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how did you get started? Where did, where did all this come from? The, uh,

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the experience, where did this lead you to?

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And why did this lead you to elite business as well as casino sales?

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And it looks like so much more.

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Yeah. So what started me with this is when I was 16,

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my first job was a commission based job. Um, I,

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I got the sales bite of, of living the commission lifestyle. Uh,

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for most people, it's not something that they like doing, uh,

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because especially most entry level sales positions,

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you basically just get thrown out in the deep end and you either sink or you

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swim. And back then it was all cold calling when people would still pick up

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their phones. Um, that was what it was. And you either did it or you didn't.

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And it's a really hard life to do. It just is,

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especially when you're not trained how to do it correctly.

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And you don't have the correct way of building a team around you.

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But I fell in love with the fact that when I was successful,

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I was getting paid massively more than all of my peers around me that were

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working hourly wages.

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So being 16 and getting a major paycheck that had a comma in it was,

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whoa, that was insane. So that was what got me into it.

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And then as I was going through college,

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I was graduating right as the last recession happened.

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So I have an accounting and financing degree when the people getting blamed are

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accounting firms and banks. So every per every place we got applied to,

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I got accepted by a position in November, get a message in March says, Hey,

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we're firing people with 30 years experience. We're not bringing on new people.

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Sorry, but figure it out. So it's like, all right, found this out in March.

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I'm graduating in like three weeks. What are we doing here? Um,

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so I ended up taking a century and entry level position with a life insurance

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company.

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We still life insurance annuities because as long as you can pay it past the

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test and get your credentials,

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any life insurance annuity company will hire anyone.

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That's just how they are because we're going to throw you in a deep end.

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If you make it great. If not, no, that's life too. First year,

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I was rookie of the year. Second year was underclassmen of the year.

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And 30 year left. I love to go build my own business. And since then,

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fast forward, I have 27 businesses now that I have either built or sold myself

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out of.

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And that's where the expertise of elite business conversations comes into play

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because we build businesses so that you don't have to be there.

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I couldn't have 20 plus businesses if I had to be ingrained in them every second

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of every day. If I had to constantly think about them 24 seven,

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most of my businesses,

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my relationship with them is looking at the bank account,

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making sure the deposit came in correctly. And then if need be,

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talk to the people involved. But most of it, it's on autopilot.

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I can literally just be on a beach and knowing that my businesses are operating

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behind me.

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And that's how we go about in changing the ventures and transforming people's

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businesses so that they can have that,

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whether they're at a spot where we don't have the employees yet and we need to

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learn how to create revenue through sales. Well, yeah,

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that's what casino sales masters for more of the spot where, Hey,

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we do have employees,

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but I need to not be running around babysitting everyone putting out fires.

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Well, that's where elite business conversations comes in.

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So that's how we go about doing.