1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 Like we're afraid of what's not 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:08,560 We are live so Cynthia as speak Spanish, so that's fun. We'll dive into that too 3 00:00:09,120 --> 00:00:11,120 Because this is good. I 4 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:12,960 Fear can be 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,240 You know and it is something that there's a healthy side to it, right? 6 00:00:17,240 --> 00:00:20,540 There's a negative side to fear. Of course fear can keep us in our house 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:27,280 Protected from the root from from the entire world and worried. We worried about sharks swimming in our lawn 8 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:33,080 right, there's an impractical and there's the real ones and I think the a 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,200 Lot of the listeners a lot of the visionaries who come on this program 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:43,680 they have a pretty strong handle on a lot of their a lot of fears that other people don't and 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,400 now they've moved to 12 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:52,040 Higher levels and I think that's where we go when we talk about humanity itself our humanity 13 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,560 Does it impede our leadership or does it not? 14 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,760 And if we debate debate that higher level the 15 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,680 The more advanced visionaries and leaders from a self-awareness standpoint 16 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,880 Will be able to benefit far more because you you do have a gift of 17 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:10,720 Knowledge that leads you to be cerebral 18 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:17,120 And I don't think I think there's certain certain discoveries. We can't make about ourselves 19 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:20,160 Without that level of knowledge 20 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:24,640 That's one of the reasons why I'm really happy to have you on the show. So those who don't know Steve Rice 21 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,080 is one of the leaders at the globally conscious leader and 22 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:33,200 We talked about this deep subject called 23 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:37,200 Zero man. I got it right right before we talked zero 24 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:40,560 I'm not Steve 25 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,560 unmeasured externalities 26 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:47,040 externalities, right and I I had a really hard time with that just 27 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,560 understanding that concept but as I begin to understand 28 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,640 What that was all about I began to see the genius behind it, too 29 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,480 And I was like, okay, we've got so much to talk about at the end of the day 30 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:01,440 I found a man who sincerely cared about people 31 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,680 I found a leader who cared about his relationship with his children 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:11,600 A man who very much appreciates music and the guitar and we geeked out on a song that he had his son 33 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,720 Right and gave me an inspiration of something I can do with my son 34 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:20,400 And gave me an inspiration of something I can do with my children as they continue to expand their own 35 00:02:21,020 --> 00:02:23,020 opportunities as musicians 36 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,440 So it was it we had a smartie 37 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:30,400 Oh dude, it was huge man. I can't thank you enough for that because we do that in terms of 38 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:36,960 Art and drawing at this stage, but as they begin to become more comfortable with the instruments that they collectively play 39 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:41,520 Now my my three kiddos are already starting my three oldest my youngest one's not that stage yet 40 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,000 um, but it will 41 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,600 It's just so much fun, you know to play with your kids 42 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,800 Oh, you know and to play by inventing things 43 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,640 So do you mind just sharing that a little bit? What what I would love to you know 44 00:02:54,640 --> 00:02:57,120 Are you okay with sharing about the song your son and you? 45 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,120 Yeah 46 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:06,320 Yeah, I mean to start off to say like the the the biggest inspiration I had for my children is I wanted them not to be afraid of 47 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:10,720 Musical instruments kind of the way I was, you know, I was made to play piano 48 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,360 You know made to go to lessons and I loved music 49 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,240 But um, I learned a lot at those lessons 50 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:20,560 But coming home, I didn't have access to what I wanted to do which was play guitar and stuff 51 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:26,000 So I I hung my instruments on the wall when my kids are very little and I I made a rule 52 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,080 A couple rules that weren't really rules. They were just guidelines for the kids 53 00:03:30,640 --> 00:03:32,880 Uh, they were there are rules for something 54 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,560 You know if you take something off the wall, you have to play a song 55 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,480 You can't just bang on it and when you're done hang it back up. Those are the only rules 56 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,480 So I now have three children who are all expert musicians 57 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,920 And uh, we have a band we've recorded like over 500 songs 58 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,200 And maybe 20 or 40 of those are originals and part of what jackson's 59 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,800 Talking about is we have an album of live songs 60 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:03,920 That's on spotify plus four or five others that are cover albums and we have a youtube channel 61 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,320 um, and uh, so yeah, we we write songs together and 62 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,080 I actually have another band that we played friday night at a halloween party and we played one of the songs that my son and I wrote 63 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,520 so 64 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,880 It was a big hit 65 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,360 so that brings me a lot of joy playing music and singing and and uh, 66 00:04:21,840 --> 00:04:26,720 Yeah, art is so cool, man. And this this song context for your visionaries out there 67 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:31,680 I mean these are this is why again and so you can do this in your work. You can do this in so many areas, but 68 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Um, if I remember the story correctly steve's son came in and they were talking about music and he's like hey 69 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:42,080 um, you know, why don't you uh create a song with the words god 70 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:49,600 Power lines or jesus power lines and journey or car or something like a highway. Um, and then 71 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:56,320 Within hours pretty much they had this song and video ai thing produced 72 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,220 I mean that that takes a lot of intentionality 73 00:04:59,220 --> 00:05:05,300 To be able to produce something like that and for those of you who may be newer to the idea of intentionality to me 74 00:05:05,300 --> 00:05:07,780 It's one of the most liberating feelings of life 75 00:05:08,340 --> 00:05:10,340 Right and one that if we maximize 76 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:14,740 Um our days can be highly enjoyable in ways that I just didn't experience 77 00:05:15,540 --> 00:05:19,540 Before becoming very intentional with my time. Yeah, other thoughts on that 78 00:05:20,260 --> 00:05:23,380 Well, I I would agree and I would use the word opportunity 79 00:05:23,380 --> 00:05:31,620 It kind of ties into what I how I try to be in the world and what I teach leaders whether they're a janitor or a ceo 80 00:05:31,620 --> 00:05:33,140 Or an owner of a company 81 00:05:33,140 --> 00:05:36,900 Um, which is mocha motivation opportunity clarity and ability 82 00:05:37,460 --> 00:05:44,740 And yeah, the the intentionality is about recognizing what you know what you're good at which is an ability having clarity that 83 00:05:44,820 --> 00:05:49,860 You you want to do it or you know what to do and giving yourself the opportunity to do it 84 00:05:49,860 --> 00:05:53,780 So, um, yeah, I agree 100 like that intentionality 85 00:05:54,420 --> 00:05:56,420 the desire to you know 86 00:05:56,900 --> 00:05:59,220 Figure out what you want to do and do it is really important 87 00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:01,940 It's baby. How are you listeners? 88 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:07,220 Y'all want more mocha in your life. So this works out. This works out nicely. There's two versions you can have 89 00:06:08,020 --> 00:06:14,020 So, uh, let's dive into resources a little bit. So steve if um, what are three resources? 90 00:06:14,020 --> 00:06:21,620 That you're grateful you came across and and implemented on your journey to become a visionary leader you could be books courses, etc 91 00:06:22,820 --> 00:06:26,980 Oh, yeah, that's an interesting question. Um, I think 92 00:06:27,780 --> 00:06:34,820 The one that i'm sort of standing on top of you know, like we're what do they say like uh standing on the shoulders? 93 00:06:35,380 --> 00:06:41,300 Giants, um, you know one of those is a book called humane leadership by 94 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:43,300 A gentleman named stephen slone 95 00:06:43,620 --> 00:06:48,260 Who happens to be a good friend of mine and he's the one who introduced me to mocha? 96 00:06:49,380 --> 00:06:50,260 um 97 00:06:50,260 --> 00:06:57,300 There's uh, most people in business probably know oma which is you know opportunity motivation and ability 98 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:00,100 That came out of some hr 99 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,580 Psychological studies in the 70s and became the oma 100 00:07:05,140 --> 00:07:07,140 framework in the 90s 101 00:07:07,140 --> 00:07:12,020 Uh and another acronym which stands for um, high performance workplace 102 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,580 hpwp 103 00:07:14,580 --> 00:07:20,660 So if you had an hpwp you were probably using the oma framework for communication 104 00:07:21,220 --> 00:07:28,180 Right and and it very much was sort of an hr tool trying to answer that question. How do we get the most out of our employees? 105 00:07:29,060 --> 00:07:31,220 Um, it wasn't particularly a humane 106 00:07:31,860 --> 00:07:34,260 Kind of thing it was it was a very 107 00:07:34,260 --> 00:07:41,140 Humane kind of thing it was it was it was leadership, but it was performance in value and metrics 108 00:07:41,620 --> 00:07:43,620 which are all important and 109 00:07:44,260 --> 00:07:47,060 the uh stephen added the 110 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,400 Clarity piece because he was running some major companies 111 00:07:52,020 --> 00:07:57,700 and he was realizing he was trying to have or was having oma conversations with people and 112 00:07:58,660 --> 00:08:00,660 What was lacking in terms of? 113 00:08:00,660 --> 00:08:05,160 Accountability was a clarity in each of those conversations 114 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,960 so and and he was looking to 115 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:11,400 as a manager not just 116 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,160 Not take their accountability away from them by demanding they do certain things but 117 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:25,720 Provide an opportunity for people to actually take that accountability themselves whether they understood that that was what was happening or not right? 118 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,560 and um 119 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:31,560 And part of that is his his natural belief in the goodness of people 120 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,360 Which I I agree with so 121 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,360 Yeah, so that's where mocha came from 122 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,160 And he used it as an accountability 123 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,240 um 124 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:45,560 What did he call it accountability jig accountability framework? I use it for everything 125 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,920 Yeah, and I also point out that we're all using it all the time. We just don't think about it 126 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:52,600 and 127 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:59,480 To tie in zero unmeasured externalities. I would actually say we're using that all the time, too. We just haven't put a name to it 128 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,240 so 129 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,240 That's one of the things um 130 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,040 The the other I would say 131 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:12,280 Is an unlikely one perhaps if you if you knew me personally, but there's a gentleman named paul o'neill 132 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:19,560 Who was I believe the secretary of the treasury for maybe the bush administration. He might have spanned 133 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:23,560 into clinton i'm not sure um, but 134 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,120 uh, he took over alcoa 135 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,760 in I think the late 80s 136 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:34,040 and uh, you know, he was a business person and alcoa was in the tank and 137 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,760 uh, he got up in front of 138 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:38,280 the 139 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,320 Shareholders and i'm intentionally using shareholders and not the word stakeholders 140 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:48,120 And he actually spoke to the stakeholders and what he said was to basically answer to the question 141 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,120 What are you going to do to make us money? 142 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:56,440 He said i'm going to make alcoa one of the greatest companies in the world again by focusing on one thing 143 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,240 worker safety 144 00:09:59,240 --> 00:09:59,960 safety 145 00:09:59,960 --> 00:10:01,960 And people literally went out the back door 146 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:08,360 after that and during that and told their uh, their you know stock folks to sell 147 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,840 Sell the shares in alcoa. This guy's a nut job 148 00:10:11,560 --> 00:10:15,400 What he was doing is he created a non-arguable goal around excellence 149 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,400 and he knew that 150 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:18,920 Workplace 151 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,920 But you could measure the excellence of an organization by how happy the employees are 152 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:24,600 so 153 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:26,600 I think one of the things he actually said 154 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:33,880 About that workplace excellence and in that particular non-arguable goal which ends up being 155 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:37,400 Uh zero worker days lost to illness 156 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,960 Injury sick days, right? 157 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,520 Um, that's a non-arguable goal 158 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,800 For his company, you're never going to attain that doesn't have to be attainable 159 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:51,320 And uh, but what happened is he said like if you work that if you're working in one of our factories 160 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,920 And there's a machine that is dangerous 161 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,320 And you bring it to the attention of your manager and they don't fix it 162 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:01,880 Then here's my phone number 163 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:09,480 Right. He also told management at all levels right now as of now you have an unlimited budget for worker safety 164 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,000 And if you don't if you don't fix something, it's on it's your hide 165 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:16,440 I'm i'm making you accountable for worker safety in every one of your factors 166 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,360 And somebody actually lost an arm in a factory in mexico 167 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,480 and they had brought to the attention of the 168 00:11:24,420 --> 00:11:28,540 Management that here was a machine that if somebody got bumped into it could be dangerous 169 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,640 And their solution was to paint a yellow line on the floor 170 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,880 Which was not safety and somebody got bumped into it while trying to get out of the way 171 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,880 I think that's a very dangerous thing 172 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,760 into it while trying to get out of the way, I think of a forklift 173 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:43,400 so 174 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:49,320 You know those people the managers got fired and one of the things that i'll that that paul o'neill said in that 175 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,320 Stock shareholder meeting is he said like if anybody wants to lose an arm 176 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:55,960 Raise that arm right now 177 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,960 Right, and that's that's a nice way to think about a non-arguable goal 178 00:11:59,960 --> 00:12:07,480 And which zero unmeasured externalities is a non-arguable goal and that's why i'm bringing up these non-arguable goals 179 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,440 um, so so you can have some context 180 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,360 so 181 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,760 So i'm standing on his his shoulders there 182 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,720 um 183 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:19,960 Boy a third one 184 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,040 um 185 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:31,960 I'm kind of honestly i'm drawing a blank. I started thinking about artists and uh people that are very creative 186 00:12:32,680 --> 00:12:34,440 um 187 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,540 You know peter peter frip, uh guitarists 188 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:40,920 um 189 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:42,920 Because I I do think that 190 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,720 You know business is a science and an art 191 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:47,320 and 192 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,320 It's it's a it's a human venture. It's it's an artistic adventure to 193 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:53,320 to invent something 194 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,760 You know make it with your hands and figure out how to sell it to other people 195 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,560 absolutely 196 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:05,640 Well, we're big on balance. Uh vision pros live is not a business show as much as it is a show by 197 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,760 A founder who happens to have a business, uh, you know named jackson 198 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:17,000 Um, so the show itself is designed around leadership and it's one of the reasons why I love that you included 199 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,860 the janitors, um, and that I don't say that speculatively 200 00:13:21,340 --> 00:13:25,500 I say that appreciatively because so many people would not consider 201 00:13:25,980 --> 00:13:30,460 The janitor leader so many people would assume that the intern doesn't have a place in leadership 202 00:13:30,860 --> 00:13:34,860 Um, but I think that you and I share the reality that as human beings we're all leaders 203 00:13:35,340 --> 00:13:37,020 um, and we all 204 00:13:37,020 --> 00:13:39,020 Have the opportunity to step into leadership 205 00:13:39,580 --> 00:13:42,220 A lot of people have a muzzle put on them 206 00:13:43,100 --> 00:13:45,100 you know or are 207 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:47,180 torn apart by other people who are 208 00:13:47,900 --> 00:13:49,180 leading poorly 209 00:13:49,180 --> 00:13:54,060 Um, and they may feel like it's not a good idea to step forward into their leadership capacity 210 00:13:54,060 --> 00:13:56,060 But there are great leaders like you 211 00:13:56,460 --> 00:14:01,500 Um like myself and like other other leaders out there who while we all have our flaws 212 00:14:02,140 --> 00:14:05,900 We want other flawed people to step forward and and become their best self 213 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:10,860 So I love the story i'm glad you reminded me of it when I when I the two times i've now talked to you steve 214 00:14:11,340 --> 00:14:13,660 Both times like first time was like oh my gosh 215 00:14:13,660 --> 00:14:19,020 I can only catch so much. Oh man on this time. It's registering a little bit more a memory of like oh good 216 00:14:19,580 --> 00:14:27,020 And uh, so this this conversation for those of you listening in this is the juice of executive leadership. Enjoy this and 217 00:14:27,340 --> 00:14:30,700 Steve will be right back. We'll come back and talk about your vision and uh, 218 00:14:31,260 --> 00:14:34,860 Those of you sticking around if you have questions for us drop them in the comments 219 00:14:35,260 --> 00:14:39,180 Even if it's after the live broadcast, of course, we'll come back to those and make sure they're dressed 220 00:14:39,180 --> 00:14:44,860 All right, welcome in to vision pros live with jackson callum. I'm your show host 221 00:14:44,940 --> 00:14:51,120 We'll be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there 222 00:15:00,140 --> 00:15:07,260 Hey, what's up everybody welcome into another episode of vision pros live i'm your show host jackson callum founder and ceo of first-class business 223 00:15:07,260 --> 00:15:12,460 And I get the privilege of having steve rice on the show today the globally conscious 224 00:15:13,020 --> 00:15:18,860 Leader we are going cerebral today. I highly recommend having a dictionary on hand 225 00:15:19,260 --> 00:15:23,180 Um, I have written plenty of notes already just in our intro 226 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:30,000 And these you know, it's funny. We live in a world that where steve and I both value simplicity 227 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:32,540 But we also both value 228 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:39,680 Complexity and if you take the human body for instance, my three-year-old can draw a human body very well 229 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:45,200 It is that simple yet a doctor can study the human body for 40 years 230 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:49,600 And still feel like they're just scratching the surface of what they know about it 231 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:55,680 So today we're going the doctor route and diving in much much deeper into the anatomy of leadership 232 00:15:56,080 --> 00:16:00,160 um humanity whether it impedes our leadership or not and how to make sure that 233 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,540 Um, you know, we bring out the best of our leadership opportunities 234 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:09,140 Um, so with that said before I bring steve back on I also want to give you guys some more resources 235 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:14,740 Um first one dave morrow of the hard to kill.org organization hard to kill.org 236 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:22,800 Is an entity that's helping 100 000 veterans lose 2 million pounds collectively dave's got a great show called the hard to kill podcast 237 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,860 He's award-winning. I highly recommend googling his name and the words and the word afghanistan 238 00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:33,540 And seeing just what he was doing as an advocate for people in need. Um, I absolutely love dave 239 00:16:33,540 --> 00:16:38,020 He's a good dude and he's out there helping so many people. He's now including civilians in this 240 00:16:38,420 --> 00:16:40,420 I'm in the workout program as well 241 00:16:41,060 --> 00:16:44,420 Because of it. I have maintained my own workouts 242 00:16:45,060 --> 00:16:49,380 It to a degree that I have not done in over eight years and my back feels better 243 00:16:49,620 --> 00:16:55,540 And i'm super grateful for whatever the heck he did to my mind and my heart to get me to be consistent with workouts again 244 00:16:55,540 --> 00:16:59,220 Um again, he's the only one being able to do that and I work with a lot of health people 245 00:16:59,620 --> 00:17:06,020 Um, so go dave then there's the oprah nice the trabajo para latinos that is opportunities for work for latinos 246 00:17:06,260 --> 00:17:08,100 That is our own homegrown program 247 00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:14,100 And if you know of latino leaders or you yourself are a latino leader and you'd like to come on our podcast 248 00:17:14,580 --> 00:17:20,980 Please do our podcast is designed to help inspire other latinos out there who may not even be aware 249 00:17:21,460 --> 00:17:23,460 of linkedin canva 250 00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:27,380 Up work and beyond a lot of countries outside of of the united states 251 00:17:27,860 --> 00:17:32,500 They very much focus on technical training and if you don't get specific technical training 252 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:37,940 The general assumption is that they then can no longer be employed in other areas of life 253 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:43,540 Yet you guys all know and I know that there's so many opportunities that exist for virtual assistance 254 00:17:43,860 --> 00:17:47,220 Um, and for being able to take care of people's brands and work with american companies 255 00:17:47,220 --> 00:17:53,860 But what we're doing in this program is we're inspiring latinos to jump into the game and come and realize they can put their existing 256 00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:59,620 Social media skills to use and learn the technicalities of how to support brands. So this is my passion 257 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:04,340 This is my love we're bridging the economic gap to north america south america and rest of world 258 00:18:04,660 --> 00:18:11,300 And this program has now expanded to opportunities for filipinos and opportunities for indians as well led by 259 00:18:11,780 --> 00:18:14,020 respective leaders from those communities, so 260 00:18:14,020 --> 00:18:19,060 Um, please join us on that and and uh, if you're in need of a virtual assistant 261 00:18:19,860 --> 00:18:25,540 Then uh, this is not the program for you. We see va relationships and I call it virtual abuse 262 00:18:26,180 --> 00:18:28,260 It's time. We take care of our people better my friends 263 00:18:28,660 --> 00:18:34,340 So then there's the the water project water project is not something we're associated with but it is something that is near and dear to 264 00:18:34,340 --> 00:18:35,380 My heart 265 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:36,420 When I found out about it 266 00:18:36,420 --> 00:18:41,860 I fell in love with the idea that you could give to a specific community and see the actual outcome 267 00:18:41,860 --> 00:18:46,180 Um, thanks to all the transparency that the water project puts into what they do 268 00:18:46,660 --> 00:18:53,940 Um, what really struck me was realizing that there are children and women and families out there who don't even have access to 269 00:18:54,340 --> 00:18:56,100 the basic resource 270 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:58,100 That I take for granted in life 271 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:01,460 So I started to meditate and think about well, how can we make an impact on this? 272 00:19:01,940 --> 00:19:06,100 And uh as part of the you know, that was part of the journey before launching this podcast 273 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:10,500 Now it's quite fun to see how many people love to get involved because we simply talk about it 274 00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:13,220 Um, we do give back to this project as well 275 00:19:13,300 --> 00:19:17,060 And if you're in a position financially to give back then of course, uh, feel free to do so 276 00:19:17,460 --> 00:19:22,340 If you're not my hope is to inspire you to then take this to a dinner conversation, you know 277 00:19:22,340 --> 00:19:26,820 Or perhaps tag a friend who might find this fascinating might be able to help when I see these kids 278 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:32,100 Celebrating water with the same enthusiasm that my kids celebrate Christmas day 279 00:19:32,660 --> 00:19:34,980 It reminds me of just how much good we can do in this world 280 00:19:35,620 --> 00:19:39,460 By by trying to again spread the word and doing our part if you have another 281 00:19:39,460 --> 00:19:40,980 Um 282 00:19:40,980 --> 00:19:46,100 Program or cause that you'd like to see us talk about or like to see brought to our attention 283 00:19:46,420 --> 00:19:50,900 Don't hesitate to drop that in the comments as well. We got eight billion people to help out there in this world 284 00:19:51,220 --> 00:19:53,220 Um, and it lights my fire 285 00:19:53,780 --> 00:19:58,260 To get up and do my part for that. So without further ado Steve rice 286 00:19:58,420 --> 00:20:01,460 Thank you so much for joining us on vision pros live 287 00:20:02,420 --> 00:20:04,420 Thanks. Thanks for having me back 288 00:20:04,420 --> 00:20:06,260 Yeah, my friend. Absolutely 289 00:20:06,260 --> 00:20:11,780 so, you know, there's there's uh, so many assumptions that I can make in terms of the depth of 290 00:20:12,580 --> 00:20:18,260 Your team and what you guys are doing and there's a family side of it and there's global leadership. There's local leadership 291 00:20:19,140 --> 00:20:26,340 What is the vision for those you serve and and who's who are you really who you're focusing on most? 292 00:20:26,500 --> 00:20:28,500 Serving on a day-to-day basis 293 00:20:29,940 --> 00:20:30,980 Well 294 00:20:30,980 --> 00:20:32,260 the 295 00:20:32,260 --> 00:20:39,780 I come from blue collar background. I come out of the outdoor industry. I was a fishing guide and a mountaineering instructor rock climbing instructor 296 00:20:40,420 --> 00:20:45,300 uh still an active snowboarder rock climber all that kind of stuff and um 297 00:20:46,180 --> 00:20:49,860 I I like working with the employees in a company 298 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:51,700 and uh 299 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:56,340 Sometimes you though in order to get access to those folks you have to start at the top 300 00:20:56,980 --> 00:21:00,020 Um, you know with an executive and get permission to do that 301 00:21:00,020 --> 00:21:03,220 so we at the globally conscious leader, we're actually 302 00:21:04,180 --> 00:21:05,460 trying to do both 303 00:21:05,460 --> 00:21:06,740 because 304 00:21:06,740 --> 00:21:11,620 We we know that we can go to an owner or a ceo and talk to them about 305 00:21:12,340 --> 00:21:18,020 Uh their own culture and the accountability of their employees. They're usually worried about employee accountability 306 00:21:18,740 --> 00:21:23,700 And uh and and eventually learn that they have accountabilities too that they're not aware of 307 00:21:24,260 --> 00:21:25,540 but also 308 00:21:25,540 --> 00:21:33,140 I've I'm fully aware and have experienced and taught individual people in companies where no one else knew what they were doing 309 00:21:33,620 --> 00:21:36,740 But they learned mocha and they started using 310 00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:38,820 that language 311 00:21:38,820 --> 00:21:45,220 When talking to their superiors during employee reviews when talking to fellow co-workers 312 00:21:45,780 --> 00:21:51,300 When talking to people who maybe were placed under their care, maybe they were a new manager and they had to discuss 313 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:55,300 you know, uh people actually getting the job done and 314 00:21:55,860 --> 00:21:58,760 You you can create more visibility 315 00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:06,580 more accountability and more reliability in yourself without telling anyone else that you're doing it by implementing mocha 316 00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:08,420 and 317 00:22:08,420 --> 00:22:10,420 um, so so the answer your question is 318 00:22:11,140 --> 00:22:14,340 I'm going to say everybody which is why I included janitors 319 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:17,300 because a janitor 320 00:22:17,140 --> 00:22:19,460 Can still make decisions that 321 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:24,580 Help the company meaning like we're not going to use these toxic materials to clean the floors anymore 322 00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:28,180 We're going to start thinking seven generations down whatever those things are 323 00:22:29,060 --> 00:22:31,380 um somebody who is a 324 00:22:32,340 --> 00:22:34,340 Say a graphic designer 325 00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:35,620 um 326 00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:39,540 You could possibly be working in what you might consider to be 327 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:44,260 Not the best kind of workplace call it call it toxic semi-toxic. Whatever it is 328 00:22:44,260 --> 00:22:48,980 You can actually help fix that simply by being a better person and 329 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:51,300 I'm not saying it's easy to be a better person 330 00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:56,340 And i'm definitely not saying you got to be all touchy feely to be a better person 331 00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:03,540 But I am saying if you want to give yourself a framework that allows you to have conversations 332 00:23:03,940 --> 00:23:11,780 That allow you to be a better person and give other people the opportunity to step up the mocha framework is something anybody can do 333 00:23:11,780 --> 00:23:18,740 Mm-hmm. You you nailed something huge too for the visionary leaders out there that are also in in your shoes. They've got to 334 00:23:19,620 --> 00:23:21,940 uh, they've got the opportunity to think through 335 00:23:22,340 --> 00:23:26,500 Who is it that they want to be influencing and who is it that they need to get access to? 336 00:23:27,060 --> 00:23:29,540 And you reminded me of one of my absolute favorite books of all time 337 00:23:30,260 --> 00:23:32,260 raving fans by ken blanchard 338 00:23:32,580 --> 00:23:39,700 And and the sheldon bowles, I think he he often doesn't get mentioned and that's not fair. Um, but this book has 339 00:23:39,700 --> 00:23:45,300 A couple of pages in here. I've got this marked as the most important pages two pages in the book 340 00:23:45,860 --> 00:23:47,860 obviously you need the full context but 341 00:23:48,420 --> 00:23:55,220 What you're talking about by mentioning sometimes you've got to go through the leaders in order to get to 342 00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:58,500 Those who you want to spend your time helping 343 00:23:59,540 --> 00:24:06,900 This concept is true of almost any style of organization that exists out there whether it's a family or it's a corporation 344 00:24:06,900 --> 00:24:10,660 In the restaurant industry we face this um with our restaurant software 345 00:24:11,220 --> 00:24:17,460 We could go straight to the owners, but if we took a top-down approach to implementing our software people were pissed 346 00:24:18,260 --> 00:24:20,900 They didn't want involved if we instead 347 00:24:21,540 --> 00:24:23,540 focused on the host team members 348 00:24:23,860 --> 00:24:27,700 and their managers and the servers and 349 00:24:28,260 --> 00:24:32,660 The assistant managers like we worked our way up. We ended up creating a 350 00:24:32,660 --> 00:24:37,380 Army of individuals who wanted our system so when we went and talked to the owners 351 00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:43,540 Their people were already bought into the idea of working with us and the people even started to demand it as we got really good 352 00:24:43,540 --> 00:24:45,540 Talking about that. So these pages 353 00:24:46,260 --> 00:24:47,620 pages uh 354 00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:49,620 458 and 59 355 00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:55,700 Helped me have that epitome way back in the day that okay. There's a managing partner. There's the gm. There's the assistant gm 356 00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:59,060 There's the marketing. There's the it there's the accounting. There's the owners. There's the investors 357 00:24:59,060 --> 00:25:04,180 There's the host team. There's the diner. There's the concierge as the event planner. There's the pr company or rep 358 00:25:04,660 --> 00:25:06,660 Every single one of those people 359 00:25:06,980 --> 00:25:12,660 Could represent an obstacle to my path or they could represent an opportunity 360 00:25:13,140 --> 00:25:17,540 To help me solidify my relationship with the organization. So that's a sidebar 361 00:25:18,100 --> 00:25:24,900 Option outside of to realizing grass visionaries outside of the direct nature of what steve just shared 362 00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:28,660 so steve you um, I 363 00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:33,300 I'm tempted to go down the story snowboarding path. Uh, like my my desire my yeah 364 00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:36,500 I wanted I wanted to have done that but we're gonna dive instead 365 00:25:37,060 --> 00:25:39,540 right into the leadership stuff, um, and 366 00:25:40,340 --> 00:25:43,940 We're gonna start with a couple of base questions and these to me 367 00:25:44,740 --> 00:25:46,900 We may find a way to tie these back to 368 00:25:47,780 --> 00:25:53,220 Does our humanity impede our leadership? In fact, I think they're representative of the leadership of the organization 369 00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:58,580 In fact, I think there are representations of that. So what is the worst leadership experience? 370 00:25:59,220 --> 00:26:01,220 That you've ever had 371 00:26:02,260 --> 00:26:03,700 Um 372 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:08,660 With me as the leader it can be or you know what we're really looking for is 373 00:26:09,460 --> 00:26:15,300 For the audience if there's one that you experienced, you know as the person being led to whatever is going to be most powerful 374 00:26:15,300 --> 00:26:19,860 For this audience. That's really what this is about even though it's a dramatic and juicy question 375 00:26:19,860 --> 00:26:23,780 Um, you know, I really want people to benefit the most from this. So yeah 376 00:26:24,580 --> 00:26:27,860 I do have a couple stories, but i'll i'll start with the one where 377 00:26:28,660 --> 00:26:32,660 I I got into where i'm at now because I was actually working for 378 00:26:33,300 --> 00:26:37,940 Uh, like I said, I was in the outdoor industry. I also was in the travel industry and in the 379 00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:40,740 the very youth of the internet late 90s 380 00:26:41,620 --> 00:26:43,620 I was tasked with developing 381 00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:46,100 an internet presence for a travel company 382 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:51,380 And uh, it was one of my first very large successes and it's the first time that I was able to take my 383 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,540 technological 384 00:26:53,540 --> 00:26:59,380 Uh proficiency and the artistry of how I think and put it together into something that actually was you know 385 00:26:59,380 --> 00:27:04,340 Had a business model to it and uh created revenue. We actually created a super 386 00:27:05,220 --> 00:27:07,800 It was an amazing company travel essentials.com 387 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:10,260 and um 388 00:27:10,260 --> 00:27:18,180 From that we we built a content management system which they I built it with a team that we hired at that company 389 00:27:18,580 --> 00:27:23,620 And we spun that content management system off. So you're we're thinking of things like wordpress 390 00:27:24,180 --> 00:27:30,820 And that build websites and that's how I got the technology start to start a company called.com jungle, which I still own 391 00:27:30,820 --> 00:27:39,540 Uh, and I so I ended up taking on.com jungle and building a company that had you know, 12 companies a modest, uh, 392 00:27:40,260 --> 00:27:41,700 You know agency 393 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:43,700 um with uh national 394 00:27:44,820 --> 00:27:49,700 You know brand and you know a couple hundred clients 12 employees and at some point 395 00:27:50,260 --> 00:27:51,940 uh 396 00:27:51,940 --> 00:27:54,580 I had I had a future my future business partner 397 00:27:54,580 --> 00:28:00,260 Came to me as a customer and interviewed me about he'd heard about me through word of word of mouth 398 00:28:00,820 --> 00:28:02,340 um, and uh 399 00:28:02,340 --> 00:28:05,940 He interviewed a whole bunch of people and he came back to me and he said look 400 00:28:06,340 --> 00:28:07,300 I 401 00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:10,580 I want to be the last kind of person like me that you hire 402 00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:12,340 and I 403 00:28:12,340 --> 00:28:17,700 Like what do you mean? Like you're hiring me? He's like no you're choosing the kind of people that you work with right? 404 00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:24,980 And and I want you to think about that because i'm looking at you and you you seem to me to be the most capable 405 00:28:25,540 --> 00:28:31,460 Person that i've come across between san francisco and portland that i've interviewed and i've interviewed a lot of them 406 00:28:31,540 --> 00:28:35,220 Trying to find who's going to work for me and first of all, you're the only one who wasn't full of 407 00:28:35,940 --> 00:28:37,940 Can I cuss? 408 00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:42,500 Yeah, wasn't full of shit meaning I didn't I didn't just say yes to everything 409 00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:45,620 He's like you're the only person who said that's not in my wheelhouse 410 00:28:45,620 --> 00:28:48,420 That's not in my wheelhouse and I and I value that highly 411 00:28:48,900 --> 00:28:51,940 He also he also said I think not only you're the most capable 412 00:28:52,020 --> 00:28:55,460 But I think you're underserving your entire community with what you can do 413 00:28:56,340 --> 00:28:58,900 And you're incredibly unhappy and I was like 414 00:29:00,020 --> 00:29:01,540 You're absolutely right 415 00:29:01,540 --> 00:29:07,700 And as a as a leader what I had done is I had started a company when I had very small children 416 00:29:08,020 --> 00:29:13,300 I had a mortgage I had other, you know financial concerns. I was I was basically a startup 417 00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:16,660 And I was saying yes to every single customer who called me 418 00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:22,740 Who wanted a website wanted integration with their erp's all that technology stuff? 419 00:29:23,540 --> 00:29:25,060 and I had 420 00:29:25,060 --> 00:29:30,180 Basically had 12 employees and I think nine of them were unhappy because I was unhappy 421 00:29:30,740 --> 00:29:34,100 I wasn't an abusive person right? I never have been 422 00:29:34,660 --> 00:29:38,260 Right, but I had created a work environment where nobody was really 423 00:29:38,660 --> 00:29:42,740 Nobody was really motivated to do what they were doing like they were good at 424 00:29:42,740 --> 00:29:48,100 That you know at being a designer or whatnot and I provided a lot of training a lot of support 425 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:53,460 But the whole atmosphere really wasn't that great, you know and and and also 426 00:29:54,020 --> 00:29:58,660 Uh, I was learning to identify people who potentially could be toxic or not 427 00:29:58,980 --> 00:30:02,260 And I hadn't really figured that out yet and I didn't have a tool like mocha 428 00:30:02,980 --> 00:30:06,820 And so when he showed up, this is his name is Stephen sender 429 00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:10,420 He's been a business partner of mine for 14 or 15 years now 430 00:30:10,420 --> 00:30:12,260 and um 431 00:30:12,260 --> 00:30:18,260 He basically said like we're gonna start focusing on that and you're gonna start saying no to assholes 432 00:30:18,740 --> 00:30:21,620 Whether they work for you or they're your customers 433 00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:25,780 And we went from a scenario where we had like 200 customers 434 00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:28,580 Uh to where we had 25 435 00:30:28,740 --> 00:30:33,780 But our revenue was twice as much as it was and I had six employees who were really stoked to be there 436 00:30:34,580 --> 00:30:38,340 You know, so um from a leadership standpoint 437 00:30:38,340 --> 00:30:43,140 I hadn't learned that saying no might be one of the most valuable things you can learn to do 438 00:30:43,620 --> 00:30:49,220 Because I was trying to do everything and right and I and I'm not good at everything, you know, so 439 00:30:49,860 --> 00:30:51,860 so focusing on 440 00:30:51,860 --> 00:30:57,540 Identifying my own strengths and it was helpful to have some feedback from somebody who's like I think I see you for who you really are 441 00:30:57,860 --> 00:30:59,060 right 442 00:30:59,060 --> 00:31:04,260 Exactly a lot of readers listening can benefit a lot for go ahead. You know, yeah, let me let you finish that 443 00:31:04,260 --> 00:31:11,300 You know, yeah, let me let you finish that well, I made changes to how I interact with my employees. I started um 444 00:31:11,940 --> 00:31:15,140 You know hiring people for not what they knew but who they were 445 00:31:15,940 --> 00:31:20,820 And by the time I started buying businesses like I bought an outdoor store with steven a while back 446 00:31:21,460 --> 00:31:23,460 um, you know, we were that's when I 447 00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:27,220 For that I had the other steven's name was loan of humane leadership 448 00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:33,700 I had incorporated mocha and humane leadership principles by the time we got to buying companies we could walk in and 449 00:31:34,260 --> 00:31:36,180 We could implement mocha 450 00:31:36,180 --> 00:31:41,540 And in the in the end you'd have people who really didn't belong there and not because they're not bad 451 00:31:41,700 --> 00:31:45,860 They're not because they're bad people but because maybe they'd been there for a long time 452 00:31:46,180 --> 00:31:48,980 They really wanted to move on but didn't really know how to do that 453 00:31:49,380 --> 00:31:53,860 They didn't know how to say no themselves and we gave them the opportunity to express 454 00:31:53,860 --> 00:31:59,940 What their motivation was for being there maybe what their motivation is for the next thing they wanted to do whether it was inside or company 455 00:31:59,940 --> 00:32:05,140 Or outside and if it was inside we would schedule them opportunity to do that 456 00:32:05,140 --> 00:32:10,260 And I have plenty of stories of giving people two hours a day to you know, do marketing or whatever 457 00:32:11,140 --> 00:32:15,140 Um, but it was my responsibility to give them the opportunity if they were motivated to do it 458 00:32:15,140 --> 00:32:17,700 It was also my responsibility to give them clarity 459 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:22,660 But it's also their responsibility to identify what they're good at for that ability 460 00:32:22,660 --> 00:32:26,580 Ask for the clarity if they don't have it give themselves the opportunity 461 00:32:27,060 --> 00:32:32,740 And and ask themselves if they're motivated and if they're not motivated my job is to help them get a job somewhere else 462 00:32:33,220 --> 00:32:35,220 Yes, and that's got to be okay 463 00:32:35,780 --> 00:32:42,180 Uh, and in the places that I now, you know am in charge of it's it's okay if somebody needs to move on 464 00:32:42,980 --> 00:32:46,180 I want I want them to be happy. That's the number one. Correct. Not 465 00:32:47,060 --> 00:32:49,060 I'll find somebody else to do that work 466 00:32:49,060 --> 00:32:56,420 I love that. Um, we we're i'm quickly becoming a fan of mocha. Um, you know myself we're gonna be um adopting that 467 00:32:56,420 --> 00:32:58,420 We'll give you credit every step of the way 468 00:32:58,660 --> 00:33:06,340 Um as we use it, um, because it aligns very well with our process of vision culture leadership and marketing and vision cultural leadership 469 00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:10,500 Uh, you know, we focus on the who and then we focus on the why 470 00:33:11,220 --> 00:33:16,180 Um, and really it sounds like mocha is a different way of saying that you got again motivation 471 00:33:16,180 --> 00:33:22,340 Um, you know, and I I like to define the who up front and i've defined that based on values because I want to be 472 00:33:22,580 --> 00:33:24,580 I don't want to plan a party with somebody. I don't 473 00:33:25,220 --> 00:33:31,940 Have a connection with yeah, um, you know, I want to plan that with somebody who's actually aligned really well with the things that I stand for 474 00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:35,140 And so i've also learned that maybe one of the other things I need to do 475 00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:41,140 Stephen cinder steven slone and steven rice is just make sure that I only hire people named jackson 476 00:33:41,140 --> 00:33:48,180 All the people who are willing to to change their names even? There we go. Oh well in this case. No, you're for mine 477 00:33:48,980 --> 00:33:50,980 Oh 478 00:33:51,780 --> 00:33:52,660 Um, so 479 00:33:52,660 --> 00:33:58,740 Oh, no, it's it's uh, it's uh, it's ironic but that is fun though as a jackson and there's not many out there 480 00:33:59,380 --> 00:34:03,380 Yeah, I always get a little more excited when I meet somebody who happens to be named jackson 481 00:34:03,380 --> 00:34:07,380 It's like there's there's something interesting about that. The same is true of twins 482 00:34:07,380 --> 00:34:12,420 I find that twins usually run into twins more often in the world and recognize that so that's 483 00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:15,380 I have identical twins and one of them's name is jackson 484 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,820 There we go, there's already like you more 485 00:34:19,860 --> 00:34:24,260 Easy play for there's a there's a tactic for all of you out there who are tactic searchers 486 00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:29,140 Um, right. So now let's let's talk about um, you know speaking of 487 00:34:29,860 --> 00:34:31,860 Does our humanity 488 00:34:32,180 --> 00:34:33,620 Impede 489 00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:34,820 Our lives 490 00:34:34,820 --> 00:34:38,340 I think we all know listening in deep in our hearts that it it can 491 00:34:38,980 --> 00:34:44,420 Right, but it can also amplify our leadership. So steve you're you're right up on 492 00:34:44,980 --> 00:34:48,340 The fact that let me go back to it real quick that 493 00:34:49,540 --> 00:34:54,820 Leading an organization or group at any level and being a human a human being is difficult 494 00:34:55,460 --> 00:34:57,460 But you also believe that it's not 495 00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:01,380 That hard. Um, right and then you can you can teach people that's where 496 00:35:01,380 --> 00:35:06,180 This inspired me to just think about humanity and impeding our leadership or where it doesn't 497 00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:11,060 We don't have a lot of time, but bless us with the time. We do have what does that mean to you? 498 00:35:11,060 --> 00:35:14,500 What should we be? How do we how do we embrace our humanity? 499 00:35:15,140 --> 00:35:18,660 In the best of ways, that's probably the question. I think I want to know the most 500 00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:24,820 You know the way I like to answer that is only do what is good for your granddaughter 501 00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:31,780 Oh, you know and and then by extension if your granddaughter is that important? 502 00:35:32,740 --> 00:35:35,300 Make sure you take care of everyone else's granddaughters 503 00:35:36,580 --> 00:35:38,580 And that's where the global peace comes in 504 00:35:39,300 --> 00:35:41,300 And when when we're talking about business 505 00:35:41,940 --> 00:35:45,140 I I get it, you know, it is hard to 506 00:35:45,940 --> 00:35:49,940 Do everything like we want to support our local real quick steve young bucks 507 00:35:49,940 --> 00:35:54,980 Out there the ones who don't have granddaughters like me write it down 508 00:35:55,220 --> 00:35:57,940 Do it anyway, you will have one one day 509 00:35:57,940 --> 00:36:03,220 And if you don't you can still project the reality of how important should that person be to you? 510 00:36:03,220 --> 00:36:06,900 Even if you're 16 years old and listen to this listening to this right now 511 00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:11,860 This rule still applies to you. He's not speaking to people who are 800 years old 512 00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:15,300 Yeah, well remember that your mom and all of you have one 513 00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:19,620 Is a granddaughter. Yeah, right keep going man. So 514 00:36:20,180 --> 00:36:21,700 So, you know 515 00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:26,260 Just to give some simple examples if you've got a manufacturing facility that's next to a river 516 00:36:26,260 --> 00:36:31,700 Your daughter lives downstream your granddaughter. You're not going to throw the you know 517 00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:37,300 Um the waste from your production facility into the river because you don't want to hurt that person 518 00:36:38,020 --> 00:36:40,820 By extension if you're hiring a customer 519 00:36:40,820 --> 00:36:44,820 To build your products or manufacture pieces of your products 520 00:36:44,820 --> 00:36:49,700 You should not allow them to dump their waste into a creek. That's 521 00:36:50,260 --> 00:36:56,820 Upstream from somebody else's granddaughter. It's sort of that simple. That's why I mean like yeah, it's hard, but it's not that hard 522 00:36:56,820 --> 00:36:57,940 right 523 00:36:57,940 --> 00:37:02,580 It's you won't always life's hard. I mean life's hard 524 00:37:02,580 --> 00:37:05,620 So whether you're 400 pounds or you're 4% 525 00:37:05,620 --> 00:37:11,940 Body fat life is still going to be hard. We just get to we but we do get to choose oftentimes 526 00:37:12,500 --> 00:37:14,100 Which heart we want 527 00:37:14,100 --> 00:37:15,540 Yep 528 00:37:15,540 --> 00:37:19,380 So I think that's the reality that you're talking about is it can be difficult or it can be hard 529 00:37:19,380 --> 00:37:22,100 But it's again, that's not really part of the equation 530 00:37:22,660 --> 00:37:26,740 The equation is what do we want out of this? So I love that you also said you didn't say 531 00:37:27,780 --> 00:37:29,780 Sometimes do what is good 532 00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:35,940 You know, you didn't say you you know strive to always you said only 533 00:37:36,740 --> 00:37:40,260 Do what is good and that simplifies our choices, right? 534 00:37:40,260 --> 00:37:45,300 If we're willing to step into that reality if it's like, okay, I'm only going to do what aligns my virtue 535 00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:51,700 And that eliminates the need to fuss for all of the the excess options that come our way 536 00:37:52,260 --> 00:37:53,460 That's brilliant 537 00:37:53,460 --> 00:37:55,460 Well, I think that's a great point 538 00:37:55,460 --> 00:38:00,020 I'm going to use the word accident, but I'm not sure that that's the right word 539 00:38:00,740 --> 00:38:01,860 that 540 00:38:01,860 --> 00:38:05,620 So many accidents that have happened that have been detrimental to the human race 541 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:06,500 Davis huge 542 00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:08,180 that we did 543 00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:10,020 and 544 00:38:10,020 --> 00:38:15,940 To give you the context of what i'm thinking of we used to use pcbs for everything in the united states 545 00:38:15,940 --> 00:38:18,340 I'm sure around the world. Maybe they're still being used 546 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,160 and fragile, and we almost wiped out condors. 547 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,960 That is an unmeasured externality 548 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,880 that we weren't thinking about, right? 549 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:48,040 And so I call it an accident 550 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,840 because we didn't know that was gonna happen. 551 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,220 What's a PCB, Steve? 552 00:38:52,140 --> 00:38:55,080 Polychloral something or other. 553 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,240 They were banned, I think in the seventies. 554 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,760 But we have a better example of that right now. 555 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,300 Have you heard of a PFAS? 556 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:04,860 No. 557 00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:07,240 Well, you've heard of a forever chemical, right? 558 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:09,460 No. 559 00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:10,300 No? 560 00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:11,140 Okay. 561 00:39:11,140 --> 00:39:12,040 I'm a layman. 562 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,360 I'm a layman. 563 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,540 Well, so we've all heard of Gore-Tex, I hope. 564 00:39:16,540 --> 00:39:21,000 Gore-Tex is a PTFE. 565 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,060 I think it's polytetrafluoroethylene laminate. 566 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,240 Teflon, the stuff that you are- 567 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:29,040 It was a thing, my friend. 568 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,560 So Teflon, there you go. 569 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:31,800 I heard of one of these. 570 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,920 But one of the challenges of us 571 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,080 for people who are intellectual is the curse of knowledge. 572 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:39,960 And the curse of knowledge, 573 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,600 a great study by Harvard about how 574 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,140 once we learn something, 575 00:39:44,140 --> 00:39:46,600 we begin to assume that it's common sense 576 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:47,980 and that everybody knows it. 577 00:39:47,980 --> 00:39:50,720 And so if I give a water bottle to a caveman, 578 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,720 he might stab the bottle to try to open it 579 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,180 versus the rest of us take for granted the twist top, right? 580 00:39:58,180 --> 00:39:59,880 But we had to learn that at some point. 581 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,720 So again, those of you who are listening in, 582 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:06,360 the beautiful nature of talking to somebody like Steve 583 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,600 is that he's got access to superpower realities 584 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:10,960 that at least I might- 585 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,800 Maybe all of you are like, 586 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,720 Jackson, what planet have you been on? 587 00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:17,620 And that's okay because I know, 588 00:40:17,620 --> 00:40:19,880 and for those of you who are in my position 589 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,440 where we're like, no, I don't know anything about this, 590 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,100 stay confident in who you are as a human being. 591 00:40:26,100 --> 00:40:28,040 Stay confident that you've done things with your life 592 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,400 that are just different than what Steve's done 593 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,680 and appreciate the fact that if you can dive 594 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,440 into this knowledge and understand the value of it 595 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:36,280 and why it matters to you, 596 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,480 you might be that much better at making a purposeful impact 597 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:40,300 in this world. 598 00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:43,400 So again, thanks for diving deep on this with me. 599 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:44,840 So Teflon, I know that one. 600 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:45,940 Yeah. 601 00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:48,200 Well, we all know Teflon has been used, 602 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,340 I think it was invented right after World War II. 603 00:40:50,340 --> 00:40:54,500 Turns out it is, what makes it amazing 604 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:56,400 is that it's one of the most durable materials 605 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:57,800 that we've ever invented. 606 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,480 That also means that it is impossible 607 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,440 for nature to break it down, 608 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120 which is why they're now calling it a forever chemical. 609 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,560 And it turns out that all the waterproof coats 610 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,600 that had been invented since Gore-Tex 611 00:41:10,540 --> 00:41:14,080 was started being used, all the Teflon materials, 612 00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,280 they all have, it's all PFAS. 613 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,140 And they're now in our bloodstream, 614 00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:21,440 they're in our lakes and our rivers. 615 00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,640 There are both scientific and anecdotal studies, 616 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:28,080 people going basically out into the mountains 617 00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,000 and pulling water out of a creek 618 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,840 that's coming off of a glacier at 11,000 feet. 619 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,080 And there's measurable PFAS in that water. 620 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:42,000 And so we're now realizing that not only is it everywhere, 621 00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:49,160 but we're putting more and more into, 622 00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,020 every time we wash our clothes, 623 00:41:51,020 --> 00:41:54,200 there's every durable water repellent material 624 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:59,080 that's ever been made almost has PFAS in it. 625 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,040 And that means we wash our clothes, 626 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:03,600 it goes into the sewage system, 627 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,700 it goes into the rivers and it goes into the ocean 628 00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:08,360 and then it comes back out. 629 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,320 Some of them are highly volatile 630 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,960 and they actually will evaporate into water particles, 631 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,160 which is how they end up on mountaintops. 632 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,760 That was a new finding of the last several years, I think. 633 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,760 But we know now that those things do a lot of damage 634 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,640 to kidneys and livers. 635 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,080 So much so that the, I think it's the USDA 636 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,600 or whoever would say this, 637 00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:33,080 says that there is no acceptable parts per million 638 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:35,160 of several of these types of chemicals 639 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:38,240 that should be allowed in anything that we have. 640 00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:40,800 Water, anything else. 641 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,620 Also say that is impossible to attain. 642 00:42:43,620 --> 00:42:45,120 So we're gonna choose, I think, 643 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:49,840 4.4 parts per trillion or something like that 644 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,180 is what they want. 645 00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:55,040 And there are a lot of water systems in the United States 646 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,600 that have five, six, seven, eight parts per trillion. 647 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:01,600 This is why I love YouTube influencers like MrBeast 648 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,600 and Mark Rober, right? 649 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,720 Who combined and joined forces. 650 00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:08,560 And they're cool enough and they're fun enough 651 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,800 to put on Jimmy Kimmel Live, for instance, 652 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,240 and talk about their project to kind of save the ocean 653 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:18,660 and draw some hype about this reality 654 00:43:18,660 --> 00:43:20,260 or these things like this exist. 655 00:43:20,260 --> 00:43:22,840 That's where I usually learn about stuff like this 656 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:27,080 is something that is considered kind of like young and dumb 657 00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:29,080 or just like entertainment value. 658 00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,640 But if we can combine and harmonize the strengths 659 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,160 of both of those worlds, 660 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:39,240 it is people like you combining with people like them 661 00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:42,960 that will lead us to find these amazing creative ways 662 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,480 to solve the bigger problem 663 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,640 and make sure that we are improving upon the planet 664 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,360 that we have, not just destroying it. 665 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,320 And that's what can be said leadership. 666 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,680 We need to solve some of the problems before we create them 667 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:57,840 is part of what I'm saying. 668 00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,040 Yes. 669 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,460 There's no way I'm gonna pretend 670 00:44:00,460 --> 00:44:02,960 that we can know everything in advance. 671 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,800 And I know that hindsight's 20-20. 672 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:06,760 That's not what I'm saying here. 673 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,680 But I am saying that we have an extractive international 674 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,640 global business model that takes 675 00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:19,520 like functionality trumps like long-term effects. 676 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,380 So Teflon is a good example. 677 00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:22,700 We found something that's amazing. 678 00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:23,780 It's super slippery. 679 00:44:23,780 --> 00:44:26,060 We're like, we can use it for the thousand things. 680 00:44:26,060 --> 00:44:27,440 For the visionaries listening in too though, 681 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,420 I think we have to apply this to their lives. 682 00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:33,340 A lot of them are in combustible materials 683 00:44:33,340 --> 00:44:34,820 or goods and products. 684 00:44:34,820 --> 00:44:37,300 A lot of them are in the world of leadership. 685 00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:38,940 And so when we take these same principles 686 00:44:38,940 --> 00:44:41,740 and we apply it and say, wait a second, 687 00:44:41,740 --> 00:44:44,980 let's learn to go against the norm. 688 00:44:46,980 --> 00:44:47,820 Excuse me. 689 00:44:47,820 --> 00:44:50,700 There's opportunities to say, you know what? 690 00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:51,740 How can we apply? 691 00:44:51,740 --> 00:44:56,500 And in our case, we're looking at how do we cultivate 692 00:44:56,500 --> 00:45:00,020 and inspire more love, patience, persistence, 693 00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:02,780 consistency and reliability in the workforce? 694 00:45:02,780 --> 00:45:04,480 How do we emulate that as leaders? 695 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,340 How do we help people feel connected to that love 696 00:45:07,340 --> 00:45:08,780 where we can create more balance 697 00:45:08,780 --> 00:45:10,720 and more appreciation for people in the workforce? 698 00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,700 How do we make sure that we create a full appreciation 699 00:45:13,700 --> 00:45:17,380 for family and for personal wellbeing within the workplace? 700 00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:19,500 Not outside of it, but also within. 701 00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:22,140 And how do we also bridge economic gaps 702 00:45:22,140 --> 00:45:26,060 that exist out there and create win-win solutions for people? 703 00:45:26,060 --> 00:45:27,820 All of that can be done, 704 00:45:27,820 --> 00:45:29,940 the same types of creative thinking 705 00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:32,380 and opportunities like MoCA. 706 00:45:32,380 --> 00:45:33,820 You're talking about motivating, 707 00:45:33,820 --> 00:45:35,840 like figuring out the motivation, the opportunities, 708 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:37,220 the clarity and the accountability. 709 00:45:37,220 --> 00:45:42,040 Like that's a framework that one can apply over and over 710 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,160 and over to different areas of life 711 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:49,160 and ultimately audit and evolve and create an even better life. 712 00:45:50,180 --> 00:45:53,780 So if this was one last question for you, Steve, 713 00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:57,000 this is my favorite question of the lineup. 714 00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,040 If this was your last chance to ever speak, 715 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,260 what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn 716 00:46:02,260 --> 00:46:03,380 from your experience? 717 00:46:04,260 --> 00:46:05,260 Oh man. 718 00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:09,940 Let me first give you kudos for like two 719 00:46:09,940 --> 00:46:14,940 of the maybe top five questions I've ever been asked. 720 00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:16,520 Boy, powerful visionaries. 721 00:46:17,980 --> 00:46:22,200 I'm gonna say the zero unmeasured externalities 722 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,520 as a non-arguable goal for everything. 723 00:46:27,620 --> 00:46:29,780 Because what we're saying is, 724 00:46:31,660 --> 00:46:34,340 if you're leading and you've got a company, 725 00:46:34,340 --> 00:46:37,440 you need to know what effect you're having downstream. 726 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,100 So an externality is actually not something I invented. 727 00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:43,620 It's a financial economic term that came out of that, 728 00:46:43,620 --> 00:46:47,060 started in the 1880s, but it was popularized in the 20s. 729 00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:50,540 And it's any effect to somebody who wasn't expecting 730 00:46:50,540 --> 00:46:54,180 that effect from your financial activities. 731 00:46:54,180 --> 00:46:56,640 And the person who invented it was thinking about banking, 732 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,660 but we now talk about it in all business things. 733 00:46:59,660 --> 00:47:02,320 So if you're dumping PCBs in the river 734 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,240 and all of a sudden the Eagles are dying, 735 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,800 that's an unintended consequence, that's an extra down. 736 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:10,660 So, but zero unmeasured externalities 737 00:47:10,660 --> 00:47:15,540 as a non-arguable goal, it's a very lofty idea. 738 00:47:15,540 --> 00:47:18,940 It doesn't say that we have to know everything, 739 00:47:18,940 --> 00:47:22,020 but it says that we should be striving for excellence 740 00:47:22,020 --> 00:47:24,220 at all times in all things. 741 00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:26,420 And you can use zero unmeasured externalities 742 00:47:26,420 --> 00:47:28,460 to drive an art department. 743 00:47:28,460 --> 00:47:32,420 You can drive production, you can drive manufacturing, 744 00:47:32,420 --> 00:47:34,020 you can drive your company, 745 00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:36,520 you can drive the finance department. 746 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,220 The finance department's job 747 00:47:38,220 --> 00:47:40,500 is to uncover all those externalities. 748 00:47:40,500 --> 00:47:43,060 Like just what are we paying for that we don't need? 749 00:47:43,060 --> 00:47:43,900 What are we getting? 750 00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:45,940 What are we, you know, all of that. 751 00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:47,700 We're actually doing this all the time. 752 00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:51,780 We just don't think about it in this codified way. 753 00:47:51,780 --> 00:47:56,140 And if you combine zero unmeasured externalities with MoCA 754 00:47:56,140 --> 00:47:58,920 to help have those conversations about accountability, 755 00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:02,540 which is supported by zero unmeasured externalities, 756 00:48:02,540 --> 00:48:04,180 and then approach everything 757 00:48:04,180 --> 00:48:06,760 from sort of an agile project management, 758 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:08,360 continuous improvement, 759 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,060 those three things, you can change the world. 760 00:48:11,060 --> 00:48:12,400 You can change your company, 761 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,600 you can change everybody in it, 762 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:14,420 and you can change the world. 763 00:48:14,420 --> 00:48:16,760 And it doesn't matter if you're conservative, 764 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,300 it doesn't matter if you're liberal, 765 00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:20,440 it doesn't matter if you're left, right, green, 766 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,000 white, red, orange, gray. 767 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:24,540 I love it. 768 00:48:24,540 --> 00:48:25,880 Those of you listening in, 769 00:48:27,140 --> 00:48:28,980 there's a lot of dictionary terms 770 00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:31,280 that for the first time I heard this, 771 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,820 man, I didn't quite get it. 772 00:48:32,820 --> 00:48:34,340 I needed to better understand. 773 00:48:34,340 --> 00:48:37,480 So if codified, right, is not up your alley, 774 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,180 agile is not up your alley, 775 00:48:40,180 --> 00:48:44,660 you know, what I hope that you catch is the intensity, 776 00:48:44,660 --> 00:48:49,000 the passion, the compassion that Steve speaks with. 777 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,760 You know, we're talking about making sure 778 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,100 that life on earth is protected. 779 00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:54,340 We're talking about making sure 780 00:48:54,340 --> 00:48:56,880 that people have better relationships. 781 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,740 And we will struggle to understand 782 00:48:59,740 --> 00:49:02,740 how to embrace our relationships 783 00:49:02,740 --> 00:49:06,080 and how to maximize them if we don't pay attention 784 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,720 to our opportunity to gain more knowledge, 785 00:49:09,720 --> 00:49:11,980 because knowledge can be liberating 786 00:49:11,980 --> 00:49:13,160 if we use it appropriately. 787 00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,860 And so this idea of externalities, 788 00:49:15,860 --> 00:49:17,520 it's still something that is foreign to me. 789 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:19,120 And maybe all of you guys listening 790 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,120 are laughing at me like, 791 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,900 Jackson, how are you not getting this? 792 00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:23,700 And that's okay. 793 00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:26,960 But if you're in my boat where these terms 794 00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:30,680 are just a little bit outside 795 00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,740 of your ability to play with it, 796 00:49:33,740 --> 00:49:35,540 you know, maybe I'm used to Play-Doh 797 00:49:35,540 --> 00:49:38,840 and this kind of feels like playing with cement, 798 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,320 you know, and like trying to pull together 799 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:42,920 something that is much bigger than I'm used to. 800 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,880 My hope is that you go back just a couple seconds, 801 00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,120 click the double click to go backwards, 802 00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,600 gather those words that you don't understand, 803 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:51,960 pump them into Google, 804 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,660 ask friends or family members what they mean, 805 00:49:54,660 --> 00:49:57,540 because I don't think Steve is speaking hyperbolically. 806 00:49:57,540 --> 00:49:59,060 In fact, I can tell that he's not 807 00:49:59,060 --> 00:50:02,200 when he says this can change the world, 808 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,540 you know, and change our lives. 809 00:50:03,540 --> 00:50:07,640 So it's very important that we strive to do our part 810 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,940 in understanding what that looks like. 811 00:50:09,940 --> 00:50:11,280 Those of you who want to know more, 812 00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,620 of course, in the action steps below the show notes, 813 00:50:13,620 --> 00:50:16,280 we'll have how to connect with Steve 814 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,420 and the Globally Conscious Leader Community. 815 00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:20,260 We'll also have below that the resources 816 00:50:20,260 --> 00:50:21,460 that we mentioned today. 817 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:24,260 And if you have any comments, 818 00:50:24,260 --> 00:50:28,020 anything that you'd like to give back to this discussion 819 00:50:28,020 --> 00:50:29,860 or add to it, by all means, jump in, 820 00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:31,840 we'd be grateful to hear from you. 821 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:33,940 And of course, if you want to be a guest on this show 822 00:50:33,940 --> 00:50:35,040 in the top right corner, 823 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,240 you'll see a button up there that says, be our guest. 824 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:40,840 You don't have to be the most cerebral person on earth 825 00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:41,680 to be on the show. 826 00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,680 You might be a stay at home parent. 827 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,520 And you think that's the most important vision 828 00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:46,880 we can hear about? 829 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:48,980 Personally, I couldn't agree more. 830 00:50:48,980 --> 00:50:50,620 You know, at the same time, 831 00:50:50,620 --> 00:50:52,720 if you are the Elon Musk's of the world, 832 00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:55,260 if you are Ken Blanchard, Sheldon Bowles, 833 00:50:55,260 --> 00:50:57,600 people like that, come and join us in the show too. 834 00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,400 There's plenty we can learn from each other. 835 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,220 And we look forward to seeing you all in the next episode. 836 00:51:01,220 --> 00:51:02,920 Steve, this was fantastic. 837 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:03,760 Thanks for being here today. 838 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:04,600 Thank you, Jackson. 839 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,920 It's been an honor and a pleasure. 840 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:06,880 Appreciate it. 841 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,880 Absolutely. Let's get you back in the future. 842 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,580 Oh, it would be a lot of fun to dive even deeper. 843 00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:13,160 So everybody have a great day 844 00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:14,160 and we'll see you on the next episode. 845 00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,460 Thank you for being here today. 846 00:51:15,460 --> 00:51:17,960 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 847 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,600 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions 848 00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,880 as these episodes continue to move forward. 849 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,600 This is gonna get more and more fun. 850 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,400 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 851 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,480 We'll invite people to participate in the show 852 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,840 and thank you for giving us your time and attention. 853 00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:57,160 Have an excellent time building out your vision.