1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,400 I made it up that way. 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:04,640 We did the Route 1. 3 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,440 I had a 6-month-old, a 2-year-old, a 4-year-old. 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:15,440 We hit Disneyland in the entire Route 1, ended up just crossing into the very southern border 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:25,960 of Oregon and went on a hike and found like blackberry bushes and just ate everyone that 6 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:26,960 we could. 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:28,220 It was such an awesome opportunity. 8 00:00:28,220 --> 00:00:34,940 So I have a very, very fond memory of Oregon, even though we were probably 2 miles across 9 00:00:34,940 --> 00:00:35,940 the border. 10 00:00:35,940 --> 00:00:36,940 What am I missing in Portland? 11 00:00:36,940 --> 00:00:37,940 What do I need to go see? 12 00:00:37,940 --> 00:00:40,480 You know, it's a beautiful city. 13 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:42,200 There's lots of good restaurants. 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,240 We're close to the mountains, close to the ocean, just beautiful country. 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,240 You got to come check it out. 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,240 Yes, definitely. 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:50,240 For sure, Jeff. 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:54,560 I imagine that that's scary too. 19 00:00:54,560 --> 00:01:00,440 It's impactful from an environment standpoint, right, when you're trying to get centered 20 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,120 and meditate and things like that. 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:09,840 I find it easier in places like that than in New Mexico and the barren wastelands of 22 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,760 New Mexico, maybe because I'm sick of seeing it. 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,640 But is there an element of truth to that? 24 00:01:16,640 --> 00:01:22,160 Does environment enhance our ability to lock in and meditate or is that just an excuse 25 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,440 we make us human beings? 26 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:27,680 You know, definitely being out in nature is very helpful. 27 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:32,720 You know, being in the distractions of the city where you have all these people, stimulants 28 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:38,520 going on and the sounds going on, it's nice to be out in a peaceful place. 29 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:45,320 And something about having all the live trees and the running waters is very peaceful and 30 00:01:45,320 --> 00:01:46,880 soothing as well. 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:47,880 Huge. 32 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,120 Yeah, well, thank you, because I agree. 33 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:54,160 It's again, it's harder in the desert than it is for me. 34 00:01:54,160 --> 00:02:00,880 I mean, I've seen Rodney, you know, in his Grand Canyon meditations, but there's for 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:08,840 me the trees, the beach, you know, they bring something different to my soul that I don't 36 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,280 get in other environments. 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,600 So we'd love to know from you listening in, what environments do you find most conducive 38 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:22,360 to healthier, happier, more balanced lifestyles and meditation, which we'll probably talk 39 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,360 about quite a bit. 40 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,960 Jeff, what's your favorite environment to meditate in? 41 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:34,680 You know, for me, it's just the consistent pattern of doing the practice. 42 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,080 I enjoy it pretty much wherever I'm at. 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:41,040 It's always nice to be out in nature where we're out of the city. 44 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:45,400 I live on the outskirts of the city on a little over seven acres. 45 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:46,640 I've no neighbors around. 46 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:48,040 It's pretty quiet out there. 47 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,560 So on nice days, I like just opening up all the doors in the house and having the fresh 48 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:56,400 air blow in and and doing my morning practice there. 49 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,400 It's pretty nice. 50 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:58,400 That's awesome. 51 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:03,040 There's I think there's something about home too, right? 52 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,020 It's you know, at least there should be. 53 00:03:05,020 --> 00:03:09,520 We need to do sometimes we need to make changes to our home environment in order to create 54 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:10,520 that. 55 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,960 But that's one of the most profound feelings is when your home is safe and not when you 56 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:20,760 create a haven for yourself and then to be able to center yourself on the present and 57 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,560 enjoy that. 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,400 There's there's a rewarding flow that comes from it. 59 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,200 Now I'm I'm no expert in this regard. 60 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:34,640 There's there's it's probably actually not fair to say this is not my focal point in 61 00:03:34,640 --> 00:03:35,640 life. 62 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:45,800 And while I'm 36 years old or 36 and 363 days old, you have been practicing the art of 63 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:54,040 meditation and getting people centered for 36 years. 64 00:03:54,040 --> 00:04:00,880 What if you could give us the gift of one superpower and that experience, what would 65 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:07,300 it be and what three resources would you also recommend for entrepreneurs, visionary leaders 66 00:04:07,300 --> 00:04:11,800 out there that have helped you along your journey? 67 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:17,200 When it comes to meditation, I think for a new student or even somebody who's been introduced 68 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,520 to the practice before but maybe doesn't have a lifestyle in the practice yet. 69 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,840 I have three things that I always tell people. 70 00:04:25,840 --> 00:04:31,640 And if you follow these three things, you will be successful with the practice and it'll 71 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,080 help you get where you're looking to go on the shortest possible path. 72 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:42,200 And the first one is why are you drawn to the practice? 73 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,320 This is what gives you your energy and your spark and your ability to kind of have that 74 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,400 drive on those days when you don't want to do the practice. 75 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:55,360 And when I say why, you know, I'm thinking about maybe for you, it's you want to stay 76 00:04:55,360 --> 00:05:00,440 healthy into your later years so you can watch your grandkids grow up or stay mobile and 77 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:06,160 active into your later years or maybe you have a stress disorder or you're dealing with 78 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:11,180 anxiety or panic attacks and you want to learn how to overcome that practice. 79 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:15,800 Or maybe you're an athlete and you want to learn how to improve your performance with 80 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:16,800 the practice. 81 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,160 All of these things can be done with the practice. 82 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:26,120 But don't just think about, you know, hey, I want to improve my performance on the field. 83 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,040 Think about how is that going to affect my life? 84 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:34,120 And how am I going to feel if I don't do that and really have some depth in that why? 85 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:39,000 Because we all face this, you know, maybe it's tomorrow, next week or next month, your 86 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,360 alarm's going to go off and you're going to be, ah, I'll do my practice tomorrow. 87 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:48,280 You know, and if you have that strong why and that energy to get up and do it, now you 88 00:05:48,280 --> 00:05:53,720 start looking forward to the practice and thinking, I get to do this, not it's something 89 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,140 that I have to do. 90 00:05:55,140 --> 00:06:00,300 And when you can make that mind set shift, you really start to see a lot of benefits 91 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:02,620 and start to live the practice. 92 00:06:02,620 --> 00:06:06,940 The second thing is the importance of consistency. 93 00:06:06,940 --> 00:06:12,040 You know, the Dalai Lama once said that everybody should meditate for 20 minutes a day unless 94 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,520 you're too busy, then you should meditate for an hour. 95 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:22,920 And I love that saying in that it's just so important to have this be part of your life. 96 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,600 You know, meditation was meant to be a way of life, not a hobby that we do once in a 97 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:29,160 while. 98 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:35,200 And if, say for example, you're dealing with a stress disorder, you can't say, ah, I'm 99 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,040 having a panic attack, it's time to go meditate. 100 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:44,280 You have to integrate these things into your life so you start recognizing these imbalances 101 00:06:44,280 --> 00:06:48,000 and now you can do something about it with the practice. 102 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,880 It's not a pill you can take after the fact. 103 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:57,560 And if you start to understand this and integrate this consistency into your day to day life, 104 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,280 you know, that's where you really start to see a lot of change. 105 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:06,700 And then lastly, the third thing is you need to find a guide. 106 00:07:06,700 --> 00:07:10,680 You know, if you think that you're going to be self-taught in the meditative arts, you're 107 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,940 going to spend years and years and sometimes spending off into directions that aren't going 108 00:07:15,940 --> 00:07:17,560 to help you at all. 109 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:23,160 You know, I've been studying now for 36 years and I'm still learning all the time. 110 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:27,000 I'm just a student nowhere near being the master. 111 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:33,380 And you know, I've had students that come into the academy here that have been self-taught 112 00:07:33,380 --> 00:07:37,280 and they've been training 10, 15, 20 years even. 113 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,540 And sometimes they'll see somebody who's had a guide that's been here at the academy for 114 00:07:41,540 --> 00:07:46,840 six or 12 months and they're further along in their practice because they've had a focused 115 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,520 approach to get to where they need to go. 116 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,740 And so, you know, life is short. 117 00:07:51,740 --> 00:07:53,320 Your time is valuable. 118 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:58,120 It's easy to find somebody to help point you in the right direction and keep you focused. 119 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:03,460 So if you do those three things and you stay consistent with that, meditation will be one 120 00:08:03,460 --> 00:08:06,520 of the best things you've ever done for yourself. 121 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,720 Whoa, that's a lot of value. 122 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:16,560 I'm going to add to some of what you said because one, you were a little bit soft on 123 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,440 that last one, the finding a guide. 124 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,440 And I appreciate that. 125 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,040 You said you can find yourself spinning off. 126 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:27,880 And one of the things I loved about what you said about being too busy is you said, I'm 127 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,440 having a panic attack now. 128 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:30,760 I need to go meditate now. 129 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:31,760 That's like too late. 130 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,320 You know, that principle of how it can hurt. 131 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:41,040 You also talked about the why and the why nots, the consequences of inaction. 132 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:47,600 If you don't know how to meditate and you can do wrong practices that lead to worse 133 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:50,200 possibilities and outcomes. 134 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,680 And I think that's important for people to recognize. 135 00:08:52,680 --> 00:08:54,400 But I want to circle back to one thing you said. 136 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,240 You said you're not the master. 137 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,480 You said you're still learning, right? 138 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,840 But you also talked about finding a guide. 139 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,920 And so the mind kind of says, well, wait a second. 140 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,320 Don't I need to find a master to be the guide? 141 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,800 So talk to me about the difference in those two phrases or the terminologies according 142 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,080 to your definitions. 143 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:23,080 So you know, I've spent the last 36 years of my life traveling around the world and 144 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:31,120 I've met some really amazing meditation teachers and I've learned a lot from some really great 145 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:32,120 people. 146 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:37,280 You know, a lot of times people will say that, you know, they tried meditation and it just 147 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:38,360 didn't work for them. 148 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,880 They couldn't quiet their mind. 149 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:46,720 And somewhere along the way, people got this misconception that in order to benefit from 150 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:51,920 meditation, you have to be in this blissful state of nirvana and nothing bothers you. 151 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:56,680 And, you know, training with all of these amazing teachers from all over the world, 152 00:09:56,680 --> 00:10:00,640 I have never met one that doesn't get distracted. 153 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:01,640 We all do. 154 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,200 It's part of life. 155 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:05,660 You know, it's just who we are as human beings. 156 00:10:05,660 --> 00:10:17,920 And so I don't feel like you're ever really the master, no matter how much you put into 157 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:18,920 this practice. 158 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,240 You know, like I said, you know, it's not just a hobby I've been doing for 36 years. 159 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,000 This has been my profession. 160 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:30,240 I live this for I've been living this for a long time. 161 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:35,800 And it's such a deep practice that I'm always growing and I'm always learning. 162 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,600 I feel like I'm more a student now than I was 20 years ago. 163 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:46,880 And I think having that depth of knowledge is helpful for somebody newer coming to the 164 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:47,880 practice. 165 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:54,160 And, you know, your goal is finding a guide is finding somebody who has a lot more depth 166 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:59,280 and knowledge and can point you on the direction and help you not make all the mistakes that 167 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:00,280 they did. 168 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:04,240 You know, for me, coming along through the years through the last 36 years, I've made 169 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,120 a lot of mistakes, but there weren't bad. 170 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:12,800 They were something that helped me find more focus and be more beneficial to my students 171 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:18,680 because I feel like if I hadn't made some of those mistakes, I wouldn't be able to stop 172 00:11:18,680 --> 00:11:20,800 my students from making those mistakes. 173 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:28,000 And so if you have somebody that has more time and that can help point you in the direction, 174 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,600 you know, you can save yourself many years of time. 175 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:36,960 You know, I wish that, you know, 36 years ago, I would have had access to a place like 176 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,400 I'm offering here in Portland because it would have been amazing. 177 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,600 You know, I wouldn't have had to do so much searching. 178 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,720 Exactly. 179 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,560 And that is one of the neat things about your program. 180 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:53,000 I do love the way that you have your website built out. 181 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:59,040 And, you know, we'll take a look at the website, the YouTube channel that you have, the depth 182 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,000 of what you're offering is. 183 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,920 I hosted a number of people who are in the healing space, you know, and who are in the 184 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:11,400 meditation space and creating a balanced life. 185 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,960 But you can you can usually tell the difference, not always, but you can usually tell in 2024 186 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,960 who's got a masterful depth. 187 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,600 I know I use the word that we don't like. 188 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:27,400 But who's got that dedication of decades behind what they've done based on the materials they 189 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:28,400 have? 190 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:32,360 So as we as we get ready to explore what that looks like, the reason why I think this is 191 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,000 so important is finding a guide. 192 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,080 It's so much easier to do in other industries. 193 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:39,080 Right. 194 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:45,720 If I need somebody's help for for a medical emergency for my kids, then I can go to my 195 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,240 doctor who's going to refer me to a specialist who's going to refer me to another specialist 196 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:50,240 who's going to refer me to a specialist. 197 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:51,240 Right. 198 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,880 So it's a creative command that exists. 199 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,080 And if we need a heart surgeon, they're going to guide us to that heart surgeon. 200 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,080 Right. 201 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:01,120 If I need a lawyer that I can go to pretty much any law office and they'll tell me, you 202 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,760 know what, this isn't my practice. 203 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,440 This is who you're looking for. 204 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,920 And then thanks to Yelp reviews and beyond, I can find that. 205 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:16,800 But when it comes to Reiki meditation, you know, being the warrior, spirituality, prayer, 206 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:24,240 religion, et cetera, all of that kind of gets meshed in to a lump sum situation. 207 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:29,880 And I'm going to put a little AI AI guide together related to finding a guide. 208 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:36,880 But my question for you, too, Jeff, is if people are looking for that type of support, 209 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:44,040 what are the expert level questions that beginners don't know to ask themselves? 210 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,680 And maybe just one or two questions that can help put us in the right direction. 211 00:13:47,680 --> 00:13:52,000 As though I'm coming to you or at least I'm coming to some, I don't know, somebody who 212 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:56,800 loves meditation out there and I'm like, Hey, where do I go to find a guide? 213 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:01,560 What questions would help that person figure out who they who they should be going to? 214 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:09,960 Well, you know, unfortunately, that's a little bit tough these days because of the access 215 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,960 to all of the information that's out there. 216 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:19,060 You know, when I was coming up, there wasn't YouTube, there wasn't all these resources. 217 00:14:19,060 --> 00:14:25,360 So I couldn't go out and watch 100 different videos and pretend like I know 100 different 218 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:26,360 things. 219 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,880 I had to go out and see construction. 220 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:33,760 And when I found something and I had a teacher that gave me something, I treated it like 221 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,440 it was gold and I pounded it into the ground and I did it every day. 222 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,520 And I really tried to see where this was coming from. 223 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:47,000 Whereas today what happens is, is you get a lot of people that will go out there and 224 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:51,800 they'll see this practice and this practice and this one and they'll, you know, they'll 225 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:56,520 be 30 years old and they're doing 100 different things and they're acting like they're the 226 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:57,840 master of everything. 227 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:00,360 And not, you know, 30 is great. 228 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:06,400 I'm not saying anything about the age group, but you can't do this many things in such 229 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,160 a short amount of time and have it with any quality. 230 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:16,840 And so, you know, part of what you want to do is, you know, how long has somebody been 231 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,060 invested? 232 00:15:18,060 --> 00:15:21,480 How many students have they helped? 233 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,000 What is their philosophy behind the practice? 234 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:29,720 You know, I truly believe that if anybody follows one stringent practice, I think I 235 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,600 would steer clear of that. 236 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:38,000 I think that having an understanding of the science behind the practice and understanding 237 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,720 how to build an evolving life practice with meditation. 238 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,480 And when I talk about the meditative arts, I'm not talking about sitting and just breathing 239 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,480 and trying to quiet your mind. 240 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:55,080 I'm talking about movement practices like Tai Chi, Qi Gong, yoga, sitting meditation, 241 00:15:55,080 --> 00:16:01,400 standing meditation, breath work, all of these things that incorporate the meditative arts. 242 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:08,060 So you can learn how to build an evolving life practice around your lifestyle to help 243 00:16:08,060 --> 00:16:13,640 point you in any one direction that you want to get from practicing meditation. 244 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:20,680 Now in the meditative arts, I have broken it down into kind of five paths that you can 245 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,200 follow. 246 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:28,480 And there is the athletic or the combat side of the practice that helps with your physical 247 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:33,320 performance and your awareness, your timing and your ability to be more in tune with the 248 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:34,520 body. 249 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:39,840 There's the therapeutic side of the practice that is great for keeping your body healthy 250 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:43,520 and flexible and strong and working through injuries. 251 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:45,360 There's the medical side of the practice. 252 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:50,800 You know, all of Chinese medicine is based off a Qi Gong theory, which is a very deep 253 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,800 meditative practice. 254 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:58,600 Then there is the philosophical side of the training and then lastly, the meditative and 255 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,440 spiritual side of the training, which is what most people think about when they hear the 256 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,280 word meditation. 257 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,880 Now as I've been fortunate enough to have so many students come through the academy 258 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:15,880 over the years, people come for any one of those five reasons or maybe a combination 259 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,920 of a couple of them. 260 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:23,520 And you're not going to follow the same path if you're looking to get into the spiritual 261 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:28,960 side of the practice as if you were going to go into the athletic side of the practice. 262 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:35,640 Now there's some fundamental principles that will be the same, but your overall daily routines, 263 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:41,620 your rituals, your active practices, your philosophical practices will adjust depending 264 00:17:41,620 --> 00:17:44,320 on what you're looking to accomplish. 265 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:51,040 And so having somebody that really understands the layout of what the meditative arts have 266 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:56,480 to offer and help you kind of narrow in and focus on practices that will help get you 267 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,540 to where you want to go. 268 00:17:58,540 --> 00:18:03,360 That is the kind of questions that I would be asking. 269 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:07,680 I want to make a joke because it's podcasts, but at the same time, I want to respect the 270 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:10,960 sacred nature of what you just mapped out for us. 271 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:11,960 That was beautiful. 272 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:14,260 It was amazing. 273 00:18:14,260 --> 00:18:20,040 You've already unlocked the doors for me in about seven different ways that I can already 274 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,120 see the opportunity to explore. 275 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:29,600 And my map for meditation and maximizing meditation is now that much clearer thanks to these pathways 276 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:30,960 too that you just created. 277 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,200 It makes it that much easier for me to benefit from. 278 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,880 So I want to thank you for that. 279 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:40,940 My favorite thing that you said in the beginning, I had a feeling this was going to stay true 280 00:18:40,940 --> 00:18:45,240 throughout the whole explanation that I think most people won't catch. 281 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,040 And I'm really grateful that I did. 282 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,080 So I'll circle back to that. 283 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:55,780 You said most people have not arrived to meditation as a lifestyle yet. 284 00:18:55,780 --> 00:19:01,920 So there's a really big golden nugget right there for all of you listening in. 285 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:07,760 There's perhaps a lot of wisdom in moving towards understanding that instead of using 286 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:13,320 it as an insecure or as an app to get you out of a stressful situation, perhaps there's 287 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,680 extreme wisdom in adopting this as a lifestyle. 288 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:17,680 We'll come back. 289 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,680 We'll talk about a healthier, happier and more balanced lifestyle. 290 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:27,040 I hope in the meantime that everybody that's listening in takes a chance to start really 291 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:33,920 understanding where in your life are you at and how do you apply some of the principles 292 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:39,360 that Jeff just shared with us because you guys can do this on your own. 293 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:44,480 And my hope is that you also use it to find a guide and maybe Jeff is that guide for all 294 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:45,480 of us. 295 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:46,480 We'll see you guys on the other side. 296 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:50,920 We'll dive into Jeff's vision at large when we come back to Vision Pros Live. 297 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:51,920 All right. 298 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:55,040 Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Callum. 299 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:56,040 I'm your show host. 300 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,760 We will be doing interviews for visionary entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building 301 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:11,800 fantastic visions out there. 302 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:12,800 All right. 303 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,640 Welcome into another episode of Vision Pros Live. 304 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,080 I'm your show host, Jackson Callum, founder and CEO of First Class Business. 305 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:28,500 And I am, oh man, in reverence, happy at peace with the reality that we had Jeff Patterson 306 00:20:28,500 --> 00:20:30,000 on stage today. 307 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:34,400 He's been practicing the art of meditation as a career, as a focal point of his life 308 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,480 for 36 years. 309 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,720 And the guy resonates that exact reality. 310 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:45,120 So again, we'll be diving into building a healthier life, becoming happier, creating 311 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:46,120 more balance. 312 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:50,800 Now I know the word balance is under attack right now in the market because people love 313 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:55,900 to use words as buzzwords and then spin it for the sake of an article. 314 00:20:55,900 --> 00:21:00,560 But I'm a huge fan of understanding that what balance is. 315 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:06,040 I find that people who will turn their back on a virtue just because it's a fad to do 316 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:10,880 so aren't as centered as well as those who recognize that words aren't evil. 317 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:14,480 The way we sometimes utilize them or misconstrue them can be. 318 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,560 So have an open mind. 319 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,800 That's my hope for you, is that you will take a look at the rich, good side of what we're 320 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:22,720 going to be talking about today. 321 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:27,400 And before we bring Jeff on stage, a couple of resources that are important to us and 322 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,000 that I love being a part of. 323 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:36,240 One of them is the Hard to Kill Network, hardtokill.org with Dave Morrow, who's got a show, a podcast 324 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,760 titled the same. 325 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,080 Dave's helping 100,000 veterans lose 2 million pounds collectively right now. 326 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:48,560 He's about to run the 30 the Lean Challenge, a 30 day program to help you maximize your 327 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,360 health, lose weight, get into great shape. 328 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:57,540 He's expanded this program to citizens or rather, I should say civilians and not just 329 00:21:57,540 --> 00:21:59,080 military personnel. 330 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:03,120 I finally got myself into shape and got past my mental blocks. 331 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:06,160 I've been doing 125 pushups per day. 332 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,760 That's after eight years of successfully avoiding every health guru on the planet and keeping 333 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,240 myself skinny fat. 334 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,560 Dave somehow got me motivated. 335 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,160 So again, we're going to be helping 100,000 veterans lose 2 million pounds collectively 336 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:23,280 and we have a free community to go join and check out what it is that he's up to and how 337 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,280 he's leading this cause. 338 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,320 Then there's Opranales de Trabajo para Latinos. 339 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:29,320 What did I just say? 340 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,680 It's opportunities for work for Latinos. 341 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:36,400 We've also now got opportunities for Indians and we've got opportunities for the Philippines. 342 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:42,360 And what this is, it's our free program to help Latinos and the rest of the world learn 343 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:46,220 how to become what you call virtual assistants. 344 00:22:46,220 --> 00:22:50,440 The sad reality is I see a lot of business owners out there, a lot of well-meaning entrepreneurs 345 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:55,840 hire a VA and because they've never been trained in the process of working with team members, 346 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,720 what happens 99% of the time, yes, that means you're likely guilty of doing this, is the 347 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,620 business owner ends up practicing what I call virtual abuse. 348 00:23:04,620 --> 00:23:05,620 You got to care about your people. 349 00:23:05,620 --> 00:23:06,620 You got to take care of them. 350 00:23:06,620 --> 00:23:07,620 You got to train them. 351 00:23:07,620 --> 00:23:11,800 You got to help them be successful so they can provide the types of results that you 352 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,240 want and this program is dedicated to helping do that. 353 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:20,720 Luis and Cynthia run the podcast as well for opportunities and we're looking to bridge 354 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,560 the economic gap between North America, South America and the rest of the world. 355 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,560 So if you're interested in taking a look at that, please do. 356 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,160 If you are a Latino leader, then come and join us on that show. 357 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,080 You never know how many people you'll inspire to get in the game and say, you know what? 358 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,960 This is a pretty cool program. 359 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:40,160 Most of the world does not even know that LinkedIn exists, my friends. 360 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,320 They don't know that Canva, Upwork, Fiverr exists. 361 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,720 We're creating awareness for that so that they can level their lives up and we hope 362 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,880 you join us in that process. 363 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:50,000 Then there's the water project. 364 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,920 The water project we have no affiliation with. 365 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,680 I just chose to pay attention to it. 366 00:23:55,680 --> 00:24:00,280 When I saw it, it didn't emotionally hit me because I've never been thirsty in my life. 367 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,320 But as I started to meditate on this and realized and took walks and thought about it, thought 368 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:10,000 through, man, what would it be like if my kids like this kid were digging into a dirty 369 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:15,000 water hole in order to get the water they're going to drink or cook with that night or 370 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:16,640 bathe themselves with? 371 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,960 I decided, you know what? 372 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,080 I want to talk more about this. 373 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,960 I want to help people understand the value of what's out there. 374 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,640 My hope is you join me on this cause. 375 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,640 Spread the word. 376 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:25,640 You don't have to donate anything. 377 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:26,640 You don't have to give it back. 378 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,960 If you're not in a position to do so, then just share it with somebody who you think 379 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:35,240 or talk about it over a dinner conversation with friends and family. 380 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,800 We have 8 billion people to help in this world. 381 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,840 This is just one way to do so. 382 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,320 If you know of other opportunities out there to help, then do me a favor. 383 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,320 Comment with those opportunities. 384 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,280 We'll be happy to take a look at it. 385 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:50,720 What strikes me the most about this website is this picture of these kids celebrating 386 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:56,480 water with the same energy or more than my kids celebrate Christmas Day. 387 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:57,480 That's a humbling thought. 388 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,560 So again, let's use those humbling thoughts to drive us and motivate us to do more good 389 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:05,320 in the world, not to fall and sink into despair. 390 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:06,720 They can get happy about that over water. 391 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,680 I'm sure you and I can get happy about things we have in life and move our lives forward. 392 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,000 So if we can help on that, fantastic. 393 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,080 And without further ado, let me do my best to help you by bringing Jeff Patterson back 394 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,240 on and diving into his vision. 395 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,480 Jeff, welcome back to Vision Pros Live. 396 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:24,360 Hey, thank you. 397 00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:26,300 Yeah, absolutely. 398 00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:30,160 So Jeff, we're going to be diving in healthier, happier, more balanced lifestyle a little 399 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,160 bit further. 400 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:40,880 Before we do, though, I guess I want to dive into what's your vision for those that you 401 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,880 serve? 402 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:46,280 What do you see them accomplishing, escaping, getting to? 403 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:51,120 I'll let you go whichever direction you want with that. 404 00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:57,900 So in the last 30 years of running my academy here, I've been fortunate to have a lot of 405 00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:03,120 students come in, and some of them are practicing the external arts like Brazilian Jiu Jitsu 406 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,120 or Muay Thai. 407 00:26:04,120 --> 00:26:10,120 And as a teacher, it's always been fun to bring a student up in one of those practices 408 00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:14,820 and have them do well in competition and go out and kind of see them grow and become a 409 00:26:14,820 --> 00:26:17,440 better person because of it. 410 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:24,760 The meditative arts, however, you don't have that competitive side, but you have some amazing 411 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,840 life changes that come from the practice. 412 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:33,720 I've had people that come in here that are suffering with stress disorders, thinking 413 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:39,240 about killing themselves, having health issues and illnesses that they're working through, 414 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,400 injuries that they're working through. 415 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:47,280 And I've heard so many life-changing stories that come with the practice. 416 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:54,120 And because of that and hearing those hundreds of stories, that's what's made me so passionate 417 00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:57,840 about really wanting to spread the word. 418 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,700 That's why I've written my last couple of books. 419 00:26:59,700 --> 00:27:02,400 That's why I created my online program. 420 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,480 The website that you mentioned earlier, that is solely for this purpose. 421 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,240 It has nothing to do with my academy here. 422 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:15,280 All of that has been created to try to get this message out and to get more people into 423 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,480 learning how to build an evolving life practice with meditation. 424 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:25,000 And a lot of people think they don't have time and it's not like you need to retire 425 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,040 to a cave and meditate for the rest of your life. 426 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:33,400 It's easy to integrate these practices into your lifestyle. 427 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:39,440 If you could do a simple ritual practice every day, even if it's only 20 minutes, and integrate 428 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,560 some active practices. 429 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:47,520 And active practices are great because you can do them in as little as 60 seconds or 430 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,800 two minutes. 431 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:54,360 And they're just a way to stay and keep that awareness available as we go through the day 432 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:59,280 and help develop a higher level of sensitivity in all that we're doing. 433 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:06,960 And that's part of what the meditative arts is about is we expand our ability to notice 434 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,760 these shifts and these changes because our awareness is heightened. 435 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,400 Our sensitivity is more in tune. 436 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:21,400 And that allows us to have a say, if you will, in how our energetic, mental, and emotional 437 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:27,200 expressions appear in the world. 438 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:32,480 It's well set and it's neat that you've created a balance, like a harmonic balance. 439 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:33,480 And I can hear it in your tone. 440 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:40,680 I can hear it in your cadence of not necessarily a separation between what you provide virtually 441 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:48,280 and what you provide in person, but you have definitely either done your research or you 442 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:49,280 got lucky. 443 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:54,880 Well, you know, whatever people want to define it as, the structure of your website is extremely 444 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,720 intentional and it creates that zen feeling. 445 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:02,440 The content that you've put out there really helps people understand the value of what 446 00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:03,560 you do. 447 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:10,600 As somebody who deals with mostly online entities, I say that because most websites do not. 448 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:17,320 It's a giant mass of verbal vomit that usually drives people away from an experience and 449 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:22,520 makes it very hard to capture the essence and value of the person you're talking to 450 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,920 because they just kind of slapped everything onto a page, many, many, many different styles 451 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:28,920 and times. 452 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:35,160 So for the business owners, the visionaries out there, what type of dedication did you 453 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:44,920 put into creating the harmonic digital presence of what you offer or did it just come naturally 454 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:48,040 and was it just an overnight success? 455 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:53,560 First, I'm not a website designer and I did not design this. 456 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:59,240 However, I helped create the message and the content of the site. 457 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,040 I had a great team that helped me design the site and that's nothing that I can take credit 458 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:05,320 for. 459 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,000 Well, sure it is. 460 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,120 You couldn't have done it. 461 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,400 They couldn't have done it without your vision. 462 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:16,840 So you chose to hire a team and I'm going to steamroll you on that because they literally, 463 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,840 if they had done that without you, it would have never reflected you and your program. 464 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:26,700 But on the flip side, you had to appreciate the reality that you weren't a website designer. 465 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:30,160 You had to get your ego out of the way knowing that you could have used Wix or you could 466 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,720 have used Squarespace. 467 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,800 And here's why I hit that, Jeff. 468 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,280 Ninety-six percent of business owners are failing within 10 years. 469 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,360 Four percent are surviving. 470 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,440 They're not thriving. 471 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,240 They're getting their butt kicked every day. 472 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,880 In business, they just happen to have a higher pain tolerance than the 96 percent who gave 473 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,040 up. 474 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,680 And then out of those four percent, there's a few people who really kick butt at it. 475 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:58,280 And so I want to honor the visionaries who kind of like you did with meditation where 476 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,720 you're like, hey, look, if you're just looking for an instant cure to your anxiety, it ain't 477 00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,720 going to work. 478 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,400 If you're just looking to slap together a website, it ain't going to work. 479 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,200 You've got to be able to look at it from a more holistic standpoint the way you just 480 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,040 talked about and kind of downplayed. 481 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:22,000 But you use some very big wisdom principles to put that together. 482 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,520 I think most people won't hear that if I don't draw attention to it. 483 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,840 So keep going, please. 484 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,240 Well, thank you. 485 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:35,720 So I think part of when you start talking about meditation, that I think it's something 486 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,360 that's really valuable for your listeners to understand. 487 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:45,080 If you are taking on a meditation practice, it doesn't matter what it is, whether it's 488 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:50,240 Tai Chi, Qigong, sitting meditation, standing meditation, yoga. 489 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:55,560 There's some underlying principles that you need to cultivate that are the foundation 490 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,560 of any practice, no matter what path you follow. 491 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,040 And I call these the five regulations. 492 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:07,000 And I think that it's worth it to have a basic understanding of these if you're drawn to 493 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,400 the meditative practice. 494 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,560 And they are regulating the body, regulating the breath, regulating the mind, regulating 495 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,280 the energy, and regulating the spirit. 496 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,900 And briefly, I'll kind of talk about what I mean in those five directions. 497 00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:28,920 The first, regulating the body, is the easiest one to see an immediate response from. 498 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,980 And an example would be, think about a time where maybe you're sitting down at your computer 499 00:32:34,980 --> 00:32:38,680 and you've been there for three or four hours and your shoulders are rounded forward and 500 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,080 you're feeling lethargic and maybe your neck's getting sore. 501 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:46,580 And then another time when the most important person in your world walks in the room and 502 00:32:46,580 --> 00:32:49,960 your body perks up and you feel like you're on top of the world. 503 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:55,920 Well, 100% of the time, we're in control of this energetic expression. 504 00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:01,840 Now, this is a basic idea and it comes from our skeletal alignment, our muscular tension 505 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:05,260 and learning how to be aware and control these things. 506 00:33:05,260 --> 00:33:10,840 And then on a little bit of a deeper level in regulating the body, we have exercises 507 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:17,480 and things that we do to maintain a certain amount of muscle in the body so we stay healthy, 508 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:22,800 a certain amount of flexibility, making sure that we get enough sleep and our diet is healthy 509 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,640 so we're bringing good nutrients into the body and our energy level is good. 510 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,840 Then we have regulating the breath. 511 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,600 Regulating the breath is an extremely deep topic and it's something that if you take 512 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,240 on a meditation practice, you'll be studying for the rest of your life. 513 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:46,020 And in fact, in Qigong, they often refer to it as the science of the breath because there's 514 00:33:46,020 --> 00:33:52,160 literally hundreds of different breathing strategies that they do in the practice. 515 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:58,220 Now, since there's so many of these different breathing strategies, we kind of broadly categorize 516 00:33:58,220 --> 00:34:01,440 them into yin methods and yang methods. 517 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,280 Yin methods are often deeper, more holistic style meditations. 518 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:11,320 And what I mean by that is if you ever listen to somebody sleep, their natural breathing 519 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:15,680 pattern is a longer inhale and a shorter exhale. 520 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,720 And this is the body's natural way of bringing your conscious mind into your subconscious 521 00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:24,560 mind, which is where we are when we're sleeping and dreaming. 522 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:30,240 And so if we want to emulate this style of energetic work in our meditations, we can 523 00:34:30,240 --> 00:34:36,280 do longer inhales, soft retentions at the end of the inhale, shorter exhales to help bring 524 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:43,680 that energy inward, which is great for reducing stress, dealing with anxiety, with panic attacks, 525 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,720 with boosting our creativity. 526 00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:51,280 There's a lot of reasons why we would do this yin side of the practice. 527 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,720 Then we have the yang side of the practice. 528 00:34:53,720 --> 00:34:56,840 The yang side is more aggressive. 529 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:02,680 It's kind of like if you ever had to push your car or you pick up something heavy, your 530 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:07,000 natural instinct is to use tension in the breath, maybe make the breath audible and 531 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:08,840 exhale with power. 532 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:15,560 Now when we start understanding how to use the breath as a strategy, and in Chinese philosophy 533 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,760 they call this balancing the con and li or the water and fire. 534 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:26,280 Now when we're going through the day with emotional ups and downs and we see ourselves 535 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,320 start to get a little bit excited, we can use the yin side of the breath to help bring 536 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:31,320 us back down. 537 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,080 And we see ourselves starting to feel depleted. 538 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:37,220 We can use the yang side to help bring us back up. 539 00:35:37,220 --> 00:35:42,280 And now we can find more balance and consistency throughout the day. 540 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,880 Everybody goes through the day with these emotional ups and downs. 541 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,820 Some people are like a roller coaster, others may be a little more balanced. 542 00:35:48,820 --> 00:35:53,220 But understanding how to use this is a real valuable tool. 543 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:55,760 And then we have regulating the mind. 544 00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:01,680 And we already kind of touched on this a little bit while when you get distracted, say for 545 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:06,800 example you're doing a sitting practice for 20 minutes and you get distracted 50 times 546 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,800 during that session. 547 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:14,920 Every time you get distracted, you recognize the imbalance, you use the posture, your breath, 548 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:19,200 your movement, if it's a movement practice to help bring you back to focus. 549 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:25,160 And now you just got 50 repetitions of how to recognize a distraction, be off center 550 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,700 and bring yourself back to focus. 551 00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:29,400 So this is not a bad thing. 552 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,240 This is a good thing that you're being in tune and aware of this. 553 00:36:33,240 --> 00:36:39,180 You know, there's this story that I really enjoy about these two older monks and they're 554 00:36:39,180 --> 00:36:45,580 walking down this dirt road after a big rainstorm and everything's muddy, it's a mess everywhere. 555 00:36:45,580 --> 00:36:48,240 They come up to this huge mud puddle. 556 00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:51,440 And on the other side of the puddle is this beautiful little girl standing there in a 557 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,820 white dress and she's crying. 558 00:36:53,820 --> 00:36:58,320 And the older monkey yells across the puddle and says, is everything okay? 559 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,680 Can we help you? 560 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:03,200 And she says, I need to be somewhere, but if I walk across this puddle, I'm going to 561 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,000 get my dress all dirty. 562 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:09,000 So the older monkey rolls up his pant legs and he walks across the puddle and picks her 563 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,640 up, puts her on his back and takes her to the other side and sets her down and she's 564 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,560 off on her way. 565 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:18,600 Well him and the younger monk are walking a couple miles down the road. 566 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,240 And finally, the younger monk is just furious and he says, you know, we're not supposed 567 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:26,760 to touch girls, but yet you did back there at the puddle. 568 00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,520 And the older monk looks down and says, you're still thinking about that girl. 569 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,880 I left her back there at the puddle. 570 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:39,900 And how many times in life do we have to get two miles down the muddy road before we realize 571 00:37:39,900 --> 00:37:41,240 we got to let that go? 572 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:43,600 We got to change our focus. 573 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:49,120 And so when we learn how to recognize these imbalances and be more in tune, it's a lot 574 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:54,380 easier to make those adjustments before they waste 10 minutes, an hour, two weeks, whatever 575 00:37:54,380 --> 00:37:56,160 that is for you. 576 00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,060 And then the fourth regulation is regulating the energy. 577 00:38:00,060 --> 00:38:04,240 And this is an extremely deep topic and something that we could talk about for the next couple 578 00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:05,480 hours. 579 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:13,380 But briefly, an understanding of it would be if you have reached a competent level in 580 00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:20,120 regulating the body, the breath and the mind, you now have the tools to circulate and lead 581 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:21,560 the energy in the body. 582 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,240 And that's kind of the basics of what I mean when I say that. 583 00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:27,880 And then the last one is regulating the spirit. 584 00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,360 And regulating the spirit is very profound. 585 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:36,760 And it's something that meditation masters and monks will spend their entire life working 586 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:40,120 towards reaching that ultimate stage of enlightenment. 587 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,920 And with these five basic regulations, you can see that as we start cultivating these 588 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:53,760 areas, it influences everything we do in life and really starts to build a strong foundation 589 00:38:53,760 --> 00:39:00,720 that can bring a lot of positive energy in anything we do. 590 00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:06,600 I just want to marinate on that. 591 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:13,040 We're not going to go into the typical questions that I go into in the show today. 592 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:16,600 I am going to skip to one though that I don't want to accidentally miss the opportunity 593 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:22,640 for because the things you've already shared, Jeff, it's just, yeah. 594 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:23,800 I've learned a lot today. 595 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,640 I might circle back to one of these new things that I just learned. 596 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:32,680 When you talked about imagining your favorite person walking in, I got some really important 597 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,680 insight for me. 598 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,560 But I hope others, again, have had this experience that have been really listening with their 599 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:41,760 heart and mind, their soul, as you said, their spirit, their energy, their mind, their breath 600 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:48,520 and their body throughout this conversation because you've delivered so much value. 601 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:53,600 To try to box you in a little bit, if this was the last chance you had to share a powerful 602 00:39:53,600 --> 00:40:06,640 lesson with the world, what powerful lesson can other visionaries learn from your experience? 603 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:12,760 I'm really passionate about a philosophical concept called yielding. 604 00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:16,240 As you noticed, the name of my website and my most recent book is called The Yielding 605 00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:17,440 Warrior. 606 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:25,760 I think mentioning a little bit about that would be of value to your listeners. 607 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,920 Yielding is something that's been around for generations. 608 00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,120 It's used in the meditative arts, the martial arts. 609 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,340 In my most recent book, I break it down into three pillars. 610 00:40:35,340 --> 00:40:40,400 We have physical yielding, mental yielding and emotional yielding. 611 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:46,600 Physical yielding is the idea that I push you, you push me, whoever's the bigger, stronger 612 00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:51,480 person with the most leverage eventually is going to push the other person over. 613 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:56,120 But with yielding, instead of us seeing who the bigger meathead is, when you push me, 614 00:40:56,120 --> 00:41:00,280 I get out of the way of that force and now I can respond with less effort. 615 00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:05,280 I'm not trying to butt heads with you and see if I'm bigger and stronger than you. 616 00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:10,720 In athletics, it's obvious how this is beneficial because many times we're coming up against 617 00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:15,080 other athletes that are bigger and stronger than us and if we try to butt heads with them, 618 00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,080 we're going to lose. 619 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:21,640 And so in order to be good at physical yielding, we need to be well-rooted. 620 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,640 The lower part of our body needs to be strong and flexible so we can change our central 621 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,920 equilibrium without getting tight. 622 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,760 The body has to be relaxed. 623 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,640 The breath has to be calm and the mind has to be present. 624 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:39,680 Now while it may take a lifetime to master these skills, from day one by integrating 625 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:46,440 a meditative practice into your life, you start to recognize these things inside yourself 626 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,880 and become more in tune and more aware of these things. 627 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,720 Also, you start to see these things more clearly in other people and this is where it starts 628 00:41:54,720 --> 00:42:02,440 to become very interesting because now, say for example, you and I are having a conversation 629 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,020 and by the way, we're moving into what I call mental yielding now. 630 00:42:06,020 --> 00:42:11,440 If you and I are having a conversation and I say something that unsettles you and I pick 631 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:17,260 up on it right from that first sign of imbalance, it's a lot easier to adjust the conversation 632 00:42:17,260 --> 00:42:22,380 and keep us in a happy place than if I'm not paying attention to that and pretty soon I'm 633 00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:25,540 so far off track, you want to slap me upside the head. 634 00:42:25,540 --> 00:42:32,120 And so learning how to use yielding in all of our interactions is extremely powerful. 635 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:37,080 One, we're just being more considerate which is something I think everybody could do more 636 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:44,200 of and two, it allows us to be strategic in all of our interactions which is great for 637 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,400 relationships, for business, for sales, for negotiations. 638 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:53,800 I mean anything you do, having this higher sense of awareness can really be beneficial. 639 00:42:53,800 --> 00:43:00,960 And then lastly, we have what I call emotional yielding and emotional yielding is very much 640 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:05,920 like mental yielding but it's with our own interpersonal conflicts. 641 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:10,480 So you think about when something happens, oftentimes we'll respond and we'll go down 642 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:16,240 this path and we might get an hour, a day, a week down that road and realize maybe that 643 00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,280 wasn't the best choice. 644 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:24,360 But by having the skills that meditation gives us and being able to stay more present and 645 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:30,200 more aware and more in tune when these imbalances happen, oftentimes we're able to sit back 646 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,800 and analyze the scenario and make a more educated decision that saves us a lot of heartache 647 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,800 on the other side. 648 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:41,400 I've been explaining this idea of yielding now for over 30 years. 649 00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,360 I've been running this academy for 30 years. 650 00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:45,440 I can't believe it's been that long. 651 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:51,600 But a lot of times people will tell me, ah, that makes a lot of sense. 652 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:54,380 In fact, I use yielding all the time. 653 00:43:54,380 --> 00:43:59,400 And while I would agree, I think everybody does some degree of yielding all the time, 654 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,800 whether they recognize it or not. 655 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,460 It's kind of like, you know, if you or I were to walk into a crime scene with a detective 656 00:44:06,460 --> 00:44:11,460 who's been on the job for 30 years, I guarantee you that person would see things about the 657 00:44:11,460 --> 00:44:16,640 series of events and the timeline that I know at least I would have no clue of. 658 00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:22,700 And the meditative arts helps us see things inside of ourselves and inside of other people 659 00:44:22,700 --> 00:44:29,840 that I truly believe without a meditation practice you will never have any clue of. 660 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,400 Powerful, powerful opportunities. 661 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:39,040 I read this book called Tribal Leadership, and it's one of those business books that 662 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:43,280 most people ignore and never get to because it's a little bit heavier. 663 00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:50,960 I read the first 50 pages of that book and I had to pause and meditate and consider what 664 00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:55,920 I was learning for the better part of a year because it was just so powerful and there 665 00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,520 was so much to grasp and there was life has all sorts of opportunities. 666 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,640 So this would be an experience that you could deem as rookie yielding. 667 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:11,680 Me going in and the reason why I'm mentioning that is because I'm going to be doing the 668 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,740 same thing with Jeff Patterson. 669 00:45:15,740 --> 00:45:18,640 What I have learned today, the amount that you have. 670 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:23,960 I named this title, titled the show, A Healthier, Happier, More Balanced Lifestyle with Jeff 671 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:32,840 Patterson and Jackson Callum because of the amount of life coaches and experts in this 672 00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:40,640 space that I have to share the stage with in order to make sure that they deliver, that 673 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:46,140 we deliver an amazing show for my guests. 674 00:45:46,140 --> 00:45:49,460 Today I could have left myself off, no problem. 675 00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:51,040 This was absolutely phenomenal, Jeff. 676 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,680 You've given us so much wisdom. 677 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,640 To circle back to my last question, I'm so happy I get to ask this. 678 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,240 It's like that moment where you've got the open questions and answers and you've got 679 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:03,240 to wait for everybody else. 680 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:04,240 No, I don't have to wait. 681 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:05,240 I'm the only guy. 682 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:08,600 So I get to ask my questions. 683 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:14,960 So as soon as you talked about imagining your favorite person walk in, I was like, I have 684 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,960 four. 685 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:20,360 I haven't thought of all my kids and how the energy they bring. 686 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:25,720 And then I realized like each child of mine brings a different energy or I bring a different 687 00:46:25,720 --> 00:46:28,760 energy out too when I meet those children. 688 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,120 But you said something that rings so true. 689 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:40,760 I have 100% control over showing up that way for my life, for different areas of my life. 690 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:46,880 And it reminded me of a spiritual concept that is incredibly important to me as well, 691 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:54,000 which was also met with a new challenge of, so Jeff, if I could dig deep into that well, 692 00:46:54,000 --> 00:47:02,880 if I were to show up with that type of energy that I have towards my children or towards 693 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,840 my spiritual master mentor, in my case, that would be Jesus Christ. 694 00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:14,560 If I were to show up that way 100% of my day, I don't think I could have as long of a day 695 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:19,680 because of the amount of energy I would be expelling. 696 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:26,820 So my guilty side says, oh, well, you're not trying hard enough or you have to always have 697 00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:33,320 it on or you're not being authentic or you're not being your best. 698 00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:37,880 As somebody who's just playing with that concept for the first time, what would you recommend 699 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,960 as a healthy balance in terms of recognizing that, do I have to keep it in fifth gear at 700 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:48,720 all times or is there a yield concept that goes along with this? 701 00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:50,240 How do we maximize that? 702 00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:55,400 Because it would be so wonderful if my entire day could be driven around how I'd show up 703 00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,160 for that favorite person the moment they walk in the room. 704 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:03,240 But how does that balance with real life? 705 00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:09,040 So I think that's a great question in that the way that I mentioned that earlier could 706 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:17,080 be maybe misleading in that we don't want to show up in fifth gear all day long because 707 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,600 that could be very draining. 708 00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:29,360 I think that what will help us keep in that positive view is to adapt these practices, 709 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:36,000 these ritual, these act of these philosophical practices because they help us stay more in 710 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:37,900 the present moment. 711 00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:41,120 They help us recognize the distractions. 712 00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:46,340 So when we start going down that depleting negative path, we don't have to wait until 713 00:48:46,340 --> 00:48:48,040 it turns into an avalanche. 714 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:52,240 We can bend over and pick up the pebble before it knocks another rock loose. 715 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:58,180 And understanding how to do that all day, every day can keep us from reaching those 716 00:48:58,180 --> 00:49:00,440 depleted states. 717 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:08,840 And being more present leaves us open to experience the great things that can happen every moment. 718 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:15,080 And that's what will keep us energized and keep us aware of how we're holding our posture 719 00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:19,840 and maintaining our breath and our mental distractions and all of those things kind 720 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:20,840 of come with that. 721 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:28,560 So having these tools and this lifestyle that you're integrating by adopting the meditative 722 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:35,880 practices will help you stay more in that state. 723 00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,040 Let me set the record straight. 724 00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:42,880 You did nothing to teach that the wrong way or misconstrue. 725 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:51,480 What happened is my gluttony, my desire for overindulging with that principle, with that 726 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:54,440 reality took shape. 727 00:49:54,440 --> 00:50:00,360 And I leaned in towards that saying, oh my gosh, I want to just overconsume that feeling. 728 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:09,400 And so that's a very, very good reminder that to all things there is a balance and that 729 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,920 there are different things that we need. 730 00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:18,000 You might find the best vitamin for yourself, but you can't just live off of that vitamin. 731 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:22,720 You might find water very refreshing, but if you don't also have the other elements 732 00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:28,260 that are needed for a healthy body, you can overindulge. 733 00:50:28,260 --> 00:50:30,360 So I already started to. 734 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,400 Thank you for pulling me back. 735 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:37,200 I'm glad I asked because I guarantee you I would have overdone it. 736 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:42,000 So those of you listening in, we're going to have in the resources below the show, the 737 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,840 action steps that you can take to get involved with Jeff's program. 738 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:51,600 I saw that he's got a 14 day trial for $1 on his community program on there. 739 00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,280 And I saw the program itself is only $49. 740 00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:58,040 And I believe that was a month membership, I'm assuming. 741 00:50:58,040 --> 00:50:59,040 Yes. 742 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:04,800 And also one other thing that's available to your clients or your listeners, if they're 743 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:10,080 interested, I'm offering a free copy of my recent book, Just Pay for Shipping and Handling. 744 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:15,720 And you can get that at theyieldingwarrior.com forward slash book. 745 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:21,000 And it's kind of a great way to just understand the philosophy we've been talking about. 746 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:22,000 That's perfect. 747 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:28,680 And in a world of force and a world of constant pressure to compete and be the one who is 748 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:34,160 right about politics and right about the earth and right about everything else, I have a 749 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:39,840 feeling that's a resource that we could all very much benefit from understanding. 750 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,800 So thank you for letting us know about the offer on the book. 751 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,960 We'll put the link as well in the action steps. 752 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:49,800 And below that, my friends, we're going to put a little bit different than the resources. 753 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:55,880 We're going to put those super power steps that Jeff mentioned to us. 754 00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:58,720 And we got one more call to action. 755 00:51:58,720 --> 00:51:59,720 That's in the top right corner. 756 00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:02,120 You're going to see a button that says, be our guest. 757 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:06,960 If you want to be our guest and come on and share your vision, you don't have to be a 758 00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,000 world class master of meditation. 759 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:10,480 I'm just kidding, Jeff. 760 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,360 But a great teacher and guide of meditation. 761 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:17,360 You may have a brand new vision that you want to share with us. 762 00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,840 Come be our guest and come tell us about it. 763 00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,320 As long as you're looking to take care of others, as long as you're looking to help 764 00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,240 this world, we love to get to know you and we will see you all on the next episode of 765 00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:26,240 Vision Pros Live. 766 00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:27,240 Take care, everybody. 767 00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:28,520 Thank you for being here today. 768 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,000 I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live. 769 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,760 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward. 770 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,400 This is going to get more and more fun. 771 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,520 We'll have more and more engagement as well. 772 00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,800 We'll invite people to participate in the show. 773 00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,040 And thank you for giving us your time and attention. 774 00:52:44,040 --> 00:53:01,400 Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.