1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,400 But yeah, no exciting exciting times going into the knit going into the end of the year 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:10,040 This is it's probably been one of my favorite end of years as an adult 3 00:00:10,980 --> 00:00:17,480 That I've ever had just just really just feels good to go into it and the resolutions will be fine 4 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,940 But you know at 2025 is gonna take care of itself 5 00:00:20,940 --> 00:00:28,180 I'm gonna be riding this wave to just enjoy this last month. How about yourself Scott? What's what's new with you? 6 00:00:28,180 --> 00:00:32,640 We we've met in a while when your podcast inspired studentship. It was awesome 7 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:38,140 You have some really cool ways of like taking care of people to the next level that I'll talk about throughout the show 8 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:44,340 But how's your how's your year you're wrapping up? You know, honestly, it's been it's been a really good year 9 00:00:44,340 --> 00:00:50,220 I've I've had we've had a lot of big events both you know on the business side, but as well on the life side 10 00:00:51,060 --> 00:00:56,600 You know business perspective, but my book came out this year. That was a big thing. That was a big milestone 11 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:02,160 I've had a really good client success this year both in terms of you know 12 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:08,200 Quote my end of it picking up clients serving clients all of that their end of it. They've had some milestones 13 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,920 They've hit some successes. They've had some some things that they can check off in their business and you know as a coach 14 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,520 It's always fun because you get to cut them you have your own internal success 15 00:01:18,380 --> 00:01:21,920 Milestones that you get to have fun with and then you also have your clients milestones 16 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:27,400 If you you get to have fun with and then you know on a personal level my wife and I moved this year 17 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:29,740 We've got a new house moved to a new town 18 00:01:30,140 --> 00:01:34,340 You know, so that's obviously a lot of change on a personal thing 19 00:01:34,340 --> 00:01:37,400 But again, that's one of the beauties of the business that I built 20 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:44,020 I deliberately built a business where I wanted something where if we needed to pick up and move if we wanted to go someplace else 21 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:49,820 The business could just go with me, you know, and so because I deliberately built it that way 22 00:01:49,820 --> 00:01:55,240 I think I was down all of a week while we were getting the home office set up and you know 23 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:59,560 They're right back to business as usual. So that was fun as well. That's awesome 24 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,360 And for those of you listening in you visionaries who are perhaps 25 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,960 Becoming even more aligned with the podcast world and considering it yourself 26 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,580 We have another fellow podcast expert and Scott so let's talk a little bit about 27 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,580 Inspired stewardship I got to be on the show super honored by that 28 00:02:16,580 --> 00:02:24,180 One of the things that Scott did at the end was he had me record kind of like a promo reel about inspired stewardship 29 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:30,260 While we were doing the wrap-up and it was great because it gave me the essence of already having experienced the show 30 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:34,180 And then I could kind of recap around what we had already talked about an experience 31 00:02:34,180 --> 00:02:36,540 It was just a really brilliant moves. You had a great coach 32 00:02:36,540 --> 00:02:42,100 If you don't mind revealing I'd love to know who the coach was to help with your processes to tell the listeners 33 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:46,100 What is inspired stewardship all about because I'm already bought in but I'd love to hear it from you 34 00:02:46,100 --> 00:02:48,100 directly sure so 35 00:02:48,620 --> 00:02:52,980 Inspired stewardship, like you said, that's my podcast. I've been doing it since 2018 36 00:02:53,780 --> 00:02:58,860 At one time I was podcasting six days a week. I've dropped back down to about two days a week right now 37 00:02:59,420 --> 00:03:04,060 But I've got over 1500 episodes because you know there for almost two years 38 00:03:04,060 --> 00:03:10,700 I was podcasting six days a week so that you know, you had a large volume very quickly when you do it that often 39 00:03:11,380 --> 00:03:15,100 As far as my podcast coach, that was a gentleman by the name of Jeff Brown 40 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:20,220 He actually has a podcast called the read to lead podcast, which by the way if people ask, you know 41 00:03:20,220 --> 00:03:23,660 What are resources? I know we're gonna talk about that. There's one of them 42 00:03:24,580 --> 00:03:30,860 You know, I'll give you give you foreshadowing and Jeff helps a lot with setting folks up 43 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:37,260 Not just on the mechanics of the podcast because I think a lot of podcast coach focus on the mechanics 44 00:03:37,860 --> 00:03:43,300 He focuses a lot on how do you interview? How do you ask good questions? How do you? 45 00:03:43,300 --> 00:03:47,900 How do you share things in a way that's effective? How do you do that piece of it? 46 00:03:47,900 --> 00:03:53,340 He was in radio for decades and so he's got that personal experience of the radio background and all of that 47 00:03:53,340 --> 00:03:56,780 He's also got one of the greatest voices you'll ever hear for podcast 48 00:03:56,780 --> 00:04:01,980 He's kind of got the James Earl Brown, you know James Earl Jones kind of voice going on and 49 00:04:02,380 --> 00:04:08,220 It does a great job around that and so back in the very beginning whenever I was starting the podcast 50 00:04:08,220 --> 00:04:11,420 I hooked in with a mastermind and then hired him as a podcast coach 51 00:04:11,420 --> 00:04:15,060 And I honestly think that was probably one of the best investments 52 00:04:15,060 --> 00:04:19,420 I did is setting up from the beginning of not just doing this as a hobby 53 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:22,700 But doing it is something that I wanted to be a part of my business 54 00:04:22,700 --> 00:04:28,780 I wanted it to have some some milestones some things that I could hit that that would really be effective for me 55 00:04:29,260 --> 00:04:34,060 And I would honestly say for folks that want to get into podcasting first off. It is an awesome tool 56 00:04:34,780 --> 00:04:39,580 You know, I mentioned the book earlier everything in the book came from the podcast because I hate 57 00:04:39,580 --> 00:04:45,180 But I love to talk so by doing a podcast I could take all of that content that I talked about 58 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:49,260 And work with somebody else and go hey, let's turn that into a book 59 00:04:49,260 --> 00:04:54,220 You know, I was able to make connections through the podcast that if the person that edited the book 60 00:04:54,220 --> 00:04:58,380 I made a connection the person that did the forward the person so the networking that you do 61 00:04:58,380 --> 00:05:04,540 So yeah, you can use the podcast as like a marketing tool and I do that and I get clients through the podcast and all of that 62 00:05:04,540 --> 00:05:11,340 But there's a secondary level of effect if you set it up right and do it well where you can use it as a networking tool 63 00:05:11,340 --> 00:05:14,700 You can use it as a connecting tool. You can use it to produce other content 64 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:17,100 You can repurpose everything you do, you know 65 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:23,020 It's all these ripples that you can do and that's one of the things as a coach that he set me up to do from the very beginning 66 00:05:23,020 --> 00:05:27,020 It's not just look at it as one lane, but say, okay, how can you do this one thing? 67 00:05:27,580 --> 00:05:29,580 And turn it into 17 other things 68 00:05:30,140 --> 00:05:32,140 It's a compound effect 69 00:05:32,140 --> 00:05:37,740 Yeah, and it does that naturally it's got that ability when when we are centered with our authenticity 70 00:05:38,460 --> 00:05:42,060 It compounds our authenticity in unforeseen ways 71 00:05:42,220 --> 00:05:47,420 And I think that's one of the neat things is you're the marketing you may have even done it with that intent 72 00:05:47,660 --> 00:05:50,460 But it's actually a byproduct. It's second, right? 73 00:05:51,180 --> 00:05:54,460 So you're and that's what your show really represents to me as well 74 00:05:54,460 --> 00:05:56,620 So I love I love how deep you're willing to dive on that 75 00:05:56,780 --> 00:06:00,620 I circled Jeff Brown's name because I'm a fan of Jeff Brown's name 76 00:06:00,620 --> 00:06:04,620 Jeff Brown's name because it's it's you know, we all all of you out there 77 00:06:05,100 --> 00:06:11,420 You you guys have all signed coaches that you just were less than happy with you're welcome to comment on how you feel about your past 78 00:06:11,420 --> 00:06:16,540 Coaching experiences. I know most people they're not too happy with how those engagements went 79 00:06:16,620 --> 00:06:19,980 So the fact Scott you speak that highly about Jeff says a lot 80 00:06:20,060 --> 00:06:24,060 Especially with the quality of a podcast and just human leader that you are 81 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:29,500 We're going to be talking about the value of management too in just a little bit now as we as we get ready to shift towards that though 82 00:06:29,500 --> 00:06:33,420 You've got a couple of decades of wisdom on your belt. I think you're at least 20 years old 83 00:06:34,060 --> 00:06:38,380 Um, and I appreciate the value of the wisdom that you carry with those decades 84 00:06:38,860 --> 00:06:39,980 so 85 00:06:39,980 --> 00:06:45,180 What are three resources that you recommend for visionary leaders that have helped you on this journey? 86 00:06:45,980 --> 00:06:50,300 So that first one i'm going to go back to the read to lead podcast to me. That is a big one 87 00:06:50,940 --> 00:06:55,980 Um, I believe and that's the theme of that podcast leaders are readers readers are leaders 88 00:06:55,980 --> 00:07:03,820 I think if you're any sort of leader or any sort of leadership position if you're not doing lifelong learning and continuously pouring into yourself 89 00:07:04,780 --> 00:07:06,780 You you're doing it wrong 90 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:08,940 You know 91 00:07:08,940 --> 00:07:12,460 That that is step number one and and actually in the frameworks I use you know 92 00:07:12,460 --> 00:07:16,940 One of the first things I talk about is investing in yourself and and that's a big piece of it 93 00:07:17,260 --> 00:07:24,460 The second resource I would do is and and I use disk for this uh disk being a personality and communication assessment tool 94 00:07:24,460 --> 00:07:27,100 um learning more about communication 95 00:07:27,500 --> 00:07:32,940 I would suggest disk is a methodology of that. There's other ones out there and and it could be other things 96 00:07:33,420 --> 00:07:39,980 But whether that's learning to do a ted talk whether that's investing in personal speaking and coaching around that area 97 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:44,940 I would use disk and and learning more about that as my actual suggestion 98 00:07:45,580 --> 00:07:51,420 It's the way finding a framework where you can understand not just how you communicate but how other people communicate 99 00:07:51,420 --> 00:07:54,460 So that you can actually talk to people 100 00:07:55,500 --> 00:08:00,380 And get your point across in a way that's effective and efficient and and works 101 00:08:01,020 --> 00:08:03,900 and then the third resource that I would give is 102 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:08,060 and and I may be kind of shortcutting or or 103 00:08:08,620 --> 00:08:13,660 circumventing what you were going to say but or or what you would uh what you would count as a resource is 104 00:08:14,060 --> 00:08:19,100 I honestly would suggest to people that having that 30 minutes of the day that they set aside 105 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:21,100 for white space time 106 00:08:21,180 --> 00:08:23,500 Is a resource and this is one that's free 107 00:08:24,060 --> 00:08:27,580 You know, you don't have to go pay somebody to do this 108 00:08:27,580 --> 00:08:33,020 But actually putting that appointment on your your calendar 30 minutes an hour 45 minutes 109 00:08:33,020 --> 00:08:35,100 Maybe it's even 15 is all you can squeak out 110 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:42,060 But doing it every day with consistency to have that blank time where you don't have anyone else that you're meeting with 111 00:08:42,060 --> 00:08:45,340 You don't have you're not talking to any of your assistants. You're not talking to anyone else 112 00:08:45,340 --> 00:08:49,020 But as a leader, you're spending some time in your own 113 00:08:50,060 --> 00:08:55,900 Thinking in your own planning in your own. What is important to me? What is my why? 114 00:08:55,900 --> 00:09:02,380 What am I doing that is actually connecting to what am I grateful for? You know those sorts of reflection 115 00:09:02,940 --> 00:09:04,940 Questions and looking forward questions 116 00:09:05,660 --> 00:09:09,020 That we all need to be doing with a real regular cadence 117 00:09:09,020 --> 00:09:13,500 And yet I think most of us don't set aside any kind of dedication to what we're doing 118 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:16,540 Set aside any kind of dedicated to time to do that 119 00:09:16,940 --> 00:09:19,260 Then we get to the end of the year and we look up and we're like, uh 120 00:09:19,980 --> 00:09:22,140 You know what what the heck happened this year? 121 00:09:22,940 --> 00:09:26,940 And it's just putting that on your calendar and then enforcing that and really living into that 122 00:09:27,580 --> 00:09:28,620 Whoo? 123 00:09:28,620 --> 00:09:35,420 I feel so validated. I'm gonna run around my chair real quick because I love that you said that it's such an important 124 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:41,420 Reality and and those of you listening. Yes celebrate life too my friends. It's such a great. Oh, it's absolutely the uh, 125 00:09:41,420 --> 00:09:47,260 30 minutes of white space. Nobody's put it that way. We've had a few people talk about the value of meditation 126 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:54,780 Um, and so we're gonna include the the chat gpt generated articles and guides that we created based on some of the props from the show 127 00:09:55,340 --> 00:09:57,660 Regarding meditation so that we can look into that 128 00:09:58,460 --> 00:10:04,940 The the process of of talking to other visionary leaders like scott like my friends. Those of you listening in 129 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:09,980 You might consider the value of how you know your own podcast can help shape 130 00:10:09,980 --> 00:10:16,380 And refine your own vision. I cannot even begin to describe the amount of transformations that this helped me accomplish as a leader 131 00:10:16,700 --> 00:10:18,700 So about two weeks ago 132 00:10:18,700 --> 00:10:23,580 I asked my assistant. I said hey angie. Can you do me a favor? I want to start having 133 00:10:24,220 --> 00:10:29,020 30 minute prayer and meditation gaps after every single one of my meetings 134 00:10:29,820 --> 00:10:35,900 Um, I I don't and I know we're gonna have to work our work on that for the schedule to get to be that often but 135 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:41,100 That's my new commitment level to what you talked about. You're talking about one 30 minute white space 136 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:44,220 Which I which I absolutely appreciate at least start there 137 00:10:44,860 --> 00:10:49,420 Yeah, and I know for myself. I'm just so good at shiny object syndrome 138 00:10:49,420 --> 00:10:53,660 Um, right. It's hard to do the full 30 minutes. And so if I only put 30 minutes 139 00:10:53,660 --> 00:10:56,540 I'll probably only do three minutes if not 30 seconds 140 00:10:57,020 --> 00:11:00,940 Um, right. So the ability to kind of put that in helps me get more of a discipline 141 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:03,740 Many of you here on the show too at 2 30 142 00:11:03,740 --> 00:11:07,740 Dong a bell goes off on my on my clock during the show 143 00:11:08,460 --> 00:11:11,740 That's my prayer bell. It reminds me to 144 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:17,100 Say a prayer no matter what i'm doing what i'm in the middle of I can do two things simultaneously 145 00:11:17,340 --> 00:11:21,020 Just like i'm gonna use two hands at once as well. No matter what science says 146 00:11:21,820 --> 00:11:26,300 And I love that you talked about disc disc is a definitely one of my favorite assessments 147 00:11:26,940 --> 00:11:28,140 disc 148 00:11:28,140 --> 00:11:29,020 colby 149 00:11:29,020 --> 00:11:31,020 meyers-briggs and strengths findings 150 00:11:31,020 --> 00:11:38,380 Colby meyers-briggs and strengths finder 2.0 colby strengths finder are my two favorites if you had to boil down into 151 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:43,500 One any of those four are good starting points if you haven't used those I highly recommend 152 00:11:44,380 --> 00:11:47,420 Maybe 30 minutes of white space 15 goes to white space 153 00:11:47,740 --> 00:11:53,500 15 goes to starting to understand which assessments can help you progress if you're really that time 154 00:11:54,060 --> 00:11:56,540 Limited so it's got those are phenomenal resources again 155 00:11:56,540 --> 00:12:02,460 We're going to come back these tools are some of the best tools on earth for management in general 156 00:12:02,460 --> 00:12:06,540 So scott you've already delivered but we're going to come back diving deeper with your vision for 157 00:12:07,260 --> 00:12:11,420 Management and the value of it and how we're both implementing that and our brands and one of our clients 158 00:12:11,820 --> 00:12:18,060 And vision pros will see you guys on the other side. All right, welcome in to vision pros live with jackson callum 159 00:12:18,060 --> 00:12:19,020 I'm your show host 160 00:12:19,020 --> 00:12:26,800 We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there 161 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:39,740 What's up everybody welcome into another episode of vision pros live i'm your show host jackson callum founder 162 00:12:40,620 --> 00:12:46,380 And ceo of first class business. I literally almost forgot my name right there. Um, that was awesome 163 00:12:46,380 --> 00:12:51,740 I've got scott mater on today and scott is from a he has a show called inspired stewardship and 164 00:12:52,460 --> 00:12:56,940 To be honest with you guys when I first heard of it like I did not care if he was even good at it or not 165 00:12:56,940 --> 00:13:05,420 I was just so excited to hear somebody use the words inspired and stewardship together and to focus their life and attention on that 166 00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:09,260 Now in all reality, he is quite awesome at both of those things 167 00:13:09,260 --> 00:13:10,380 He inspired me tremendously 168 00:13:10,380 --> 00:13:15,900 I was excited to get him to come over to our show and and get to interview him about all things scott 169 00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:18,940 And management happens to be the topic of choice for the day 170 00:13:18,940 --> 00:13:22,140 He's got depths well beyond that in terms of marriage family 171 00:13:22,620 --> 00:13:27,580 All the good vibes and things we typically stand for on vision pros scott's become a great friend and 172 00:13:28,220 --> 00:13:32,380 He does get a little bit of an automatic pass because he's also in texas and we have a thing for texans 173 00:13:33,020 --> 00:13:37,020 Um, so on the the sponsorship side, we have some resources for you as well 174 00:13:37,020 --> 00:13:41,180 Uh, we swapped one out today. We had a new surprise one. So we've got open eyes at the raja part of latinos 175 00:13:41,180 --> 00:13:43,180 That's opportunities for work for latinos 176 00:13:43,180 --> 00:13:48,220 Our program opportunities has now expanded into the philippines and into india as well 177 00:13:48,220 --> 00:13:49,740 And what we're doing is well 178 00:13:49,740 --> 00:13:55,980 We're looking for leaders that come from those cultural backgrounds who want to be on those podcasts because we have spanish podcasts 179 00:13:55,980 --> 00:14:01,020 We got the indian podcast coming out. We got the philippinos podcast leaders who will inspire 180 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:06,860 The rest of the world the people were trying to we're bridging the economic gap to north america south america rest of world 181 00:14:06,860 --> 00:14:09,420 And while that doesn't necessarily directly affect you 182 00:14:09,420 --> 00:14:15,020 Most of you out there have explored the idea of va relationships. You call it virtual assistance 183 00:14:15,580 --> 00:14:17,580 We call it virtual abuse 184 00:14:17,580 --> 00:14:23,580 I'm really i'm just really sad and tired of seeing so many entrepreneurs not taking interest in the lives of the people 185 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:29,120 That they're helping and we try to facilitate a relationship between what we call digital ambassadors 186 00:14:29,420 --> 00:14:36,540 Which are very well-trained virtual assistants and the ability to help and support entrepreneurs who are going to take care of them and help them 187 00:14:36,540 --> 00:14:41,200 Build an awesome vision for their lives. So that inspires you let us know go and check out opportunities 188 00:14:41,820 --> 00:14:47,100 Organize the dns.com for for the people who speak spanish then there's learn and grow rich 189 00:14:47,660 --> 00:14:52,060 Um when I saw zack omen's brand, I like immediate red flags 190 00:14:52,060 --> 00:14:55,020 I was like i'm gonna grow rich sounds so spammy and so 191 00:14:55,580 --> 00:15:01,820 Like but their values their virtues learn and grow and be rich rich is an abundant virtue 192 00:15:01,820 --> 00:15:06,060 And be rich rich is an abundant virtue. Zack is an abundant man 193 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:09,740 I have fallen in love with this man in the best of ways for business 194 00:15:10,140 --> 00:15:14,540 He abides by the same principles of first class business has which is why i'm excited to announce 195 00:15:15,100 --> 00:15:19,100 Zack omen is our new chief financial officer at first class business 196 00:15:19,580 --> 00:15:23,660 And the reason why we've chosen zack above all the others that we've worked with in the past is 197 00:15:24,060 --> 00:15:30,860 Zack's at scale. He offers his services to the world and has built procedures resources and templates to help him do that 198 00:15:30,860 --> 00:15:36,940 And his executive prowess to talk deeply about things that are difficult and hard and do so in a fun way 199 00:15:37,340 --> 00:15:39,660 And also explain things with extreme clarity 200 00:15:40,620 --> 00:15:44,380 I am so grateful for having found zack omen in life 201 00:15:44,540 --> 00:15:47,260 And if you're looking for somebody to help on the financial side 202 00:15:47,740 --> 00:15:51,100 There's a reason I hired him the only thing that I am asking you not to do 203 00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:55,820 Please don't contract him at a financial level where he has to abandon first class business 204 00:15:55,820 --> 00:16:00,860 Um, that is the big favor that I ask that is one of the reasons why entrepreneurs don't share their best resources 205 00:16:00,860 --> 00:16:03,340 But i'm like nope if he wants to stay he'll stay 206 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:07,260 But I highly recommend always recruiting the best of the best 207 00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:12,540 By going after them as the best of the best not in fear or worry or doubt 208 00:16:12,780 --> 00:16:14,780 Otherwise, they probably won't want to work with you 209 00:16:15,260 --> 00:16:19,820 Then there's the water project the water project is something that is near and dear to my heart these days 210 00:16:20,540 --> 00:16:25,020 As I meditated like mike scott said took time for the white space to think through this 211 00:16:25,020 --> 00:16:29,020 And I I had to i've never been thirsty in my life not like truly 212 00:16:29,580 --> 00:16:36,220 In thirst these kids these families they have to sometimes go three to five miles just to find a source of water 213 00:16:36,620 --> 00:16:38,460 It's oftentimes not clean 214 00:16:38,460 --> 00:16:41,820 You can imagine what that would be like to have to go find water in a ditch or something 215 00:16:42,140 --> 00:16:44,380 And it broke my heart as I thought about it 216 00:16:44,380 --> 00:16:48,140 And it also made me realize that wow we got millions of people out there 217 00:16:48,620 --> 00:16:54,380 Who are able and willing to celebrate access to clean water the way my children celebrate 218 00:16:54,380 --> 00:16:57,820 And celebrate christmas day and even beyond probably 219 00:16:58,220 --> 00:17:02,700 And the water project to set this up to where you get to pick the community that you're going to support 220 00:17:02,780 --> 00:17:04,780 So you get to see the project come to fruition 221 00:17:04,780 --> 00:17:10,460 They give you updates by social evidence or proof that it did happen and you get to learn about how these projects 222 00:17:10,860 --> 00:17:13,740 Um occur sand dams borehole wells, etc 223 00:17:14,060 --> 00:17:19,420 Really cool process to be involved in again. I'm no i'm not affiliated with this project. It just inspires me figure 224 00:17:19,500 --> 00:17:20,780 it's one of the most 225 00:17:20,780 --> 00:17:22,780 needed resources on earth 226 00:17:22,780 --> 00:17:26,860 And I gotta do my part i'm gonna rock this microphone to inspire people to talk about it 227 00:17:27,500 --> 00:17:33,100 If you've got the financial power to invest in it or to give back to please do if you don't 228 00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:37,660 My hope is that you'll at least take the time to talk to somebody about it because you never know they might end up 229 00:17:37,660 --> 00:17:42,940 Donating 10 000 or 100 000 or doing something beyond we've got 8 billion people to help 230 00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:45,660 So if you're thinking of another cause that's near and dear to your heart 231 00:17:46,380 --> 00:17:50,380 Drop the link in the comments. Let us know about it. It's something that I will personally explore 232 00:17:50,380 --> 00:17:53,500 Or my team will probably explore we might talk about on the show again 233 00:17:53,500 --> 00:17:58,060 We have so much opportunity to do good in subtle and small ways that sometimes we take for granted 234 00:17:58,540 --> 00:18:02,060 I hope you join me in that effort without further ado scott mater 235 00:18:02,060 --> 00:18:06,700 Thank you for being here to bless the lives of our visionaries. Welcome to vision pros live 236 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:10,480 Thanks so much. I'm happy to be here. Yeah, absolutely 237 00:18:11,260 --> 00:18:17,580 So scott, um as we talk about the value of management, we've got the ability to cover the basics that chat gbt could cover 238 00:18:17,580 --> 00:18:22,540 Um, you know or to help people with a basic search of what is management or what is manager? 239 00:18:22,540 --> 00:18:25,020 I think we kind of got to cover that but i'm really looking forward to 240 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:29,980 To dive into some of the heftier aspects of management some of the ways that we may 241 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:31,900 overlook 242 00:18:31,900 --> 00:18:36,140 How we may not be applying it as visionaries and how do we remove some of those blind spots for people? 243 00:18:36,540 --> 00:18:40,780 That are tuning in so i'm going to leave it that broad. Where do you want to be in? 244 00:18:41,740 --> 00:18:44,860 You know, I I think and i'm going to go back to something that you said 245 00:18:44,860 --> 00:18:48,380 Uh while you were sharing some of the resources a moment ago 246 00:18:49,020 --> 00:18:55,500 I think a lot of times we look at management as kind of the operational stuff 247 00:18:55,900 --> 00:19:00,060 It's kind of like what i was talking about with the podcast coach, right where it's all about the the technical stuff 248 00:19:00,620 --> 00:19:06,780 And for me and it's honestly it's why my brand is inspired stewardship is I look at management 249 00:19:06,860 --> 00:19:10,540 I look at leadership. I look at those things through that lens of stewardship 250 00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:15,980 What does stewardship mean right stewardship means whatever resources i've been blessed with by god 251 00:19:17,020 --> 00:19:22,940 My job is to manage those resources not own them not control them not hold on to them 252 00:19:23,260 --> 00:19:25,260 but manage those resources 253 00:19:25,740 --> 00:19:28,540 not just for my benefit but for the benefit of 254 00:19:29,180 --> 00:19:35,340 Everyone around me that could be my clients that could be my customers that can be my employees that could be that va 255 00:19:35,340 --> 00:19:42,860 You know that we're mistreating that could be the people that don't have water that could be all of those things that you were just talking 256 00:19:42,940 --> 00:19:45,900 about are part and parcel of that circle of 257 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,540 managing 258 00:19:48,540 --> 00:19:55,340 Those resources that we're blessed with and so for me it's changing that frame of reference is where we have to start 259 00:19:55,740 --> 00:19:58,220 Because everything else comes secondary to that 260 00:19:58,380 --> 00:20:02,380 I think that's a lot of where the shiny object syndrome and all of those other things come from 261 00:20:02,380 --> 00:20:05,900 Is we're looking at everything from a very 262 00:20:06,940 --> 00:20:10,860 Practical bottom line, you know nuts and bolts kind of 263 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:17,500 mindset when if we reframe it and look at it as a stewardship a gifting a 264 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,300 Management kind of mindset not ownership sort of mindset 265 00:20:22,380 --> 00:20:28,220 It begins to let us look at these things a little differently and think about things a little bit differently and make decisions 266 00:20:28,220 --> 00:20:34,080 differently I love that what you're exploring is something I think we have a really hard time to 267 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,560 hard time doing 268 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,000 especially as 269 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:40,000 english-speaking Americans 270 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,480 And and I it's not 271 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,400 It's not so much a call out on our culture or our politics as it is 272 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,320 When you live in europe and you've got several languages around you, right? 273 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,560 The you realize that there's lots of definitions to lots of different words 274 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:59,680 Um, our mixing pot is you know, our melting pot in america is starting to kind of get that but 275 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,040 If we isolate around one concept of love 276 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:09,920 Right. We we may like the romantic love we may miss out on the understanding that that love's more universal than that 277 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,260 There's more applications you're talking about that from a management standpoint a metric kpis 278 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,640 I think a lot of people end up saying well, it's not about the numbers 279 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:24,240 It's about the people behind the numbers and yes and yes, you know, why are we creating a fight? 280 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:27,120 About an opportunity to explore 281 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,740 That maybe there's more definitions or paradigms or perspectives 282 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:37,760 And we don't quite have access to and I love that you're talking about that the one-minute manager another great easy resource 283 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,720 That that talks more about the human side of being there for people 284 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,200 um in a quick efficient 285 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,960 Diplomatic way, uh to help people achieve great results. So yeah, let's dive further into that 286 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,080 Uh, you know, you were just talking about the one minute management manager and we talked about disk earlier 287 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,760 I'll give you a real world example. So I worked in the corporate world for 11 years, right? 288 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:05,200 I was a senior leader. I had leaders reporting to me. I had staff reporting to me had a big team 289 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,160 You know all of those sorts of things and this was right at the same time that I began learning about disk 290 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,520 And I realized real quickly. Wait a minute. I'm 291 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:19,600 I'm a dc so i'm a high driver high results oriented guy very task oriented very 292 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,000 You know set up the systems in the processes. Those are my giftings. That's what i'm really good at 293 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,240 Well a large portion of my staff weren't wired like me 294 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:34,000 You know, they were on the other side. They were much more the s's and the i's which were more interested in 295 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:39,520 In fun and or status quo and people connection and those sorts of things 296 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:45,760 So I literally set up a an event on my calendar that popped up every wednesday at a certain time 297 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:47,920 And it would list three people's names 298 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,440 And I had to get up from my desk leave my office and go to the cubicle of those three people 299 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,760 And visit with them for five or ten minutes 300 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,560 They were my essence. They were those people that needed that people connection 301 00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,080 Now those of you that know disk are like wait eyes also need the people connection 302 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,280 But remember eyes were coming to my office. I didn't need to go see Chris 303 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:13,120 They came to me, okay, you know, they they stopped by in the morning. Hey, how you doing? It's like, yeah, i'm doing great 304 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:15,600 So I visited with them. I was already having contact with them 305 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:19,200 But the s's would just sit there and keep their head down and get their job done 306 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,680 And nobody would ever go check in on them. Well, I started doing that 307 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,240 And what was amazing is the productivity of my team? 308 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:30,800 like doubled 309 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,000 And it wasn't I didn't it wasn't anything weird, you know in terms of I didn't have a job 310 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,640 Weird, you know in terms of I didn't do anything magical 311 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:43,520 But what I did was I just let them feel like a human being and it was magical to them 312 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,720 I reached them the way they wanted to be reached, you know 313 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,320 And and by the way, they knew there was an event on my calendar 314 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,160 They knew that their name came up, you know on a schedule 315 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,800 They knew that I took notes while we were talking so that I would remember, you know 316 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,760 Oh their kids names and that kind of you know, I was I was making an effort to actually learn them 317 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,720 They knew that it was work for me in a way, you know 318 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,960 They they understood all of that and that actually made it more valuable to them 319 00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:15,920 Not less because people are like, well, it wasn't really authentic if it kind of had to pop up on a calendar. It's like 320 00:24:16,860 --> 00:24:19,920 Absolutely. It was authentic. It was authentic for them, you know 321 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:27,200 You cultivated that you put the effort into generating that because you valued them that much. I love it 322 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:33,200 Yeah, and and so that's an example of and again, it's that framework of looking at it not as a 323 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,280 Oh, I'm I didn't do it so that productivity would go up 324 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:44,000 Yeah, I did it to connect another big thing on the calendars, right a calendar most people 325 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,280 So I could be wrong 326 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:50,800 But I think most people associate the calendar and the task or the activity on the calendar 327 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,560 As something that is a chore that has to be done 328 00:24:54,560 --> 00:25:00,000 But in my life my calendar is chock full of things that I get to do 329 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:05,520 They're the opportunities in my day. They're the things that i'm excited about doing because i've created a life 330 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,480 Around doing the things that I love doing 331 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:17,040 So there's if if we have that mindset that the calendar is a chore and the things that I'm stuck doing on here are negative to me 332 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:23,680 Then it's actually if that's your mindset, that's you stuck with that. Nobody's forcing you look at the system 333 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,400 In that way, so keep going scott. It was a beautiful example 334 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,320 Well, and and that brings us to the other framework if you know 335 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:33,840 We tend to put things and I think this is a very western culture 336 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,200 American kind of mindset thing and it gets back to what you were talking about 337 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,800 We tend to want to put things into either or kinds of boxes, you know 338 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,880 So either my calendar is a chore and everything on it is horrible 339 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:49,280 Or I get to live the life I want and I'm spontaneous and you know 340 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:54,720 I just kind of live freely and come as you know, yolo and all of that and it's like 341 00:25:55,040 --> 00:26:04,240 Okay, real truth is that's two extremes, you know that that's two ends to this long continuum with a bazillion data points in between the two 342 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:07,120 Why do we say there's two? 343 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:12,000 There's a million, you know and more often than not it's a both and so guess what? 344 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,120 There are days on my calendar when I block off a whole day 345 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:20,400 To just do whatever you know, and and and if i'm not real productive that day 346 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:22,560 Okay 347 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,920 That day wasn't set up to be a productive day that day was set up to do 348 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:26,880 You know 349 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:32,640 It was intentional or to rest or to recharge or to it was intentionally set aside 350 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,880 And I can choose to be spontaneous too. If something comes up on my calendar 351 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:41,360 It's like, you know what? I'd rather do this other thing than that. Okay, I can choose to do that 352 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:44,880 But the trick is to make that active choice 353 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,960 I I think the framework and we all do this and it's you just said it 354 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,160 We have that I had to do it mindset and that's one of the first things I get 355 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:58,240 I try to break my clients from saying, you know, I had to do this. No, no 356 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,240 Likewise, likewise 357 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,240 You chose to do it 358 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,840 We do not have to use the word have to need to 359 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,320 No, gosh, I'm obligated 360 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:16,160 Gosh, I'm obligated it shows that gave you the power because otherwise you're advocating your power. You're right literally saying I have no power 361 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:17,920 Oh 362 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:24,480 And you're you're a slave to whatever my language right exactly the old man 363 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:30,640 Our language our language is how we see the world. That is the reality we create. It's 364 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:36,480 The way we describe things people don't understand how incredibly 365 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:37,580 incredibly 366 00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:42,980 Powerful it is to just tweak the word. We're gonna play a game real quick. So here's here's our visionaries 367 00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:45,380 If you're writing down right now 368 00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:49,140 I have to fix my language. You're missing 369 00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:51,700 You're missing the point 370 00:27:51,780 --> 00:27:57,700 I get to I get to choose to I have an opportunity to I want to 371 00:27:58,340 --> 00:28:01,940 Right. What a blessing it is to there's there's so many 372 00:28:01,940 --> 00:28:08,580 Alternative mindsets and I know most of most most people in the world would kind of like man. They're just lost in the fluff 373 00:28:09,140 --> 00:28:11,140 Man, I'm happy in the fluff 374 00:28:11,460 --> 00:28:16,260 Fluff is what really changes thing. I'm happy right you said something earlier. I want to call us back 375 00:28:16,260 --> 00:28:21,540 I want to go back to this attention point because it was such a beautifully articulated form of leadership 376 00:28:21,540 --> 00:28:26,780 That is so uncommon in the world that would dramatically increase profitability 377 00:28:26,780 --> 00:28:33,500 Increase productivity and to help people connect at such a such a bigger level level you had a chance to say 378 00:28:34,820 --> 00:28:36,420 the VA 379 00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:41,620 That they are mistreating or the VA that you are mistreating 380 00:28:42,540 --> 00:28:44,540 You chose to say 381 00:28:44,580 --> 00:28:46,740 the VA that we 382 00:28:47,660 --> 00:28:55,020 Are mistreating we're and which means and I was like I love that you said that because oh, I'm guilty as charged 383 00:28:55,020 --> 00:29:01,540 Of course with not being perfect with my relationships. I am a human being who is fallible 384 00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:03,540 I have lots to learn in life and 385 00:29:03,820 --> 00:29:10,300 The opportunity to help leaders step into owning that we're still moving. We're gonna make mistakes 386 00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:13,900 We've made mistakes in the past. We're all learning will create to me 387 00:29:13,900 --> 00:29:17,580 I think that's one of the greatest keys to creating more trust 388 00:29:18,660 --> 00:29:20,340 better conflict 389 00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:27,260 More results within companies. Thank you Patrick Lynch only five dysfunctions of a team, you know for talking through that. That's a great resource 390 00:29:28,180 --> 00:29:29,940 where 391 00:29:29,940 --> 00:29:36,860 have you always been able to speak with this concept of we when it came to negativity and 392 00:29:38,020 --> 00:29:45,700 How did you make that transition and so visionaries listening in if you've got executives working with your team members working with you 393 00:29:45,700 --> 00:29:51,720 I can almost guarantee you that somebody in your life is struggling with this concept even if you're already past it 394 00:29:51,940 --> 00:29:56,640 Learning to articulate it and approach it is a great thing to do to strengthen the power of your team 395 00:29:56,860 --> 00:30:00,220 Scott how'd you how'd you get to where you include yourself in those moments? 396 00:30:00,220 --> 00:30:05,220 You know, I first off the the question was, you know, have I always been like that? Absolutely not 397 00:30:05,380 --> 00:30:10,420 I think for me a lot of it came out of my so my first career, you know 398 00:30:10,420 --> 00:30:13,000 I'm like a lot of us. I've done a lot of different things in my life 399 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,600 my first career was actually as a school teacher and 400 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,880 For 16 years I taught in the public school system. I taught science. I taught in a private school 401 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,600 you know, I've taught in those kind of environments and 402 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:29,640 I think that believe it or not is where a lot of my real leadership 403 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:37,620 Training came in and and beginning to learn to change some of the ways I say things some of the ways 404 00:30:37,620 --> 00:30:41,240 I think about things some of the ways I do things and at first glance 405 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,240 You know somebody that's been in the corporate world their whole life is like school teaching teaches you about 406 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:49,600 But it does because a lot of ignorance in the corporate world. I'm gonna say it for us 407 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:56,620 You're in a room with a hundred and you know 150 people throughout the day. I mean, it's not all in 150 408 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:03,780 In subordinate in the vid people who don't want to be there don't want to learn a lot of times and don't really respect you 409 00:31:03,780 --> 00:31:09,940 And go ahead and and don't have any real fire reason. I can't fire them. I can't get rid of them 410 00:31:09,940 --> 00:31:16,920 So I had to learn to be like, okay. I've got to manage this environment. I've got a lead in this environment 411 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,840 I've got to get them to buy in and 412 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:26,600 So I began to shift the way I talked about things and like you were talking about I versus we or you versus we 413 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:32,220 You know it that's a small shift, but it's a big shift because all of a sudden it's like, okay 414 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,060 We've got this situation 415 00:31:34,060 --> 00:31:40,060 How are we going to fix it? And once they learn that you really meant that and you actually want their input 416 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:47,460 And that their inputs valuable and that you may actually even take their input and do what they also they're like 417 00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:52,000 Well, wait a minute. We can do something different. Yeah, we can do something different. What are you? What do we need? 418 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,980 You know what what how can we make this situation different? 419 00:31:54,980 --> 00:32:01,320 And so it's that balancing act of and that doesn't mean it's lawless and everybody gets to do whatever they want whatever they want 420 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:07,040 That's again one extreme of a continuum and there's a lot of points, but it also means I'm not running a top-down 421 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:14,380 You know walk in here and everybody's in handcuffs and sits in the same chair and does everything the same way every day 422 00:32:14,380 --> 00:32:21,680 You know, there's a continuum and we work along that continuum and it really comes back to that framework 423 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:27,020 That's when I started to learn it and then when I went into the corporate world, I realized oh wow 424 00:32:27,020 --> 00:32:33,120 You know the the same skills that I was applying there apply here 425 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,520 And now as a coach same thing the same skills 426 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:42,360 I was applying there apply here in marriage same thing nonprofit world same thing, you know 427 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,840 I feel so ignorant right now and 428 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:52,120 That's one of those opportunities right as as leaders like do we choose to embrace that or hide from a run for? 429 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:59,200 Put ourselves down for it. I can fully wholeheartedly say I feel ignorant without feeling any lack of confidence visionaries 430 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,000 Because we're all learning right? It's it's an opportunity. So 431 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,340 You've hit something I for all you listening who are gonna be like, oh my gosh, I can't believe it and see that 432 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,600 No, I couldn't I couldn't see that teachers had that powerful management 433 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:21,640 Skill set until Scott just now opened my eyes to it even though I've been saying that for years about stay-at-home parents 434 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:26,240 And how parents are some of the best managers in the entire world? 435 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:32,160 and if they ever do want to go into the corporate world and they need to go in with absolute confidence and self-assuredness that 436 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:37,680 They know how to help people win because that's exactly what you do as a stay-at-home parent 437 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,660 You can't fire kids you have to and you want to love them 438 00:33:40,660 --> 00:33:43,260 so there's an there's an incredible amount of 439 00:33:43,780 --> 00:33:51,660 wisdom leadership and stewardship that comes out of that and the hospitality industry as well as one another you can't fire your 440 00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:56,700 Guests or no matter how rude they are and how bad they might be at the table 441 00:33:56,940 --> 00:34:03,660 You got to find a way to serve them and serve them in a way where they at least feel loved whether you love them or not 442 00:34:03,780 --> 00:34:05,580 That's still your choice 443 00:34:05,580 --> 00:34:08,460 But I didn't think about the even back 444 00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:14,300 I was a teacher. I was a I was a waiter. That's another one. You know, I was a waiter in a restaurant 445 00:34:14,300 --> 00:34:16,860 Yeah, that's the same thing. You have to learn the same sort of skill set 446 00:34:16,860 --> 00:34:20,300 So if I think about it, I cannot wait to recruit more teachers now 447 00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:26,340 Like you've just empowered me to realize that strong connection there and and help connect that sometimes it's about 448 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:30,620 Opening people's eyes to visions. They're not looking at to right? 449 00:34:30,620 --> 00:34:34,320 So again, that's back to that we tend to put things in boxes, you know 450 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,120 It teaching is a skills and and again, is this true of every teacher? Oh 451 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:46,400 Probably not but but it is true of the really good teachers stop and think for a minute the teacher that you remember 452 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:52,600 And most of us have it that that teacher or two that we're like man, you know, mrs. Jackson 453 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:58,040 She was awesome, you know, you know, whoever it was right you've somebody could you say it right now? 454 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,120 Richard Gonzalez 455 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:05,800 Mrs. Patterson I had some great teachers, but those were the teachers that I'm talking about 456 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,000 You know, those are the ones that you realize 457 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:14,080 Oh you felt empowered you felt even if it was a subject some of sometimes they were in this class that I was like 458 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,600 I was the worst at 459 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,320 You know, but they were so good because they still made me feel valued. They still made me feel important 460 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,120 They still made me feel like I was able to to make progress 461 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:29,120 Even if it wasn't something that just came naturally to me or I was gifted in or whatever 462 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:34,600 Those are the teachers and that's the skill set that I'm talking about because we also all have that other teacher 463 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,480 that we 464 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,080 Say that name 465 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,040 Nope, she doesn't get the credit. Nope not happening 466 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,920 Don't say those names, but we all have that teacher too. That's like 467 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:49,560 you know same thing happens in the 468 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:54,520 Working world, right? We all have the bosses that were bosses and we all have the boss 469 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,520 neat those work bosses, I respect the management in a different way to because 470 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:06,020 When we learn to when we learn to self-manage, right when I've learned to get the most out of my management capacities 471 00:36:06,020 --> 00:36:12,400 I can reflect on that really awful teacher and how many lessons I learned on how not to lead 472 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,000 I can also reflect. Oh, yeah times when I was able to 473 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:21,280 Overcome certain situations or other students were able to overcome certain situations 474 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:27,900 So the history book is still wide open and it is powerful to learn from the good the bad and the ugly 475 00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:31,320 You can always learn something you just gotta figure out what you're supposed to learn 476 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,540 You know, everything has lessons in it. Absolutely 477 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,080 Even if the lesson is oh, I don't want to do it that way 478 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,640 Speaking of lessons my absolute favorite question to ask 479 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:47,740 Scott if this was the last opportunity you had to share advice with the world and share something powerful 480 00:36:47,740 --> 00:36:50,580 What powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience? 481 00:36:50,580 --> 00:36:56,660 you know, I think that the most powerful thing that I've learned is that frame that I've shared earlier of 482 00:36:57,060 --> 00:37:01,300 moving from trying to put everything into either or kinds of boxes and 483 00:37:01,860 --> 00:37:05,620 beginning to look at the world as more of a blend of both and of 484 00:37:06,620 --> 00:37:08,260 finding a way 485 00:37:08,260 --> 00:37:10,380 that you can have as 486 00:37:11,180 --> 00:37:16,860 Many of the pros from as many different parts of it as you can and limit the cons, you know 487 00:37:16,860 --> 00:37:19,380 Right have as many wins for as many people 488 00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:23,940 with as few downsides for as many people and those sorts of 489 00:37:24,580 --> 00:37:26,100 thinking 490 00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,940 Where it's not a matter of thinking about it from 491 00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:35,140 You know, how are we gonna make this happen? It's just this is going to happen now 492 00:37:35,140 --> 00:37:37,580 Our our trick is just to figure out the route 493 00:37:37,980 --> 00:37:39,980 It's going to work out that way 494 00:37:39,980 --> 00:37:42,980 What route do we need to take to get there? 495 00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:47,420 because I think a lot of the times the reason we don't do that as leaders is because 496 00:37:47,420 --> 00:37:50,860 we get tempted to look for the quick and the short and the easy and 497 00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:54,940 Usually the paths that lead to the most wins 498 00:37:56,060 --> 00:38:02,260 Involved going out of your way. They involve taking a few extra steps. They involve bringing in some more resources 499 00:38:02,260 --> 00:38:06,220 They involve widening the circle as opposed to narrowing the circle 500 00:38:06,220 --> 00:38:14,860 And so it's finding those ways to widen your circle and look for the both and rather than the either or I love that and so 501 00:38:14,860 --> 00:38:17,900 I don't know if it's more tricky or not in our current world 502 00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:21,660 But it because I didn't live in the past world, but it feels like it, you know 503 00:38:21,660 --> 00:38:26,660 We live in a world of gamified opportunities, right and I there's nothing 504 00:38:27,180 --> 00:38:32,700 Negative about that in and of itself, but if we've built our life around apps and mechanisms 505 00:38:33,340 --> 00:38:34,540 Jeopardy 506 00:38:34,540 --> 00:38:38,940 Again newer apps that put you on a time limit for everything that you do, right? 507 00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:40,940 You're trying to race the clock to get it done 508 00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:45,260 That's where you get the reward and the highest form of compensation and yada yada like 509 00:38:45,740 --> 00:38:50,060 It's hard with all of that external time based pressure 510 00:38:51,020 --> 00:38:56,300 To take a step back and appreciate the value of well, this is my favorite mouse pad in the world 511 00:38:57,260 --> 00:39:00,140 the effective executive by dr. Peter Drucker 512 00:39:01,580 --> 00:39:08,620 And it's a constant reminder for me about his chapter know thy time and understanding that 513 00:39:08,620 --> 00:39:10,540 you know, it's 514 00:39:10,540 --> 00:39:12,860 My best thing to do might be to go sit on a wall 515 00:39:13,580 --> 00:39:15,100 for two hours 516 00:39:15,100 --> 00:39:16,140 Hmm 517 00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:18,140 Go for a walk 518 00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:23,260 I love walking. I do the walking more than the sitting because I'm in a stationary place most of the day 519 00:39:23,900 --> 00:39:27,900 And that's usually how I pray. Oh my best is when I go on a walk 520 00:39:28,460 --> 00:39:32,300 It's easier for me. It's some of my best reflection time is going on a walk 521 00:39:33,180 --> 00:39:35,900 I don't close my eyes right when I'm walking across the road 522 00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:39,100 By any means, but um, you know, you gotta be safe and how you do these things 523 00:39:39,100 --> 00:39:41,100 But you don't have to close your eyes to pray though 524 00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:43,340 exactly 525 00:39:43,340 --> 00:39:45,340 and so the 526 00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:49,900 The challenge for all of us is in a world where almost 527 00:39:50,540 --> 00:39:56,380 Or we just have constant bombardment of get this done fast finish this to-do list get all these things finished 528 00:39:56,380 --> 00:39:58,380 You have time on them to do this 529 00:39:58,380 --> 00:40:01,340 Do we do we have the self-discipline the self-management skills? 530 00:40:01,980 --> 00:40:03,580 to say 531 00:40:03,580 --> 00:40:06,060 I'm in control not that timer 532 00:40:06,780 --> 00:40:13,340 Well, and it's also changing the frame where it's because here's the thing we wear busy as a badge of honor, right? 533 00:40:13,340 --> 00:40:17,900 I think about busy is broke busy is broke. All we talk about is busy, right? 534 00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:20,700 If somebody asks you how are you doing? 535 00:40:21,180 --> 00:40:25,340 90 of the time we give one of two answers. The answer one is I'm doing okay 536 00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:29,580 Which is really just a non kind of generic way of saying please don't talk to me anymore 537 00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:35,500 Let's move on and the other answer is I'm busy. I mean, that's what we say in our culture 538 00:40:35,500 --> 00:40:40,460 Those are the two answers. Here's what busy means busy means. I got a lot of things done 539 00:40:42,060 --> 00:40:45,340 It has no it says nothing about the value of those things 540 00:40:46,060 --> 00:40:50,060 So literally if you sat in your backyard and you picked up a rock and you walk to the other side of the yard 541 00:40:50,060 --> 00:40:54,620 You drop a rock you walk over you pick up another rock you drop and you did that all day long 542 00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:59,100 You just moved rocks from one side of the yard to the other side of the yard you you qualify as busy 543 00:40:59,660 --> 00:41:04,780 Okay, most of us would not say that's a real productive day, but you bet you're busy 544 00:41:05,100 --> 00:41:11,020 So, you know, that's where I try to talk to people about being productive or or walking on the things that are truly 545 00:41:11,580 --> 00:41:15,980 I only want to question for you about those things. I'm gonna rudely interrupt you 546 00:41:15,980 --> 00:41:18,780 I get to do that because it's a podcast guys. Oh, right 547 00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:22,060 But I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that 548 00:41:22,060 --> 00:41:25,100 Because it's a podcast guys. Um, right, but here we go 549 00:41:25,180 --> 00:41:29,100 This is so important to me and i'm hoping this helps also other visionaries 550 00:41:29,660 --> 00:41:33,580 You chose to include yourself as a leader and saying, you know 551 00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:38,540 We like to say 90 percent time that we are busy and i'm learning as a leader 552 00:41:39,580 --> 00:41:43,500 When I don't actually use certain words because i've trained myself out of it 553 00:41:44,140 --> 00:41:50,620 Um, is it appropriate for me to continue to say we related to that when i've kind of abandoned it entirely or not? 554 00:41:50,620 --> 00:41:52,620 And so i've got to ask you scott 555 00:41:52,860 --> 00:41:59,660 Do you actually tell people you're busy still these days or is that a habit that you abandon at some point along the way? 556 00:41:59,740 --> 00:42:05,180 What does it look like for you? I I probably am not completely broken that answer out of my my language 557 00:42:05,180 --> 00:42:10,540 There's probably still times when i'll say that I tend to say i'm productive more than i'm busy 558 00:42:11,100 --> 00:42:13,100 You know or or something like that 559 00:42:13,420 --> 00:42:19,500 But yeah, there's still times I say it. Um, I want to hear your perspective on my culturally it fits sometimes, you know 560 00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:22,540 That's right. And here's a here's my next perspective on that. Um 561 00:42:23,340 --> 00:42:25,340 How do you how do you go about? 562 00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:30,300 As a as a diplomat right as a podcaster host, um and somebody who's 563 00:42:30,940 --> 00:42:32,940 guiding a large majority of people 564 00:42:33,980 --> 00:42:38,620 What's the line there? Um, am I overthinking it? Um in terms of 565 00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:46,380 Oh, man, I don't want to use that term because that literally doesn't align with me even though everybody kind of says it like that 566 00:42:46,380 --> 00:42:50,300 Well, what is your advice? As a as a spokesperson? 567 00:42:51,020 --> 00:42:55,260 So I think it's like all the other language things that we've talked about talked about 568 00:42:55,260 --> 00:43:01,420 I think the first step is awareness of it and thinking okay. Why am I saying that in other words? 569 00:43:01,980 --> 00:43:06,300 Again, if i'm saying i'm busy and it's more of a kind of like the okay 570 00:43:06,300 --> 00:43:10,220 It's really just shorthand for i'm going to give you an answer so we can move on 571 00:43:10,860 --> 00:43:15,340 And that's sort of intentional or behind, you know, that's really the mindset and the mentality 572 00:43:15,340 --> 00:43:20,620 Mentality, I don't know that it's good or bad. It's it's I don't think it's I think it's more value neutral 573 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:23,500 Does that make sense? Because it's really more than it's more about the 574 00:43:24,060 --> 00:43:28,460 The grease that we use to keep the wheels of conversation moving and that kind of thing 575 00:43:29,020 --> 00:43:34,700 On the other hand, I think like if I was to use it routinely so like I don't use that with clients 576 00:43:35,180 --> 00:43:40,380 You know as an example because in that setting in that framework, don't use which part the busy 577 00:43:40,380 --> 00:43:47,580 I don't use the phrasing busy because there i'm in a relationship where the that is what we're working on 578 00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:52,140 Is those frameworks and that language and thinking about the way we're thinking? 579 00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:54,700 So that's where I think 580 00:43:55,580 --> 00:44:00,380 Sometimes it has a difference in terms of what setting you're in what everything else that you're in 581 00:44:00,460 --> 00:44:04,460 So are you overthinking it? No, probably not. If anything, I would say maybe 582 00:44:05,340 --> 00:44:08,540 Think more about when do you want to use it versus when don't you? 583 00:44:08,540 --> 00:44:10,540 You know 584 00:44:10,940 --> 00:44:13,740 Because it's intentionality is really the important. Yes it is 585 00:44:14,460 --> 00:44:17,020 You know, I I mean I love that. I I really appreciate 586 00:44:17,740 --> 00:44:21,340 One appreciate you validating me so I can just know that I was right. I'm just kidding 587 00:44:21,580 --> 00:44:26,700 Um, I I appreciate the concept because it's one of those things that I think a lot of leaders take for granted 588 00:44:27,180 --> 00:44:29,180 and a lot of leaders 589 00:44:29,420 --> 00:44:33,660 Have a desire to go to the next level the next level the next level of their careers 590 00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:37,020 I think one of the things that holds most 591 00:44:37,020 --> 00:44:39,020 b c d and e 592 00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,240 Leaders back from becoming a-list leaders 593 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,920 Is the lack of intentionality with word choice? 594 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:48,360 um 595 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,360 If you're not intentional with your words 596 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,640 And you're a loose cannon with an audience that you're guiding 597 00:44:55,200 --> 00:45:01,800 Um, the audience is going to feel confused and the confused mind says no and you get for you're never even going to make the history book 598 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,720 Of leaders who didn't make it because you didn't make it. Um, right? 599 00:45:05,720 --> 00:45:10,680 so that's that's one of those things that I I strive to be very intentional about and 600 00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,520 Sometimes it feels like you're an alien, right? 601 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:23,960 When when you're one of the the only one not using the word, right? So the word hope that's my big example right now is 602 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:30,680 I love the word hope and what it truly means in terms of belief and the virtue that it is 603 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:36,840 Yet we live in a society that almost exclusively uses the word hope in negative context 604 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,440 I hope he doesn't screw that up. Oh, I hope we don't have to go through this again 605 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,360 Like we have tarnished the value of that word and large predominance 606 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:50,840 Help me see if i'm wrong on that though. Do you do what examples and communities? Do you see us? 607 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:56,680 Using the word hope in a positive and uplifting fashion the way that I think the word was intended 608 00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,640 You know, I I think 609 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,880 I think you're right in a lot of ways in terms of I think we've 610 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,800 We kind of changed the word hope to mean 611 00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:15,640 Here's an example from a business perspective, let me let me give you a little more context on it, right so 612 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,520 when an entrepreneur says 613 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:24,040 Are you confident that we'll be able to accomplish this by that date? 614 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,240 And my response is yeah, I hope so 615 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,920 You hope so. Um, you know, like what do you mean? You hope so like why are you not confident? 616 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,480 I'm like, oh no, no, like I'm I'm totally confident and hope 617 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:37,960 But there's that 618 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,720 Almost everybody 619 00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:46,760 Would miss the context of that in a business environment, right? Yeah, I think we've changed the word hope to sort of mean 620 00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:51,000 This is why I think that reaction that you just talked about happens 621 00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:54,920 To sort of be more of this. It's like what we don't know 622 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,040 You know hope is the opposite of knowing 623 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:05,000 And it's because we value so much that confidence of knowing but here's the truth 624 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:09,640 I mean stop and think about it in that situation if you answered. Oh, I know we can make it 625 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:15,960 You know in that first in that first question. Oh, I know we can make it. Would you really know? 626 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,680 You know, is it is it 627 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,960 Really 100 confidence? Can you really guarantee it? Can you really and the odds are probably pretty good 628 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,040 No, you can't where hope really does mean 629 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,960 that 630 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:35,800 Again, it's not the opposite of confidence. It's it's more about the the faith of it 631 00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:39,160 It's more about the I'm I'm believing this is possible 632 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:45,720 I love evidence not evidence. You know, yeah, you gave me something huge scott. So, um, 633 00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:48,760 Just exploring this with you allowed me to realize ultimately 634 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:54,120 I haven't been paying attention to the true reality of that experience and that 635 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,080 There's two people on that equation, right? So 636 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,360 In my case, i'm actually i'm not harsh 637 00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:05,720 But i'm very strict about the types of client relationships that I have and how we approach things. So 638 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:12,200 If I have a client who's doing that and they react negatively to the aspect of how i'm using hope and that 639 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,640 context and and uh conversation 640 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,200 They're not very well aligned 641 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,200 with me something on it because 642 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:22,200 they are 643 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,720 attempting to make me project a yes man scenario 644 00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,680 and attempting to coerce me into 645 00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:38,440 Promising something that I can't promise and there's ultimately an underlying threat that exists there of if you don't hit this there will be consequences 646 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:45,400 You know if you don't accomplish this then if you're not going to guarantee me victory in life and I don't work with people like that 647 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,760 Um, you know like ned yeah, no, um one i'm not gonna lie to you. Um, you know two 648 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:57,080 everything in possible existence says this should go well, but your obsession with 649 00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:01,800 You know manipulating my confidence is the actual problem in that scenario 650 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:08,360 Um, and I think as leaders we have opportunities to reflect on both ends of that equation 651 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,400 Do we actually do that to our team members sometimes with things that we want and hope and expect from them? 652 00:49:13,720 --> 00:49:21,480 And on the other side when we're taking on contracts or relationships or business partners or trying to explain our vision to others and they just don't get it 653 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,800 I think this is where that white space advice comes into play right? We need to honor what scott gave us 654 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,600 Uh, we have the opportunity reframing to honor what scott gave us in terms of 655 00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:37,160 That's also why it's really helpful to have 30 minute of white space in your day 656 00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:43,320 So you can consider these things outside of the pressured context of a given situation 657 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:48,280 Scott i'll let you wrap up. We're at the end of the show, but by all means man. What do you got for us at the end here? 658 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:54,040 Well, and and just kind of bouncing off what you said. I I think it's also why it's so important as leaders 659 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,320 That we have a curiosity mindset 660 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:05,240 All the time and it's so if if there's misalignment on the word hope, you know get curious about that 661 00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,800 Why you know, what what is it behind that misalignment? 662 00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:15,000 Is it like you said that they've got a really closed mindset and they're looking for a yes, man 663 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:20,280 You know, just tell me the way it is and tell me that reality is the way I want it to be and blah blah blah 664 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:26,440 Or is there a different reason, you know, because I again I don't yet know but but i'm there's a trigger here 665 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:27,960 I need to get curious 666 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,160 I think if we did a better job of 667 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,880 asking more questions 668 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:38,440 As opposed to making more statements as leaders 669 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,680 That right there is another one of those little statements that would just dramatically up level 670 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,080 Your leadership, but as leaders you have to be able to do that 671 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:49,720 So it's a little bit of a nightmare I think 672 00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:56,680 You know people are trying to get their leadership, but as leaders, it's so scary to ask questions because the minute you ask a question 673 00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:58,680 You're admitting you don't know the answer 674 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:05,480 You know, that's huge and that is a fear thing that we have to overcome because you know truth is 675 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,880 Honestly asking a question doesn't mean you don't know the answer but it does mean your sense here 676 00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,280 You brought it up though, you know because 677 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:17,240 How do we step into that scott and just kidding? We're not going to answer that right? 678 00:51:17,240 --> 00:51:19,940 at GBT, you can also ask how to explore those types of things. 679 00:51:20,300 --> 00:51:22,140 The curiosity factor is huge. 680 00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:24,220 Shout out to Tom Fox, who was on our show this week. 681 00:51:24,220 --> 00:51:27,840 And that was one of his top three resources was making sure to remain to 682 00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:28,520 be curious. 683 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,500 Also fellow Texan, go Texans today. 684 00:51:30,820 --> 00:51:31,900 Um, and go count. 685 00:51:31,900 --> 00:51:34,460 I literally have a note on my desk that lives on my desk. 686 00:51:35,260 --> 00:51:35,820 I love that. 687 00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:36,820 That's fantastic. 688 00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:39,340 I, those types of notes are so helpful. 689 00:51:39,620 --> 00:51:41,500 Um, thank you for being here, Scott. 690 00:51:41,540 --> 00:51:44,460 Uh, those of you listening in down below the show, you're going to see the action 691 00:51:44,460 --> 00:51:46,860 steps you can take to get involved in Scott's live. 692 00:51:46,860 --> 00:51:48,220 You can also Google him, of course. 693 00:51:48,220 --> 00:51:51,100 And then down below the action steps that exists there, everything from his 694 00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:53,380 book to his podcasts will be there. 695 00:51:53,380 --> 00:51:56,500 I'm sure he'd be excited to have you on a show if you qualify for that. 696 00:51:56,500 --> 00:51:59,880 So, uh, look, you know, if you want to come and share your vision with us, top 697 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,700 right corner says, be our guest. 698 00:52:01,980 --> 00:52:05,380 You want to be a guest of Scott's, then we'll have a link down there too. 699 00:52:05,380 --> 00:52:08,200 So you can check that out down below the action steps. 700 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,080 We'll also have a list of all of the resources that we talked about. 701 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,100 So you can dive in and, and, uh, explore all these opportunities at different 702 00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:15,600 levels. 703 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,420 My request for you on that is only do it if it's not adding to the noise in your 704 00:52:20,420 --> 00:52:24,260 life, if it's adding to the benefit and the productivity of your life. 705 00:52:24,260 --> 00:52:26,960 And we look forward to seeing you guys on the next episode of vision pros live. 706 00:52:27,220 --> 00:52:28,540 Thank you for being here today. 707 00:52:28,580 --> 00:52:31,020 I'm really happy that you tuned into vision pros live. 708 00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:35,500 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to 709 00:52:35,500 --> 00:52:35,980 move forward. 710 00:52:35,980 --> 00:52:37,660 This is going to get more and more fun. 711 00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:39,500 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 712 00:52:39,500 --> 00:52:43,020 We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your 713 00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:43,940 time and attention. 714 00:52:43,940 --> 00:52:46,580 Have an excellent time building out your vision.