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Tell me about your vision.

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Oh, thanks so much, Harry.

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Yeah, so my vision is to really transform the way

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we look at men's health.

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OK, so background, I have experience

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as a recovering board certified urologist, I like to say.

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I spent 25 years focused on men's health and performance

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in the traditional health care world.

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And as a urologist, I ran a very busy practice

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doing robotic surgery every day in the hospital

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and treating prostate cancer, kidney stones, and bladder

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problems, you name it.

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But what I found was missing was the focus

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and the understanding of what men need to truly optimize

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their health, to have the energy they're looking for,

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to have the focus to be able to perform at work,

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the drive to be able to really pursue daily activities,

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the ability to stay focused and present for their family

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when they get home after a long day at work,

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their ability to perform in the bedroom.

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Men are wanting to burn fat and build muscle

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and have better sex and live longer,

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and all these great aspects of quality of life.

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But our health care system is so focused

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on simply treating disease and stamping out problems.

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And so the urology, the men's health world is all about,

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wait till there's a problem, and you come on in

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to see your doctor, and they're going to give you a diagnosis,

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and then here's the drug to treat it.

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Diagnosis, drug, diagnosis, drug.

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And that's where I believe that we really

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need to shift our focus when it comes

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to peak performance, when men want to function

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at a higher level, and our health care system

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is failing in that regard.

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So my vision is to really innovate and reimagine

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how we approach men's health.

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What is your why it gets you out of bed

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to do this every morning?

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Yeah, my why is my kids, Harry.

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When I wake up, I get up at six every morning,

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and I do some heart variability measurements,

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and I do some planning for the day, preparing.

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But then I get to sit on the couch with my kids,

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and just some snuggle time with them,

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and you get to just talk about what the day

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is going to look like, and just enjoy that time with them.

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At the end of the day, I make time for dinner with them.

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We all sit down as a family together,

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and I'm there with them.

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And then what so many entrepreneurs struggle with

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is work-life balance, and knowing when to turn off

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that race car that's running in the red all day.

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And so when I get home at night, it's all about my kids

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and my wife, and being present, and being the father

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that my kids need, being the husband that my wife needs,

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and really recognizing that there needs to be

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that balance in life.

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And so my why is really my family here,

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and that's everything.

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That's awesome.

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Too many people are focused on one aspect of their life,

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and for a lot of us, it's very hard to balance

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the family and business relationship at the same time,

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and health included in it.

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I was just saying when I was in college,

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if you have good grades, either you have bad sleep

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or no relationships, or if you have a good relationship,

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you either have bad grades or no sleep,

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and you have to sacrifice one or the other.

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That's true, that's true.

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It's very interesting to see, yeah, go ahead.

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It takes being really strategic about it.

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It takes recognizing that you can have it all

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if you structure your life, structure the way it needs to be

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and recognizing what are the big rocks.

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I talk about with my clients what's most important,

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and everything has to wrap around that.

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You brought up sleep.

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Those seven, seven and a half hours of sleep

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that you get every day, every night,

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are the absolute foundation of everything else.

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You have to have that first.

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You can work backwards by whenever you gotta get up

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in the morning, you can count back seven and a half hours.

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That's when you need to be asleep,

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which means you need to be in bed half an hour before that.

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So that's your give it eight hours window of sleep time

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that's non-negotiable.

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You're gonna have time that you're gonna devote

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to your family.

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That time is non-negotiable,

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and then everything else you gotta do

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has to be within that other block of time.

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how can I be more efficient in that time that I have

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to get done what needs to get done.

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That's, thank you for sharing that.

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That's very insightful, turning back

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from what's more important, you mentioned your rock,

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and taking that from, tracing back from what you're doing.

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I wanna go to talk about your practice

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and things you do with aging and urologist

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and all the things that you do.

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How did you get started into all this?

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Yeah, so I was about halfway through my urology career.

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I didn't know at the time that I was halfway through,

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but I hit a wall.

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This was about 12 years ago now.

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I hit a wall 14 years ago now.

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Hit a wall with my own health.

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I was very overweight.

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I had a lot of stress.

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I wasn't sleeping well, wasn't taking care of myself,

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and I was doing all the wrong things

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because I was so focused on my career,

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on my patients, my practice.

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I was in the hospital every night doing surgery.

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And I went for my first physical exam ever at the age of 40.

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And holy cow, that was a real eye-opening experience

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when I came face to face with no mortality

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and saw numbers don't lie.

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And I saw how bad my cholesterol numbers were,

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my liver, my kidney numbers, and my weight.

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and I realized that I didn't even have the answers myself

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and that as a urologist,

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I was this men's health expert, in air quotes,

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but I realized that I didn't really have the answers

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that I needed for myself

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nor any other man who walked in my practice.

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And so that got me to start studying

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and going back to school.

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And I spent about eight years going back to school,

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getting certifications and going through courses

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and learning functional medicine and learning epigenetics,

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which is the science of how our lifestyle

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and our environment affect how our body works.

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Learning hormones the right way.

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Never really realized it.

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Never really learned them in residency somehow.

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in medical school or residency.

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that's coming at us every day.

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How can we use those tools to track things like blood sugar

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and sleep and stress?

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You can actually measure this stuff,

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track body composition.

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And how do I put all these pieces together

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into a cohesive approach, if you will,

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to help myself to get back in shape,

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to really turn my health around for the sake of my family

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that was up and coming at the time.

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And that changed everything for me.

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Harry, I was able to turn my health around.

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I lost 30 pounds that I was overweight.

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My kidney function recovered.

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My lipids came way down.

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I had a renewed energy and sense of focus

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and drive and passion.

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And honestly, I fell in love with medicine again,

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because for a while there,

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I was getting just very frustrated and disillusioned

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with urology, with men's health.

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And I felt...

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I think you muted yourself.

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Yeah, I can unmute you from here.

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No, I can't.

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You're muted.

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You might've hit some button somewhere.

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I still can't hear you.

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Yeah, there it is.

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Yeah, there it is.

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Yeah, I don't know why, just automatically somehow...

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I'm so sorry, man.

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That's totally happened.

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So, I found a new...

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I'll go back a few steps for you.

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I found this renewed passion for medicine that I had lost.

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I fell in love with medicine again.

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I really found my passion for medicine.

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I found my passion for medicine.

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I really found my passion, my purpose.

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As I recovered myself,

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I realized this is what I was meant to do.

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And so, I started sharing this with my patients

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in my urology practice.

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And they would lose weight.

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They'd regain energy and focus and drive.

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And they would tell me how they felt like men again.

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And I realized that was onto something.

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And so, I did what every insane person does.

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very busy urology practice to start over.

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And so, I launched the Gap Institute

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where I can focus on helping high-performing men

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optimize their health and have the energy and focus

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and drive that they want and that they need.

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Knowing that that's gonna affect how they show up every day

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for their kids, for their family, for their community,

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for their business, in every other aspect of their life.

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And that's really become my passion and purpose now.

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And I tell you, Harry, I love what I do.

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And the results that we're seeing now

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is transformational.

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And that's what medicine's supposed to be.

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That's what it's supposed to be all about.

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It's not supposed to be just treating disease

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and problems and symptoms.

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So, tell me more about that.

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Tell me more about the Gap Institute

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and what exactly do you guys come in and do.

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And what gaps are filled.

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Yeah, so I created a peak launch system,

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which is a four-step process for helping men identify

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and solve those issues, those, I call them blind spots

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in your health that are holding you back, really.

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this is so important.

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Guy Bob Harper.

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Bob Harper is the head fitness trainer on the TV show

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The Biggest Loser.

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You may not have ever seen the show,

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but he's this very fit guy.

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He looks the part.

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He looks like the epitome of good health.

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He's teaching guys, men, and women how to get in shape

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and lose weight.

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And at the age of 51, Bob Harper had a heart attack

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that almost killed him.

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He was not healthy.

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He was not healthy.

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thinking that they're doing fine, thinking, yeah, I'm okay

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because my primary care doctor did a few blood tests

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and told me I'm okay.

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And my response is, excuse my language,

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bullshit, you're not okay.

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You need to identify some blind spots that may be lurking

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under the surface waiting to cause a problem.

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My brother-in-law, John, he was this larger-than-life guy.

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in great shape.

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Age of 49, my brother-in-law, John, dropped dead one day.

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And so these stories point out that we need to identify

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what are the issues with our health

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that may be holding us back or may be lurking

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under the surface.

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And so that's where the peak launch system comes from.

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It starts with diagnostics, which means it starts

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with doing advanced blood testing to find

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what are some basic key issues that need to be addressed.

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inflammation, gut health.

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These are things that most traditional medical doctors

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don't ever look at.

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These are things that I learned along the way

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through this additional training that I found

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that they never teach in medical school.

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And it requires taking a much more extensive perspective.

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So diagnostics is the first step.

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Number two is deep dive.

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And deep dive is where you have to look beyond

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just the blood testing.

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And this is where most doctors stop.

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They do a basic lab panel, CBC, basic metabolic profile,

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look at a few other markers, cholesterol panel,

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and tell you you're fine or you're not fine.

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What we do is we look at things like your microbiome,

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which is the gut, basically the balance of microbes

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in your gut.

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And remarkably, they control everything.

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The microbiome, this milieu of bacteria and viruses,

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not the organism in our gut, controls our immune system,

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controls our neurotransmitters in our brain,

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controls blood sugar, controls hormones,

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actually tied to longevity.

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And so we know that the microbiome is massively important,

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but yet most doctors don't ever look at it

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and don't even know what to do with it.

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I have a couple of great colleagues of mine,

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they're actually gastroenterologists.

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They do colonoscopies and upper endoscopies all day.

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And I was talking to one of my buddies about this stuff.

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He's like, how'd you learn this stuff?

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I have no idea because they don't teach even GI doctors

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this stuff.

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They just teach them how to look for colon cancers

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and peptic ulcers, stomach ulcers.

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So looking at the microbiome is critically important.

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Looking at things like cortisol.

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Cortisol is our stress hormone.

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And cortisol is very important.

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We need it for our body to function properly.

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But when there is an imbalance in cortisol levels,

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then it can wreak havoc on our whole body.

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And most guys will never admit that they're stressed.

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That's okay.

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Cortisol doesn't lie.

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And when you're a race car in the red all day,

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like most entrepreneurs, it will affect cortisol,

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which then affects other hormones.

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It affects your ability to build muscle,

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your ability to burn fat, your ability to get in shape

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and maintain cardiovascular health.

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And so we can measure this kind of stuff.

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We look at advanced imaging.

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We look at advanced cardiovascular testing

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and markers that look at cardiovascular risk.

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There's something called a coronary calcium score,

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which is a CAT scan that can look at the calcifications

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in the blood vessels of your heart.

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And then there's a special type of angiogram

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that can actually look at the blood flow to your heart

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that is incredibly valued for normal guys like you and me.

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And it can assess your risk of cardiovascular disease

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10, 20, 30, 40 years before you have an event.

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Wouldn't you want to know if you're at risk

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that you could do something to prevent it

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rather than wait until you have a heart attack?

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And that's what it is.

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It's being proactive and preventive.

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And it's being personalized,

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understanding that every one of us is different.

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So going back to Bob Harper,

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who almost died at age of 51 from a heart attack,

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he had very high levels of LP little a.

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LP little a is a type of LDL

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that most doctors don't ever check.

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And that was his risk factor

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that if he would have gotten that checked,

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if he would have had a calcium score,

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he would have picked this stuff up ahead of time.

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So that's deep dive.

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It's to go much deeper than traditional medicine can ever do.

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And then design is the third step.

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Design is where we create a personalized blueprint

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for our clients that includes things like,

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what the hell should you eat?

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And most doctors don't ever get taught.

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We don't ever learn anything about nutrition.

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And so I have functional medicine trained health coaches

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who work with our clients to tell you,

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what the hell do I eat?

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What do I not eat?

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How much do I eat?

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Macronutrients, protein, fasting, carb cycling,

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all these key parts of nutrition that are so important.

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And it's not just what my doctor told me 12 years ago,

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just go eat vegetables and exercise.

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It takes a lot more than that.

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And so we create a blueprint around nutrition and fitness

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and supplementation and hormones.

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And this is where we tie in some really cool

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cutting edge things like peptides.

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We can use stem cells

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and we can use all kinds of cutting edge tools

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like, you know, sauna, red light cryo, PEMF,

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all these other additional tools are ways to augment

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our approach with everything else we're doing.

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And then data, you know, the fourth step,

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and then I'll quit talking.

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I know this has been a long answer to your question.

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The fourth step is data where we use wearable technology

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to actually track outcomes,

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to actually measure if what we're doing is working or not.

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And I like to say one size fails all

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because what works for some guys does not work for others.

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And so we use wearable data tracking

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to look at blood sugar and sleep and stress

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and body composition, et cetera,

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to really understand what's working.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

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as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is gonna get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.