I'm going to dive pretty fast into the first topic,
because I want to maximize the time we do have for this.
So Mukesh, if those entrepreneurs who are listening
in right now, visionary leaders, business owners,
you could be a visionary in any space.
It could be a parent who wants to be the best parent
in the world.
We're not here to box visionaries into one category,
but you've accomplished a lot.
You got a lot of followers.
You're helping 15,100 people achieve financial freedom.
You got vetted by Barbara Ann Gardner and Hiram Mills
of Purpose Driven Solutions and Evolutions.
And she's somebody who I know does her work
in terms of making sure people are a good fit.
And you come in as a super nice, awesome guy
who's ready to just like go with the flow,
hit me with the best punches, Jackson, et cetera.
So I got to ask, what are three resources
that have helped you get to where you are as a leader?
I would definitely like to thank Stephen Covey's
Seven Habits book.
That's a very, very first one.
I learned a ton from him.
And I've referenced him in my books at many places.
That's number one.
Number two, I would love to share Gary Chapman's
Five Love Languages.
Ooh, yes.
Beauty. Both of those.
Yes.
I don't ever hear that one on this show though.
And so I'm glad you said it.
Yeah, it's beautiful.
And third book, I would, even if I am allowed,
I will put third mine, Seven Steps to Fulfill Life.
If only I can choose three,
otherwise there's a long list I can share.
I love that.
I love the, so Seven Steps.
To a Fulfilled Life.
All right.
That's the, I'm really happy about that
because I do find it curious how many leaders
have assets like that that they've created
and they try to play with humility so much
that they don't talk about their own resources.
But it's like, if you put your soul into this,
you know what I mean?
Like if you've compiled all the things that you've learned
in order to create a resource that you feel
is that important, then say it.
It's not humility.
Like just say it, dude.
Give us a value.
You gotta have that confidence.
So thank you for sharing that.
Those first two are world-class resources
that I'm very, very familiar with.
Your book is something that I'm not quite familiar with yet.
So talk to me about what's different about it.
What's it gonna add to our lives?
See, it's launching on 6th of November,
so it's not out there, but I'll...
Next week.
How about I share a personal story a little bit
that how this book came out?
Are you okay with that?
Of course.
So see, I was born in a very small town in India,
and my dad was a franchisee
of a very successful logistics company.
And so the things were good, money was good,
but one day this franchise or brothers,
they had a conflict within their home,
and they decided to shut down the business,
which meant my family, my father wouldn't have a business.
So, but then he started looking some other businesses,
he couldn't find anything
which was a kind of very similar type of business.
So my uncle, one of my uncle then proposed
to start their own logistics company,
and that's what they did.
However, they didn't realize that this new business
of that scale, it had more overheads than the previous one.
It had kind of a,
the mindset, the skillset,
and the capital required to run this kind of business
was different than what they were working as a franchisee.
So the franchisee versus franchisee, it was different.
And that, you know, my dad used to be behind
paying wages some months, he was stuck,
he couldn't see the path forward.
And this is the stuck, I'm using this word stuck.
And my mom, so that pushed my mom into a mindset
of scarcity and anxiety, which was a reflection
of the environment how she was brought up
with her seven sisters in a home.
And at that time I couldn't do much help
because I was also working as a very lost young man.
So then one of my friend encouraged me to come to Australia
and I came to Australia again,
and then worked and studied master's in accounting.
And after completing my master's in CP,
I started my own accounting company.
And I was successfully looking after the clients,
but I was still unfulfilled.
I was, you know, for some months I will sign a few clients,
I'll start looking after them,
then I'll feel like, oh, I'm missing something.
And this is very similar to my young years
that I've been stuck, lost, jealous, anxious, not present.
And I was feeling the same now,
even after having a good business for six years,
then I stopped for a moment, took a pause.
And I reflected on what I've been going
through those motions, I invited two of my team members
into a conference room.
And we talked from on the whiteboard from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.,
Monday to Saturday, three months in a row,
who we are, what we're doing, why we're here.
And that was the kind of the most intense process
that I'd never been to.
And that gave us the first stage is,
that gave us the value system.
We came out from that room with our core values,
happiness, freedom, and win-win.
And that's what it is.
Interesting, so you guys,
let me make sure I understood that correctly.
You did Monday through Friday, 7 a.m. to 7 p.m.,
for three months straight.
Three months straight.
Incubating on your life purpose.
That's it.
That's awesome.
That was beautiful.
That's really cool.
And that was 2017.
And I was, then we came out of that room.
And see, this happened in stages.
I couldn't say, oh, that was, yeah, that was great feeling
because we didn't know that there was further more to do.
And then, now I came out, I'm very happy.
We know that, okay, now we know that.
Now we understand what to do.
And we have our own values.
Now we can make our decisions based on our values.
And that's what we started doing.
Love it.
And then, by reading, listening,
now I at least knew what to read, what to listen.
I found this word, serving.
And that was a aha moment.
That got me out of my miserable, empty life,
this word serving.
And I kept asking myself that, what does that mean to me?
How does that relate to me?
And then I found that my purpose, my fulfillment lies in
helping other people get fulfilled, getting them unstuck,
helping them with the path that so that they can be present,
helping them with get the abundance mindset,
not be jealous and mean like I used to be.
And I found it.
And that was a aha moment.
Now I know what to do.
I've got my values.
I've got my purpose.
And I'm still stuck.
Okay, how do I achieve that now?
What do I do?
I started reading again.
There's so many leadership books, this and that.
And then I really needed some place, one framework
where I could put everything in there.
As you start, you know, as you mentioned in the very start
that there are people who pretend and there's so much there.
You and I acknowledge that.
And I felt this.
I felt this.
Then I came up with this, you know,
this is my value system that I started in 2017,
transformed into the seven step fulfillment system,
which changed me from feeling like a headless chicken
to a fulfilled human being.
Now I am complete.
With this system, it helps me every day.
It helps me to bring every learning out there
and all the now point of views, all lessons, all teachings,
can coexist in harmony within this system.
Now I am not someone who is not present.
Now I am with clear purpose.
And I want to share this beautiful system that helps me
on a daily basis, that so that people out there
who feel like stuck and lost like I used to,
they could live a fulfilled life.
It's a universal system,
which you can use any time in any situation,
whether it's a personal business, career, relationship,
family, family, family, family,
family, whatever.
It will provide you the solution,
which is aligned with you, who you want to be, who you are.
It is the answer to all your life's questions.
I'll add one caveat.
Yeah.
I will add one big caveat listeners.
It can, or it could.
I don't agree with the will aspect
because you have your own free will.
You get to choose what you do with what's told.
I can lead a horse to water, but I can't make a drink.
We can't force you to have success.
We can't force you to leave your challenges behind.
We don't have that power.
Mukesh and I don't have that.
And it is mathematicians, if you will,
two mathematicians on a chalkboard, right?
Writing and building formulas.
They're willing to look at each other's chalkboards
and share.
They might end up with a better math formula together as is.
So this is something that I love your path.
I love what you've done.
I love where you're headed with it.
I love your heart and your intent.
I love the process that you have.
I'm excited to see more of it
because what you're doing overlaps so well
with what we are doing and how we're building things.
And we need, I need more mathematicians around me
in order to unlock the best of the best formulas
that exist out there for the audience at hand.
You said you spent three months in incubation, right?
7 a.m. to 7 p.m.
What's really fun is I spent two years in Uruguay
and I was in incubation for two years.
And it was Monday through Sunday, 6 a.m. until 10 p.m.
And that process also led by a lot of resources
that Stephen Covey himself created.
So it led to a lot of eye-opening discoveries.
And the point with that is it's not my two years listeners
versus Mukesh's three months.
Some people look at life that way.
That's not the abundant mindset.
That's the scarcity, scared, inferior.
We're all in survival instinct.
Let's attack each other.
No, no, no.
Add my two years.
Add Mukesh's three months.
Add your own life and recognize that no one else
doesn't know he didn't just live for three months.
He's got a whole life of background of experience
immigrating from one country to another,
understand exploring cultural differences that exist.
There's so much value that we can unpack.
And my hope is that you take whatever steps
out of what Mukesh shares
and whatever steps out of what I share
throughout this experience
and you meditate on what's most important for you.
What's gonna help you get to that next level.
We're gonna do our best to unlock that
as we keep going through this.
We're gonna take a short break,
a little commercial break for me to get some water.
We're gonna come back
and we're gonna talk about Mukesh's vision at large
and how we can help each of you
achieve more financial freedom
and a fulfilled life for yourself
so that you can also show up in your life happy,
at peace, with joy,
and this feelings that allow us to amplify
every moment of our day and be present.
That's what we want.
We want you to have,
I wanna be present.
Mukesh, thank you for being present with me on this.
We'll be right back and we'll dive in.
All right, welcome in to Vision Pros Live.
With Jackson Callum, I'm your show host.
We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs
and guest leaders who are building
fantastic visions out there.
And welcome in to another episode of Vision Pros Live.
I'm your show host, Jackson Callum,
founder and CEO of First Class Business.
And I am super excited to have Mukesh Bajaj
on stage with me today.
This is a man who has dedicated his life
as of 2017 to understanding fulfillment
and a purpose-driven life.
That doesn't mean that he didn't have essence of that
before that time period,
but there are people in this life who,
they get a great career built out.
They move forward and later in life figure out,
you know what, I don't feel that alignment with purpose.
Well, he's that guy.
That's the one that you should be listening to
in relation to how do you get out of being stuck
in a scenario where you haven't found purpose yet in life.
In my case, I've been studying purpose since I was a child.
I had a dad who left at a very young age.
My mom was constantly guiding me towards new opportunities
and new ways of looking at things.
And when I was nine years old, I became an uncle
and I started to look at life and say, what's a dad?
I wanna be a dad.
I wanna figure this out.
And so self-awareness kicked in pretty young
through the divorce process, through that,
and made me really start to look at and see
and ask dads everywhere, like, what do you do?
Do you like working at the bank?
Do you like this or that?
And I saw a lot of adults early on teaching me,
don't take the path that they had taken.
And it led me to look at life from a perspective of,
you know what, I'm not going to focus my life
on the money and the wealth and the riches
and the definitions the world wants.
I've very much lived my life in alignment with striving
to make sure I maximize my purpose.
And so we have two very different paths in this process.
And my hope is that all of you who are listening in
may find some goodness from both of our stories
that can uplift your alignment with your purpose.
I still seek that every single day myself.
I'm a student of life, just like all of you are.
We're all here to learn together.
Before we bring Mukesh back on board,
some of the, there are certain entities
that have really aligned well with us
and that helped me do just that.
One of them is Dave Morrow
at the hardtokill.org organization.
Hard to Kill is designed to help 100,000 veterans
lose 2 million pounds collectively.
And Dave has been one of my favorite leaders to work with
over the last several years.
He's opened his community up from just a support
for veterans to civilians like myself as well.
Come and join us for free in the Hard to Kill community.
Get your work out on.
It's time to look good, feel good and do good.
And I definitely recommend checking out his podcast as well.
He's often bringing on great leaders
and one more fun research regarding him.
Look up Dave Morrow and the word Afghanistan
and learn about some of the work he did to help people
in that zone and create peace.
New York Times wrote an article about him.
Then there's the next sponsor
that would be Oportunidades de Trabajo para Latinos.
Opportunities for work for Latinos has launched,
Filipinos has launched and for Indians has also launched.
We've got some great leaders
who are helping us with this initiative.
What we do is we provide free job training
and free career coaching for people in those countries
so they can learn to become excellent virtual assistants
as most of the world calls them.
We call it digital ambassadors.
We're training people in order to understand
how to find jobs and find clients for us as well,
leaders who would be great fits for our podcasts.
And the Latino team is a little bit far ahead right now.
They've got their own podcasts associated with it.
If you're a Latino leader, apply to be on that show.
Come and inspire other Latinos.
We've got billions of people to help in this world.
And one of the ways we're gonna do that is giving back
and giving opportunities, helping people catch the vision
for hope that, oh, you know what?
I didn't know I could get hired online.
Most of them have no idea.
They think they have to be certified in advance.
They think they have to have certain skillsets in advance.
They don't, they just need some help
knowing that there are opportunities
and we wanna provide that to them.
So come and join us on that.
Then there's the water project.
We're not associated with the water project
but the water project caught my attention.
It caught my heart, started to meditate on it.
I've never been thirsty in my life, not truly thirsty.
And I found out that millions of people
don't even have access to clean drinking water.
And when that came across my radar,
I decided to start thinking about this project more often.
I also decided to donate to it and realize that they will,
when you donate to one of the water projects,
you get to see that project come to fruition.
They send you the evidence of where your money went.
And I love that transparency about what they do.
Look at these next pictures.
You're gonna see kids that celebrate water
the way my kids celebrate Christmas day
as a very humbling reality.
Again, we've got so much to do together.
You may not be in a financial position
to give back right now.
And if that's the case,
my hope is that you start talking about this
with friends and family,
bring it up in conversations, inspire others to get involved.
You never know how much somebody else may give
just by you talking about these subjects.
And if there's another cause
that you'd rather see as support,
then please drop the causes that you support in the comments
so we can all get engaged and help each other again.
We got 8 billion people to help.
And my hope is that we all pull together to do just that.
So without further ado,
we're gonna get some help ourselves right now
welcoming Mukesh back to the stage.
Mukesh, thanks so much for joining me
on Vision Pros Live, my friend.
Thank you for having me.
I'm very grateful and excited.
Thank you.
Absolutely.
To dive right in,
what's your vision for the people that you serve?
For people I wanna serve
so that they could live a fulfilled life
and create a financial freedom for themselves
and for their loved ones.
If I start from what the fulfillment and fulfilled life,
those seven steps that everyone is feeling grateful,
that's the step one.
Yeah.
What is a fulfilled life?
Help me out with that first.
What would you define as a fulfilled life?
For me, fulfilled life is that
practicing my values,
which is happiness, freedom, win-win,
and having a purpose which is bigger than me,
that actively work with 15 people
and work with 15,100 people.
This is really cool that you're bringing these up
because we are big on vision first.
Obviously, the show indicates that.
Once we have a clear vision,
then we build a great culture.
And for us, vision and culture
aligns around values and purpose.
Those are two of the keys for our 12-step guide
for how to recognize market leaders
and ones that we might wanna work with.
And the vision and the culture leads to,
for us, attracting great leaders
to want us to help build upon.
But you're right.
Your recipe, your ingredients are right.
They're exactly what we stand for
and what we build towards.
Our values are love, patience, persistence,
consistency, and reliability.
The love is the cheat code for me, man,
because love encompasses all virtues.
And so we can't deny or reject any virtue
if we're truly loving.
But you mentioned three earlier,
and I wanna bring those back up again.
One of them I think I heard was family,
I think one was happiness.
But can you remind me what were the three?
Happiness, freedom, and win-win.
Ha, happiness, freedom, and win-win.
Very good.
So, Trico, what I've done is I've categorized
my values into two categories.
So this is my end values, which is happiness,
freedom, and win-win.
And then my main values to what I practice
to get there is resourceful,
and integrity,
and innovation,
and then excellence.
So these are my four values which I practice
to get to this, this is the outcome that I get,
happiness, freedom, and win-win,
when I practice these four.
That's all, and you can't have the outcome
if you don't have the, you can't have the output, right,
if you don't have the input for it.
So, and you also mentioned serving in there,
that's probably why.
And I just, I gravitate towards family
on just like a natural instinct almost.
So thank you for helping me see that more clearly.
Love that.
Please continue.
So those people that are grateful, that everyone,
that my vision is for everyone to live a fulfilled life
and create a financial feeder for them.
However, I've chosen 15,100 people
that I want to work actively,
and I dissect the number as well that
if I coach 100 people,
and those 100 can look after their 100,
so these are 10,000 people.
Now we include the people in our life circle,
which is you mentioned that family, friends,
community, spouse, kids, parents, especially,
that we forget otherwise in our life.
So that's when we include,
that gives me 15,100 people.
And I'm saying 15,000 is an obligation for me alone.
And then similarly, if everyone finds their own 15,100,
we will start a ripple effect.
Right.
So these are the people that I can actively be for them.
When they give me a phone call,
I can call them back if I'm not at the phone at that time.
But these 15,100, I commit myself personally.
Similarly, the people then they commit their own community.
Yeah.
So that's what it starts.
So that's first thing is be grateful for those people.
Second step is now is aligning our,
and there are 10 elements in our fulfillment visa.
So activities, behavior, habits, beliefs,
goals, values, character, purpose, principles, environment.
So these 10 elements, when they are aligned,
then you create a fulfilled life.
When you have a goal, when you have a purpose,
and you have activities and habits aligned to that.
For example, now my purpose in life is to help people
achieve financial freedom and a fulfilled life.
So one of my activities is to help people
to realize that what my activity is
then beyond conversation with you.
Share this knowledge and framework with people,
with community, answer their question.
This is the activity.
My habits, how do I practice this?
The thing I'm talking about, those timeless principles.
And when I make habit of those values, practices,
my habits are aligned with the bigger purpose.
So this is step two, that I want everyone
to align their own activities with their own purpose.
Someone want to be a singer.
So then writing music, listening to music, creating music,
that will be the activity which they need to align
to become the best singer.
If someone want to create a restaurant business,
hospitality business, so serving, creating the dishes,
those things will be the activities aligned
to their hospitality business as a purpose.
As a parent, being with the kids is the activity,
not obligation, not like a forced thing.
If you are a parent, so activities aligned to.
So that's step two.
Step three is knowing your win.
Now in this framework, in this step,
I share a 30 cells framework, which is holistic,
but you asked me what fulfillment means,
is when you understand these 30 cells,
then you have answers to those questions that,
which is I break down them into six elements
that all the needs, like again,
this is my way of breaking them down.
You can break it down in 50 or 5,000, your choice,
but I've broken down into 30 and I share how the six needs,
look at the first one is a brand.
Second is money, third is time, fourth is skill,
fifth is health, sixth is experience.
So these are the six core needs, what my core needs are.
Brand at the very top, as I have put them in hierarchy,
you can change it, you can mix and match.
For me, brand, money, time, skill, have an experience.
Your brand is not just a logo.
Brand is about what I stand for,
what my values and purpose is,
and that dictates everything in my life.
And now, I've got five life circles that I share in this.
So me as first life circle, then my family,
now third one is the business, employment,
career life circle, the people in those circles.
Fourth one is the community, extended families.
And fifth one is the spiritual,
non-spiritual connection life circle.
So when you see now six rows, five columns, 30 cells,
or you can relate cells if you are a person with,
from biology, it's like a cells in the body.
Yeah.
Or if you are a number person,
then it's a cells like a Excel sheet,
you've got 30 cells, right?
And knowing the answers to those questions,
that what do I want?
How much money do I need for myself,
for my family, for my community?
Where do I wanna spend my next 168 hours of a week?
Then I have those answers.
That is that I know where does my fulfillment lie.
One of the things I love about all that you're revealing
is that you're not presenting something that sounds,
feels, or acts like a Get Rich Quick program.
And that's something that I wanna honor
about all that you're sharing.
I mean, you've pretty much unleashed a fire hose
or a fire hydrant on us, which is a good thing.
I'm like, okay, there's more depth that I've gotta dive into
if I'm gonna really get this.
All these systems and how they connect,
you have a lot of clarity for you on what that looks like.
And it's kinda like the book, Atomic Habits, right?
Or the book of Radical Candor.
There are certain charts that people have to be willing
to dedicate themselves to,
to understand how to unlock that depth for themselves.
So we as listeners, we have to be willing to do our part
to gain this type of a value, to find our purpose,
to find our fulfillment,
to unlock financial freedom for ourselves
if we're going to go about this.
And I would tie it to,
if we're gonna go about this in a holistic way.
Are there other ways to gain wealth?
There are, absolutely.
There are lots of powers that can help you do that.
Some of them are good, some of them are bad,
and some of them are nasty.
It very much depends on,
do you appreciate the journey of the process?
Or are you just looking for a certain destination?
This is a show very much about journey.
So realize you're gonna have to pick up some of these pieces
if you wanna use them.
And of course you can reach out to Mukesh,
you can reach out to me to help with that process.
Let's take a quick pivot though, Mukesh.
We're gonna dive into a few of the core questions
that I'm sure you've passed along your way.
What is the worst leadership experience
that you've ever had?
See, before finding seven-step fulfillment system,
I can count there was many bad leadership experience.
Even my own, when I've been leader,
I'm doing the bad things, bad habits.
And I'll pick one that I really wanna share today
that what was the bad experience I did.
So this is my cousin and my team member, my staff.
And my office was in India, in Delhi,
and my hometown was from 200K, far away from Delhi.
So this my cousin sister, she was from my hometown.
And I had some kind of a, you can say financial challenge,
I was stuck.
And so then I thought to myself that it would be good idea
that my cousin sister, if she was working for someone else
in my hometown, because it would be easy for her.
And because knowing that she was the only child
to look after her parents.
And somehow I made that assumption.
And I talked to one of my friend company in my hometown
and arranged her job there without asking her.
Now I was thinking that I was doing the right thing
because I was thinking that I'm just giving her
an opportunity and it was hometown, she'd be happy.
But I didn't ask her.
And then I realized that I should have asked her when,
that leads to that step four.
I needed to ask what does she want?
With curiosity and empathy, rather than assuming
that I'm doing the right thing for her.
And I apologize even with a slight audience to her
that I should have asked you.
Now I understand that because now I have the system
which tells me that I should have asked you.
And I'm sorry for that I didn't ask.
So that was the experience I remember that,
which I now know that the system will alert me
that I should have asked before I am making decision
on their behalf.
Absolutely, it's helpful to have boundaries.
Fantastic book, Boundaries of Marriage.
And there's other boundaries,
boundaries in the workplace, et cetera.
They got a whole series on the process.
It's very helpful to be aware of those.
What about on the best side?
What's your best leadership experience ever?
Okay, I'll share another personal story here that,
that's the best one.
I wouldn't pick up that work one.
I will pick up it again.
So this was a, okay, now I've found seven SFS.
So this is best experience, I'll share that.
This is a COVID-19 time and I'm building our dream home.
And during that COVID-19 as we know that supply your products
and materials not happening.
Some suppliers left, some contractors left,
half finished jobs, unmet deadlines.
A few went under called bankrupt.
And I've given them, you know, the,
given them some advance, they have given the quotations.
They're not working with us now.
And I had to then become project coordinator
to support the builder because he was also getting,
you know, kind of a very low because of the whole situation.
Prices increased.
Prices increased, existing contractors, you know,
asked for the, you know, to revise the price to double even
in some instances, right?
But I was still able to be calm,
be grateful, even in that chaos.
And that's what I will, I will see that that was a power
of not mind, I've never been that person.
This system helped me that be grateful.
And then what happens is my dad passed away.
In the last month of when I was getting the keys,
my dad passed away, he's in India.
And we didn't know it was, it happened suddenly.
Even that time, I think I can still be the person
I want to be.
And that's what I would say that this is the best experience
in my life that even I can, you know,
I'm very happy that it happened, how it happened.
I hear you, my condolences on your father passing away
and congratulations on having that centeredness and peace,
you know, to recognize the, I guess the presence of peace,
joy, right, fulfillment, being able to carry that
through a difficult experience isn't something
that most people are capable of doing.
And whether, you know, for those of you listening in,
you know, if any of you have lost relatives recently
or even today are getting the news, you know,
there's still a value to the grief process, right?
It doesn't mean you have to be happy
the moment something happens,
but we're talking about the deeper level
of putting yourself in a position to where
you've got the emotional, physical, mental capacity
to process those experiences and to know how
those experiences relate to your purpose.
I remember losing my grandpa while I was on my mission
in Uruguay and, you know, it was two months
before I got home.
So I almost got to come home and see him
and I was so looking forward to telling him
about my experiences.
And so that night, you know, I got the news
and I went out into a private garden and prayed.
And that led to, I mean, the only word
that I think is appropriate for it is a revelation
of just what it meant for my family
and what things were occurring within my family
at that time where it was necessary
for him to go home to God.
And so those types of experiences, they still hurt.
You know, we still feel it.
We still have grieving to do.
And are you diving into resources
that are helping you in your life, again, process,
appreciate, be able to stay centered around gratitude
and maximize the days that you do have
and the time that you have.
So thank you for sharing that
because that is a deep subject
that not many people have dove into on the show.
And I can always use the benefit
of thinking through that process in my own life
for the many family members I have
and all of us as entrepreneurs, as visionaries rather.
If we have multiple people in our lives,
there are multiple chances of disruption
for the flow of what it is that we want to accomplish.
And so thank you for sharing that Mukesh.
If this is your last chance ever
to share a powerful lesson with the world,
what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn
from your experience?
I would say that I would acknowledge my flaws,
that this is my first book I'm writing
and there will be imperfections.
I'm not a seasoned podcaster.
So you would find a lot of flaws,
how I answer the question, how I share my story.
But I will tell that this system is complete.
It gives me the energy and resilience.
This gives me the courage to be here with you today
and share this message.
The system helps me with my imposter syndrome.
It gives me the courage to not wait 10 more years
before I could polish myself and all my sentences
and grammars and everything.
I wanna say just, it's important for me
that I share it with you now
when I'm having these challenges,
when I'm on the journey right now with you.
And saying that if this system helps me, just give it a go.
You may find your own fulfillment.
So that's what I wanna share, just give it a go.
Just give it a go.
I love that.
And I love the way that you humbly approach
the reality of where you're at.
You've been able to accomplish a lot.
You have a lot to look forward to.
I appreciate you acknowledging the journey we have too.
That's one of those areas
that a lot of people who listen to this show,
they're the quiet ones.
They're not the ones who comment.
They're the ones who are a little bit scared
to get involved publicly about things
because they don't wanna mess up.
They're worried that they're gonna get it wrong.
They're worried that they'll be called out.
They're worried that there will be a backlash.
That imposter syndrome you talked about too.
It's something that we all face and have to go through.
And one of the things that kinda comes to mind
as you move on your journey,
do I have permission to play with you
in relation to some of the opportunities
that you have for growth as a podcaster?
And I'll only do that if you can feel the love
and me sharing with you some of the things
that I picked up on today
that will one, help the audience and help you.
And why do I wanna do that?
Because I believe in your vision.
Because I see the virtues and the values
and what you're doing.
You're all in?
Yep.
Okay.
There's a quote that comes to mind.
And I know some of you listening are gonna be like,
dude, you just roasted Mukesh.
And no, I'm not.
That's one way to look at it.
The quote is, when we start selling a hammer,
everything starts to look like a nail.
Have you ever heard that before?
Yeah, I've heard that before, yeah.
I think that one of the challenges you'll face
as a podcast guest is that if you reference your book,
every single time somebody asks you a question
or wants you to dive into a natural present path,
it can feel like you are that person
trying to sell the hammer at every chance you get.
And it's not a fair reality or perspective
because obviously it's done a lot for you.
But the more naturally you begin to unlock
the path that the book provides
versus the mechanics of the book,
the more likely people will not label you
as a leader who's just constantly referencing this book.
In a world where a lot of people are just promoting
their books to make money, to get on stage,
to have a reason for being present,
I would hate to see you get caught up in that
the level of leadership,
because if we were to put A to F grades on it,
those types of leaders never are the A players.
The A players are the ones who are able to extract
and produce and pronounce their value to the world
and the resources that exist behind it,
they're still there, they're still accessible,
but they have this gift for portraying in a way
that doesn't come across as mechanical.
I'm still learning that.
I'm not an A player at this stage.
Is that a fair statement?
Can I share my?
Of course you can.
So first of all, I thank you for your feedback.
I totally love your feedback.
Only I wanna share that I'm not here selling anything.
This is my opportunity to share this something
that helps me every day.
Whether you buy something from me, it's okay.
I wanna just share at every moment, every step,
because if I die tomorrow,
at least I'll be dying fulfilled
that I was sharing this message with everyone
because it helps me every day.
And I, unless, as also I've heard this quote
that as a business, as a leaders, we have to repeat ourselves
it's only one sister.
And I will repeat this my whole life.
And how many times I know millions of times.
And our goal is to refine that.
That's our goal, you and me as leaders.
How do we refine it to where we can optimize it
to the point where the sphere of influence expands.
Much like somebody who's been through Alcoholics Anonymous
and they might rave and get excited about it
and tell people about it,
but their level of influence isn't going to expand
until they learn to share that in a more productive way.
And attract leaders who can put them on bigger stages as well.
So we're still in.
And so here's one of the other truths
that I love about this Mukesh.
You represent the majority of visionaries out there.
You relate to them.
You are the individual that,
and I think I am too in that regard.
It's like Jackson's, I've been on Ted talks.
I'm not hanging out with Tony Robbin every day.
I'm not Mark Cuban's best friend.
I've got a long way to go on my journey.
And so there's a certain, again, most people out there,
I think everybody's a visionary.
I think everybody's a leader.
And some of them haven't given themselves permission
to do this yet.
So a lot of them will see or hear a podcast like this
and be like, oh, maybe I can do that.
Maybe I too can move forward and make this happen.
And again, while we relate now,
our audience is going to benefit tremendously
from seeing you go to the next level,
go to the next level, go to the next level,
go to the next level and beyond.
And your willingness to share vulnerably too,
that I couldn't have had this conversation
with you right now,
had you not been willing to acknowledge
your vulnerable reality that you are human
and that you're new to the podcasting world.
My friends, we have 2,100 episodes.
I am new to podcasting myself.
Right, let's put that in full perspective.
I'm not Johnny Dumas of Entrepreneur on Fire.
I'm not Lewis Howes of School of Greatness.
I have to work behind the scenes with their stuff.
I get to watch Jimmy Kimmel and I go, oh my gosh,
I have so far to go.
To really get to those next levels.
But that doesn't take away from our value
and the value of what we can provide in the here and now.
It is once again, the opportunity for the rest of you
out there to be inspired and say,
maybe I have something that I can give in the here and now
and I don't have to wait to do it later
as Mukesh talked about.
Of course you can speak Mukesh, you're up brother.
So what I wanted to also share here is again,
my point of view, I'm just saying my point of view.
A lot of milestones, milestones for me
who is only to provide the direction and the journey.
And when I say I'm really fulfilled now,
if I get to the next level, I'm happy.
But this is a level I wanna be right now.
And for the people who are like not wanna be a big
or bigger goals or celebrities, it's okay.
It's okay to be who you are and pick up a small goal
and live a very good life.
Just be with your little goals
and enjoy those little goals and activities achieving that.
And I wanna be just like that with people
who wanna just pick up and just any goal.
The thing I challenge on that though, visionaries is again,
it's not Mukesh's job or mine to define yours.
Just like it's not mine to define Mukesh's.
And that's something I really stand for
as a leader of vision pros is I don't like,
that's fine if you're, but you have what you have
and it's fantastic, but don't project on my audience
what they should do.
I don't do that to my audience either.
They deserve that respect and freedom
to be able to dream that without those limitations
placed upon them by somebody else
and or somebody projecting they have to go a certain way.
We as people, we have the opportunity to step into our own.
And so my reality related to that,
that most, I don't see a lot of books talk about,
but Feelings Buried Alive, Never Die
talks about it really well.
And you can't teach a kid to ride a bike at a seminar
allude to this really well.
And that is that we're, my belief is we are perfect
in our existing state.
And that my soul should honor y'all souls,
everybody that's out there, including Mukesh, of course,
and change is also perfect.
And so I have a new opportunity every day
to be my best self.
And if I am my best self, well, I already know
that the trajectory means I'm rising
and that that's a natural byproduct of showing up each day.
So it's not a matter of worrying about it,
forcing it, living for it.
I live in my moment too.
And so our goal for you, my goal for you guys,
and I believe Mukesh is on this too,
we simply want to give, right?
We want to give as much as we can.
And if there are financial transactions
that occur as a byproduct of that, that's okay.
That is a natural byproduct of showing up
and producing results in this world.
I won't downplay it.
I won't say it's not there.
I won't say it doesn't exist.
I won't even say I don't want it
because that would be inauthentic and untrue for me.
If I didn't want it, I would give my book away for free,
100%.
So knowing how to, again, articulate these things,
there's different stages and levels.
Mukesh and I will both be arriving at
as the five or 10 years likely goes by.
So I really appreciate your friendship.
I really appreciate the time that you took on the show.
I know we're just going overboard here on time.
How are you doing on time, Mukesh?
Because I don't want to rush off,
but I also don't want to hold you hostage.
No, I'm fine.
You take your time.
I'm happy.
I'm happy to answer any questions you have.
I do have a meeting coming up,
but Vision Pro, I want to make sure
we wrap this up the right way.
So number one, the action steps.
By the way, I want everybody to know this.
If I didn't like Mukesh
and I didn't like his philosophies or what he's doing,
I would delete this episode.
I would bury the landing page.
I would not put action steps associated with the show.
That is not the case at all.
I love the formulas that he's up to.
And I look forward to being two mathematicians
getting to know each other's formulas
for years to come and saying, oh, cool.
He's got that little puzzle piece
that I was missing on my side.
And my resources, Mukesh, will always be open to you
as well if you see fit and see them as being beneficial.
I see a huge collaboration opportunity
between seven steps, fulfillment and passion pro.
Go ahead.
I remember that one story.
This is one of the Bollywood star,
very, very top Bollywood star.
He shared in one of the interview that
his son doesn't listen to his advice.
And even everyone goes to the star's advice for acting.
And then I learned that it's the same message
that we all share in different stories, different words,
same timeless principle.
And it can happen that even my own son may not listen to me
and he may listen to you.
And therefore it is important that it's not about
who we are listening to.
It's about the right message.
Stephen Covey said the same thing.
Also following him that when he said that
he didn't design those seven habits,
same way I didn't design these principles.
Principles being there, it's my way of just putting together
which helps me.
And if my son listens to you and gets that message
and follow that message, love it.
And this is how I see that's why we need so many people
sharing the message in their own words, own stories,
so that someone will pick up something out of it
in their own time.
Champion level advice and principle and perspective.
I absolutely love it.
Again, that's why we're ultra grateful
to have you on the show.
And below the action steps, my friends,
we'll have the resources that we talked about
from Stephen Covey to Gary Chapman and beyond.
We'll have each of those down in that section,
including the book that Mukesh is launching right now,
Seven Steps to a Fulfilled Life.
And we have one more call to action
in the top right corner.
If you've got a vision, you wanna come on
and share it in the show, click the button
that says, be our guest, apply to be on the show.
And we'd love to hear your holistic vision
about how you're helping people out there as well.
Come and debate me if you want to.
Come and uplift our message.
Come and share whatever it is that you're up to.
We can't, I don't think we can spread too much light
in this world.
I think we got more light to share,
more love to share with the world.
And we will, I can't do that alone.
I need each of you visionaries
to come and help me do just that.
So Mukesh, thanks for being here today.
And Vision Pros, we'll see you guys on the next episode.
Thank you for being here today.
I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.
I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions
as these episodes continue to move forward.
This is gonna get more and more fun.
We'll have more and more engagement as well.
We'll invite people to participate in the show.
And thank you for giving us your time and attention.
Have an excellent time building out your vision
and becoming a vision.