did this vision exactly come from where you figured this part out about, you know, like
people need to focus other things as well apart from just from professional environment?
Yeah, that's a good question. I think working with different consultancies and only focusing,
so running other people's programs on people in their professional lives made me realize that
there's a big opportunity combined with my experience as a psychotherapist and working
very deeply with people and, and, you know, all, all, all the joys, but also all the suffering that
they carried and seeing how that impacted every aspect of their life. It, yeah, that became very
apparent and very important to me. And so about 10 years ago, I decided that I wanted to start my own
consulting business and really focus on the whole person and also bring together the intersection of
leadership, mental health and wellbeing, because most companies, their programs or strategies in
place to support their people around mental health and then in another area around leadership. And I
wanted to combine the two because a really strong foundation of leadership is strong mental health.
You know, if you, you can't have one without the other and, and, and companies weren't thinking in
a holistic perspective. So with my different experience, that became very apparent to me.
And, and it feels very natural to me actually, feels just very authentic to do it like that.
It feels strange to kind of silo those two things.