1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,000 All right. 2 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000 Hello. 3 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Hello, hello. 4 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,000 I apologize for having tons of rain here so I have to apologize. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:10,000 Why is that? 6 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,000 From Debbie. 7 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,000 We actually lost power earlier this morning and lost internet access so it's good to know that. 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:18,000 No, no, no, I meant why are you apologizing? 9 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,000 Oh, because it seems so dark here. 10 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,000 Oh, oh you're okay. 11 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,000 I'm sorry you're in the dark. 12 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 I'm not in the dark. 13 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 Let's see here. 14 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 There we go. 15 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:32,000 I got some things cleaned up there. 16 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,000 Where are you based out of? 17 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,000 Just outside Charlotte, North Carolina. 18 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,000 Small town called Waxhaw. 19 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:44,000 A different county but a mile from Charlotte and three miles from South Carolina. 20 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 Okay. 21 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,000 Very good. 22 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,000 How did you hear about our show? 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,000 I believe it was through PodMatch. 24 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,000 Are you on there? 25 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,000 Yep, definitely. 26 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 Yeah, Alex has become a good friend. 27 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,000 So it's been a good platform. 28 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 He's the owner, founder of it. 29 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:12,000 So today's goal is to either record a podcast session or to dive into some pre-show questions. 30 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:20,000 If there's anything you want to know about us beforehand, anything we want to know about you, we wish you would have to take the time for that. 31 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:25,000 The show Vision Pros, I don't know how much you know about it, but we're looking to host visionary leaders in the world. 32 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:35,000 I have a much easier time vetting people who come onto the show to talk about simpler subjects. 33 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:39,000 Because the simpler subjects are a little bit easier to wrap my brain around. 34 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:50,000 But if I had a surgeon who does heart surgery, I would need to look at where to go to school. 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,000 Who's referring? 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Who's referring, this guy, especially if he's going to change the world with open heart surgery, from taking hearts from fish and implanting them into people. 37 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:10,000 I would need to do my background check to make sure that he's legitimately a real deal for the audience. 38 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Does that make sense? 39 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,000 Correct. 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,000 You might have to do this because people have never heard of the SpendSwift Trust, but it is legal. 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,000 It's in the IRS tax code. 42 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Correct. 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 I do have a great team. 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:28,000 I do have certain people, but I did bring it up with a couple of CFOs and CPAs that I work with. 45 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:32,000 I said, help me to know what I need to know about this. 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:41,000 One of them held the cross-up, so to speak, and the other one said, let me talk to her. 47 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:45,000 I said, okay, let me get the introduction that way you guys can talk. 48 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:49,000 If it's okay with you, I certainly don't want to waste your time. 49 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:56,000 If you've got a tax code that's as phenomenally powerful as you claim on the website, and something that I say tax code, forgive me. 50 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,000 That's not my space. 51 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:07,000 If you've got something that entrepreneurs need to understand here, then I don't want to be so scared of it to just turn it off and say, well, no, I don't want to touch this. 52 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:12,000 I do want to introduce you to Barbara Ann Garden Hire Mills. 53 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:14,000 I'm sorry, Barbara what? 54 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 Her name is Barbara Ann Garden Hire Mills. 55 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:24,000 Barbara Ann is a wonderful individual. 56 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,000 I love her to death. 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,000 I actually met her through the podcast. 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,000 We applied for each other's shows. 59 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:35,000 I think I applied for hers first, probably through matchmaker.fm. 60 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:42,000 Then as we got to know each other, it became very apparent that we aligned on a whole lot of principles and values. 61 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:54,000 She comes from government, SBA, all sorts of acronyms that are certifications that I will never possibly comprehend. 62 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:59,000 I come from 0.33 GPA. 63 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Texans don't really like the government very much. 64 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,000 We'd rather just have them out of it. 65 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,000 I've got no diploma or acronyms. 66 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,000 I just love to show up. I'm a single father of four who loves to help people grow businesses. 67 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,000 We're like the exact opposites. 68 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,000 We have this yin-yang reality. 69 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,000 She's got a TV show as well. 70 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:26,000 Maybe you end up two for one being on her show and mine. 71 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:31,000 I do know she's far more qualified to figure out what you do. 72 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,000 If she says, Jackson, she's safe. 73 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,000 Jackson, what she's doing makes a lot of sense. 74 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,000 Then that will help me go, cool, let's explore. 75 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,000 I'll ask all the ignorant questions. 76 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:46,000 She can ask all the dynamic questions. 77 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:50,000 Then maybe we end up all helping the world together. 78 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 How will you introduce us? 79 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 How far we're going to go together? 80 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,000 I'll do an email introduction. 81 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,000 I'll do an email introduction and save us all the time. 82 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 Then you guys can coordinate. 83 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:06,000 If you see it makes sense to move forward. 84 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,000 I can give you the law firm's website. 85 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:16,000 I can give you a book that unfortunately CPAs don't learn this because they learned only certain tax codes. 86 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 There are over a million attorneys in the United States. 87 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:22,000 Four percent are tax attorneys. 88 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,000 You're going to go way over my head on this, Sally. 89 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Again, I know enough to be dangerous. 90 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:32,000 I also know enough to say, look, I'm a doctor when it comes to business, ultimately. 91 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:38,000 But I'm not going to pretend that I understand the brain surgeon stuff. 92 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:42,000 I just used this for somebody today. 93 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,000 Insurance agent making $100,000 a year. 94 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Husband makes $97,000 a year. 95 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:49,000 W-2 income. 96 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Can't help them. 97 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,000 We're going to save them $37,600. 98 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,000 I know, but what I hear is the same types. 99 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:03,000 The only thing that happens when somebody tries to push the results on a doctor especially. 100 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:15,000 If I go to my doctor and I try to hype him, the only thing the doctor is going to do is put their hands up and say, I'm going to call security if you don't come down. 101 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:18,000 That's not helpful. 102 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,000 What is helpful? 103 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:24,000 Small business people are saving thousands is all I'm going to say. 104 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,000 I understand that. 105 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 I don't know how many will end up in prison at some point or not. 106 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,000 I have no idea. 107 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 I don't care about the initial result. 108 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,000 I don't care how much gold somebody can bring me. 109 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,000 I want to know, did they steal it from the bank vault? 110 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,000 Is there a trail of cops coming behind this in the FBI? 111 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:46,000 Or is this a legitimate reality that is worth promoting? 112 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,000 It's my job to uncover that. 113 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,000 All I'm going to say is this is safe for my audience. 114 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,000 I think you mean well. 115 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 That's why I share that. 116 00:06:55,000 --> 00:07:15,000 The amount of phone calls I get and the amount of voicemails I get of people who look like you look when you talk about that, who sound like you sound when you talk about that, and who are scamming the hell out of Americans every single day, puts you in a very uncomfortable position that as a leader, we've got to recognize. 117 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:20,000 How do we become if we legitimately have something of value? 118 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:28,000 How do we meet people where they need to be met about it so they actually do end up working with the right person and don't. 119 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,000 I missed out on all the EID loans to put that in perspective. 120 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,000 I tried. 121 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,000 I had one company that was working with that did a ton of stuff and they missed out on all that. 122 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,000 I know others who did just fine. 123 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,000 And they made what they needed to. 124 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:47,000 I know others who got it and got hosed on the back end by interest rates and stuff they weren't prepared for. 125 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:53,000 So it's not as simple as just looking at it at face value. 126 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 I have to be more thorough for the sake of my audience. 127 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 So I appreciate you making the space for that. 128 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:02,000 You and you and Barbara Ann will have a great chat that will influence a lot of how I feel. 129 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:06,000 But I will still have my own feelings and my own desires. 130 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 Is there is there more? 131 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:09,000 And I mean that in a good way. 132 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:15,000 She's more of a she's going to be more skeptical than I am. 133 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:19,000 I'm going to reserve judgment once I see what she says. 134 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:24,000 If because of what I've seen and because of like who you showed up as a leader, 135 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:31,000 I'm probably going to send you to another person who will say who will want to look at it if you want to go through that. 136 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,000 And then what that does that gets us. 137 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:41,000 I went through the same thing as a software provider when we wanted to work with the Masters Tournament Augusta. 138 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:49,000 There was a huge vetting process behind us becoming the provider for their software, for their hospitality needs, for their guests. 139 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:54,000 And because we went through that and we went through the whole process, 140 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:59,000 we ended up getting dozens and dozens of restaurants who wanted to work with us after we had gone through that reality. 141 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:05,000 I don't want to I don't want to push you through anything difficult, but I appreciate you being willing to make this space. 142 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,000 I stand behind it. 143 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,000 So that means as much as you want that I'm fine with that. 144 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 Thank you very much. 145 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,000 So let's do that. 146 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:14,000 We'll call it. 147 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,000 We'll wrap it up for right now. 148 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:25,000 And then based on the conversation, Barbara Ann and your desire to want to come back through, we'll just get you rebooked and we'll move it forward once we go to the vetting process. 149 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,000 So sounds good. 150 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,000 So by email or do you know how she'll contact me? 151 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,000 I'll send an email. 152 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,000 I'll send an email for both of you. 153 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 I'll include my assistant on it too so she can help out. 154 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:58,000 And then we'll go from there.