All right.
Hello.
Hello, hello.
I apologize for having tons of rain here so I have to apologize.
Why is that?
From Debbie.
We actually lost power earlier this morning and lost internet access so it's good to know that.
No, no, no, I meant why are you apologizing?
Oh, because it seems so dark here.
Oh, oh you're okay.
I'm sorry you're in the dark.
I'm not in the dark.
Let's see here.
There we go.
I got some things cleaned up there.
Where are you based out of?
Just outside Charlotte, North Carolina.
Small town called Waxhaw.
A different county but a mile from Charlotte and three miles from South Carolina.
Okay.
Very good.
How did you hear about our show?
I believe it was through PodMatch.
Are you on there?
Yep, definitely.
Yeah, Alex has become a good friend.
So it's been a good platform.
He's the owner, founder of it.
So today's goal is to either record a podcast session or to dive into some pre-show questions.
If there's anything you want to know about us beforehand, anything we want to know about you, we wish you would have to take the time for that.
The show Vision Pros, I don't know how much you know about it, but we're looking to host visionary leaders in the world.
I have a much easier time vetting people who come onto the show to talk about simpler subjects.
Because the simpler subjects are a little bit easier to wrap my brain around.
But if I had a surgeon who does heart surgery, I would need to look at where to go to school.
Who's referring?
Who's referring, this guy, especially if he's going to change the world with open heart surgery, from taking hearts from fish and implanting them into people.
I would need to do my background check to make sure that he's legitimately a real deal for the audience.
Does that make sense?
Correct.
You might have to do this because people have never heard of the SpendSwift Trust, but it is legal.
It's in the IRS tax code.
Correct.
I do have a great team.
I do have certain people, but I did bring it up with a couple of CFOs and CPAs that I work with.
I said, help me to know what I need to know about this.
One of them held the cross-up, so to speak, and the other one said, let me talk to her.
I said, okay, let me get the introduction that way you guys can talk.
If it's okay with you, I certainly don't want to waste your time.
If you've got a tax code that's as phenomenally powerful as you claim on the website, and something that I say tax code, forgive me.
That's not my space.
If you've got something that entrepreneurs need to understand here, then I don't want to be so scared of it to just turn it off and say, well, no, I don't want to touch this.
I do want to introduce you to Barbara Ann Garden Hire Mills.
I'm sorry, Barbara what?
Her name is Barbara Ann Garden Hire Mills.
Barbara Ann is a wonderful individual.
I love her to death.
I actually met her through the podcast.
We applied for each other's shows.
I think I applied for hers first, probably through matchmaker.fm.
Then as we got to know each other, it became very apparent that we aligned on a whole lot of principles and values.
She comes from government, SBA, all sorts of acronyms that are certifications that I will never possibly comprehend.
I come from 0.33 GPA.
Texans don't really like the government very much.
We'd rather just have them out of it.
I've got no diploma or acronyms.
I just love to show up. I'm a single father of four who loves to help people grow businesses.
We're like the exact opposites.
We have this yin-yang reality.
She's got a TV show as well.
Maybe you end up two for one being on her show and mine.
I do know she's far more qualified to figure out what you do.
If she says, Jackson, she's safe.
Jackson, what she's doing makes a lot of sense.
Then that will help me go, cool, let's explore.
I'll ask all the ignorant questions.
She can ask all the dynamic questions.
Then maybe we end up all helping the world together.
How will you introduce us?
How far we're going to go together?
I'll do an email introduction.
I'll do an email introduction and save us all the time.
Then you guys can coordinate.
If you see it makes sense to move forward.
I can give you the law firm's website.
I can give you a book that unfortunately CPAs don't learn this because they learned only certain tax codes.
There are over a million attorneys in the United States.
Four percent are tax attorneys.
You're going to go way over my head on this, Sally.
Again, I know enough to be dangerous.
I also know enough to say, look, I'm a doctor when it comes to business, ultimately.
But I'm not going to pretend that I understand the brain surgeon stuff.
I just used this for somebody today.
Insurance agent making $100,000 a year.
Husband makes $97,000 a year.
W-2 income.
Can't help them.
We're going to save them $37,600.
I know, but what I hear is the same types.
The only thing that happens when somebody tries to push the results on a doctor especially.
If I go to my doctor and I try to hype him, the only thing the doctor is going to do is put their hands up and say, I'm going to call security if you don't come down.
That's not helpful.
What is helpful?
Small business people are saving thousands is all I'm going to say.
I understand that.
I don't know how many will end up in prison at some point or not.
I have no idea.
I don't care about the initial result.
I don't care how much gold somebody can bring me.
I want to know, did they steal it from the bank vault?
Is there a trail of cops coming behind this in the FBI?
Or is this a legitimate reality that is worth promoting?
It's my job to uncover that.
All I'm going to say is this is safe for my audience.
I think you mean well.
That's why I share that.
The amount of phone calls I get and the amount of voicemails I get of people who look like you look when you talk about that, who sound like you sound when you talk about that, and who are scamming the hell out of Americans every single day, puts you in a very uncomfortable position that as a leader, we've got to recognize.
How do we become if we legitimately have something of value?
How do we meet people where they need to be met about it so they actually do end up working with the right person and don't.
I missed out on all the EID loans to put that in perspective.
I tried.
I had one company that was working with that did a ton of stuff and they missed out on all that.
I know others who did just fine.
And they made what they needed to.
I know others who got it and got hosed on the back end by interest rates and stuff they weren't prepared for.
So it's not as simple as just looking at it at face value.
I have to be more thorough for the sake of my audience.
So I appreciate you making the space for that.
You and you and Barbara Ann will have a great chat that will influence a lot of how I feel.
But I will still have my own feelings and my own desires.
Is there is there more?
And I mean that in a good way.
She's more of a she's going to be more skeptical than I am.
I'm going to reserve judgment once I see what she says.
If because of what I've seen and because of like who you showed up as a leader,
I'm probably going to send you to another person who will say who will want to look at it if you want to go through that.
And then what that does that gets us.
I went through the same thing as a software provider when we wanted to work with the Masters Tournament Augusta.
There was a huge vetting process behind us becoming the provider for their software, for their hospitality needs, for their guests.
And because we went through that and we went through the whole process,
we ended up getting dozens and dozens of restaurants who wanted to work with us after we had gone through that reality.
I don't want to I don't want to push you through anything difficult, but I appreciate you being willing to make this space.
I stand behind it.
So that means as much as you want that I'm fine with that.
Thank you very much.
So let's do that.
We'll call it.
We'll wrap it up for right now.
And then based on the conversation, Barbara Ann and your desire to want to come back through, we'll just get you rebooked and we'll move it forward once we go to the vetting process.
So sounds good.
So by email or do you know how she'll contact me?
I'll send an email.
I'll send an email for both of you.
I'll include my assistant on it too so she can help out.
And then we'll go from there.