What is the best leadership experience you've had?
Wow.
Cool.
Well, I would say I do a lot of work in photography and I teach
photography.
So that journey has been amazing to be able to be in front of eight to
10 people every couple of weeks and teach concepts and technical aspects
that can be a little bit tricky to get your head around.
And lead a group for four hours through that journey of understanding
from zero to quite strong understanding of photography skills and
tactics and techniques.
So that's been a really great experience of trying to understand how
to teach people complicated, almost scientific knowledge in a really
simple way.
So that journey of teaching photography has been a great journey for me.
My whole podcasting journey has been a great leadership experience because
I'm always continuing to learn and grow and ask better questions and
lead myself down that journey of becoming a better podcaster and a
podcast host.
And what else?
Where else do I lead?
Yeah, so I think it's really all those different things that I do when I'm in
front of a group and I'm trying to convey information.
For me, that's a form of leadership because I'm trying to explain things
in the most simple way and useful and valuable way I can.
And that's a real challenge that I've really enjoyed.
The second side of this story, Darren, and that side, it might take some
time to think about it if you need to, is the experiences you've had with
other leaders that you thought, oh, my gosh, they are great leaders and what
made them great leaders?
Yeah, well, I mean, I'm always I'm always amazed by whenever I start in
any field or in any area, I absolutely am a layman and I know nothing and I'm
totally green.
And then I look at the people that I learn from and I'm saying, wow, these
guys are amazing.
I really look up to them.
Guys and girls are amazing.
They look up to them.
They learn so much.
They know so much.
They're so talented in how they convey information.
And then as I start to go down that journey and learn more and then maybe start
teaching some of that myself to other people, I start to realize, OK, cool, I
understand what it feels like when you're doing it from the other side.
And it's just a game of time.
Like when you're starting out, you know nothing and you think everybody else is
way ahead of the journey than you.
And you look up to them and I still look up to those people, but I realize that a
lot of it is just time.
And the more you do something, the better and the more you try something, then you
start to build that capability and that competence and the confidence.
And then you look back at your journey and you say, wow, OK, I'm kind of there as
well.
And you're teaching other people.
So the thing that I've learned really is to just give it time and realize that
everybody's on their own journey and their own point in that continuum.
And that's all we're all just learning from each other at different points in
our journey.