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his response to it because he said look I mean all do you know anybody with a statue

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yet the conversation about it doesn't look like him and that is the problem because now

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you already have a statue of him and you're like oh my god I'm going to be like oh my

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god I'm going to be like oh my god I'm going to be like oh my god I'm going to be like

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the conversation doesn't look like him and that is the problem because now you already

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got it because that's the problem instead of actually celebrating my guy for a statue

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we're seeing means all the statue doesn't look exactly like a man if you go back and

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it's funny that you that you brought this up because you know what he just said in his

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press conference responding to these memes as he goes you know there were people artists

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in Miami people that worked very hard on that that he felt a little more bad for in terms

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of now their name is associated with and that's all that is just hate like who knows anybody

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with a statue but now it's oh it doesn't look like visionaries this applies to every single one of

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you yes you know as one right who's an expert in developing highly motivated teams and so here

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comes Dwayne Wade and we could look at it just as a basketball and a fun experience but no this man

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saw his team being attacked by the public and instead of firing them or instead of saying you

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know you guys really screwed this up and made me look bad right he came to his defense the defense

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of the team in a way that also didn't hurt people he was so loving about this process I mean you

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there's so much value in terms of business that we can learn from the sports world and that's why

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I want to add the opportunity to work with you I was like oh my gosh like a an athlete somebody who

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gets teamwork and organizations so hit it all right keep keep on that van if you want to because

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it was I thought it was really funny that they said because the first time like at first I was

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too was like how'd they mess my my guy up you know I was like I can't see that and somebody said that

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it looks like um oh Lawrence Fishburne from the matrix and I was like oh that's funny yes no I'm

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like I get a little fight because you know he was like my favorite but I used to get in the arguments

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about D Wade and LeBron that didn't age well but like people that knew me back then I had D Wade

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posters like I was a fan right I was a fan so I was more so celebrating the moments like the child

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in me was like that's D Wade you know I've been a heat fan even when I lived in even when I lived

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in Maryland but the issue now is I wanted to see how we actually responded because you really don't

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know you know how a person is until you respond to see how they are with their teams and I wanted to

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see I responded with all the to me I call it just over over critical right now if you got a guy you

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know someone he said this in a press conference he looked around he goes you know anyone who's at you

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you know anyone who's that you why exactly are we going to have entire segments about the fact that

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it doesn't necessarily look like him because I I didn't even think that when I first saw it I felt

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and I'm saying all this I might be rambling but I'm saying all this because my initial thought was

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D Wade has a statue outside of my from Chicago wow a kid I mean as a kid that took me back to the

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the kid in me I used to look up to of 06 finals I mean absolutely did it a statue absolutely

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now I don't look like him I was the last thing I thought about and he and he elevated his team

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right that's such a big thing so we can do that when our team members when we want to get mad at

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our team or we want to control things or act like oh my gosh it's the end of the world because it

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didn't have x y or z oh well that's critical Jackson they had to get that right it's like no

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you have to get your relationships right if you're going to be a great leader we've got to get our

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relationships right and support our people so you know they they did an amazing job he did it such

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a he just left a legacy like a legendary opportunity for us all to learn from his

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entrepreneur so we're gonna be talking about ditching overwhelm right from the the hazards of

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the adversities that come up and and really developing highly motivated teams and how we

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can do that as one's going to lead us away on that before we do as one what are three resources

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that you recommend for other visionaries and leaders out there that have helped you you know

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get to where you are three resources first one I would say is a book by Malcolm Gladwell outliers

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all right Malcolm Gladwell outliers for me that was that was a book that really took success took

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success and put it into a really simple math problem you look at your life you look at the

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things that you have going on and you know that book that book defines go read I want to spoil

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it for anyone who hasn't read it but go get that that dude is a research champion and he

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he actually has a new one that I got to get soon it's like the second one of tipping tipping point

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tipping point tipping ah uh the third one I would say people to be 100% honest with you people like

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actually going to a stranger and presenting them with an idea presenting them with something that's

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on your heart and on your mind and getting feedback getting realistic feedback from people and if I

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had to if I had to I don't know if this is actual resource but it's something that you can take as

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a resource got to take action got to take action so I've got away all right outliers as a book

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yes people that you know are doing some of the things that you want to do and again two and three

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kind of are aligned but you have got to take action in some kind of way even if that person

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you don't have access to you got to go send a dm do something get in a habit like there was a point

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when I first started right after college I was a college scout I would email maybe like 15 to 20

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different college coaches a day even if whether they got responded to or not you did what say

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that again say it again 15 to 20 different college coaches a day and very few of them actually got

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responded to but I knew just taking that action gave me the confidence to go out and recruit the

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next kid and recruit the next kid and now the business I built is based on a lot of the things

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that I learned as a college football player so just taking action I would hide your emailing

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these college coaches right every day when what was the purpose what were you trying to accomplish

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simply building a relationship that's it what was that was it goal outcome yeah the goal so what I

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might when you wanted to play no no no no this was when I was actually recruiting for other players

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so I would go out and I would actually recruit high school players as a college guy like put eyes

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on them and I couldn't be doing this if I didn't have the relationship with college coaches so it

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was a matter of making sure the relationship was there even if it was just via email and then going

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out and you know promising or working with a specific athlete so I was doing the work that

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I needed to do to build the relationship for somebody else and then as the next player comes

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up the next player comes up all that kind of stuff I love that thank you for helping me help me and

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this was in what year 2010 very good so this is this is back before all the automation oh yes oh

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boy yes it was you got a lot of work to make these things happen and you know nowadays you know

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somebody's doing 20 emails per day they're gonna get the same types of results you know that so

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you're getting but the principle is what I want everybody to catch is that discipline and the

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hard work that was put into building those relationships up so I love that and the three

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resources again outliers Malcolm Gladwell to people my guest yesterday phenomenal no I said

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yesterday on uh Friday um fantastic conversation uh about people as well as a resource and then

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third take action or in other words make you move yes sir you know that's what I'm all about

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love the place as well right we got to move swiftly on these opportunities life is short my friends

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if we let it get away it can be easy to regret the fact that we didn't make our move when he had the

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opportunity to do so so make your moves today and we're gonna see you guys on the other side we'll

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dive into the vision and talk about highly motivated teams and how to create that for

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our own environments all right welcome in to vision pros live with Jackson Callum I'm your show host

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we'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building

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fantastic visions out there

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hey what's up vision pros welcome into another episode of vision pros live my name is Jackson

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Callum the founder and CEO of first class business and I'm excited to have Aswan Cruikshank on the

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show today of make your move.com Aswan's actually a client at first class business so this is fun

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because we'll be able to look at some of the development activities that have led us to work

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together on and and why we work together too we'll explore that too about overcoming ditching the

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overwhelm and moving towards um developing highly motivated team members it is super important

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that we uh we look at this now visionary some of you still have the solar pruner mindset and

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that's okay if you feel that's for you I understand all I can tell you is I've never ever been able to

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build a business successfully without an amazing team so knowing how to recruit team members knowing

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how to find them knowing how to train them knowing how to develop them is one of the most important

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skill sets that you can develop for yourself if you're building something that is going to be

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scalable and stand the test of time and so I'm excited again to dive in with him on that I want

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to give another couple resources and a shout out to the water project we're going to start with Dave

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Morrow of hardtokill.org uh Dave Morrow uh is on the mission to help 100,000 veterans lose two

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million pounds collectively you can check out his podcast the hard to kill podcast he is an award

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winning podcaster who's been doing this for more than five years I just spoke at the the military

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influencer expo down in Georgia and he's actually one of my favorite leaders to have worked with no

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offense Aswan you'll grow there uh we haven't worked together long enough yet my friend but um

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Dave and I have been working together for more than six months at this point I believe and to see his

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growth and to see his book come his second book's coming out soon and he's expanded his community

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so that anybody the civilians as well can get involved in the hard to kill community and it's

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helped me with my health tremendously so I highly recommend checking out what we're up to with hard

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to kill and joining us over in that program and sending your military friends so they can get the

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help and support they need to look good feel good and go do good in addition to that we've also got

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open eyes to trabajo para latinos that's opportunities for work for latinos we also have

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opportunities for work for the Philippines and we have opportunities for work for Indians and we

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have respective co-founders now of those organizations with me what we're doing is we're

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helping virtual assistants or people who are unaware of opportunities that exist on LinkedIn,

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Canva, Upwork, Fiverr there are millions or billions of people who do not know that those

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sites exist most of the latinos I meet do not know those resources exist we're helping them

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learn how to become virtual assistants or digital ambassadors as we call it we get them the job

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training and then we get them placed with organizations that are going to treat them

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well as team members or we get them the skill sets to go and find their own work if you know

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a latino leader a Philippines leader or or somebody from India who also would enjoy being involved

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in those podcasts please send them away or please comment let us know if you were one of those

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individuals we'd love to have you on those shows we're all about bridging the gap so that the the

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economic gap in order to stabilize the world not just North America but South America and rest of

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world included super important for us thank you for hearing me out on that lastly is the water

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project I have no affiliation with the water project but I absolutely love the way they

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transparently go about their work when I uh when I started studying this project I realized there

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were millions of people who don't have access to clean drinking water and that's something that

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we like to forget about in America I've never been thirsty in my life these kids are going to

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water holes three four miles away for their home or the or the wives are whoever else is going out

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there and you can see the toll that it's taking on their lives and if we could just donate a little

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bit of money or inspire somebody to do so what the water project does is they let you invest in a

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specific community and you get to see the project come to fruition whether it's a borehole well or

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a sand dam the like I said the transparency that they create with this is amazing the picture you're

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about to see gets me emotional almost every time I see it because I see these kids celebrating water

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like my kids celebrate Christmas day that's how much this means to them so again I hope you take

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the opportunity to even if you can't give back financially to talk about this with friends and

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family and spread the word because you never know who will be the person that dives in and funds one

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of these projects or even 10 of them you might have that effect on somebody so if you have another

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cause that you'd like to see us contribute to then of course drop that cause in the comments

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the more the merrier we've got an abundant opportunity to help and it's my responsibility

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rocking this microphone that that I also try to inspire others to join us in doing good throughout

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the world so thank you for your time and attention on that without further ado Aswan Crookshank

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welcome back to Vision Pros Live. Great to be back and shout out to you with the work you're doing

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with that water project man very important stuff very philanthropic stuff much much needed in this

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world. 100 my friend here's my hope for us I would love to win the next 12 to 18 months one of my

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goals is to get us to Africa I'd like to take my team take one of my videographers take my oldest

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child and go and visit one of these opportunities I'd love for you to join us. Yes I would love that

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as well man an important point is he said goals guys he said goals he didn't say resolutions he

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said a specific goal and that uh that that's important to have as well. 100% absolutely so

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you know I love to see us bring that to fruition obviously like you said we got to take action

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right we got the right people we got to get after it if we're going to do these things so

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with all that said I know some people can hear that and be like oh man they're talking about

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the rat race they're talking about the hamster wheel or they're talking about grinding through

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life and that's not what I'm talking about at all so what is your vision for those that you serve

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Aswan? The vision is for any business owner any business that really is truly cares if you care

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about if you care more than just your profits if you care more about people and you actually have

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a quality service that it's burning in you and you believe in it the vision is to serve them in a way

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in which they can bring in a group of people they can create a cohesive team that is so motivated

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it's so hungry they come to work every day knowing their specific role and they're upset when things

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don't go well they're upset whether they mean they upset when the company isn't doing well they're

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not just okay I got my check and I'm moving on and you know doing whatever with my life the vision

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for the people that I'm trying to serve is I want them understanding how valuable it is how great the

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feeling is to have a team of people that really grind really work to the point where you're going

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to go to work every day you feel like like a championship high school football coach you want

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to have that level of commitment amongst every last one of your employees. I love that and you

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know one of the things that you talk about is your words not mine you help these companies find and

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develop highly motivated staff members you know these business owners and they know that you

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know they need better systems and you know keeping the people motivated but also making sure that

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they're not overwhelmed by this process and this experience you call your system the move swiftly

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playoff system you know and and that entails that like okay like there's some energy involved with

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this tell me more about that tell me what what can what can the business owner anticipate that

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process looks like to develop the team? Well first of all they can number one expect to

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have measurable goals for each employee all right now I've worked in a ton of different jobs I've

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been in a lot of different industries a lot of transient industries whether it's fitness whether

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it's education whether it's athletics all of these industries are very transient and the issue is the

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ones that win the ones that the business owners that actually survive and the ones that actually

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have that relationship is the fact that they are establishing measurables specific measurables for

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a person when they walk in the door so the night before they're thinking about it all right the day

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before they know I got to get this done so the way you do it is you have to have every single person

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walking in those doors knowing what needs to get done today if you let a person go eight hours

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without doing anything and still getting a check that's on you as an owner all that employee is

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doing is taking advantage of a check and if they get too used to that all of a sudden they're

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going to start complaining all of a sudden this isn't right this isn't right and then they're

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going to go move on and find something that pays them more when if you as an owner set up your

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system the right way you could have created a measurable in which they learn how to pay themselves

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through your service one of the things I talk about and it's a word that I've coined by the

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way folks it's called being a win-trap-inewer all right not an entrepreneur not an entrepreneur but

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a win-trap-inewer where every day you have a job you're getting paid two weeks but you're taking

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it on the mindset you're taking the mindset of this is my business and I'm going to make sure

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this measurable gets done you can't realistically expect a person to do that unless there's a

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specific measurable for what it is that needs to be done every day and that's all because that also

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makes it easier to have the mindset too of like winning the day oh right all this is sports stuff

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all this stuff is stuff that we learn playing sports every single day you don't know why you're

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doing you don't know why you're in you know 100 degree weather with pads on sprinting up hills

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you don't know why you're doing it until you get to that friday night and i have to have me because

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now you really got me thinking i got to take you there one of the greatest things that i ever got

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from a high school football coach shout out to coach again is it was during one of those workouts

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jackson where he looks at all of us he goes the guys there's no better feeling than walking off

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that field on a friday night the lights are on your family's there and after a win so all this

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and then i like to take that mindset to business you know what i'm saying i like because whether

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you're a single mom and you're struggling to just get to the damn job and you have to you know car

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pool with this one you have to pay this one guys just to get there there's no better feeling than

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being able to go out and make money on your own with the support of a job all right with the

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support of a job and then feed your family and then watch your kids your kings your kings and queens

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ladies but watch them just grow and develop and say i put in that sacrifice no better for you as

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an owner imagine that vision bro imagine you've been able to do that there's such an opportunity

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too because fun you know energy motivation all that stuff creates more and more success you know

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the emeth talks about this in the book i have it on my desk right now because i was talking about

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my last podcast i was on and he talks about how you want to make it like a game right you you want

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your people to be inspired and excited to be there and you're bringing that to fruition and

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sometimes we get caught up in the details and i'll tell you my heart and mind is like oh man

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measurable goals for each team member i know how hard that is to do you know i know how much energy

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it takes to sit down and do that if i look at it as a chore right if i look at it as a task and yet

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if i can look at it from a game perspective it can elevate me to really really play with it but also

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this is this something that you then help the entrepreneurs do so that they're not just creating

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random measurables that don't make sense for each employee how does that work well you you took that

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i'm glad you asked that because you're right as soon as and this is what i've seen owners do when

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they get a little desperate and not to talk politics in but there's one side that's obviously

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getting very desperate by bringing a bunch of celebrities in the final hour and all that but

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we will leave that to the side but the issue with a lot of you owners is when it gets to a point

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where your business is about to fall and you start to see those numbers going down now you want to be

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a boss now you want to be the the stern leader and you can't go from being nice to being me you can

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only go from being an a-hole to now you can be nice so when it comes to me helping you as the

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entrepreneur what we do is we break them down into categories all right now when i played football we

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had three categories is group a group b and group c group a incredible athletes can do anything can

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will probably make great athletes in whatever sport they decided to play wide outs running backs

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and the defensive backs group b was my group the linebackers and the quarterbacks so group a

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we call them skilled workers this is the acronym swiftly that is what we'll call this so the group

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a people they're skilled workers and if you think about it the people that can that have a skill

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whether you're a cosmetologist whether you're a plumber if you're getting paid on your skill

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that's that's great so that's what i look at when it comes to the s the wi well-informed group b

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that's like my we were the linebackers the uh quarterbacks the tight ends well informed as

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a quarterback and as a linebacker you got to make sure you skill people on the right position whether

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you're on offense or defense if you're on defense a linebacker's got to look back make sure the dbs

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are where they need to be in coverage quarterbacks need to make sure the receivers are running the

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right route the same way managers it's your job okay it's your job as a manager to take in your

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skill the skilled workers that you have put them in the right position to succeed and then you have

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ft the front team workers and you know and the football world to translate that for you

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it's the offensive and defensive lineman that you only care about when they're giving up a sack or

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there's a holding call or somebody who a defensive lineman might get a sack or might stop you the

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things that they do every single day goes very very undervalued the same way that the person who

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cleans up this room takes out this trash every single day he takes out this trash every single

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day the person that's cleaning up the windows all of those people go underappreciated right

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so what i've done with the acronym swiftly is i go and sit down with a business owner and say

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who are your skilled guys who are your well-informed guys who are your front team people and

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what exactly needs to be the priority right now what's the priority in terms of how you get more

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sales in terms of what's going to help your bottom line is it going to be the skill workers going to

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be the well-informed well usually they're the well-informed workers i'm working with but

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are you going to need someone that is more of a well-informed worker that can replace you

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so whatever the the category you may have as a business owner that's going to lead to results

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now we focus on that that's why we call it the playoffs okay because you don't have the luxury

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of being in the regular season of business that was school that was college all right we had the

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playoffs now and now it's like okay you got to get sales today and we got to figure out what we

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need today and let's get our measurable set for today so these these measurables are actually

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uh they're they're intentional all right another great book to check out gary zucav uh seed of the

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soul by gary zucav he talks about intentions set intentional intentional measurables that's a tongue

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twister but you got to be intentional and every single measurable that you uh that you actually

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create i love that all right so those of you listening vision-wise uh some of you are thinking

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well i am the coach for my team but have you ever seen a football team or basketball team

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there ain't one coach uh you got the coach you got the assistant you got the different

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position coaches and trainers and all that uh you don't want you don't want to be that guy like

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imagine trying to compete in a real league in life and say no we just need one coach we're going to

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do it without all the people that everybody else is doing it with like you just setting yourself

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up for a disaster so make sure that you're aware of that you remind me moving outside of the sports

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world a little bit as you talk through this i'm like oh man you're the watson to sherlock holmes

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i was like you're the guy that's there supporting catching things that he's not

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and most of your work in hand in hand kind of doing the same thing but appreciating and building

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energy off of each other and who the heck doesn't doesn't want that if they can find somebody who's

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effective at it and like that's the key so i see a very effective individual helping with this

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process let's dive into a darker area as one because life hasn't been perfect for anybody

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um you know you and maybe you're the first person um but what's the worst leadership experience that

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you've ever had um i probably don't have time to talk about all of them i'll try to again i've

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worked in fitness worked in athletics worked in education the worst leadership experience i've ever

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had yeah and this isn't specifically about you no no i'll go i'll go with a specific one because

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this was one and this is important because i don't want to i'm not going to bash the person that i'm

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going to bash the person i'm not going to trash the person i spent enough time doing that on my

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own show and my own stuff but i want to i want to i want to talk about one that he did something

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but his intentions were well all right so i used to work at the d1 d1 training d1 nova this was back

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in virginia right d1 sports and training that's like a big it's they use celebrity athletes to

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promote this type of gym where you come in it's where the d1 athletes train a lot of nfl and nba

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players i think chris paul has one uh if it's still open or anything like that so i used to

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work at one in virginia right and the facilities manager was you know he was the one that brought

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me in as a coach and he was he started it he was a coach and then he became the facilities manager

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and it's his role to get people walking through the doors and all that kind of stuff or

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to collect these deals where they do a deal with the softball team and bring people in all that

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stuff so we had our regular group of people regular folks that come in just for the boot camp

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and all that kind of stuff we had a good group of those showing up but the the brand is about how

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we can get these corporate deals and how we can get these teams in so we can make more money on

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the back end so what they decided to do was they decided to install nets like actual softball nets

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at this d1 facility and what happened was they get the corporate deal they get the corporate money

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and all that but the people who were working out regularly paying their over a hundred dollar a

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month membership they started to get slighted because these nets are up and we have a bunch of

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softball girls they're playing and we have whole teams so the space wasn't big enough for these

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people that were already paying a membership just for these boot camp classes now did he did he

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build these nets so these people would leave or with ill intention no he did not he built these

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nets because he thought it was the best thing to do and ultimately what happened is this this gym

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specifically ended up going out of business they folded boom just like that and it came from a

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place where you just didn't know how to create measurables now let's let's you know use the

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examples if you use my system if he uses my system now he says to himself you know what the nets may

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not be the best thing however we do need to have some sort of a deal that if you're a coach here

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it's your responsibility to bring in a team to work out we don't need nets here they have nets

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at other places we don't necessarily need to you know remove the facility but you have to give us

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you have to continue to um you have to continue to do other things then just train these specific

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boot camp people because that's what the brand entails if there was a measurable like that that

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i could have taken in and went to a high school softball team or some you know you saw a team

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and brought them in then you are able to at least test it out before you go build these nets and

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now you've ruined the experience and because of communication because you didn't create a measurable

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now the business has failed because the nets were already up the money was already spent and boom

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now look at it and i have tons of examples just like that like i said i just don't got time to

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get into all of them right you you got the um you have the same style and a very um relatable

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subject along with uh steve rice so steve rice was yesterday he's one of the product people as well

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and i can't wait to connect you guys i gotta get you guys connected because um he's got this term

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called the zero unmeasurable externalities um and his concept and your concept go hand in hand i

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could see you guys conquering the world together in big ways so um we'll have to get him over on

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your show as well and see what you guys can do together um speaking of great leaders man

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what's your best ship experience that you've ever had this goes back to i mean not counting my mother

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and a lot of the work we do for the for the sake of this man shout out to mom i have to share to

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have to share to have to share do it do it do it because mom deserves some love on this and i know

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there's a lot of parents who keep up with my standing elevation mom this is this was out of the cuff so it's

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called silver spring maryland all right silver spring maryland we're in the dead of winter and i

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just happened to have a winter coat on the zipper did work all right we're walking and we just you

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know bundle up look you just gotta do what you gotta do we bundle it up and as we're walking to

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our destination we stop in a thrift store and then she asks the person you guys have velcro you

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guys have velcro or something that i could cover my son's chest up with uh with some velcro just

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because the zipper won't work wow i mean to this day bro and i've been around some great leaders

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but to care that much we're stopping in the middle of cold and i remember actually saying this to

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her when i got i was like wow like you actually just think about us all the time you don't know

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why i always think about your big headed ass and it was the thing is it sticks with me because this

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was natural this was again picture this guys we're in the freezing cold we're getting to a

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destination and instead of getting to this destination she stops and said oh there's a

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thrift store can my son whose zipper is broken can you guys put some velcro on it real quick

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just so he can cover up his chest and that's when you care that's when you really actually

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care about a person to get that level of caring that's another level so when it comes and i say

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this all the time jackson when it comes to the way i judge my football coaches and when it comes to

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the way i judge my current like employers and the people i've worked for they don't know what they're

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being compared to they have no idea the kind of leadership that i had you know in the house with

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that one woman i didn't even bring up my dad and my older sister but in in terms of the next example

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i want to share and this is important for a lot of you football coaches can you give me time to cry

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yeah can you give me a little bit of time to cry about this man like go ahead do what you got to do

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do dang dude i was just like i just wish i mean we're on the last few days episode was episode

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2099 wow i think you just took the cake for best leadership experience you know like

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if all of us took the time to think about the the sacrifices that our moms some of our cases our

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dads have made um you know that like we we've got so many leadership examples around us um that we

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often just overlook and don't see sooner we start looking at that and appreciate that saying i can

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do that i have that power like the sooner we would step into being pretty awesome leaders so go ahead

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next one man well now you're getting me because i mean it it's it's in the home too you're talking

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about a woman who has an associate's degree from chardad and tobago there was no fancy college there

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was nothing you know associate's degree and you have people now who have gotten all sorts of

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fancies educations and they're doing this but when you talk leadership this question that we're

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looking at it starts and ends right there with that woman no ifs ands or buts about it because

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i went into the world judging or holding quote-unquote leaders to a different standard

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so i would advise anyone that's listening when you got young people in the home and you actually

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decide to be a leader what it changes in that young person is they're going out and they're

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holding their leaders to a different standard because what we can see in this political season

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and again i'm not telling you go left or right we're seeing a drop off in leadership we're seeing

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a situation where one person drops out the other person is saying this and saying that and now we're

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having to resort to picking the less of two voting against someone instead of voting for someone

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and my challenge to everyone that's listening is be the leader in your home so your young people

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come out and say that's not real leadership man and to get to the second point when i played for

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the white oak warriors this was the year we had transitioned from capital beltway league to pop

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warner and the favorite my favorite coach i've ever played for his name is coach brian davis

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it was the first game we're playing northwood and because we're in a new league we didn't know that

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we had to actually wear cups all right this was some new stuff that we had to do we find out the

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saturday the day of the game and this man takes money out of his own pocket runs to a k-mart buys

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all of us cups and we end up winning the national championship that year 2002 first year in the league

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i will never i mean we went to florida did the whole thing and won it all i'll never

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forget the first game where we realized oh we don't got cups hey i'm the man i'm gonna be the

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guy that goes and takes money out of his own pocket sacrifice give them boys cups and you know

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do what they have to do that's real leadership so when i walked into the working world bro

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and you got people who are trying to think about vacation time and you're you know doing things

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where you're showing up late and you know i didn't understand it it was like a foreign language i

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didn't understand this idea of you know not wanting to work and never looked at it as something that

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was a punishment it was always something you know you realize virtue to do it yeah oh man

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and everybody listening in i mean you just heard executive leadership at the highest levels

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by as one cook shane like my goodness uh who wouldn't want who wouldn't want that

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um and on their team like golly okay so if this was your last chance i was wanting to uh

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to share with the world all right let's go deep what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn

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from your experience be yourself the uh and i say it as quickly every time i get a question like

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this it it's important that you never lose sight of being yourself listen use use me as an example

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picture a kid growing up in silver spring maryland right there in the politics right there in the

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heart of it right right on the outskirts of dc the sons and daughters of lawyers potential candidates

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the people that we see on tv a lot this time of year picture that kid going into a classroom

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and the teacher going through the attendance and they're saying ash crook s1 crook something

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something whatever and a young boy needing to correct an adult that is the first impression

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you and i both know this and everyone listening though you do get a second chance at a first

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impression so my first impression of you is giving you a correction on how to say my name

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how exactly do you think it's gonna do you think it's gonna be easy for that boy to fit in

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in school no but what happened was is i realized when i grew up that it wasn't a burden it was

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actually a blessing it was actually an opportunity for me to be myself speak to authority whether you

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call yourself an authority figure regardless of your title you have got to now kind of respond

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and you got to show up every single day because your title don't mean shit to me all right it

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really doesn't your time it shouldn't mean anything to anybody that's what i'm saying you have you

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have to live up to it you're a leader every single day based on how you do your work that's how it's

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supposed to work i love that be yourself i love the tie too i'm i was very blessed with a unique

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name as well um you know and so my first name herbert which most people don't know uh you know

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like i know i didn't want that name so exactly sharing the same thing so um when i was jackson

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like people want to know if that was my last name or not and nobody knows how to pronounce

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my last name and so it gave me an opportunity to explain things and when you're when you're going

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around a room too and you're talking about like you know most teachers they they do like to get

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to know you sessions when you're when your first day of school and all that and they want to know

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about your family whatever and so when they come across to jackson it's like i got five older

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sisters um you know as or my unique fact i've got 15 half and step brothers and sisters right it's

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like whoa class stops you know it becomes this open question answer session and and it was always a

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little bit awkward but it shaped my ability to dialogue and so each kid now my children all have

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very unique names that is not an accident um that's very much on purpose because it does help with

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the the social skills aspect um so i love that i love that you bring that up and by the way

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the irony here i totally miss spelled your last name and i wrote your quote so i gotta get that

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fixed on all the channels um because uh i know what that's like i did when i wrote i either wrote

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in the quote or in the uh title one of the two so i gotta look that up make sure i get that right um

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because no it's right uh c-r-u-i-c-k-s-h-a-n-k that's right uh yeah i forgot to see in one of my one of

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my little quotes on the social media channels oh it's not oh okay all right dr ron but here's the

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here's the thing about that story actually so right when i worked at orange theory um the guy

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shout out to drew but he had texted somebody he was texting me and he was texting my name and he

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goes yeah the autocorrect changes his name to asians and then i texted her back like yeah

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that's just something on my list to do so yeah all right and so we we got these opportunities

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and as leaders right you talk about making space to be the leader in the scenario as well

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right it's we have an opportunity to easily get offended about things we also have the opportunity

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to lean in and help people feel comfortable with scenarios and a lot of that has to do with

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again letting overwhelm go and developing highly motivated teams or developing ourselves so

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going back to that subject to finish off um what are some other what are some of the areas one what

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are the questions people aren't asking you that you want to be asked on a show like this to dive

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into it and two what are some of the ways we're overlooking this that we could change as leaders

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to make sure we are accommodating for for an environment of motivated team members

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so a show like and as far as a show like this uh i think you're doing a great job uh i think it's

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important that you just get this conversation going because as a business owner you know what's

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best for your own business you know exactly what it is you're going to need and it's important that

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you have the dialogue with yourself so you know what questions you're going to ask me based on

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what's beneficial to your business so just getting the information out there and making sure that

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you know people know that i exist i definitely appreciate that and as far as what's being

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overlooked it's the the self the the college thing the whole you know i'm just going to go to school

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and you know get my degree and do my thing and start my career and everything that we're pointing

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to we're pointing to us we're kind of staring people indirectly to a situation where it's all

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about me me me me me me me me go get a better education go do this for you go go get better

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yourself me me me me me so by the time you've been indoctrinated with this idea of oh i'm going to go

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to school for me me me me me you start to lose the idea of it's about we it's not going to be

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going to be oh i got my degree so i'm not going to need anybody else in my life no you're going to

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need to work with people regardless of your career regardless of your job regardless of whatever it is

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you're trying to do it's not going to be just about yourself and too often do we stare people

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in this direction where they make it all about themselves that's huge okay so here's the weird

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thing you guys i was traumatized by that reality yeah traumatized i can't my ptsd in life that is

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the biggest connection to ptsd that i still carry and have is as one i went on a mission at 19 years

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old for two years my entire life was about focusing on serving others and helping other people

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right i come back from that two-year mission having to switch my mindset to me me me what degree

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who am i going to marry what am i going to do for life living like all of those things because and

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nobody made me think that way i but i i chose to go back to looking at society from that lens

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and it was one of the it was one of the most difficult transitions and hardest things to

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realize and i'm so grateful for the two years that i had because they they set me up for an

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opportunity to think about the bigger picture right and for i was ready to move but i didn't

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even with two years of that i ended up instantly abandoning that as i came back into the real world

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if you will and if we can help young people you know and old people like both start to realize

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how to stay true to that connection of we that we can make massive changes god i've never even

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thought about it that way yeah and you hit that you literally hit the nail on it it's so easy to

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fall into that me me me it is how do you get how do we make it easy for people to escape that

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that but was easy it wouldn't be worth having oh thank you there's no easy way to get there

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there's no easy and that that and and just as you said that too often do we teach our young people

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to find something that's easy find this somebody makes you uncomfortable go block them if something

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is any level it and just remove this idea of anything is going to be easy and then just

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roll with it it's like one of my uh one of my virtual mess shout out to drape off and he always

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says you're gonna have to eat a shit sandwich at some point at some point you're gonna have to eat

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that shit sandwich and you know knuckle up and get through those hard times because that's what makes

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you strong there's no diamond out there that doesn't get thrown in the fire cut with wood

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i mean just everything it's it's one of those things where a diamond what a diamond goes through

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before it actually becomes a diamond think about the iron think about how much it sharpens think

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about all of this that's why it's always about iron sharpens iron so i can go on attention about

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this so you you gotta be preaching you gotta be preaching i'm so happy that you're doing it because

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i was thinking right before this i don't know well i don't even remember what inspired it it's

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something about the last episode i did i was like man well my kids come home this weekend we're

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gonna pull the we're gonna pull the laptops out and we're gonna work together on oh it was uh i

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was recording on one of my phones and my phone's running out of space and i've been trying to figure

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out how do i fix that you know where somebody can move stuff off my phones was like i could teach my

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daughter i was like but that would take me longer than just doing it myself and i was like that's a

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wrong attitude jackson i was like wait a second i'm gonna teach them how to do these things not

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because i want them to do my work for me not because i want them to fall in love with doing

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is they're not gonna love this process it's all it related stuff um right it's all like technical

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stuff but the act of spending the one or two hours with them on learning how to share files upload

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files position that they're 13 10 and 8 um you know they're gonna hate it after two hours the

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first 30 minutes they're gonna love but after two hours they're gonna hate it but that experience

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is going to serve them for everything else that they do in their life um and so no i'm not excited

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to you know go jump on a trampoline for endless hours oh you know unless that is dedicated to

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building their strength up uh connected to their passions in some way um i love that man thank you

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for giving me the permission oh i mean i just think through like no well thank you too i mean

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honestly and for those of you listening i know we're closing soon but i mean your your approach

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what you do in the episode we did will be out on my show as well but yes when it comes to working

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with jackson i'll just make sure i make sure i'm on the record stands when it comes to working with

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jackson there's absolutely no pressure at all there's absolutely nothing that you're gonna do

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that's gonna make you uncomfortable it's gonna be all about do you have a vision do you want to

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succeed and how badly do you actually want it he set up his model in a way that attracts very

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very strong-minded people that really do want to be great well i gotta i gotta throw that back to

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you because uh most of you would be uncomfortable working with me but as one's got strength of

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character and leadership so lions aren't uncomfortable with other lions when they get their eyes

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and that's who we're talking to we're not talking to most people we just said we're talking to the

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one that actually have accepted the fact that nothing's going to be easy no one's going to

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actually do the work for you and you're wanting people to really kick you in the ass a little bit

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and say hey come on now come on now you can't be talking about being great not showing up to these

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calls you can't be talking about being great and not you know responding and doing it and taking

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advantage of certain opportunities that are presented the move swiftly podcast everybody

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listening in make sure to go check that out awesome as one of those amazing interviews um i did get to

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be featured on that show i just saw scott ritzheimer and passing on your show i was like oh throwing

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down man he's got some great leaders on there who you know if i want to go great places in life

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then one of the best things i can do is surround myself with great people who are going in that

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same direction so i would highly recommend including as one crook shank in your life make

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your move.com go check that out and then in the action steps below this episode you'll see other

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