060 is jumping off the cliff, not knowing what's behind 67 00:03:45,060 --> 00:03:49,460 and what's below and what's gonna happen. 68 00:03:49,460 --> 00:03:53,140 It's really nerve wracking because after being somebody 69 00:03:53,140 --> 00:03:57,580 who was really high earner, I was in sales 70 00:03:57,580 --> 00:04:01,740 doing really well, going from earning so much money 71 00:04:01,740 --> 00:04:05,060 and really defining your worth and your value 72 00:04:05,060 --> 00:04:10,060 from how much money you earn to basically in God's kingdom, 73 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:12,900 the values are completely different. 74 00:04:12,900 --> 00:04:17,900 So, I have not made nearly as much money, if not at all, 75 00:04:18,340 --> 00:04:20,300 since I started this organization, 76 00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:23,980 but the impact that I've created on people's lives 77 00:04:23,980 --> 00:04:27,660 and transforming people has been just so significant 78 00:04:27,660 --> 00:04:31,100 where in the past, I feel like I really have not generated 79 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:34,420 anything into this world that would make this world 80 00:04:34,420 --> 00:04:35,460 a better place. 81 00:04:35,460 --> 00:04:39,300 And so now I judge really my work a little bit differently, 82 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:43,260 which was quite an adjustment because again, 83 00:04:43,260 --> 00:04:45,700 coming from over 10 years in sales 84 00:04:45,700 --> 00:04:49,060 where your success is measured by money 85 00:04:49,060 --> 00:04:52,240 to now going to mission driven work 86 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:54,140 where your success is really driven 87 00:04:54,140 --> 00:04:56,220 by how many lights you transform 88 00:04:56,220 --> 00:05:01,220 and how much impact you make on this world, 89 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:03,340 a positive impact. 90 00:05:03,340 --> 00:05:10,340 So, I would say it's not the journey for the faint of heart, 91 00:05:10,580 --> 00:05:12,580 it's very difficult. 92 00:05:12,580 --> 00:05:16,060 There's times that I struggle, it's not an easy walk 93 00:05:16,060 --> 00:05:19,180 where I say it's always rainbows and sunshine. 94 00:05:19,180 --> 00:05:23,380 Sometimes I've had doubts, I've had thoughts of 95 00:05:23,380 --> 00:05:24,620 why am I doing this? 96 00:05:24,620 --> 00:05:27,500 Like I could be making so much more money 97 00:05:27,500 --> 00:05:30,040 if I went to corporate and not worry about 98 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,100 how my bills are gonna get paid. 99 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:34,540 But then when I truly decide like, 100 00:05:34,540 --> 00:05:37,380 am I ready to quit this and go back to corporate? 101 00:05:37,380 --> 00:05:38,980 The answer is always no, 102 00:05:38,980 --> 00:05:43,020 because I just don't think I could ever go back to work 103 00:05:43,020 --> 00:05:46,220 where I'm not touching people's hearts and lives. 104 00:05:47,020 --> 00:05:49,300 Wow, thank you for being that attentive 105 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:50,580 and sharing with us today. 106 00:05:50,580 --> 00:05:52,520 Absolutely, it's my pleasure. 107 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:57,620 What would you say is success to you, Anna? 108 00:05:57,620 --> 00:06:01,060 Well, that's kind of going back to what I just talked about. 109 00:06:01,060 --> 00:06:01,900 Right? 110 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:06,100 And for the longest time, success was really for me 111 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:09,420 measured by material things, right? 112 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:11,780 The fact that for the longest time, 113 00:06:11,780 --> 00:06:14,700 my biggest goal was to purchase this beautiful condo 114 00:06:14,700 --> 00:06:18,020 in the middle of the city with high rises. 115 00:06:18,020 --> 00:06:20,300 And that was like, wow, I've made it, right? 116 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:25,300 And then I remember I made the biggest purchase of my life. 117 00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:28,580 And I renovated it exactly how I wanted 118 00:06:28,580 --> 00:06:31,340 pouring thousands of dollars into it. 119 00:06:31,340 --> 00:06:34,660 And I was sitting on my couch and a month goes by 120 00:06:34,660 --> 00:06:38,020 and I'm sitting and I'm like, okay, well now what? 121 00:06:38,020 --> 00:06:41,340 Because that happiness that was brought by that purchase 122 00:06:41,340 --> 00:06:44,620 was very short-lived, a month, that's it. 123 00:06:44,620 --> 00:06:48,100 And I was working for that goal for years. 124 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:50,340 And I think that was the defining moment 125 00:06:50,340 --> 00:06:52,580 that opened up the doubt in my mind, 126 00:06:52,580 --> 00:06:55,820 where it's like, there has to be more to life than this, 127 00:06:55,820 --> 00:07:00,820 more than just being in this race of let me earn more 128 00:07:00,820 --> 00:07:02,820 so I can purchase something bigger 129 00:07:02,820 --> 00:07:05,300 only to be satisfied for a month. 130 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:07,620 And then going back to being dissatisfied, 131 00:07:07,620 --> 00:07:09,660 working more until you die. 132 00:07:09,660 --> 00:07:12,380 And I was like, there has to be more to life. 133 00:07:12,380 --> 00:07:17,380 And so it has been really a 180 flip and shift in mindset, 134 00:07:18,340 --> 00:07:22,180 because now for me, success is the last step 135 00:07:22,180 --> 00:07:24,260 is the legacy that I leave 136 00:07:24,260 --> 00:07:27,260 after I'm no longer on this earth. 137 00:07:27,260 --> 00:07:28,780 I've never would have imagined 138 00:07:28,780 --> 00:07:31,020 that I would have several books written. 139 00:07:31,020 --> 00:07:35,140 I have podcasts that is only going to live forever 140 00:07:35,140 --> 00:07:39,020 on the internet, that people are going to hear me speak 141 00:07:39,020 --> 00:07:43,700 on stages and that I'm going to have this organization 142 00:07:43,700 --> 00:07:48,260 that hopefully keep doing the work long after I'm gone. 143 00:07:48,260 --> 00:07:53,260 So success to me now is how much impact I make on this world, 144 00:07:53,380 --> 00:07:57,100 but it's a positive impact that creates lasting change 145 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:58,380 in people's lives. 146 00:07:59,260 --> 00:08:00,100 That's awesome. 147 00:08:01,300 --> 00:08:05,420 Is there a place that you want to see it in your lifetime 148 00:08:05,420 --> 00:08:09,940 that you want to achieve when it comes to changing lives? 149 00:08:09,940 --> 00:08:11,940 This is a really interesting question 150 00:08:11,940 --> 00:08:16,940 because there's something I have to always think about. 151 00:08:16,940 --> 00:08:20,340 We have this ambition and I have this ego 152 00:08:20,340 --> 00:08:23,380 that sometimes I have to keep it in check. 153 00:08:23,380 --> 00:08:26,580 This mission, I'm just the shepherd 154 00:08:26,580 --> 00:08:30,020 and I'm just the fulfiller of God's purpose. 155 00:08:30,020 --> 00:08:33,220 So sometimes my big vision was always like, 156 00:08:33,220 --> 00:08:35,580 oh, I want to see it grow nationally. 157 00:08:35,580 --> 00:08:38,620 I want this organization to solve homelessness 158 00:08:38,620 --> 00:08:39,660 in this country. 159 00:08:39,660 --> 00:08:42,140 And this is a very ambitious goal, 160 00:08:42,140 --> 00:08:44,940 but then you kind of have to decide, okay, 161 00:08:44,940 --> 00:08:47,100 but is this in God's plan? 162 00:08:47,100 --> 00:08:48,900 Is this something that he wants to do? 163 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:52,020 So this is something that he showed me that will happen. 164 00:08:52,020 --> 00:08:54,340 The vision was that this organization 165 00:08:54,340 --> 00:08:56,580 is going to grow nationally. 166 00:08:56,580 --> 00:08:58,460 But then I had a spiritual advisor 167 00:08:58,460 --> 00:09:01,260 that asked me a very good question. 168 00:09:01,260 --> 00:09:02,900 And that's why I think it's very important 169 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:05,180 for us to have mentors and advisors. 170 00:09:05,180 --> 00:09:08,940 He said, well, how do you know that it's you 171 00:09:08,940 --> 00:09:10,980 who is meant to do that? 172 00:09:10,980 --> 00:09:12,620 And that gave me a pause. 173 00:09:12,620 --> 00:09:14,620 I said, you're right. 174 00:09:14,620 --> 00:09:16,140 I don't know if it's me. 175 00:09:16,140 --> 00:09:18,420 I know that I was meant to start it, 176 00:09:18,420 --> 00:09:22,380 but I don't know if I meant to work on this temporarily 177 00:09:22,380 --> 00:09:25,820 to launch it and then somebody else is supposed to take it, 178 00:09:25,820 --> 00:09:28,140 or is it actually going to be me 179 00:09:28,140 --> 00:09:30,260 who's going to fulfill this, right? 180 00:09:30,260 --> 00:09:33,940 And so that allows you to really hold everything 181 00:09:33,940 --> 00:09:38,700 with open palms and say, Lord, let your will be done. 182 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:39,940 And if it's meant to be, 183 00:09:39,940 --> 00:09:42,140 and if it's meant for me to take it, 184 00:09:42,140 --> 00:09:43,940 yes, I would love nothing more. 185 00:09:43,940 --> 00:09:46,020 I mean, what a legacy to say, right? 186 00:09:46,020 --> 00:09:49,900 That I have grown something from just nothing 187 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:51,740 to national movement. 188 00:09:51,740 --> 00:09:54,060 I mean, that's a dream come true, right? 189 00:09:54,060 --> 00:09:56,460 That's something that I would be like, wow, 190 00:09:56,460 --> 00:09:57,660 I have really made it. 191 00:09:57,660 --> 00:09:59,740 This is the success for me. 192 00:09:59,740 --> 00:10:03,620 But at the same time, if you allow your ego to drive it, 193 00:10:03,620 --> 00:10:06,580 that's when you, a lot of the times make mistakes 194 00:10:06,580 --> 00:10:08,900 and then you become not the kind of leader 195 00:10:08,900 --> 00:10:10,620 that people want to follow. 196 00:10:10,620 --> 00:10:14,980 And we hear a lot of examples of highly narcissistic, 197 00:10:14,980 --> 00:10:18,780 egotistical CEOs that really start treating 198 00:10:18,780 --> 00:10:20,900 their organizations like they're playbooks 199 00:10:20,900 --> 00:10:23,340 and they just make a lot of bad decisions 200 00:10:23,340 --> 00:10:27,500 and then that negatively affects their ministry, their work. 201 00:10:27,500 --> 00:10:31,220 And so I always keep that in mind that I have to really, 202 00:10:31,220 --> 00:10:34,700 in the beginning, make sure that I work on my character 203 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:37,940 and to be the kind of leader 204 00:10:37,940 --> 00:10:41,860 that people actually want to follow if this organization 205 00:10:41,860 --> 00:10:45,140 to be successful and to grow nationally. 206 00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:47,100 You mentioned that and that goes directly 207 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:49,140 to my next question then. 208 00:10:49,140 --> 00:10:50,900 And what is a great leader to you? 209 00:10:51,820 --> 00:10:56,180 Yeah, so I think a great leader inspires people 210 00:10:56,180 --> 00:10:58,380 to be better and to do good. 211 00:10:58,380 --> 00:11:02,340 And so when I judge whether I'm a great leader, 212 00:11:02,340 --> 00:11:04,180 I look at people around me. 213 00:11:04,180 --> 00:11:06,260 And what I see is that when I speak, 214 00:11:06,260 --> 00:11:09,780 they get motivated to change. 215 00:11:09,780 --> 00:11:14,500 They want to come alongside of me and help and do good. 216 00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:17,740 And it's amazing to see all these busy professionals 217 00:11:17,740 --> 00:11:21,500 who decide to dedicate their time and mentor the homeless. 218 00:11:21,500 --> 00:11:25,180 And that's a big 18 month commitment that they sign up for. 219 00:11:26,180 --> 00:11:28,700 But also I think it's important again 220 00:11:28,700 --> 00:11:31,340 to have checks and balances. 221 00:11:31,340 --> 00:11:35,060 So a great leader also has a group of trusted advisors 222 00:11:35,060 --> 00:11:36,980 who are there to tell them, 223 00:11:36,980 --> 00:11:41,060 hey, you need to do this or do that. 224 00:11:41,060 --> 00:11:44,740 But I think the biggest thing is your connection with God. 225 00:11:44,740 --> 00:11:47,580 So I just recently, two weeks ago, 226 00:11:47,580 --> 00:11:49,900 came back from my silent retreat. 227 00:11:49,900 --> 00:11:52,420 I go every three months or so. 228 00:11:52,420 --> 00:11:55,220 And this time my hope was to go to really focus 229 00:11:55,220 --> 00:11:56,860 on strategy for next year. 230 00:11:56,860 --> 00:12:01,180 So my questions really were about strategy 231 00:12:01,180 --> 00:12:03,700 and like, oh, what am I supposed to do? 232 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:06,660 But it was interesting, God was really quiet 233 00:12:06,660 --> 00:12:10,620 on all of those, but the areas where he was spoken 234 00:12:10,620 --> 00:12:14,140 was all about my own character building. 235 00:12:14,140 --> 00:12:16,220 So listen to what happened. 236 00:12:16,220 --> 00:12:18,140 I quit my corporate job, right? 237 00:12:18,140 --> 00:12:21,220 I had mentioned that about three years ago. 238 00:12:21,220 --> 00:12:26,100 And God revealed to me that when I quit so abruptly, 239 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:28,980 that has caused a lot of just, 240 00:12:29,860 --> 00:12:31,660 I guess unnecessary tension 241 00:12:31,660 --> 00:12:34,140 on the operations of that business. 242 00:12:34,140 --> 00:12:36,180 And I never apologized for it. 243 00:12:36,180 --> 00:12:39,260 So imagine, I was like, oh no, like, yeah, 244 00:12:39,260 --> 00:12:41,220 this is not good what I've done. 245 00:12:41,220 --> 00:12:42,780 And so three years later, 246 00:12:42,780 --> 00:12:46,100 I reached out to the owner of that organization and said, 247 00:12:46,100 --> 00:12:48,740 this probably comes as a surprise after three years, 248 00:12:48,740 --> 00:12:53,740 but I just realized how much unnecessary heartbreak 249 00:12:55,100 --> 00:13:00,100 and just tension I have caused with my abrupt exit. 250 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:02,340 I wanted to apologize and wanted to say 251 00:13:02,340 --> 00:13:03,940 that this was nothing personal 252 00:13:03,940 --> 00:13:06,340 and I was going through a really difficult time. 253 00:13:06,340 --> 00:13:08,380 But on top of that, I thanked them 254 00:13:08,380 --> 00:13:11,980 because the savings that I was able to acquire 255 00:13:11,980 --> 00:13:15,140 during my time of employment with them 256 00:13:15,140 --> 00:13:18,700 is what allowed me to pursue my purpose and passion. 257 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:23,460 And so I really was grateful to them, but I never said it. 258 00:13:23,460 --> 00:13:25,700 And so this was my opportunity. 259 00:13:25,700 --> 00:13:27,500 And so I guess the message is, 260 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:29,180 it's never too late to say thank you. 261 00:13:29,180 --> 00:13:31,500 It's never too late to apologize. 262 00:13:31,500 --> 00:13:33,860 And it's always good to check in, 263 00:13:33,860 --> 00:13:38,860 to see where you should really sharpen your character 264 00:13:39,100 --> 00:13:41,180 to be a better leader, more humble, 265 00:13:41,180 --> 00:13:46,180 and really seek that from the council and from that. 266 00:13:47,420 --> 00:13:49,260 Thank you for sharing that, Anna. 267 00:13:49,260 --> 00:13:50,860 Of course. 268 00:13:50,860 --> 00:13:52,420 It might come as a shock to you, 269 00:13:52,420 --> 00:13:55,660 but I wholeheartedly believe that every one of us 270 00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:59,260 are put on this earth at this particular time 271 00:13:59,260 --> 00:14:01,060 for a specific reason. 272 00:14:01,060 --> 00:14:05,780 And it's, you should try to find that purpose 273 00:14:05,780 --> 00:14:08,740 and reason that we are here for. 274 00:14:08,740 --> 00:14:13,260 And I know that once you find that purpose, 275 00:14:13,260 --> 00:14:15,100 the energy and effort and things you do 276 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:17,980 from the point onwards, it's a whole different, 277 00:14:18,860 --> 00:14:21,700 it's a whole different level of things. 278 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:25,260 Like you use something you feel. 279 00:14:25,260 --> 00:14:26,660 I can't express it. 280 00:14:26,660 --> 00:14:27,500 Yeah. 281 00:14:27,500 --> 00:14:29,780 But something you do and it's something you feel 282 00:14:29,780 --> 00:14:31,900 and the lives you change 283 00:14:31,900 --> 00:14:34,060 and your overall changes around you. 284 00:14:34,060 --> 00:14:34,900 Yeah. 285 00:14:34,900 --> 00:14:35,740 So thank you for sharing that. 286 00:14:35,740 --> 00:14:37,020 I hope people find that today. 287 00:14:37,020 --> 00:14:39,620 I hope they're able to look into within themselves 288 00:14:39,620 --> 00:14:42,260 and communicate to whosoever they communicate. 289 00:14:42,260 --> 00:14:44,060 They're able to find that for themselves 290 00:14:44,060 --> 00:14:47,540 and feel what you and me feel. 291 00:14:47,540 --> 00:14:48,460 I agree with you. 292 00:14:48,460 --> 00:14:53,220 I think fear is what's causing hesitation 293 00:14:53,220 --> 00:14:55,500 to really take that leap of faith 294 00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:57,620 to pursue what you're passionate about. 295 00:14:57,620 --> 00:14:59,580 And I agree with you wholeheartedly 296 00:14:59,580 --> 00:15:02,660 that each of us has a specific purpose. 297 00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:05,860 And sometimes the purpose is big and sometimes it's small, 298 00:15:05,860 --> 00:15:08,340 but it's nevertheless is very important. 299 00:15:08,340 --> 00:15:09,980 And when you fulfill it, 300 00:15:09,980 --> 00:15:12,220 that's when you find that happiness and peace 301 00:15:12,220 --> 00:15:14,860 that I would not rather do anything else. 302 00:15:14,860 --> 00:15:19,380 And this doesn't necessarily only mean work, right? 303 00:15:19,380 --> 00:15:22,820 It could be volunteering in a certain organization 304 00:15:22,820 --> 00:15:24,620 or it could be being a parent. 305 00:15:24,620 --> 00:15:26,900 So it's a variety of things, 306 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:30,660 but nevertheless the feeling that you get 307 00:15:30,660 --> 00:15:33,980 and the satisfaction is that similar feeling you get, 308 00:15:33,980 --> 00:15:35,980 whether it's work or vacation. 309 00:15:35,980 --> 00:15:37,340 Thank you for being here today. 310 00:15:37,340 --> 00:15:39,820 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 311 00:15:39,820 --> 00:15:42,460 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions 312 00:15:42,460 --> 00:15:44,780 as these episodes continue to move forward. 313 00:15:44,780 --> 00:15:46,460 This is gonna get more and more fun. 314 00:15:46,460 --> 00:15:48,260 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 315 00:15:48,260 --> 00:15:50,380 We'll invite people to participate in the show 316 00:15:50,380 --> 00:15:52,740 and thank you for giving us your time and attention. 317 00:15:52,740 --> 00:15:55,460 Have an excellent time building out your vision 318 00:15:55,460 --> 00:16:23,100 and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.