1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,840 Cause I actually ended up doing two. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:03,840 Let's see here. 3 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,040 You got to meet with remind me. 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:11,040 Oh, Harry? 5 00:00:11,040 --> 00:00:13,040 Yes, Harry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 6 00:00:13,040 --> 00:00:15,040 There it is. Okay. 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,040 I thought so. So you got to meet with him in August. 8 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:19,040 And then we met with him again. 9 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:21,040 Yeah, I had two meetings with him. 10 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,040 I can't remember if the first one was August or the second one was August. 11 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:25,040 But yeah, we met. 12 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,040 We had two chats. 13 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,040 We came away after the first one. 14 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:29,040 He's like, oh, I've got to catch up with you again. 15 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,040 So that was really great. 16 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:33,040 And then here we are. 17 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:37,040 December. It's 75 degrees Fahrenheit here at 6 a.m. in Brisbane. 18 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:41,040 So, you know, welcome, welcome to the universe. 19 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,040 So, yeah, it's been great. 20 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,040 Absolutely. 21 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:47,040 And I love Harry. 22 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,040 He has learned so much in the last six months as a leader. 23 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:55,040 And just so you know, he actually gave you a 4.5 out of five star review. 24 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,040 And that's a very, very rare rating. 25 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,040 To be rated that high. 26 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,040 So it says a lot about how much he thinks of you. 27 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:09,040 That's why I'm also excited to dive into this idea of education that we we all overlook and underappreciate. 28 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:14,040 Like, even those of us who are educators, I think it's so hard to grasp the value of all that's there. 29 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,040 And then you align that with purpose and fulfillment. 30 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:19,040 You mind talking about that a little bit? 31 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:26,040 Yeah. So I guess the thing is, you know, there's this Tony Robbins many years ago talked about the fact that, you know, 32 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,040 we talk about knowledge as power, but knowledge is only potential power. 33 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:33,040 So first of it is really getting the information that we need. 34 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:40,040 But then my piece of my work that I love talking about is really how to take that education piece and put it into action. 35 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:45,040 Because without that, you know, we can't claim that we don't have access to information any day. 36 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:54,040 But we have a really hard time trying to figure out what is going on for us and what information and education we specifically need to advance our goals 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,040 and meet our potential and meet our purpose. 38 00:01:56,040 --> 00:02:01,040 And I think so much gets lost in the white noise that we really, really struggle with that. 39 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:08,040 So my model of infinite leadership, which is this ongoing evolution around continuous learning, 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:14,040 helps people create this idea of figuring out, moving out the white noise, having a really good structure, 41 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:19,040 figuring out what do I need right now and what information do I need right now and being able to apply that. 42 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:24,040 Because I think for so long, you know, what I've experienced in my life is people get resentment, 43 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:29,040 like they get to the next level in their job or their advancement or their career or they're doing some piece of learning. 44 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:34,040 And then they get to the next phase. And then if they want to get further, they actually have to continue that learning journey. 45 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:40,040 And then they get kind of resentful. Oh, my gosh, when does it stop? When can I just breathe? When can I just do this? 46 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:46,040 But if you kind of just adopt the mindset that it's continuous improvement, always a continuous learning journey, 47 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:53,040 then it actually takes the resentment piece out of it, because it's just the next natural step for you to get to that next phase in your journey. 48 00:02:53,040 --> 00:02:58,040 And I think we're not learning. We're kind of dying. Right. So how do we continue? 49 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:07,040 And a lot of it's our mindset piece around that choice. What do we need to do? And we say, yeah, we forget that we actually have choice so often. 50 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:14,040 How often do we sit there and go, well, I had no choice. Well, yeah, you did. You know, not always great choices. 51 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:21,040 You might have a, you know, I talk about the least crappy of the crappy choices sometimes, but you still have a choice. 52 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:33,040 And so and I like to walk my talk, really. I left a government job after 20 years in the middle of COVID, because for a long time, you know, I loved what I did. 53 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:39,040 I was very, very passionate about empowering others and building capacity in others, both young people and the people that I led. 54 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:47,040 But it no longer aligned to my true north. And I had all the excuses in the world to not take the next step in the world. 55 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:53,040 And and for September, Quaio said excuses are valid, but they're not going to get you where you want to go. Right. 56 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:59,040 So I was a single parent. That would absolutely be a valid reason to not step out of that comfort zone and leave a secure job. 57 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:06,040 I have been through a lot of life experiences that make it hard to that would be very valid for me to go, you know what? 58 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,040 I'm going to play small. But I didn't let those excuses get in the way. 59 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:14,040 I learned how to work around them. And that was part of that continuous education and learning journey for myself. 60 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:21,040 And I'm much more aligned with my own purpose. And I hope by doing that, I'm modeling the way for others to do the same. 61 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:29,040 I was about to ask if you also breathe. I get very excited. I get very excited about what I do. I love it. I love your passion. 62 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:38,040 So I love that quote. Who was it that said the excuses are valid, but they don't get you where you want to go? 63 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:45,040 His name is Busy Busy Fembe Quaio. He's an African guy. He also has an he has a quote that I use in my book. 64 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:51,040 He said, I didn't he said identity is manmade. So thereby it can be man changed. 65 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:57,040 So it's really about taking back that choice and control that if you don't like the circumstances, you have the power to change it. 66 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:02,040 I love that you talked about that from the perspective of education as well. That choice. Right. 67 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:10,040 And then ultimately boiling it down to the mindset. You know, it's I'm so grateful. One of my favorite quotes. 68 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:17,040 I learned this when I was pretty young is the more you learn, the more you can learn. Right. 69 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:23,040 And then years later, I read this study that the Harvard Business Review did on the curse of knowledge. 70 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:27,040 And that is so eye opening to realize it sounds like you're familiar with it. 71 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:36,040 And I just want to validate that that, you know, once you make the choice that we love to learn, right, that it's a continual opportunity, right? 72 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,040 Not something you have to do, but something you get to do. It's just so empowering. 73 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:46,040 And I'm also blessed. This this little book right here played a number on me. 74 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,040 This really changed my perspective on my self-esteem. It's called Strengths Finder 2.0. Yes. 75 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:56,040 My number one, got that in my bookshelf. My number one trait was learner. 76 00:05:56,040 --> 00:06:04,040 And it was the first time I ever validated for my knowledge and like what I did, because I was a 0.33 GPA kid. 77 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:12,040 I did not do well in school. I did not like the organizational infrastructure that was provided as much as other people do. 78 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:19,040 But that thing finally validated how I learn and how important it is to my life and helped me center around it. 79 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:24,040 So I'm so grateful for what you're talking about. I think there's young people and old people, right, 80 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:29,040 of all generations that can benefit from just taking a step back and saying, you know what? 81 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,040 I can enjoy this from here on out. So that's cool. 82 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:36,040 And I think there's that saying that says you can't teach an old dog new tricks. 83 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,040 Well, you can't teach an old dog that doesn't want to learn anything new tricks, I think. 84 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:45,040 Right. Or a new dog. Yeah. So anyone that is resistant and has that blocker. 85 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:50,040 And again, that's a personal thing to yourself. If you've decided and I knew somebody who's like, 86 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:55,040 I just I don't want to do this anymore. And I'm like, well, well, then what does that look like for you? 87 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,040 Right. So and that's a choice that you make. 88 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,040 But then you can't complain when you don't get the things that you want, right. 89 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:11,040 Because you haven't made the choice to keep. You know, I talk about reflect, review and recalibrate as many times as you need to get to the next level in your journey. 90 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaking of reflection, recalibrate, and you've had a lifetime of opportunities to search the resources and find things that have helped you along your way. 91 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:29,040 What are three resources that you recommend to other visionary leaders on their way on their way? 92 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:40,040 Yeah. So shameless plug here. I did some of it. I brought my own book, Infinite Leadership, which is a great resource because it is about infinite leadership. 93 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:45,040 Infinite leadership drive a continuous improvement culture and create excellence for everyone. 94 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:54,040 So whether you're doing this as a self leader, like for yourself, for your family, whether you're doing it for your team and whether you're doing it for your organization, 95 00:07:54,040 --> 00:08:02,040 it's that ongoing evolution that we were just talking about that around leadership and each of the letters of infinite is its own pillar. 96 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:07,040 So when it starts with you, it starts with I for identity. Who are you? Where are you now? 97 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:14,040 So, you know, going back to your story, you could have you could have claimed that identity as the point three three kid. Right. 98 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:18,040 But you didn't. You know, and probably at some point you did. I claim it. 99 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:24,040 But I claim it with the type of confidence and appreciation for my story. 100 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:29,040 So it doesn't define who you are. It's part of who you were, but doesn't define you. 101 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:37,040 Like my experience of going through domestic violence, I was a victim of domestic violence. That was an identity that I had. 102 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:43,040 But it's not something that I want to sit with and, you know, bathe in and stuff like that. I want to move forward from that. 103 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:53,040 And so, you know, that that identity holds us back so often because if I sat with that and just sit there and go, well, this is the only identity that I attach myself to. 104 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:57,040 Will that ever get me the outcomes that I seek to gain in this world? Right. 105 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:05,040 And of course, so all of these different pillars within that book, the second one, I think, is when I was first starting out, 106 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:11,040 there's I didn't have a lot of people around me in my inner ecosystem. 107 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:19,040 So the E in Infinite Leadership is ecosystem. But I didn't have an ecosystem around me that really understood where I wanted to go. 108 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:32,040 And so I was starting to look up stuff online that I could find and resonate with. And my very first my very first thing that I consistently, I guess, watched was a Canadian guy called Evan Carmichael. 109 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:37,040 And he has a thing called Top Ten Rules for Success and some really key learnings he came out with. 110 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:42,040 He just finds these snippets of information about key different people and you can take it. 111 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:46,040 And he talks about what's the lesson that you're taking away that you can apply into your own life today. 112 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:55,040 So every time I'm going to something, every time I'm reading something, every time I'm listening to something, I'm like, what lesson am I going to take away today from this today? 113 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:02,040 And I like to bespoke. I don't like to have one particular modality. So I'm like, oh, I like a little bit of this. I like a little bit of this. 114 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:11,040 I'm going to take a little bit of this and put it all together to create my own model versus having a one size fits all model. 115 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:17,040 And the other thing that you were talking about is that book that hurts your feelings. Then you know you've got a really good book. Right. 116 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:23,040 So if you're reading it a little bit and it's challenging your thinking and it's kind of making you feel a bit inside because you've done that. 117 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:32,040 There's two books outside of my own book that have done that for me is The Big Leap by Gay Hendrix. 118 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:40,040 I remember I was listening to it. I was driving on a holiday and I was driving up and I was kind of yelling at the radio to stop talking 119 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:46,040 because I was like so offended by what he was saying because it was so true. I'm like, you're hurting my feelings. 120 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:55,040 I felt very called out on my travels. And the other one is a lady by the name of Tasha Yurok and she has a book called Insight. 121 00:10:55,040 --> 00:11:00,040 And it's around our self-awareness. And to your point earlier, the more self-aware we are, 122 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:07,040 the risk of what I call the false positive is thinking that we will not be blind to ourselves at times. 123 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:15,040 And so who are our people that can be our loving critics to us that want what's best for us in our own journey, 124 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:22,040 that help us when we are feeling blind to ourselves, help us bring us back into that track with compassion and care, 125 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:28,040 but are also going to call us out on our stuff in a safe, supportive way. So who are those people in your ecosystem? 126 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:33,040 So there are a few different, I could go on all that. That could be a whole podcast episode in itself, 127 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:40,040 but there are three resources that Kylie's nerded out on, but there are three that I particularly love. 128 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:45,040 You say three. I've got a list of 10 out of those already. So that's fantastic. And I think it's great. 129 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:50,040 Thank you for being willing to dive deep into your well. That's what you're doing for us. 130 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:56,040 And it's not always about what's covered in the actual discussion as much as, 131 00:11:56,040 --> 00:12:02,040 and it's usually more about the depth of the leader themselves. And what can we do long-term 132 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:07,040 to make sure that we're able to engage with leaders like Kylie Leota? So we're going to come back. 133 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:12,040 We're going to talk about personal education even further, Kylie's vision for that, creating fulfillment 134 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:18,040 and purpose and how to maximize these opportunities in your lives as visionary leaders. And we'll see you guys on the other side. 135 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:23,040 All right. Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Callum. I'm your show host. 136 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:38,040 We're doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there. 137 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,040 What's up, Vision Pros? Welcome into another episode of Vision Pros Live. 138 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,040 I'm your show host, Jackson Callum, founder and CEO of First Class Business. 139 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,040 And I'm excited to have Kylie Leota on. You may have heard her from past episodes. 140 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:55,040 We did a couple interviews with Harry Basheest as well. And her depth is one that we just want to keep drawing from the well of. 141 00:12:55,040 --> 00:13:00,040 So we just went through some of the resources that she has. Before we bring her back on stage, 142 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,040 of course, we're always going to give you certain resources from our repertoire as well. 143 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:14,040 We got Dave Morrow of Hard2Kill.org. Dave has been building Hard2Kill.org to help 100,000 veterans lose 2 million pounds collectively. 144 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:20,040 And he's now opened his community for fitness and health up to civilians like myself. 145 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:30,040 So go and check out Hard2Kill.org. If you know anybody in the veteran community, consider sending them our way, especially because they. 146 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:38,040 How do I put this in a way that's light, but doesn't doesn't tear down the feelings, right? 147 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:44,040 Too many of our veterans are overlooked. Too many of them have, you know, end up suffering from depression. 148 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:48,040 And the suicide rate is absolutely insane right now. 149 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:54,040 And a big part of that is the same thing that would happen to all of us if somebody took away all of our routines, 150 00:13:54,040 --> 00:14:02,040 our life direction, if our life is based on our role, and put us in a position to where you had to kind of start from scratch again. 151 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:08,040 So my empathy and heart goes out to those soldiers who live and live to protect us. 152 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:15,040 And I love what Dave's up to to help them get back on track with looking good, feeling good, and going about and doing good. 153 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,040 Sorry, guys, I don't know why I got emotional about that today, but it matters. 154 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,040 Then there's opportunities, opportunities for work for Latinos specifically. 155 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:26,040 I've got Cynthia here helping me out on the podcast today. 156 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:32,040 And with opportunities, we're helping bridge the economic gap from North America to South America and the rest of the world. 157 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,040 And they've got their own podcast show for opportunities. 158 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:40,040 Well, if you're a Latino and you want to go on and inspire the rest of the Latino world on what's possible and definitely join us. 159 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:47,040 We hosted Quique Anglais a few months back, nine hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube as a English teacher. 160 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,040 And we've got other Latinos who have been involved in that show as well. 161 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:57,040 The point is not necessarily the accolades of like how cool is this getting? It's actually the exact opposite. 162 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:05,040 How many Latinos can we find who've never heard of LinkedIn, who never heard of Canva Upwork, who have no idea what digital marketing is or that podcasting exists? 163 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:12,040 Just like Louisa, who did the interview with Quique after having never done a podcast interview in her life or hearing about it. 164 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:17,040 It's amazing what's possible. We all come together and see how do we create win win win solutions. 165 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:25,040 So it is a virtual assistant program. And more importantly, we're looking for more Latinos to get involved and help us carry that torch forward so we can bless more lives. 166 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:32,040 Then there's a water project. The water project is not my resource. We we I just really like it. 167 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:40,040 So what we I have this little water bottle right here. Right. I've never been thirsty in my life. Never had to worry about it. 168 00:15:40,040 --> 00:15:49,040 So when it came across the water project and I saw it, I specifically chose to meditate on it and think through what would it be like if my kids didn't have water or what would it be like if I had to be thirsty? 169 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:56,040 And these individuals, they they don't have water sources within several miles of their homes. 170 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:03,040 The water project comes in, builds a borehole well or a sand dam, and they get to they document the process. 171 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:17,040 And they can see the results of what you contribute towards. And I love their transparency related to that. And my hope again, as maybe you'll turn this into a dinner conversation and you'll talk to your friends and family about what you can do to help out causes like this. 172 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:24,040 And if you have a cause of your own that you'd like to support, or you'd like us to support, drop the comment. Let us know what that causes. We might be able to dive in and help. 173 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:30,040 We've got eight billion people to help in this world. As long as I'm going to rock the microphone, I'm going to do it with that as a focal point. 174 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Without further ado, Kylie, welcome back to Vision Pros Live. And thank you so much for joining me. 175 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:47,040 No, thank you so much. And I love that missions that you were just sharing about. And, you know, it's just it's always so powerful when we can collectively come together to bring that to the fore. 176 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:54,040 So thank you for your work in all of those different spaces to being that voice when people don't have a voice. 177 00:16:54,040 --> 00:17:06,040 I'm super passionate about that kind of work as well. I'm a very strong advocate for a few different causes myself. And so thank you for your work, because without that, we don't get the airtime of different stories that need to be heard. 178 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,040 And voices matter. 179 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:13,040 I love that. Thanks for doubling down on me. I really appreciate it. 180 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:26,040 With that said, we got visionary leaders listening in. Some of them are probably just starting out with some of them might not even call themselves visionary leaders yet. Others are well along the way. Maybe Elon Musk is listening today. 181 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:31,040 Right. I'm curious, though. What's your vision? What's your vision for those that you serve? 182 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:46,040 Yeah, so the name of my company is called Elements for Success. So quite simply put, how that came about was Earl Nightingale. His definition of success was success is the progressive moralization of a worthy goal or ideal. 183 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:58,040 And for you, Jackson, your vision of what success looks like for you might be different for what it looks like for me, different from your audience, different from those leaders that are just starting out to those leaders that are further ahead in the journey. 184 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:06,040 But at the end of the day, it's helping people create that what success looks like for them and then helping them backward map that steps along the way. 185 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:14,040 And the Elements part of Elements for Success is we've all got skill gaps in our journey that are going to stop us from achieving that success that we define for ourselves. 186 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:25,040 And my job is to help people close the gap and find those different elements that are going to help them in their journey to what success looks like for them, whether it be an individual personal level or whether it be at a high level 187 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:31,040 or corporate organizational level. At the key and the foundation of it, that's what it's about serving others to do that. 188 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:42,040 Okay. So your programs at what I don't know how to ask this without it being a convoluted question, but what level of scale are they at? 189 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Because you're able to help both realms of that perspective. And you've been, you know, you've been making a life out of this. 190 00:18:49,040 --> 00:19:00,040 It's not like something that you dove into yesterday, right? And nothing wrong with people who are just starting out again. But how, you know, help me, help us see that. 191 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:06,040 I would love to know, like, is this open for everybody and anybody Tony Robbins level or Maria? 192 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:13,040 So there's, yeah, so there's both arms of that. So I've got people that come to me that have never had access to coaching before. 193 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:21,040 And they're like, I know I need something different. And, you know, with all due respect, there is amazing therapeutic supports out there. 194 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:26,040 But some people for a whole variety of reasons can't or won't access those particular supports. 195 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:34,040 Whereas coaching is a little bit more accessible because most of us grew up sport coach or even music or somewhere in school or somewhere along the line. 196 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:41,040 And coaching is about how to capture your best self and get it on the field or get to capture your best self and get it out there. Right. 197 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:47,040 So I do do individual work. But the other part of it. So I have this idea. 198 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:53,040 And when I started, always have been helping people as individuals build their capacity to get to where they want to go. 199 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:59,040 But what I found was people were hitting ceilings and barriers all along the way because systems are broken. 200 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:03,040 As we well know, it doesn't matter if it's America, it doesn't matter if it's Australia. 201 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,040 There are many, many, many, many systems that are broken. 202 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:12,040 So I'm doing this work, helping people level themselves up into the space and they're hitting all these ceilings. 203 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:21,040 And I'm like, well, this is rubbish. So I'm like, how do I remove some of those barriers for them so they continue on their trajectory to where they want to go? 204 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:26,040 So the other part of that is going into corporates, going into high level, high scale organisations. 205 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:34,040 And we know that from here, the difference between a great organisation and a brewing organisation is the leadership. 206 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:42,040 And we've got to get that right because the flow and effect, the ROI for everybody else in that organisation is more than 10x. 207 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:47,040 It's, you know, I don't even know if you can put a price value on it if we can remove some of those barriers. 208 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:55,040 So I do both ends of that for that reason that I can build somebody's capacity and they can be brilliant, but they can still hit a ceiling. 209 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:01,040 We've got to get rid of those ceilings. So being able to get into organisations, support them to be infinite leaders. 210 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:05,040 And then this idea is about sustainable practices, right? 211 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:13,040 So how do we help them then support everybody else in there to create that exponential growth and that continuous evolution of growth, 212 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:20,040 which is actually what creates the innovation and the success and the excellence in whatever we do, both personally and professionally. 213 00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:26,040 Love that. Love that you said something about the word right and leadership. 214 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:31,040 So I went ahead and combine the two because there's different forms of leadership that exist out there. 215 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:41,040 And I'm with you as far as, you know, personal education and fulfilment can be extremely limited by our surroundings, 216 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:47,040 by our environment, by the leaders who often control what that looks like, but they can also be amplified, right? 217 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:52,040 They can be cultivated thanks to great leadership. So what is right leadership? 218 00:21:52,040 --> 00:22:03,040 How would you define that? Yeah, for me personally, I think right leadership is one that's really crafted a very solid foundation in psychological safety. 219 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,040 And I say authentically, not tokenistically. 220 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:13,040 I think it's become the new buzzword that becomes a workshop that you go to to tick a box to say that you do. 221 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:18,040 But right leadership, you know, is first of all, understanding that as a leader, you're not always right. 222 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:25,040 There's a really good principle in right leadership is being open to the fact that as a leader, you're not going to get it right all of the time. 223 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:32,040 But if you have a solid foundation in psychological safety that is authentically embedded into your organisation, 224 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,040 then you're going to surround yourself with people that are going to help you get it right. 225 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,040 And I think that's really, really important. And what does right mean? 226 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,040 It's around creating that collective vision to get the best outcome for everyone. 227 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:51,040 And it's the win-win, not the I'm winning, you're losing model. It's about creating the win-win for everybody. 228 00:22:51,040 --> 00:23:00,040 I'm going to interrupt what you said, because I think a lot of people are going to miss what you said, not because of you, because of us, right, as listeners, our blind spots. 229 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Psychological safety, psychological safety, psychological safety, right. 230 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:13,040 So so many people out there are building based on quarterly expectations, based on grinding it out, moving it forward, squeezing every drop out of the lemon, et cetera. 231 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:21,040 Like that's the that's the typical process that is highlighted and pushed as the means for growth. 232 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,040 Yet 96 percent of businesses lose within 10 years. 233 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:29,040 Go figure. You all go to the same education class as everybody else does. 234 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,040 You're going to end up with the same results that everybody else is, which we don't want. 235 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:42,040 So you're going against the barrier with that and going back to the basics, I would say, back to the fundamental reality of what we feel as human beings. 236 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:57,040 Let's talk about that. What is psychological safety and how do we help entrepreneurs catch the vision clear faster and be inspired to move towards it so that they can adopt it and say, like, oh, gosh, like, duh, let's let's do this. 237 00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:04,040 And I think a lot of entrepreneurs have grown up in a space where it wasn't safe to be themselves. 238 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:09,040 That's why the entrepreneurs in the first place, they didn't fit into a mold that says in corporate, we work or we do this right. 239 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,040 Because our brains are wired differently. 240 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:18,040 And one of the things that I said a couple of years ago is I'm so tired of apologizing for the way that my brain works. 241 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,040 So how do we create? 242 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:25,040 How do we create a space that is psychologically safe for me? 243 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,040 And going back to that ecosystem model, right. 244 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:37,040 But at its foundational principles, whether you're talking about corporate, whether you're talking about entrepreneurship or whether you're talking about your own family, like I'm a mom of three kids. 245 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:43,040 Right. So at the premise level, the very first level of psychological safety is inclusion. 246 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:45,040 I feel like I belong here. 247 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,040 And that could be in a conversation. 248 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,040 It could be in a meeting. It could be in the organization. 249 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,040 It could be within the team. 250 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,040 What does that look like for me? 251 00:24:53,040 --> 00:25:00,040 And the part for yourself as right leaders for yourself is not that the organization should do this for me, but self identifying. 252 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,040 What does it feel like to belong? 253 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:08,040 How do I know that I belong in this space or how do I feel like I belong in this space? 254 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:16,040 And so as an entrepreneur, you're constantly on the hustle and sometimes trying to put yourself square peg in a round hole. 255 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:22,040 How do you know if it's a good fit for you instead of wasting your energy on things that aren't a good fit? 256 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:27,040 So that sense of belonging and at its basic level, I feel like I belong here. 257 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,040 I feel like I'm welcome here. 258 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,040 And sometimes that's with ourselves. 259 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:40,040 Right. What does it feel like to be OK to belong to myself as this entrepreneurial mindset and be kind and compassionate to myself in this journey? 260 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,040 The second part is that learner phase. 261 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:48,040 I'm learning along this journey and there's sometimes I'm going to get it right and sometimes I'm not. 262 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,040 But the only time it's a failure is if I don't take something away from it. 263 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:59,040 The true failure is if I continue to, I guess, reject the learnings. 264 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:04,040 I know. And it's about finding the wisdom in those wounds, not that we won't have wounds on that journey. 265 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:09,040 And I think one of the most I'm I'm pretty hard on myself. 266 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,040 I've got a pretty high aspirations for myself. 267 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,040 So being a former educator, I am the most compassionate person. 268 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:25,040 And my my young people that I worked with were kids on roofs, kids with knives, kids with had horrific, horrific stories. 269 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:30,040 And everyone would go, oh, my gosh, you are so compassionate, so caring. 270 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,040 But I haven't always been that to myself. 271 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:45,040 And so, you know, what does that look like and sound like and feel like for me in this journey when I'm not getting where I think I should be or how do I give myself grace in that moment? 272 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:50,040 But how do I surround myself with people that are going to give me grace with the fact that I'm not always going to be perfect? 273 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:55,040 Because once I do a lot of things well, there are some things not so great at. Ask my kids. 274 00:26:55,040 --> 00:27:01,040 They'll tell you. Right. So finding grace and compassion in that moment. 275 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,040 The next part of psychological safety is contribution. 276 00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:14,040 If I walk into this conversation, I walk into this meeting, I walk into this team or the organization, my contribution is valued. 277 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:21,040 Regardless of whether they take it on board or not, I feel like I have the right to speak up and share my thoughts and ideas. 278 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:27,040 And I walk away feeling heard. How often does that not happen for us? 279 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:33,040 And I even go back to one of the big pieces I talk about is feedback, because I think we do it so poorly. 280 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:51,040 When when did anyone that you led, sorry, anyone that led you ever come up to you and say, hey, Jackson, when I've got some feedback to give you, how would you like me to give it to you in a way that you can receive it? 281 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:56,040 Not very often. I don't recall anyone ever saying that to me. They've all got their own. 282 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:01,040 I've got some feedback for you or catch me when it's a really bad time or they'll say it in a way. 283 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:07,040 The hard part from I understand the wisdom, what you're saying, because there's like 99.9 percent of people don't have that right. 284 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:11,040 But you highlighted the truth that resonates super well with me. Right. 285 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,040 And that's I've built a team of belonging. All right. 286 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:23,040 And I've been raised by people who, you know, like I've got leaders who did that for me because I dedicated my life to trying to figure out how to find leaders like that. 287 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:31,040 So I know I'm the exception, the rule on that. If you don't have that in your life, know that there are lots of great leaders out there. 288 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:34,040 There's lots of great environments to belong within. 289 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:41,040 And if you're not in that, then you have an opportunity to choose to find one to move. 290 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:47,040 And you don't have to accept less than because you feel like you know, this is what it is. 291 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:53,040 I often say to people that haven't had that very blessed experience that you've got of having leaders that created that around you. 292 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:59,040 I often start with no. I learned more lessons about leadership from the bad leadership about what I didn't want to be. 293 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,040 That was actually how I started my model. Right. Like, no, I'm not doing that. 294 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:06,040 I will never do that. Not do that. 295 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:12,040 And so from that, I crafted what I felt it looked like to be that set, create that sense of belonging. 296 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:23,040 And I have staff that worked with me 15 years ago that will still reach out to me and go, Kylie, you are the first and only leader that had ever actually made me feel seen, heard and accepted. 297 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:28,040 And she goes, I've been missing that for the last 15 years in my leadership journey. Can we catch up? 298 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:34,040 And in one conversation, they're like, I've had more support from you in one conversation than I've had in the last 15 years. 299 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:45,040 Those of you who are listening in, you have an extreme opportunity. The wisest of those listening in are hearing and valuing both sides of this equation. 300 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:53,040 And why does that matter? Because as a leader, you have to we have the opportunity to help people learn what to escape. 301 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,040 Right. And you have to have empathy and compassion in order to do that. 302 00:29:56,040 --> 00:30:02,040 And then the flip side, you know now how to guide them, like what you're guiding them to, where you're going to take them. 303 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:16,040 And so I do appreciate being able to hear both sides of this and be able to dynamically dive into both sides at once, because it's very rare that a leader has that depth to be able to dive into both simultaneously. 304 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:27,040 So I've got real quick a recap. I've got one, the sense of belonging, two, facilitating a place where I'm learning and where others can learn, three, the contribution aspect, right? 305 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,040 Facilitating an opportunity for people to contribute. 306 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:44,040 And the last one of psychological safety is that challenge of safety around the fact that is if I should hope that anyone on my team can actually come up to me and go, Hey, Kylie, I know you said this thing that we're going to do. 307 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:57,040 I'm not sure it's right. Can I can I help? Can I get you to help me unpack that? Or I can actually go, Hey, can you help me understand why you made that decision, Jackson, the other day when you said this thing in the meeting? 308 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:09,040 Because I'm struggling with that right now, without fear of losing their job, without fear of that person not liking them, without fear that we're not going to be okay at the end of this conversation. 309 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:18,040 Right. So is this is this the fourth point? Do you define that the way Patrick Lincione does as healthy conflict? Or is there a different term that you use for it? 310 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:35,040 I use considered conflict. So I actually run. Yeah, I use. Yeah, I create and I run workshops on it. Actually, I'm heading off. I'm jumping on a plane after this podcast to go down to Melbourne in Australia and run a workshop on it. 311 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:44,040 Because the idea is that we grew up, most of us grew up the narrative that conflict is bad. And if you ask people what they think of conflict, they've got a negative definition to it. 312 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:54,040 But there's, when we do it in a considered manner, we can have a constructive and positive outcome where we're still intact at the end of it. 313 00:31:54,040 --> 00:32:01,040 And I think that's the most important piece of it is the fact that, you know, it's about being, I always talk about being proactive versus reactive. 314 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:08,040 And considered conflict is a proactive approach to challenge a safety in making sure that we do it in the right way. 315 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:17,040 So, you know, the Gottmans talk about how to fight well. They've got this concept about how to fight well. Let's talk through that. Is that the big one? Yeah, I love it. 316 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:26,040 So the Gottmans talk about the foreforcement of the apocalypse. They talk about criticism, contempt, defensiveness and stonewalling. 317 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:37,040 And the Gottmans are famous for their work in personal relationships about, you know, I think they talk about the fact that, you know, within seven minutes of observing a couple, they can kind of assess whether they're going to stay together or not. 318 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:48,040 But in organizations, it's true. How do we create, how do we fight well in organizations? For those of you who don't know, real quick, the Gottmans are like the Michael Jordan of psychology. 319 00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:58,040 Like that's what they're known as. That's what one of my psychologists said and was invalidated by a lot of other psychologists. So, yeah, the Gottman Institute we can all learn from. Go ahead, sorry. 320 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:07,040 And I love, what I love about what I do is I'll learn something personally and I'm like, oh, that's, but how do I then create a lens into the organizational space where that can relate? 321 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:18,040 And my life journey was I got opportunities to learn leadership skills in my work life. I didn't know how to apply them to my personal life. So I love to blend them both together and, you know, go back and forth. 322 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:33,040 So Gottmans are known for their personal, I guess, side of things, but they also do the org side of things, just less known for it. So how do we have a good, healthy, robust, fight well conversation and go away feeling like I'm okay at the end of it? 323 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:47,040 Because we're focused on the issue at hand and I haven't walked away feeling like you're personally attacking me. And so four things that they talk about, yeah, is removing the criticism, removing the contempt, 324 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:57,040 moving the defensiveness and the stonewalling. But it's about having those healthy mechanisms in that space, right? 325 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:07,040 You know, and being able to use, and like anything in life, it's like a practice. How did you get good as a baseball player or how did you get good as a musician? You practiced. 326 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:17,040 You don't get, you don't wake up one day and come off this podcast and go, Oh my gosh, I'm going to nail psych safety now. It's a practice. 327 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:26,040 I mean, y'all might, but I spent thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars and hours on therapy and counseling and watching videos and reading books like this, boundaries in marriage, five love languages, etc. 328 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:37,040 And it's like child whisper, like there's all sorts of resources and it, you know, comes down to what type of life do we want to carve out for ourselves? Do we want to accept the status quo or what's just given to us? 329 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:47,040 Or do we see an opportunity and optimization and positive changes? And that's, so yes, I love these concepts. I'm glad you're... 330 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:58,040 Yeah. And even the love language concepts in an organization, what does that look like is how do we validate people? Yep. Some people need the words of affirmation. Some people do not. 331 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:05,040 Some people need, Hey, I'll take that off your caseload today. I'll help you out by helping you with this thing. You know, so by understanding... 332 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:12,040 There's one more level of this. There's one more level of this too. There's a book that almost nobody reads called Tribal Leadership. 333 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:22,040 Tribal Leadership takes this all to a level that I've never seen. Sorry, I just missed that. Oh, Tribal, yes. Tribal Leadership. Yes. I've also in my bookcase at my office. Yeah. 334 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:38,040 Incredible concept that takes all of that to the next level. For those of you visionaries, we're looking to build at scale, super valuable. Now, I want to pull us into my favorite question because you got a depth that this is going to be a lot of fun. 335 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:49,040 Kylie, this is the last opportunity you ever had to share words of wisdom with an audience. What powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience? 336 00:35:49,040 --> 00:36:00,040 So I would say that we have to be aware that we are the sum of our experiences, but we don't allow ourselves to be defined by those experiences. 337 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,040 Tell me about that. 338 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:16,040 So I guess going back to those experiences, so I might at most... I actually didn't hilariously aspire to be a leader in the traditional sense. I didn't wake up one morning and go, oh my gosh, I want to be a visionary or I want to be a leader. 339 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:34,040 And my life was one of where safety and security was, I guess, the paramount thing. And so I could have lived a very middle of the line life around that due to the sum of my experiences. 340 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:47,040 And that would have been okay. But I didn't want to be defined by that. And so what happened is every time something happened to me, so I mentioned earlier, I went through domestic violence. It was a pretty horrific experience. 341 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:57,040 And I could have allowed myself very validly to have been consumed by that and lived a very, very small life as a basis of that. 342 00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:06,040 But, you know, Elizabeth Gilbert says, my children do not mean... my children don't need me to save them. They need to watch me save myself. 343 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:17,040 And that was a knife through the heart going, what am I modeling right now? And whether you're a leadership in your home life or whether you're a leadership in your professional life, is I always go back to what am I modeling right now? 344 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:28,040 And so am I modeling that I'm going to allow that experience to shrink me? Or am I going to take the wisdoms from that wound and I'm going to apply it and not be defined by that thing? 345 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:41,040 Because at the end of the day, I don't want my children being defined by the fact that they were raised by a single mom. I want them to take the lessons of the fact that they've had to dig deeper and had to overcome a few things that maybe some other people haven't had to navigate. 346 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:47,040 But don't use it as an excuse and don't use it as a defined... define you as to why you can't. 347 00:37:47,040 --> 00:38:01,040 And I think as... if we're a true visionary leader, it's that whole, you know, fall down 7, get up 8, fall down 77, get up 88, fall down 700, get up 701 times, right? 348 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:15,040 Is that it's okay to feel it in the moment. And I think it's really important that we don't dismiss our experiences. We have to acknowledge them. But don't allow yourself to be defined by them. Both good and bad. 349 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:32,040 We had... I had a great discussion with John Whaley on the podcast and we were talking about adversities and how most people refer to them as the... you can learn to refer to that as the silver lining, you know, that exists in life. And he called it the silver road. 350 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:46,040 And I was like, oh, that's awesome. Like that's owning fully that if we didn't have the experiences that we've had in our past, we wouldn't be experiencing the good that we're experiencing now and that we can get to experience. 351 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:55,040 And that can feel very overwhelming if we can't feel the benefit of the silver, right? If we feel like we're stuck in the mud and it can take a daily process. 352 00:38:55,040 --> 00:39:06,040 And we'll go back to what you said, the sense of belonging, right? Having a community, people uplift you. Most of you who are listening to this show, you're here because you do have a sense of healthy community. 353 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:24,040 You've already put yourself in a space or been blessed to be in a space where your vision is something that you can consider valuing. There's so many people who don't have that ability in the world to even fathom or think through or listen to five minutes of this without being like, oh my gosh, this is too frou frou. 354 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:36,040 Let's move on for it. But I want to validate what you said because your concept of we're not like, yes, the sum of our experiences are valid. They're there and we're not defined by it. 355 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:48,040 You know, I learned that at a very young age where you start to hear things as a kid. You know, if you're paying attention in school, well, I was from a divorced background, right? I wasn't supposed to be successful based on the stats. 356 00:39:48,040 --> 00:40:05,040 Right. Yeah, exactly. And I was somebody who grew up with abuse, you know, spiritual, mental, physical, sexual abuse. I was not supposed to be successful according to statistics. 357 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:15,040 And I knew I was good at math. I could see that. Oh crap. That means that my percent chance of being able to succeed is going from here down here. And my mom was a single mom of six. 358 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:25,040 And so multiply the fact now you don't have the individual time with your parents, you know, that they say that one child needs to have, et cetera. 359 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:38,040 Well, I had to make conscious choices and decisions in my life to say, you know what? I'm not a statistic. I'm going to find the variables that help me give me my edge to be able to do what I need to do. 360 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:50,040 There's been positives, there's been negatives, right? Consequences all around that. But I'm not defined by those past experiences. Neither any of you. I'm a single father of four. I'm twice divorced. 361 00:40:50,040 --> 00:41:04,040 They're experiences. I've learned phenomenal lessons from each one of those experiences and been able to see the opportunities, not what I have to go through. I don't have to go through anything. I choose to go through it. 362 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:15,040 I've never been a prisoner of war, so I can't speak to that. But good news, there's books out there on people who went through that and still found a way towards abundance in their lives. 363 00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:28,040 So we've just been blessed with such a great opportunity to live in an age where all these resources are available to us. And we have virtual communication possibilities where somebody as awesome as Kylie is willing to get up at six in the morning, 364 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:44,040 or ready at six in the morning in order to bring us abundance. And I just want to honor you and thank you for that because you don't have to do what you do. Yet you don't only do it because of duty, you do it because you love to and you want to help others. 365 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:48,040 And that's just, that's the way to live. 366 00:41:48,040 --> 00:42:05,040 There was a big lotto. We don't have big amounts like you do in America, but we had a very big lotto here the other day. And I was talking to a friend of mine. I said, so if I won this huge lotto that we had here, do you know what I'd do tomorrow? 367 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:16,040 I'd get up and I would go serve my clients. I, you know, because I get to do that. That's something I have a privilege to do every single day. 368 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:20,040 So even great resources to do it too. 369 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:27,040 Go ahead, continue on that because your vision is real, it can feel like that. 370 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:34,040 Yeah, and it would give me a mechanism to serve more people more powerfully. That's what that conduit would give me. 371 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:48,040 So going back to that ecosystem that you were talking about earlier is one of the things that I have learned the very hard way in my life is there's people in your life and often we don't actually audit our ecosystem. 372 00:42:48,040 --> 00:43:01,040 There are people that are in our existence and, and we actually, how often do we take the time to audit whether or not they are going to be a huge supporter of you to get to the next phase of your journey. 373 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:07,040 And that's not to say that people are bad. I want to really caveat that I'm not saying every relationship every day. 374 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:16,040 I learned that people were successful do the same thing. It's healthy boundaries and most people don't know it. So I'm with you doubling down like go Kylie go. 375 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:23,040 Yeah, but that was a hard. And so one of the things that I had an experience was I had somebody in my life who I thought was a huge supporter of me. 376 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:37,040 And when I started doing things with the US I'm heading to I'm coming over to the US in March I'm doing all of these things. Anyway, as I started to expand because as Marianne Williamson says you're playing small does not serve the world. 377 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:48,040 As I started to expand. I was getting a different vibe. And what I realized was, they were supportive of me to the level of their comfort. 378 00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:58,040 And when I started to play outside of their comfort level. I don't think they're even consciously aware of it. They're not a bad person. They're one of my most favorite people in the whole entire world. 379 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:11,040 But they were stifling because all of a sudden I wasn't in line with their comfort level. So doing an energy audit of the people places and things that you surround yourself with is really constant. 380 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:23,040 And that's not to say that you don't have these people in your life. But it's around how you allow that engagement in your life so that you can continue and not continue to shrink yourself for the comfort of others. 381 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:35,040 The best of you, Vignery leaders, listening in. The best of you. Almost all of you have a coach that is that limiting person. I'm calling the industry out. 382 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:47,040 It is so sad to me the amount of people who say, I already have a coach. And where does that come from? A coach who has put you in a position to where you feel like they're the best thing since God. 383 00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:54,040 LeBron James, how many coaches does that man have in his life? Like a hundred. Same thing with Jeff Bezos. Same thing with Elon Musk. 384 00:44:54,040 --> 00:45:03,040 So there are levels to this. And it doesn't mean we have to eliminate. Doesn't mean we have to crucify. Doesn't mean we have to burn people at the stake, etc. We can sell the relationships. 385 00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:13,040 I had to shut down one of my closest core essential relationships a few weeks ago. I'm not going to say who it is, but all of you all know what that close core looks like from a familial standpoint, right? 386 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:24,040 And I said, look, I said, I don't feel like I can share who I am with you anymore because every time I do, you bring me down. And so I'm going to stop. 387 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:36,040 Like I'm done. And my boundary line is now here. And, you know, it is what it is. I'm not sorry. Right. And but I love you. Right. And I walked out. 388 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:48,040 And we went through several weeks where that like that was it. Like that's where it was. And that's where it was left. But because that person loves me and because I love that person, 389 00:45:48,040 --> 00:46:04,040 we ended up having a new opportunity to explore. Is it safe? Right. Is there hope? You know, is this going to go well? And as we did, you know, it gave me the time, the opportunity to reopen that gate and say, you know what? 390 00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:14,040 Well, right. You know, we can figure this out. That's not always the case with our relationship. Sometimes we need a big old break or we need a permanent break and say, like, I can love you from a distance, but not in my life. 391 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:26,040 Right. That has happened. So I love that you talk about the auditing of our ecosystems, the taking our social apps, right. And unfollowing a bunch of you. You don't unfriend them. Unfollow. 392 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:39,040 I did it the other day. I unfollowed like 3,000 people in a matter of two weeks because I've got all these wonderful coaches and professionals who love to promote and yap their butts off about all the things that they're trying to show off and do. 393 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:48,040 I don't need that in my feed. You know, it just distracts me and just annoys. It ruined my ability to see my closest relationships and what was going on in my life. 394 00:46:48,040 --> 00:47:03,040 So these are, these are lessons, visionaries, that you will learn as you go. And I hope that you teach us in the comments, too. What do you do in your lives to audit and make sure that your ecosystems are safe and sound because I'm always trying to optimize that. 395 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:16,040 So, Kylie, you've, you've really, really helped us out a lot today. Vision Pros, we will have below this episode the links for the action steps that you can take with Kylie. We'll also have below those links all of the resources that we talked about. 396 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:29,040 I mean, I have my work going out for me today. I mean, I have to work on that list, but we'll get those on the resource notes as well. That way it's easy for you to go and click and see how to explore those depths of relationships, those opportunities. 397 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:44,040 Reach out to the authors. Take some bold moves. Like I said, get in touch with Kylie, too. And if you felt inspired enough to want more, then go directly to the source. Reach out to her and build a relationship and Vision Pros. 398 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:53,040 We'll see you all in the next episode. Before I close out, though, Kylie, I feel inspired. I'm going to let you close today. Any final thoughts you want to share with the audience? 399 00:47:53,040 --> 00:48:14,040 I just go back to that idea as, you know, that Marianne Williamson talks about, you're playing small doesn't serve the world. So where in your life are you playing small? And what can you do to be an infinite leader and remove those barriers for yourself so that you continue that evolution to your own success and to create the life that you want? 400 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:22,040 That's fantastic. We'll see you all in the next episode. And if you'd like to share your vision, apply top right corner. It says be our guest. We'd love to have you. Bye-bye, everybody. 401 00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:41,040 Thank you for being here today. I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. This is going to get more and more fun. We'll have more and more engagement as well. We'll invite people to participate in the show. And thank you for giving us your time and attention. Have an excellent time building out your vision.