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what's your bio, what you do? Is that what it is to helping entrepreneurs or is there something more,

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something different that I'm not seeing? So I mean I think that while you know my job is the owner

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of my company with having graphic designers that work for me, you know my job is to make sure that

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the pipeline is full, that they have great projects to work on and that they are you know that they

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keep busy during the day and so that's important. So that's a big part of my why is why you know I'm

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out on LinkedIn and doing direct mail and different things to bring in clients but we really have a

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passion for working with nonprofits. We work with for-profit and nonprofit organizations but we

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really really love the work that we do for our nonprofits. There's nothing like having my team

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walk in a 5k that is being held by one of our nonprofit organizations for us to proudly have

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those shirts on and say we're part of this team. You know we are honored to be while we're doing

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the marketing for this organization, we're part of this team and we're just honored to be part of

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that mission and so that's why we have really decided that going after working with nonprofits

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is so important because at the end of the day it feels so it feels so good to know that we are part

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of making those missions happen and having an impact in not only our communities but communities

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around the country in a small way you know that we are part of what their missions are.

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Is that what what's the reason you get out of bed in the morning every day?

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Gosh you know I really do love what I do. I love my team. My designers are amazing. They're not

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only amazing designers but they're amazing people and so if we can keep this business going and I

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can keep them employed and give them work that makes them confident, feel good about what they do

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and just have a job they enjoy coming to and we can have a sustainable business and we're also

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helping our clients you know that's that really is that's that's really important to me. It's

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amazing that I can still go in the office every day after 21 years of owning my business and say

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this is my business and we're going to make this work and what's what's today got in store for us.

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Who am I going to meet? And I do a lot of a lot of zoom calls and I have just a lot of I meet a lot

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of amazing people. As I was saying I just got off the call with somebody just before this call as

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rushing to it you know I said oh my gosh I've got to go I've got only four minutes left before my

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podcast but it was just an amazing amazing connection and so it's still exciting for me every day.