It's always when the interview gets good, something, something comes to disrupt.
I honestly, everybody's listening.
Like I think he's onto something big.
I think he's onto something important.
And I'm a little bit more of a, of a police on the world than I am an advocate for anything
that's great out there, because I, I want people to use these concepts for the right reason.
I want people to know who's a leader to gravitate towards.
That's going to help with this in a way that uplifts and builds the right type
of people up.
I don't, I don't want to, again, that's, this is a difference between what Grant Cardone does.
Um, you know, and, and what I think James Bond is doing.
It's cool that his name is James Bond by the way.
Um, but that's, it's so important for me because I think that James Bond is kind of what I'm looking
for in terms of the contrast between what I see Grant Cardone doing.
Um, and so go ahead, James, let's, let's hear this.
Now that it looks like our established, our connection is better now.
So to me, there are two pieces to this.
And I talked about that.
Okay.
The first one is pay it forward.
Is it, I'm going to help you, you help other people.
Okay.
Don't hate, you know, this is our trying to help and make a difference to people in their lives.
But the second piece, and this is what started me on focusing on this is evil people tend
to sell emotionally, not logically, because they understand first, they're not logical people.
Evil people tend to be emotional and they know how to sell emotion.
And I want to train logical people how to sell emotionally.
Also, you have to understand we're competing against creeps out there who are very good
selling emotionally.
Okay.
And because we're logical, we know how to solve problems.
We're legitimate.
We care about, you know, solving problems in our life and other people's lives and creating
products or whatever else it is making a difference in the world and all that stuff.
There's logic in that.
Cause if you're not a logical person, you're not able to figure out how to solve problems.
But because you're a logical person, we tend to not sell emotionally.
And to me, you know, Zig Ziglar, I saw him live and he changed my life.
And one of the things he said early on was selling is nothing more than a transference
of passion.
And this is important for every, for all of us, for me to understand, you know, it's like
if you're passionate about something, I have these people I was talking about, you know,
who are trying to change the world.
They're trying to help the kids that are in jail and stuff like that and what other things.
They're passionate, but then they try to create a logical reason why companies like, you
know, like Volkswagen should help them.
I said, no, you need to sell them emotionally.
You know, you need to, because you need to transfer and transfer passion.
You know, if you saw a movie that you love, absolutely love this movie.
I don't have to tell you how to sell it.
You know how to sell it.
It's like I saw hidden figures with the three black women who were in the movie.
I love that.
And James, you're cutting out again, but it is so powerful and important.
I know, I know we're out of time as well, based on what I, what I committed for free.
I don't want to eat into your life, but I do really, really, really want you to come
back.
You hit something massive for me.
I'm going to be studying out meditating on this reality.
I'm going to be studying it.
I'm going to be studying out meditating on this reality that evil isn't logical.
Cause that, that struck a really important chord for me.