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has been coaching and motivating and encouraging people.

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It's funny, because my story actually started.

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probably overachiever at some point,

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where we kind of like went full circle

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and I had to kind of learn how to unbecome

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to become who I truly am.

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But I say all that to say is,

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in 2008 I started rapping and thought my life was gonna be,

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I'm the next Lecrae, next Lil Wayne,

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I thought I was gonna be a rapper.

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And I poured heart and soul into that.

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All right, drop it, let's do it, let's do it.

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I don't know about that, I don't know about that.

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So yeah, I poured heart and soul into that

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from 2008 until 2018, so about 10 years.

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wrote, recorded 300-ish songs somewhere in there.

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I just put in the reps, essentially.

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I wasn't, I definitely wasn't the greatest when I started,

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but I always was a proponent of being resourceful

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and finding a way.

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doing all the SEO, all the video editing.

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for about four years.

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and I'm very big in my faith.

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in my walk with Jesus, I really felt like he was asking me

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to lay down the thing that I had found complete identity in,

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which was rapping.

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I started rapping for God, but really not with God,

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Yeah, T-Bone, yeah.

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We met in airplane, and he like, man, oh, that was so cool.

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Yeah, he's super talented.

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I felt like the Lord was asking me to lay down the thing

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and she was very like motivational,

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personal development, Bible-based.

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because I've always been kind of in those circles,

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but really being a part of a team of someone doing that

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during a Les Brown talk.

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and I felt like the Lord was really guiding me

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out of rapping.

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and the last song that I made up before he said this

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it got thousands of streams, it was doing well.

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emotionally, mentally, I would have crumbled under pressure.

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religious leaders fall from grace.

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and I finally hit that burnout.

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and clarity and vision.

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the Lord was asking me, are you willing to leave the job

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and being present as a stay at home dad?

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I'm making a decent, secure salary.

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taking care of this human being, which is crazy in itself.

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and she has a very stable job as a hairstylist.

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that the story I felt like I was drawn to

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that really paints that picture.

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not doing something.

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and I found someone that was doing this online coaching

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saying it was the first time I had really thought about it

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and heard about it and really thought,

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okay, we can try to grow something with this.

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that were within the program I was in,

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really kind of figuring out and navigating

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what I could help people with.

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men leaders, and they've succeeded

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in the business side of things.

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and we can major in the minors,

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and it can be so great to sit there

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but not at the expense of our soul,

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not at the expense of our marriage or our kids.

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on when it comes to my clients.

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Yeah, no, that's my government name, Dustin Wallace.

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But I help a friend of mine, he has a construction company,

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and I was posting for him on his construction company,

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but it looks like the last few posts actually did not.

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That's all right.

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So those memes for like a random construction company

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you see is actually my background of social media.

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that had a construction company.

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I was like, man, I'm glad I see that now.

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Optimize as we go.

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Exactly, I love that.

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We're already winning.

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That's right, man.

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Well, man, you've unpacked quite a bit for me.

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The one quote that really stood out

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above everything else too, that really,

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I mean, I can take away from this,

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and like I'm gonna be using too,

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is how the reality of becoming a father,

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helping become a son as a father of four,

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that resonates so much.

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And to all the visionaries out there listening in, man,

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you carry this wonderful energy.

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You got a tone and a cadence about you

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that just is super authentic,

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super well-practiced and authentic.

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I think that's something that a lot of people

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don't understand is that you can be articulate

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and intentional and be super truthful and centered too.

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You could talk about a million things.

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You choose to talk about incredibly deep realities

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that resonate.

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My last couple of years put me in a position,

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God put me in a position to where I kind of felt

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like I was stuck in a dark hole.

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you know, the great thing about being in a dark hole

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is I can't screw anything up.

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I'm just, God knows where I'm at.

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He obviously knows what I need to be focused on.

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And you know, the seed, right?

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The seed gets shoved down into a dark hole, you know,

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and has to get watered.

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and gets to see the light of day.

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that I've gone through, the trials,

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the things that have shifted the direction

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of where I'm going.

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to go in the future,

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but everything that I went through, you know,

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the goods, the bad, the uglies,

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they've all contributed to, as you said,

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learning to be the sun, learning to be,

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and not just be stuck with all the doing that can distract.

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So you've had resources help you along the way, Red.

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What are three resources you recommend

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for other visionary leaders out there?

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Man, so good.

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All right, so three, I might tag a little short fourth

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as you were speaking of what you were speaking.

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It reminded me of another book that was paramount

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to where I was at in my journey.

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But I'll go quick on the three that I do have.

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And I'll say the first one is gonna be the Bible, obviously.

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Woo!

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I mean, it is the only book that when you read it,

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it reads you, and it's living,

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and it's always gonna work on you more so

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than any self-help book out there, any of those,

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which they're great, and I'm all for learning and growing.

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And at the same time, it's the only book that I've found

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where the author really sits with you,

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and you can have a personal relationship

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with the author as you read it, it's reading you.

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And I could go on forever,

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but I'll keep it short and sweet with that.

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And then I would say the second resource

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would be finding the right mentors, coaches, and community.

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And I didn't just say a blanket statement

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of mentors, coaches, and community, I said the right one.

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And how do you know if they're the right one?

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They're gonna be the one

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that truly have your best interests.

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And they can see things that you don't always see.

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And I think that I have such a beautiful,

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I've been blessed with the best in my church community,

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like my pastors and some of the leaders and mentors

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that I've had have seen what I didn't see.

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Cause I mean, I can remember when I walked into our church,

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it was 2011, and I was insecure, yet prideful,

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little Christian rapper, wannabe rapper.

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Probably, if you've seen the movie Malibu's Most Wanted,

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that was probably me.

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And I remember asking that, like we had a small group

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the first time I went to any kind of like youth event.

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I think I was like 18.

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So I was out, fresh out of high school,

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and I walked into a youth event,

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and there was like a little small group.

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And I asked the pastor, like first time ever meeting,

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the pastor was husband and wife, and it was the wife.

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And I was like, what do I gotta do to be on that stage?

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Literally, first time talking to someone,

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I'm asking what can I do to be on that stage?

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Ridiculous, but what she said stuck with me.

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And she said, if you stay faithful,

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we'll find a place for you.

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And I really feel like it was the divine voice of God

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speaking through her in that moment.

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Cause I never left being planted

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in the local church from that moment.

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I found myself running sound.

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I found myself serving, I was stacking chairs.

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Now someone who came in with such a pride,

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such a, I like to look at it this way.

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I feel like insecurity masquerades around like pride.

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Cause if we really dig deep into someone

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who's very, very prideful,

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you'll notice that there's a bit of insecurity there.

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And I can remember thinking back to that time,

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how insecure I was.

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So I try to be bigger, larger than life

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to make up for what I felt like I was lacking on the inside.

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But that's totally a sidebar of the conversation.

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But I say all that to say is to keep it back

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into this idea of resources and mentors

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is that with the right mentors

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and coaches and community in your life,

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you'll not only go further faster,

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but you'll be doing, you'll be living out

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who you've called, been called and created to be.

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Cause I feel like so often we wanna go so fast,

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especially now microwave generation,

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like we wanted things, Amazon Prime,

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we wanted it yesterday.

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It's already late if it's not here.

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And I feel like there's a beauty

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in slowing down to speed up.

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And I feel like when you're surrounding yourself with-

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Those you listening in, you hear how fast he talks,

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but he still has that appreciation

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for slowing down to speed up.

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I see you dude, I see you man, Red, keep going.

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That's right.

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So yeah, as I say that,

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it's so important to slow down to speed up.

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And a lot of times we need those mentors,

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those coaches, that community to remind us,

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hey, we're going a little bit faster.

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We can slow down and be,

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and I can go on on this forever.

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Yeah, we both could.

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I'm gonna highlight something real fast

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because guys, what you are hearing

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and if you are feeling, if you are willing to,

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I feel hope rising.

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I feel faith.

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I feel light.

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And I feel one of my favorite emotions

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and that celebration when you talk, Red.

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You live by this principle of celebration.

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I can see it.

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The only, the person who I heard on stage talk about that

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was Glenn Morschauer, who's a well-known actor.

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Once somebody looks him up, like, oh yeah,

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I've definitely seen him before.

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Best speech I've ever seen and best motivational talk.

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And he talks about the value of selling,

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because I could never get into the hype.

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I could never get into the excitement.

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Yeah.

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All the falsifying basically victories

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and really being at no celebration.

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As soon as he talked about that and was like,

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stop trying to force it all.

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Like, you know, and we can dive into appreciating

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what we have and celebrating the goodness that's there.

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And you are that essence, dude.

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So thank you.

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So that's another little resource caveat

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for you visioners listening.

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What's the third, man?

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Man, the third.

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So the third, I'll divide it in half.

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I'll cheat a little bit.

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So originally I had chat GPT.

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Now, before you come at me in the comments and the-

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Oh, we're about to double down on that one.

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That robots are gonna take over the world.

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Listen, Jesus is still on the throne.

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But anyway, with that said,

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I believe that we're in such a beautiful time

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of having resources at our fingertips.

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And when I mentioned chat GPT, I don't mean-

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As you do, I gotta validate you again on this, man.

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We're gonna validate this right now.

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For those of you that are watching what's going on here,

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he talked about mentors, right?

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And he talked about the chat GPT.

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Well, we use chat GPT after our episodes

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when people mentioned things like mentors

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to create incredible articles.

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And it does it in 15 minutes.

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Come on.

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And these are amazing.

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So this is the article from another mentor

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and visionary who came on

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who talked about need for coaches and mentors.

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And so I put together a little guide on how to interview,

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attract, onboard and work with top coaches and mentors,

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a step-by-step guide.

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And we show when we create this guide too,

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exactly what I prompted the chat bot to do

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so that we could get such quality information.

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And we always put a disclaimer on here.

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It's not a reflection of our thoughts, feelings or strategy.

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We're not liable for you implementing it.

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I mean, it can make a mistake,

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but it is truly magnificent how fast

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we can get world-class information

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at our fingertips these days.

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And it amplifies, if we use that to amplifies

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all of the goodness we already have within ourselves.

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Come on.

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And I love that you mentioned that

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because that's literally in the notes

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when I wanted to mention that.

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It's a resource, not the source.

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And it's only gonna be able to answer what you give it.

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So if you're there and you're asking it,

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lame average generic questions,

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you're gonna get sent that response.

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I know, I'm sure someone out there has seen someone

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who's used chat GBT incorrectly.

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And you can instantly notice from the verbiage

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and the excessive use of emojis, what's going on.

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But it's so beautiful when you learn

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how to work the resource you have.

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Like I love to go in and hopefully this is not too practical,

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but I feel like I live in this unique space

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of the practical and the mindset.

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So I dig in just a little bit for this,

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but you could go in.

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So for example, I'm writing my first book.

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And as someone who's, I've been around authors,

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my former job, she wrote plenty of books,

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but also as someone doing it myself,

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I also wanna put my best foot forward.

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So I've learned things like I can put in a chapter

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of my book to chat GBT and I can be like,

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act as a bestselling editor in this genre.

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This is who it's gonna be on the shelf next to

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and give me feedback.

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What can I improve?

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Bro, I was literally, I hadn't done it yet.

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You're ahead of me.

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I literally though, two days ago, I was like, oh man,

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when I do my manuscript review,

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I am definitely using chat GBT next time

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to dive in and do that.

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Okay.

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That's awesome.

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It's gonna give you an unbiased third party opinion

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on things and especially when you give it what to act like.

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Cause if you were to just tell it blankly to do this,

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it might give you some good results.

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Right, exactly.

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I was thinking like, yeah.

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What I was thinking about doing it with

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was with our power marketing funnel.

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And I was thinking, man, I can't wait to put this

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in the chat GBT and say, I want your opinion.

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What all is wrong with this?

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How can you counter argue with what I've put together

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and show me, prove to me how many fallacies and errors

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are in this process, right?

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I want that.

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I want to see what it sees that I cannot see.

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It's not gonna robotically change me.

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I still have the ability to be me,

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but I love that heat and that refinement

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because that's how you create the gold.

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So that's huge.

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I love that.

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I love that.

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So is that three and four?

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That's three.

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So four is actually a book that I read not that long ago

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and I revisit it from time to time.

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It's called Anonymous by Alicia Britt Cole.

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And it's one of those things where sometimes

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I feel like the Lord, like you mentioned,

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you felt like you've been in this dark hole

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and to circle back to when you mentioned that,

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it made me think of that.

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Cause when I went into that season

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of just taking care of our son

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and I didn't have any obligations

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other than being a stay at home dad,

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also in the midst of a great pandemic.

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So even more so I'm in hiding essentially.

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And I can remember reading that book

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and it was so beautiful to think that

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even when you feel like you're unseen

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and no one's knowing what you're doing

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or what you're going through, God sees you.

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And not only that, he's walking with you

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and he's preparing you.

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And it goes back to that idea

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that we're human beings, not human doings.

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And a lot of times it takes time to be forced into that

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because if we're not careful being high achievers,

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high performers, it's very easy for us

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to slip into the doing too much.

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It's that dark side, that shadow of our strengths.

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But I definitely recommend that one

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if you're in a space of maybe you feel

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like you're not being seen.

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It's Anonymous by Alicia Britt Cole.

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But yeah, those are the four, the Holy Bible,

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the right mentors, coaches and community,

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chat GBT and that book called Anonymous.

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I was talking to a visionary client this morning

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and she's off to the right,

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she's crushing through her stuff.

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And so our conversation, you know,

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you would naturally come in and crush more.

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Our conversation was about balance and how like, okay,

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now you're, you know, imagine you're taking 30 pound bags

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of soil to your backyard and you got 100 of them to take

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for this massive garden you're building.

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Well, you were carrying 10 pound bags before this.

522
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,440
Now you're carrying 30 pound bags,

523
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,880
but you've also got a team of people

524
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,960
who are carrying bags with you now.

525
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:06,880
Your role changes and you have somebody

526
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,760
who's directing the project.

527
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:10,740
So now you're gonna start feeling a couple of things.

528
00:22:10,740 --> 00:22:14,520
If you try to carry 130 pound bags,

529
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,200
the same way you were carrying 110 pound bags

530
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,040
and she's in her seventies, right?

531
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,680
So this is really relevant for where she's at.

532
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:23,520
You can't do that.

533
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:25,060
You can't go at the same pace

534
00:22:25,060 --> 00:22:28,200
and you need more water than you normally typically have.

535
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,880
You need more breaks than you typically have.

536
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,540
When you start to do things that are way beyond

537
00:22:33,540 --> 00:22:35,180
what you've done in the past,

538
00:22:35,180 --> 00:22:36,680
there needs to be more balance.

539
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,280
And now instead of having that imposter syndrome

540
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,160
of feeling like I'm doing less or man,

541
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,420
I need to get up and do something, learning to be centered,

542
00:22:46,420 --> 00:22:48,640
learning to realize that it's okay

543
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,000
to have a different type of lifestyle

544
00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:53,280
and to dive more into hobbies and things like that

545
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,000
and to take more time for rest.

546
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,200
There's so many paradigm shifts that visionaries,

547
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,580
we get the opportunity to go through as we're building.

548
00:23:01,580 --> 00:23:03,760
And that's one of the essences

549
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,720
that I hear about this anonymous reality

550
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,240
and the whole COVID pandemic stuff.

551
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,380
I know a lot of people relate to what you're going through.

552
00:23:12,380 --> 00:23:15,280
I'm one of those people who sometimes feel like my story

553
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,200
is isolated related to that.

554
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,280
But if I choose not to isolate myself, right?

555
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,100
Talk about it, see what's there.

556
00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:23,760
It's amazing what happens.

557
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,920
And then we get to become mentors too

558
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,860
for people who are going through things.

559
00:23:27,860 --> 00:23:31,280
My wife and I at the time, I'm divorced again.

560
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,120
We were married the month before COVID in Mexico.

561
00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:38,380
And we came back to sell my stuff, move to Mexico,

562
00:23:38,380 --> 00:23:40,680
but we came back the day they shut the border.

563
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,440
I was already a single father of three.

564
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:45,440
We were pregnant.

565
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,800
She came over across the border on a visa

566
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,240
to just be there for a moment,

567
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,720
ended up as an illegal immigrant.

568
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,760
And our entire world,

569
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,740
we fell into an international black hole

570
00:23:54,740 --> 00:23:55,760
that we could not get out of.

571
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,320
We literally could not escape it.

572
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,240
It was nuts.

573
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,280
And the pressures, the adversities,

574
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,920
the challenges that we faced

575
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,200
because of those circumstances,

576
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:07,560
created a refiner's fire

577
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,560
that was a very interesting process to battle through.

578
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,400
And God and I had our battles, as you mentioned,

579
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,760
very, very strong ones.

580
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,920
And I found myself in a new position

581
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,920
of single father of four with three kids in one city,

582
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,760
one kid in another,

583
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:29,040
and me living in somewhere in between at this point, finally,

584
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,680
learning to balance all of that,

585
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,360
run a business at the same time,

586
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:36,400
try to figure out how to do it all wasn't the key.

587
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,480
It was learning how to be.

588
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,860
It was learning to let go and let God.

589
00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:43,300
So I really, really appreciate you bringing it up.

590
00:24:43,300 --> 00:24:45,400
I don't talk about that a lot on this podcast.

591
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,400
They usually do in my interviews,

592
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,240
but brother, we've got a whole world

593
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:50,380
to inspire and visionaries,

594
00:24:50,380 --> 00:24:53,720
whatever you're up against, be prudent, turn to God.

595
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,400
We're not your saviors either,

596
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,880
but we are here to help guide

597
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,480
and perhaps there's some resources that we'll have.

598
00:24:58,480 --> 00:24:59,400
So we'll be right back.

599
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,680
We'll dive in and talk about the,

600
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,080
how do we chisel away at the false narratives

601
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,560
when a society is driving us towards false narratives

602
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,040
over and over.

603
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,680
And how do we also look for our limiting beliefs

604
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,200
and maybe get past those two.

605
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,640
Red Wallace is obviously a leader in the space

606
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:17,700
of helping us get through that.

607
00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:19,060
So we'll be right back.

608
00:25:19,060 --> 00:25:22,320
All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live.

609
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,360
With Jackson Callum, I'm your show host.

610
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:27,040
We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs

611
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,000
and guest leaders who are building

612
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,520
fantastic visions out there.

613
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,560
Hey, what's up everybody?

614
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,760
Welcome in to another episode of Vision Pros Live.

615
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,520
I'm your show host, Jackson Callum,

616
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,400
founder and CEO of First Class Business.

617
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,840
And I am so stoked this week.

618
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,000
It feels like my birthday almost every single day

619
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,040
that I get to work with my team.

620
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,960
There's so many great things that are coming forward.

621
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,840
And then we've got these excellent leaders

622
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,040
like the quality of our leaders

623
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:00,160
since the beginning of the show to now

624
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,500
has always been really good.

625
00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:04,120
And because of the reach that we're getting,

626
00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:05,240
thanks to all of you who listen in

627
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:07,560
and help with the process of subscribing,

628
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,920
rating and promoting it.

629
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,920
We got even greater leaders coming in

630
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,880
to share even broader visions

631
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,860
and people who are starting to organize things

632
00:26:14,860 --> 00:26:16,960
like panel discussions with us.

633
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,640
So we got some fun things to come.

634
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,080
Today we've got coach Red Wallace on,

635
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,520
and we're gonna be talking about false narratives,

636
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:24,520
limiting beliefs.

637
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,000
Before I bring him back on stage,

638
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,360
I wanna give you guys access to some of the resources

639
00:26:28,360 --> 00:26:30,920
you may not have gotten involved with yet.

640
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,300
And I highly recommend, in fact, they just invite you.

641
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:35,360
Check them out.

642
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:39,160
We got hardtokill.org with Dave Morrow.

643
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,780
Dave Morrow is a world-class leader.

644
00:26:40,780 --> 00:26:42,300
We very much enjoyed working with him

645
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:43,520
for the past six months.

646
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,720
He's built this community to help 100,000 veterans

647
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,440
lose 2 million pounds collectively.

648
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:49,460
And he's well on his way.

649
00:26:49,460 --> 00:26:52,160
I think we need to start upping the number

650
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,680
on that goal very, very soon.

651
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,520
He's an award-winning podcaster.

652
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:59,000
He spoke at the Military Influencer Expo in Georgia.

653
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,440
And if you look up Dave Morrow Afghanistan,

654
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,440
you'll see some of the work that he put in

655
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,480
to help try to protect the translators

656
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,880
who were affected by the withdrawal.

657
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,240
I'm not gonna get political on this,

658
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,160
but I am going to dive into the fact

659
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,800
that our veterans need more support.

660
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,760
They need communities where they can get that support.

661
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,920
He's opened his doors to those of us

662
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,240
who are also civilians.

663
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,520
We can now join the hard to kill community as well.

664
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,600
And he's helped me get back on track with my health,

665
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,440
which is huge.

666
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,720
I took an eight-year break almost

667
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,480
from any responsibilities related to my health.

668
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,440
Not a great or wise break to make,

669
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:35,760
especially as a single father.

670
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,080
So I'm really grateful for what he's done

671
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,720
to help me get back on track health-wise.

672
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,280
I'm sure he can help you as well.

673
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:42,840
Then there's opportunities.

674
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:44,520
Opportunities are a homegrown program.

675
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,780
I've been trying to build this up for almost 15 years,

676
00:27:46,780 --> 00:27:47,620
very slowly.

677
00:27:47,620 --> 00:27:49,040
I was pretty scared to build this.

678
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,280
Now, as you can see, it is not only just my program,

679
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,020
it's a Latino run program.

680
00:27:54,020 --> 00:27:55,360
Diana is the director.

681
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:58,200
Cynthia, who's helping us on the screen shares,

682
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,720
also a part of the leadership team

683
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,560
at Obrador de la Nace de Trabajo para Latinos.

684
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,120
They have their own podcast,

685
00:28:04,120 --> 00:28:07,080
and their podcast is starting to smoke ours.

686
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:11,240
They've got influencers on that show,

687
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,060
Latinos who are inspiring,

688
00:28:13,060 --> 00:28:16,440
that have 900,000 plus subscribers on their show.

689
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,960
And Luisa, her first interview ever in a podcast format

690
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,640
was with Kike Anglais, with over 900,000 subscribers.

691
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,840
Can you imagine that type of traction

692
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,800
when you first start and launch something?

693
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,020
So it is really beautiful to see this come together.

694
00:28:30,020 --> 00:28:32,320
And we hope that if you know any Latinos

695
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,160
who could help out with the process

696
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,760
of inspiring more Latinos to get involved,

697
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,320
then send them our way, let them come on,

698
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:39,620
have them come on our show.

699
00:28:39,620 --> 00:28:41,960
And we'd be happy to hear about their stories.

700
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,360
We are bridging the economic gap

701
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,000
between North America, South America,

702
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,040
and rest of the world through this program.

703
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,280
And the job training program is absolutely free

704
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,760
to any Latinos who come in

705
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,300
and wanna learn how to be virtual assistants

706
00:28:53,300 --> 00:28:55,600
and what we call digital ambassadors.

707
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,000
If you're looking to hire virtual assistants,

708
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,200
please come and talk to us

709
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,200
because we don't believe in the VA behaviors we see.

710
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,000
We call it virtual abuse.

711
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,680
I'm tired of seeing entrepreneurs not take any interest

712
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,040
in who the people are that they're working with.

713
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,520
You start taking care of your people,

714
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:12,840
you start caring about them.

715
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:14,360
It's amazing what happens

716
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,760
and what types of results they can drive

717
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,560
when you pay attention to what their needs are.

718
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,720
So let's do that together.

719
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,660
Then there's the water project.

720
00:29:21,660 --> 00:29:24,720
The water project is not something that is,

721
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,080
that we have any affiliation with.

722
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,960
It's something that truly inspires me though.

723
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,800
They show so much transparency with bringing water

724
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,480
to the millions of people who don't have access

725
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,360
to one of the most essential resources on our planet

726
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,960
and one that I've taken for granted my entire life.

727
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,500
So when I saw how they were doing this,

728
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:43,680
like a Kickstarter project,

729
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,480
then you can donate like 10 bucks, 20 bucks to it.

730
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,040
And you can pick which community you actually affect.

731
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,760
You then get to see the outcome

732
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,360
and the borehole well or the sand dam that they create.

733
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:55,480
That level of transparency

734
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,560
and the fact that they also focus on remote zones of Africa

735
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,000
that are very hard to get to,

736
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,440
not necessarily like the tourist destinations.

737
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,040
So again, I really feel inspired by what they do.

738
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,920
This picture right here makes me always remember

739
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:10,960
that these kids celebrate water,

740
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,720
like my kids celebrate Christmas day.

741
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:14,700
So my hope is again,

742
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:16,960
if you're not in a financial position to help out,

743
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,200
maybe have a dinner conversation about this with people.

744
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,960
Maybe share or tag somebody in this.

745
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,400
You never know who you'll inspire to help out.

746
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,120
We've got 8 billion people in this world to help out

747
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,720
and why not do everything that we can

748
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,880
to help with those processes.

749
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,720
If you know of a cause that you'd like to see us talk about

750
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,920
or maybe consider,

751
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,720
please drop the link to the cause in the chat.

752
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,200
Let us come in and chat and dialogue about it

753
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,440
and see what we might be able to do together.

754
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,840
And without further ado,

755
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:49,320
Coach Red Wallace, welcome to Vision Pros Live.

756
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,320
Thanks for having me.

757
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,280
Man, what great work you're doing.

758
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,120
Like as you're mentioning that the water project,

759
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,360
it's so great to hear another person in this space,

760
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,160
not just in it to get rich,

761
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:05,880
which obviously nothing's wrong with wealth.

762
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:06,720
It's my product.

763
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:07,560
It's my product.

764
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,680
It's my product, but I always say,

765
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,920
impact first and income follows.

766
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,640
But without-

767
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,600
You and Les Brown, how long did you guys hang out?

768
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:16,440
You're full of the-

769
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,320
So it's the rapping mentality too.

770
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,520
It is, but yeah.

771
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,320
Impact and the income follows.

772
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,160
Yeah.

773
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:25,000
I'm crying down on you.

774
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,120
Impact first, income follows.

775
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,160
Keep going, man.

776
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,000
I didn't mean to cut you off.

777
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:32,000
I just get excited because you always get excited.

778
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,720
I get excited to piggyback off of another.

779
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:40,400
Man, I love well put together sayings.

780
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,080
Like I said this in another podcast today.

781
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,080
I really feel like I'm a wordsmith

782
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,960
and there's such a beauty in,

783
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,280
and this is a bit of a tangent.

784
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,760
So apologies if I go on too long, definitely cut me off,

785
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,080
but there's a beauty in understanding.

786
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,320
So there's a pastor named Steven Furtick

787
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,720
and I heard him say-

788
00:31:58,720 --> 00:31:59,600
Let's do this too.

789
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:00,440
Let's tie it.

790
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,160
I'm gonna make it harder for you.

791
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,320
Like they do with that other rapper

792
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,120
who's gone real viral lately and they give them words.

793
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:05,960
I'm gonna-

794
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:06,800
Oh yeah, yeah.

795
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,640
Harry Mack.

796
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:08,460
Harry Mack.

797
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:09,300
There it is, man.

798
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:10,720
Oh, shout out to Harry Mack.

799
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,520
So let's tie that.

800
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,000
Whatever you're about to say too,

801
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,080
false narratives or limiting beliefs.

802
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:17,860
Perfect.

803
00:32:17,860 --> 00:32:19,480
It's gonna already tie into it.

804
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,920
So like I was saying,

805
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,880
there's a pastor named Steven Furtick

806
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,360
and I heard him say this

807
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,840
and I really have to set the tone.

808
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,600
When I heard him say this in a message once,

809
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,460
I was actually, this is years ago,

810
00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:37,120
I was working at a local Tex-Mex restaurant

811
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,960
and I was a bus boy.

812
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,320
I was there early,

813
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,840
before anyone else was there early mopping up the place.

814
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:48,080
And I quickly learned that in that timeframe of mopping,

815
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,640
I have an opportunity

816
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:51,560
because I can focus on anything

817
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:52,960
because mopping is one of those tasks

818
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,760
that you can do kind of like mindlessly

819
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,120
as your mind wonders.

820
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,800
And at first, of course, me being a rapper back then,

821
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,280
I was listening to a bunch of rap,

822
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,640
just like thinking of things,

823
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,900
like I'd write some songs.

824
00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:07,160
But then it shifted when I started really listening to like,

825
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,540
whether it's messages from preachers

826
00:33:09,540 --> 00:33:11,360
or other personal development things.

827
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,760
And sure enough, this day,

828
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,400
this pastor said that your necks is connected to your now.

829
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,080
And I never really understood it, but it stuck out to me.

830
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,600
And then years later, as I'm sitting here now

831
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,200
and I think about that,

832
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,920
I mentioned how I feel like I'm a wordsmith

833
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,520
and how I have a former career as a rapper,

834
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,360
whether that's being on stage

835
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,360
or whether that's creating music and writing lyrics.

836
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:38,880
I see that now in what I do,

837
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,560
whether it's making content

838
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,160
and seeing how can I explain something in a way

839
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,120
where it comes across, not universal,

840
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,400
but what's seemingly complex, make it simple.

841
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,760
And you said there's false narratives.

842
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,760
It's gonna tie into another story.

843
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,120
You might've heard me mention it before,

844
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,260
but most of us know who Michelangelo is.

845
00:34:00,260 --> 00:34:02,480
I mean, if you haven't lived under a rock.

846
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,320
I love that.

847
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,400
I'm glad you reminded me of this

848
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:07,320
because where you're about to go with this chiseling thing,

849
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,860
that's one thing to hear it.

850
00:34:08,860 --> 00:34:09,880
It's another to remember it.

851
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:11,880
It's another to master this concept

852
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,960
and allow it to really impact you.

853
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,120
So it's one of those things where every time you hear it,

854
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:18,760
there's something new you can learn from it.

855
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,360
So get it.

856
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:21,200
So good.

857
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,080
So as I was saying, we all know who Michelangelo is

858
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,980
and he's made amazing paintings, sculpting,

859
00:34:27,980 --> 00:34:29,880
but the one I wanna zero in on

860
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,400
is there was this amazing immaculate sculpture of David,

861
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,000
the Bible character David.

862
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,520
And there was someone who asked him

863
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,280
after they saw it in person,

864
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,840
how like meticulously detailed it was.

865
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:44,960
They asked Michelangelo,

866
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,460
how in the world did you take a hunk of marble, granite,

867
00:34:48,460 --> 00:34:49,960
whatever it may be that they use,

868
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,600
a big old hunk of rock that's seemingly formless,

869
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,560
but just big giant weird thing.

870
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,680
And how did you take that?

871
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,000
And I picture even as I say that,

872
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,040
and I don't have words for it,

873
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,880
I picture that person as they were asking,

874
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,520
because they saw it beforehand.

875
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,440
Like for us, we see it all the time.

876
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,920
But this person was walking through

877
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,020
and saw nothing out of nothing.

878
00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:17,560
Anyways, I could go off on that.

879
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,800
But he asked, he looked at Michelangelo and he said,

880
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,100
how in the world did you create a masterpiece out of this?

881
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:24,740
And he said, it's simple.

882
00:35:24,740 --> 00:35:27,400
I just chiseled away the parts that weren't David.

883
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:32,400
And I feel like so strongly that that's what we live.

884
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,660
When we're living out of, like you said,

885
00:35:35,660 --> 00:35:38,240
false beliefs, false narratives,

886
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,600
there's been stories that somewhere along our line,

887
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,240
someone has told you, they might've told you

888
00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:48,140
that you're not creative or you're dumb or you're slow.

889
00:35:48,140 --> 00:35:51,080
And they may have been throwaway statements.

890
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,680
They may not even intentionally hurt you that way.

891
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,960
But you'll be surprised how you're looking 20, 30 years

892
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,020
down the line and you're living a lesser life

893
00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:05,600
because you've saw your whole entire identity

894
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,880
through this lens.

895
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,000
And I feel like a lot of-

896
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:13,200
I went live on Facebook way back, I don't know,

897
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,120
it was 2013 or so probably.

898
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,820
I was going live on Facebook and a friend, right?

899
00:36:18,820 --> 00:36:22,040
Quote unquote comes on and says,

900
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:24,560
when are you gonna give up on all this washed up,

901
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,680
discount Tony Robbins bull crap?

902
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:27,600
Oh man.

903
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,240
And I blocked him.

904
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,400
I was like, I don't need this in my life.

905
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,300
There was other reasons why he did it.

906
00:36:35,240 --> 00:36:39,040
And then I was like, never.

907
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,760
But I stopped for years.

908
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,920
I stopped.

909
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:46,640
It did have its impact.

910
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,220
I wasn't in a position to where I could get over

911
00:36:49,220 --> 00:36:51,940
the limiting beliefs and the false narratives.

912
00:36:51,940 --> 00:36:53,640
Granted, I still had little kids too

913
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,800
where I wasn't quite ready to be full time on the mic.

914
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:01,200
But it had a massive impact that took me some time

915
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,600
to figure out how do you escape this?

916
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,920
How do you prepare yourself for the resilience necessary?

917
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,920
How do you not allow sentiments like that

918
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,000
or feelings like that to take away from who you are?

919
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,400
So I can't imagine I'm the only person in the world

920
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,160
who let things go for a while

921
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,240
and didn't pursue my dreams or my purpose.

922
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:27,360
Come on, and it's so good and I love the question

923
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:28,440
you asked too.

924
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,940
How do you not let it get to you?

925
00:37:30,940 --> 00:37:33,600
Well, obviously sometimes it's still gonna get to you.

926
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:34,960
I'll start by that.

927
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:36,400
Thank you.

928
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,920
I literally had a comment today.

929
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:39,760
What was it?

930
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,400
I posted a short on YouTube and some random person commented

931
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,760
and they said, YouTube shorts brought me to a lost leprechaun

932
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,560
speaking bollocks.

933
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,120
And I'm like, now I can laugh.

934
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:52,960
Yeah, now I can laugh.

935
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,760
I'm laughing with you because you're amazing.

936
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,800
That's funny.

937
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,520
Now I can laugh, but previously.

938
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:58,600
I should, thank you.

939
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,440
If he would have said that when I was-

940
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,320
That is my lost leprechaun you're talking about here.

941
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,440
Like, get out of here.

942
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,380
Yeah, and I say all that to say is the way that comments

943
00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:11,400
like that won't bother you anymore

944
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,400
is it's not gonna be overnight.

945
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,880
And there's still gonna be times when you're at your lowest

946
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,760
and I mean, we do, things are more spiritual

947
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,880
than a lot of us think.

948
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,560
And there is a prince of darkness out there.

949
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,960
Remember the Titans, Denzel Washington, right?

950
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,760
He's facing the coach that try to get him fired

951
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,040
and all things and he'd called him a monkey.

952
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,720
And at the halfway point when they're,

953
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:36,000
he gives him the banana, you know?

954
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,760
And it's like, he had that strength to embrace it, right?

955
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,880
You go buy a leprechaun hat, you know,

956
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,320
and like embrace it, right?

957
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:47,900
Like it's when we can honor the realities that, you know,

958
00:38:47,900 --> 00:38:50,220
sometimes that even if they seem like a jab,

959
00:38:50,220 --> 00:38:52,600
most of the time they're jabbing at a virtue

960
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,560
that we possess.

961
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:55,800
And it's hard to recognize that,

962
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,360
but I gotta give a huge shout out to another leprechaun

963
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,320
and that's JP Sears, his Ted Talk, right?

964
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,520
That was a huge, huge impact for me on being able to say,

965
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,800
you know what, long hair.

966
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,060
I was like, I'm gonna do it.

967
00:39:08,060 --> 00:39:09,740
You know, it was my son that inspired it,

968
00:39:09,740 --> 00:39:14,440
but JP Sears also kind of gave me permission

969
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,000
to be myself, right?

970
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,400
And say, you know what, goofy, you know,

971
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,280
heroes in the logo, all this stuff like,

972
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,520
yeah, I'm gonna do me.

973
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,560
Come on, and I love it.

974
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,520
And you made a perfect example of this,

975
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:33,440
is you found the permission to be you.

976
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:34,280
Yeah.

977
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,800
Because if we're not careful, so often,

978
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,380
we'll go and try to fit ourselves

979
00:39:38,380 --> 00:39:40,960
into what the world has told us to be,

980
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,980
when God has created you to be you.

981
00:39:43,980 --> 00:39:46,000
Like, I can't be Jackson.

982
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,280
I, it would probably be cool in some areas.

983
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:50,120
Sometimes.

984
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,840
Just like you couldn't be Red.

985
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,020
And you know, like, and when we realize that,

986
00:39:56,020 --> 00:39:59,200
and we truly tap into the fact of who we are,

987
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,680
that's when we begin to truly find fulfillment,

988
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,460
find purpose, find calling,

989
00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:05,720
and we no longer live that false narrative.

990
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:07,800
Yes.

991
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,640
Oh, it's so huge.

992
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:09,460
Okay.

993
00:40:09,460 --> 00:40:13,600
So we're gonna skip to my absolute favorite question.

994
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,480
Man, as many times as you wanna come back, Red,

995
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:16,800
we gotta have you back.

996
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,640
Definitely.

997
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:18,480
Oh, this is so cool.

998
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:19,320
This is so good.

999
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:20,240
So uplifting, you know,

1000
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:21,600
and for all those listening in,

1001
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,400
like even if you didn't like understand

1002
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,360
a single word we said,

1003
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:27,600
but the ambiance uplifts you,

1004
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:28,440
run with that.

1005
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,160
Use that energy.

1006
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,360
So if this was the last chance

1007
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,640
that you had to share with the world,

1008
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:35,680
truly last chance,

1009
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:37,120
what powerful lesson

1010
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,520
can other visionaries learn from your experience?

1011
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,620
I love that question.

1012
00:40:42,620 --> 00:40:44,280
There's many different ways I could take it,

1013
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,400
but I feel like this is,

1014
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,760
and I touched on it a little bit earlier,

1015
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,520
but I feel like there,

1016
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,960
it starts with awareness of,

1017
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,260
so we have strengths,

1018
00:40:55,260 --> 00:40:56,560
and these strengths are great,

1019
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,500
and we need to lean into those strengths.

1020
00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:01,240
And we have to know that there's a shadow

1021
00:41:01,240 --> 00:41:03,640
and a dark side to those strengths.

1022
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:04,600
Like I love,

1023
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,000
a lot of visionaries are gonna be watching this.

1024
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,200
I feel like the shadow and the dark side

1025
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,520
of being a visionary

1026
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,060
is when we start bringing these teams on,

1027
00:41:14,060 --> 00:41:15,960
we can plow over them

1028
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,120
because we've got so much vision

1029
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,200
that we don't think about how much it takes

1030
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,880
to really execute it.

1031
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:26,880
And I really encourage those other visionaries

1032
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,160
out there watching,

1033
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,600
is you're not gonna see that,

1034
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,560
I mean, you can see that alone,

1035
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,280
but that's where that mentoring,

1036
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,360
that coaching, that community comes in,

1037
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,600
because we all have blind spots.

1038
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:39,920
I love to say it like this,

1039
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,420
we can't see 360.

1040
00:41:41,420 --> 00:41:43,120
Like I would love to see my back right now

1041
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,040
because I have a four-year-old

1042
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,480
that might've stuck a sticker,

1043
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,320
kick me sticker.

1044
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,520
And I'm not gonna know that

1045
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,120
until either A, people start kicking me,

1046
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,560
or two, I have someone to come along

1047
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,920
and say, hey bud, you got a little sticker

1048
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,520
or you got some spinach and steak in your teeth,

1049
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,940
or hey, you got your fly down,

1050
00:42:00,940 --> 00:42:02,720
you're walking around, goodness.

1051
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:04,320
You don't want that.

1052
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,240
And that's only gonna come

1053
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:10,400
when we swallow the pride of thinking we're self-made.

1054
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,000
And I feel like it's another shadow

1055
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,920
and dark side of being visionary.

1056
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,560
Because it's very easy for us to get into

1057
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,880
this little box in this little world

1058
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:22,280
where everyone's a yes man,

1059
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,360
or everyone's saying, you're the greatest,

1060
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:25,840
all your ideas are amazing.

1061
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,880
Yes, you have a ton of amazing ideas

1062
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:29,140
and a lot of vision.

1063
00:42:29,140 --> 00:42:31,120
Some of them aren't great.

1064
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,180
And I feel like it's so important

1065
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:34,300
for us to have that community,

1066
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:36,880
have those mentors, have those guides

1067
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,640
that are not gonna be afraid

1068
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,840
to tell you the kind truth.

1069
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,720
Again, the packaging is important.

1070
00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,720
Just as much as what you say to someone.

1071
00:42:46,720 --> 00:42:47,540
What's the quote?

1072
00:42:47,540 --> 00:42:49,760
People are gonna remember how you made them feel

1073
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,680
before they hear what you said.

1074
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,640
And I think that that's such an important piece

1075
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,080
to really bring home is that powerful lesson

1076
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,360
of if you are a leader and you are a visionary,

1077
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,640
think about the shadow and the dark side of your strengths.

1078
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,040
But think about it from a lens of the people

1079
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,700
that are around you, whether it's your employees

1080
00:43:09,700 --> 00:43:11,640
or those that you're called to serve,

1081
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,600
and think of how it impacts them.

1082
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,440
Because it's very, again, we have such drive

1083
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,840
and drive is good.

1084
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,240
Ambition is good when it's directed in the right way.

1085
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:28,480
Don't crush everyone in your way to get to your success.

1086
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,320
Right, there's different ways to get to success

1087
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,960
is what you're really referring to.

1088
00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:38,200
And you look at two extremely successful leaders,

1089
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,280
some that we might villainize and some that we might herald.

1090
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,560
You got Martin Luther King, who led with love.

1091
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,760
You got Hitler, who led with hate.

1092
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,160
And let's keep the two extremes at those individuals.

1093
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,320
I'm not gonna judge either one.

1094
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,600
I don't have that capacity and power,

1095
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,120
but they both had extreme strengths.

1096
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,800
And so we as visionaries don't always,

1097
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,000
again, perspective's so hard to see.

1098
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:08,200
And so we end up taking things one certain way,

1099
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,880
but it's like if we argued right now about my thumb,

1100
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,320
and you're arguing about one side,

1101
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,200
I'm telling you, I see a nail and you're like,

1102
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,480
I see a fingerprint and I'm like, well, you're lying.

1103
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,120
And I'm not like you, you can't see both sides.

1104
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:21,960
Well, we have a YouTube video.

1105
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:23,760
I'll drop it in the resources as well.

1106
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,800
In fact, it's just a little video.

1107
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,560
I didn't post it to YouTube yet.

1108
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,280
It's called the 4D perspective.

1109
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,960
And it talks about the 3D aspect that you're talking about.

1110
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,360
It talks about God's dimension as well

1111
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,160
and how he see things from across time as well.

1112
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,560
You can see the past future, the present, all of that.

1113
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,560
We have such limited view as human beings

1114
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:50,560
that as entrepreneurs, when we take a back seat

1115
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,520
or when we take a step back and take the humility approach,

1116
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,080
the confidence to be able to trust

1117
00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,000
that somebody else is gonna help,

1118
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,680
we surround ourselves with great people

1119
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,080
who can uplift us up.

1120
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,760
You said coaches, you said mentors, you did not say coach.

1121
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:04,960
You did not say mentor.

1122
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,400
LeBron James is on my wall for a reason.

1123
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:08,840
He doesn't have one coach.

1124
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,000
I hate when people say, I hate it when they say it,

1125
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,080
I don't hate them.

1126
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:13,760
I feel bad for them when they say,

1127
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,440
I already have a coach.

1128
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,560
I'm like, do they control you?

1129
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,960
Like, what got you to say that

1130
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:26,280
where you felt like they were the God of everything you do?

1131
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,680
We can't do that to, I won't do that to myself.

1132
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:30,680
I need lots of coaches and mentors,

1133
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,120
whether it's my children that are coaching me,

1134
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,200
I'm being a better dad and saying, dad,

1135
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,760
that doesn't feel right.

1136
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:40,280
Or whether it's my ex who says,

1137
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,240
whatever she has to say about life,

1138
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,760
or it's somebody that we're paying in coaching capacity,

1139
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:46,560
team members that we're working with.

1140
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,840
We can do far better when we have people around us

1141
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,880
who are supportive and who are healthy.

1142
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:56,000
Be careful who you bring into your life though,

1143
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,600
because not everybody will lead you to your next levels.

1144
00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:00,680
So dude, this is awesome.

1145
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,000
Thank you, you inspired it.

1146
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,320
I get the color comment, I get the easy part.

1147
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,080
Oh, I feel the same way.

1148
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,400
When I'm podcasting and I'm in the other shoes,

1149
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:12,320
it's so great, it's fun to be on this side for sure.

1150
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,360
Thank you for the free session, Red Wallace.

1151
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,360
I appreciate this.

1152
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:18,840
It's so powerful.

1153
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:20,560
So those of you listening in,

1154
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,440
you'll be able to connect with Red, of course.

1155
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,880
All the links will be below the show.

1156
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,080
It says action steps to get connected with Red.

1157
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:28,320
And then below that,

1158
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,680
we'll also have all the resources that we talked about.

1159
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:32,800
So you can dive into that deeper level well

1160
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,360
of resources that have helped us get to where we are.

1161
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,400
If you feel inspired by that, awesome.

1162
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,640
Please note to the visionaries,

1163
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,000
you're not gonna have the same path and the same journey.

1164
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,200
You don't have all the same variables that Red and I have.

1165
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,840
And so your journey and experience is going to be unique.

1166
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,040
Honor you and the process of leaning

1167
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:52,760
on what we might have to offer.

1168
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,400
And if you're also somebody who wants to share your vision

1169
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,280
on this show, top right corner,

1170
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,240
there's a button that says, be our guest.

1171
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:00,080
Come and talk about it.

1172
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:01,240
If you're helping the world out,

1173
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:02,760
we wanna have you on the show.

1174
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,960
Red, I'm gonna let you close out today.

1175
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:04,920
Any final thoughts?

1176
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:08,200
Come on, I would just say,

1177
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,560
again, I love what you said about the coaches, plural.

1178
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,160
And I would add in on that being coachable

1179
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:16,120
as a part of that.

1180
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,680
And land the plane a little bit.

1181
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,360
I also love you mentioned that you had the four Ds

1182
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,880
because as I prepare and release my first book,

1183
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,680
which you can find that link somewhere,

1184
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,120
join the waiting list for that.

1185
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,360
It's called the Red Print,

1186
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,000
the five Rs to discover your true identity.

1187
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,240
And I could go through them real quick,

1188
00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:39,080
but you know what, I'll go through them real quick.

1189
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,680
So the five Rs are you've got to recognize.

1190
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,280
So like we mentioned today,

1191
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,440
you've got to recognize those false narratives,

1192
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:46,440
those limited beliefs,

1193
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,840
those lies that you've been seeing as true when they're not.

1194
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,400
And then once you've recognized, then you can reorganize.

1195
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,600
You can shift your thoughts,

1196
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:57,160
the way that your mindset aligns with the true freedom

1197
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:58,360
that you've been called to.

1198
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,840
And then that third R is rediscover.

1199
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:02,560
Because once you've recognized the lies

1200
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,120
and you've shifted your thoughts,

1201
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:07,080
you then begin to rediscover who God has created

1202
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,240
and called you to be.

1203
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:11,120
And then out of rediscovering, you start rebuilding

1204
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:15,120
and you've rebuilt on a foundation that's so strong.

1205
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:16,400
But it doesn't stop there.

1206
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,320
Like once you've built the house,

1207
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,840
then there's that refinement.

1208
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:21,800
And I love this piece.

1209
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,280
It's funny just to share a little bit

1210
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,960
of a personal journey before I land the plane

1211
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,480
is the refinement piece was one that came to me.

1212
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,640
And I feel like the Lord blessed me to see all of the Rs.

1213
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:39,040
But here recently, I felt an even more refinement on myself.

1214
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,640
And I feel like there's this beauty of as leaders

1215
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,240
and as visionaries, and I'll land the plane here

1216
00:48:44,240 --> 00:48:45,760
is we go first.

1217
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,280
And I love how you shared personally your story

1218
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:49,360
and your journey.

1219
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:52,720
And it's out of us choosing to go first

1220
00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:55,080
in our vulnerability and our authenticity.

1221
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,520
That's what's gonna show those that we lead

1222
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:59,880
that it's okay to not put on a front

1223
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:03,720
and put on this facade of, oh, I have to be this or that.

1224
00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:08,720
And when we're able to come to what we do fully ourselves,

1225
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,840
then we're able to truly live out

1226
00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:15,840
with full fulfillment and purpose.

1227
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,920
And I'm really encouraged by what I feel like

1228
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,600
you were going, you listeners, you watchers at home

1229
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,120
are gonna get from this book.

1230
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,560
And this book is also based on my coaching.

1231
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,880
So again, if you're wanting something more

1232
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,040
than just a book, because it's like Jackson said,

1233
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,280
not everybody's routes are gonna look the same.

1234
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,160
Some people can read a book and catch everything they need.

1235
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:38,120
And that's amazing.

1236
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:39,080
And that's awesome.

1237
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,200
Some people need a little bit more personalized,

1238
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:42,520
tailor-made approach.

1239
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,440
And that's why I'm offering these one-on-one coaching

1240
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,760
programs, this one-on-one coaching program

1241
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,960
so that we can really sit down and I can hold that space

1242
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,200
for you to really walk through each of these five R's

1243
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,480
and really discover who you're created to be.

1244
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,160
But not only just keep it in concept,

1245
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:00,600
but then take radical action.

1246
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:02,320
Because it's the both ends.

1247
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,480
Because if there was a six R, it would be results.

1248
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:09,520
But the results don't come until you do all those other things

1249
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,680
don't happen until, the results don't happen until you do that.

1250
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,640
But I'll close with that is, again,

1251
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:18,720
what an honor it was to be on your podcast

1252
00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:20,560
and what you're doing here.

1253
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,680
And I'd be more than happy to come back sometime.

1254
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,480
Love it. Guys, if you didn't catch it, didn't hear it,

1255
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:29,520
you just give every single second that he possibly could

1256
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,360
to us from his heart, his soul, his mind.

1257
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,720
And as those results come to us, it

1258
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:39,360
will allow us to release, restore,

1259
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,800
resurrect better leaders.

1260
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:42,760
Excellent job, Red.

1261
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:44,560
Vision Pros we'll see you on the next episode.

1262
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:45,240
Take care, everybody.

1263
00:50:45,240 --> 00:50:46,720
Thank you for being here today.

1264
00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:49,120
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

1265
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,760
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

1266
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,960
as these episodes continue to move forward.

1267
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,720
This is going to get more and more fun.

1268
00:50:55,720 --> 00:50:57,560
We'll have more and more engagement as well.

1269
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,680
We'll invite people to participate in the show.

1270
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,040
And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

1271
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,760
Have an excellent time building out your vision

1272
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:22,360
and becoming a leader.