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Why do you think leaders hide from funding their vision?

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And how can those leaders then lean into funding their vision?

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Okay, and we did briefly talk about this before in terms of funding the vision, meaning bringing

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money into your business.

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It could, if that's what you want to share.

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There's people who share the money side of it, the people who share the effort and the

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things you put into your vision side of it.

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So you can go either or.

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It's what you would like to share.

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Okay.

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Well, it is true that when you have a business and you're starting a business that it requires

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a lot of effort to run it, despite the many gurus out there that would have us buy their

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books about four-hour work weeks and that sort of thing.

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I'm not saying that didn't work for them and maybe there are many other people that that

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works for.

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It's very common that you would spend a significant amount of time investing in your business.

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When you're using the word funding, I'll use the word investing as a synonym.

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So I'm investing.

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How am I investing in my business?

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Well, number one, it could be that I'm spending money on something like coaching, business

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coaching.

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I often speak with people who want to make more money.

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Maybe they're making some money in their business, but they want to make more money.

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And then it always seems like, okay, if I hire somebody like myself as a coach to help

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me with my business, I'm spending money and I want to be making money, but I'm spending

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money.

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So what are you investing in?

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Are you investing in the systems that help you to get more efficient in your business?

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Are you investing in the support and the help such as a VA or somebody like that?

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Or are you investing in a coach?

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All of those things should be things that will ultimately bring you more value into

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your business.

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That would be the idea.

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The same for even just getting external funding, whether it's an angel investor or a loan from

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your grandfather or whatever that is.

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Now the question is, why do leaders hide from funding their vision?

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Again, I might have a different interpretation of those words than you, but it's hard.

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If we're talking specifically about money, I would say one thing that has leaders hide

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from doing that is A, they want to make sure that if they're investing money, that it's

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going to work.

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I think this is the big reason why people don't hire a coach or hire help is because

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they're not sure if it is going to help them.

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A lot of people don't like talking about money, don't like asking for help, don't like ways

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in which they could...

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Some people think it's really stoic to work really, really hard in your business and anything

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that makes it easier just seems like it's so hard to do.

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So those are some initial thoughts.

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Is that in alignment with what you're thinking about?

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There's a lot that I align with and there's a lot of ways I can go about this.

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You mentioned that necessarily you don't align with people selling four-hour work week courses.

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I see and hear a lot of people that I know around me who are invested in that.

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They put a lot of money and effort into trying to get a four-hour work week and that's how

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they fund their vision.

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I know it doesn't work from my experience with and getting learning lessons from people

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who have done more than me, that are centered enough to help me, guide me through the past.

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I a lot of times have struggled explaining this to people who are in their four-hour

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work week because it hurts me to see that the result they might get, it's not what they're

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expecting to get because some coach told them to do so and that coach straight up maybe

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lied to them or played with their emotions in whatever way possible.

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So what do you say about that?

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Well, first of all, why does anyone buy a course?

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I could ask myself that question because I've bought many courses.

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I always like to say I bought that $10,000 course so you don't have to, to my client.

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So I want to be the one learning so that you don't have to then go and do something else.

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Of course, all these things, there's always a little magic pill somehow.

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There's a little thing that's going to be the freedom pill, it's going to be the money

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freedom pill, the time freedom pill, the I can do whatever I want pill.

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And so many times when people are selling courses and or books about four-hour work

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weeks, and by the way, if that person wrote that book is listening, I'm sure it's a wonderful

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book.

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I've been there once, I didn't apply it, and I can't speak to it specifically.

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However, I would say that whatever those are, they're typically coming from a space of already

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having created that reality.

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And so that could have been a 10-year process to get them from 50 hours a week or 100 hours

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a week to four hours a week.

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And so then that person, and let's not just pick on that one particular guy that wrote

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that book, but that person is now saying, okay, I can help you with my, because I have

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a publishing empire, I can help you become a self-publisher.

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I can help you become a yoga master, whatever it is.

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They're already coming at it from that place of mastery, which tends to that the communication

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does not necessarily match.

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And that is why I think people fail at it sometimes, because they're not able to operate

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at the level that they're expected to operate in order to create that result.

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Is that resonating?

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It does, but that goes to the next part.

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I know we are focusing a little bit of the negative side of that funding, but how do

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we help the people who are in that?

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So for example, I don't know if you have kids or not, but do you have kids?

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Two, two of them, yeah.

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So if you have two kids, and one of them decided to follow the four-hour work week situation,

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and you know what it could and would lead to, most likely because of the experience

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you've had, and you know what your kids lack and don't lack in those scenarios.

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Then you know the scenario that, hey, this might go to that side.

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What would you do in that case to help your kids?

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Would you let them be on those and let them fund their vision that way?

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Would you come in and help them?

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What would you do, Liz?

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Well, I think the first thing to remember is that there's something of value in all

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of any course or any coach.

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There's going to be something of value.

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And as I said, I read the book, so there's going to be concepts that are going to be

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valuable.

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So we want to look at what is it that's valuable that really can help me from my point of view.

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The other thing about, I'm going to come back to the children part in a minute.

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The other thing about a lot of these courses is that they not only is it a magic pill,

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but it's the right magic pill.

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In other words, do it this way.

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This is the right way to do it.

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And what I want for all of my clients and of course for my children too is there is

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no one right way to do it.

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There's the right way for me, but there's no one right way to do it.

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Because there are many ways to operate in your business and I wouldn't want a four hour

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work week.

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So that's the other thing.

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I don't want that because I love talking with my clients.

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I don't want to talk to four people a week.

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I want to talk to 20 people a week.

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I want to do the work.

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I want to express myself and do the work.

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There's an underlying tone towards the idea that you're going to make work.

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I never know which one it is, on your business so you don't have to work in your business.

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I love working in my business.

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I have no issues working in my business.

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So I would say to my children, well what resonates with you?

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What feels right to you?

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I don't know if you're familiar with New York City at all, but there's a, I don't know,

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a thousand, I don't know how many it is, 500 high schools possibilities.

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And when you're in high school in New York City, you can go to any borough, to any high

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school as long as you get in.

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And what's beautiful about that?

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First of all, it's harder than picking a college.

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College application process is easier than getting into high school in New York City.

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But there are, literally every school has its own theme.

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So my son went to a school with 70 people in his class.

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The art teacher had a ring in her nose.

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Everybody's on a first name basis.

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Totally crunchy granola.

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Really awesome.

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My daughter went to a 1200 person high school on the west side.

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Very busy Times Square area.

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And she had this very high energy type of, you know, everybody's Mrs. and Mr. blah, blah,

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blah.

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So two totally different people, both beautiful children, both needing to find the way through

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to their school process that is right for them.

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And that's what I want people to walk away with is remembering, hey, if you're not having

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success with this course, maybe it's not the right one for you.

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Thank you for sharing that, Liz.

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Next question for you is, I think that answer was very good, by the way.

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I don't think I can add anything to it to get more clarity.

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What is success to you, Liz?

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That's such a beautiful question.

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Thank you for asking.

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I go back to continuing with what we're saying is that success is different for every human

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being.

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And sometimes people will ask me about as a coach, what are some of the successes that

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I've had with my clients?

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Because if they're interviewing me to be a coach, they want to know that I've had successes.

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And that is certainly understandable.

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And I always answer the question as well as I can.

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And everybody wants to hear about the client who came to me and had a full time job.

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And there is a woman that had a full time job and she was able to quit her job and she

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was making within three years, she was making $250,000 a year.

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I am super proud of that.

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She hated her job.

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She wanted to do that.

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That's a good amount of money.

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Very proud of that.

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At the same time, I have people who are so nervous to get in front of a group of people

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that the biggest success and win that they have is they did a webinar and 20 people showed

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up and they just made a pitch and they didn't sell anything but they made a pitch because

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they were so nervous about selling that they did that.

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And then they did it again and then they got 30 people the next time.

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And this time they did sell something.

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So are they quitting their job yet or are they making $250,000 a year?

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No.

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But it's been successful because they took themselves from one level to the next level.

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Everybody wants to talk about big breakthroughs, right?

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Going from six figures in 60 days or this breakthrough.

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I want breakthroughs too.

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Thank you.

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I'm happy to my bank account is ready to receive a million dollar check today.

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Thank you, universe.

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However, I know that the practicality of what occurs in business is you're building.

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You're building one on the next thing.

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So success is a definition might be successes where you're able to take yourself to the

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next level because you've had some transformational experience, some skill that you've honed something

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you've tried that you've never done before and you've been able to implement that so

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that you can take it to the next step at that point.

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So that is what success is to you taking it to the next level.

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Taking it to the next level.

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And as of now, what is your next level?

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Yes.

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Well, I have a lot of things on my plate that I am working on for sure.

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And one of those things is to get as many people as possible to take my free quiz on

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learning about what your CEO entrepreneurial style is, because I'm building my email list

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so that I can share more good information with people.

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And I think most people know that the biggest challenge that we have in business is how

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do you reach more people?

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So I created a quiz that's actually really fun and really easy to do that helps you to

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figure out why you feel stuck based on your CEO personality.

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And so my next level for me is to get people to take that quiz and then of course, in the

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hopes that people want to work with me because I love helping entrepreneurs.

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That's awesome.

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I have one more question and that will be the last question for today's segment, Liz.

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It is very hard and I'm coming to that understanding now in my life that it is hard to learn from

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yours and someone else's mistakes unless you have the right mindset for it.

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And that comes from great leadership skills to do so, being humble enough to realize it.

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That's what it is for me.

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To you, what defines a great leader?

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Well that's great.

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I'm glad you're asking me that because that's really what I'm helping people to identify

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with this quiz that I have that people can take because it's helping you to figure out

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what your leadership style is.

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So there are different styles.

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There's the enthusiastic promoting style.

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There's the excellence controlling style.

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There's the analytical style, expert style, and then there's the empowerment style where

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you have the ability to empower other people as you're more of a people person.

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So what defines a great leader is someone who takes those skills that they have naturally

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or their tendencies you would call them and then they are able from there to develop the

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skills that are in the other three quadrants that they're not as strong at and be able

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to apply some of those.

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So for instance, I'm what they call it, what I call a chief enthusiasm officer which is

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somebody who loves to come up with new ideas and loves to do new fun things.

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And so then I might let go some of the other things that I need to do which is let's say

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create systems or follow up with people or complete a project where someone on the opposite

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spectrum is very deliberate about that but doesn't feel free to create new things.

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So I think a great leader is always looking for ways to develop those skills that they

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have so that they can increase their ability to reach more people.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time

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and attention.

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We're going to have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a Vision Pro

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yourself.

