1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,000 Tell me about your vision. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:08,120 Man, that's feels like a loaded question all the time when I hear that. 3 00:00:08,120 --> 00:00:09,840 Biggest thing for me is family. 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:14,840 Seeing I've got two girls under three right now really just trying to lead them in a good 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:15,840 direction. 6 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,400 Seeing the way that our country and the world is kind of gone, I want to make sure that 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:24,520 I raise good children that are going to become leaders in this world. 8 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:29,680 So that's the biggest, most important vision for me outside of my faith of course to really 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:34,760 build those two little girls up to be something that can really change the world. 10 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:41,160 As far as the business side for me, very similar, but I want to be able to help leaders be better 11 00:00:41,160 --> 00:00:42,720 communicators. 12 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:48,920 More specifically men and dads, I want to help them be able to communicate better because 13 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:49,920 that's a passion of mine. 14 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:55,360 I've seen the way that me getting better at speaking, being an engineer, electrical engineer, 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:01:01,000 very introverted when I was younger and how communication has impacted my life. 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:05,960 Give me opportunities to be on amazing podcasts like this to be able to be interviewed, leading 17 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:12,280 teams, learning how to delegate, navigating the waters of marriage through communication. 18 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:18,000 I want to be able to help other leaders with that because I look at the MLKs and people 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:25,520 like that and who was it that was the impact or the influencer in MLKs life to be able 20 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:30,080 to change history for the black people in our country. 21 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:33,120 I want to be able to help other people with that because I realize that I can only do 22 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,640 so much and I want to help other people. 23 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:40,480 So using my skills that I've learned with communication and so that's my vision really 24 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,600 just to help let's say a thousand people. 25 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,520 I want it to be more than that but right now it's to help a thousand people become better 26 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:53,840 communicators so we can create a ripple in the world. 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:59,280 That's very interesting from what I heard from your background, you going into better 28 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,640 communication. 29 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:08,960 So Phillip, where did this vision of you helping people become better communicators come from 30 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:17,480 when you came from this oil and electrical engineer background and Texas moving to Carolinas, 31 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,200 where did this fit in? 32 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:24,680 Really just being in the oil and gas industry where it kind of started for me, I was an 33 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:30,760 engineer by degree like I've already mentioned but I was going out and fixing these systems. 34 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:35,800 I was starting up these systems up in North Dakota going out by myself as at that time 35 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,320 I think I was like 23 something like that so very young, very green, freshly out of 36 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:48,160 college and yet I was the one making this stuff happen doing the actual work and yet 37 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,360 every time an issue would come up, the customer would start talking about oh that young dumb 38 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,800 engineer, that young dumb engineer, I was the young dumb engineer that they were talking 39 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,320 about yet I'm the one doing all the work, I'm actually making it happen and I'm actually 40 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:06,960 fixing the issues that were there that weren't necessarily my issues but I was helping fix 41 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:07,960 that. 42 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:13,280 Then another oil and gas job actually when I moved to Georgia, I was in South Carolina 43 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:17,960 for a little bit, moved down to Georgia then back to South Carolina but when I was there 44 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:22,120 I kept getting talked down to and kind of similar situation, we would have engineering 45 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:28,200 meetings weekly and I was the youngest of the four engineers, the others were over 50 46 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:34,520 years old for sure and 50 minutes of the hour meeting would be talking about my work that 47 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:39,400 I was working on and maybe at that time there was more things going on for my area than 48 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:45,160 theirs but still I was the one doing all this work and yet my manager kept talking down 49 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:50,240 to me and he wouldn't call me the young dumb engineer but he was belittling me and well 50 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,680 hey if you feel like you can't get all this work done maybe you should work more hours, 51 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,920 I'm only paid for 40 so why am I going to sit here and work 50 or 60 hours, I'm not 52 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:02,440 getting rewarded for that, it's basically I'm getting paid less than at that point and 53 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,400 that was really the catalyst for me to realize that I needed to speak up for myself and I 54 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:12,440 started to speak up for myself and as I started doing that more opportunities in the corporate 55 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:17,240 world started coming towards me as well as getting paid more because I was willing to 56 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:23,660 speak up and then because of all of that and feeling lesser than I wanted to help other 57 00:04:23,660 --> 00:04:28,540 people and that was really the spur of all this is just to help people realize that there 58 00:04:28,540 --> 00:04:34,280 is value in them and even as I got into speaking, well what kind of value do I bring, what can 59 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:39,800 I bring, I haven't gone from rags to riches, I haven't built a nine figure business or 60 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,960 anything like that, how can I help somebody out and it's because of who I am or who I 61 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:50,540 was and who I've become that I can help that person that I was two or three years ago and 62 00:04:50,540 --> 00:04:55,520 so now I help people understand that they do have a message worth sharing, that they 63 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,760 can help somebody and they don't have to have this crazy success or that rags to riches 64 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,440 story to do that. 65 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:10,400 Wow, that's a very powerful story and I can already think of a few people that I come 66 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:18,600 on my show already that I can introduce you to and make an introduction that they've done, 67 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:25,160 two of them specifically have helped, one of them is named Dana Skak. 68 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:35,320 She is a counselor slash speaker slash author where she helps people with boundaries within 69 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,300 the work environment where they can communicate better. 70 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:47,160 So I think that the way she's doing is very powerful and impactful and I also see now, 71 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,960 I also see now the speaking sessions which goes with your name sessions, I think that's 72 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,600 a very clever advertising so that's awesome. 73 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:00,080 Yeah, thanks, I would love the connection and that's something as well, the more people 74 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:07,040 you connect with the better, it doesn't matter who it is, just connect with people is they 75 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,120 know somebody most likely that you need to be connected with. 76 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:15,840 So just connect, that's the biggest thing that we can do is just connect with more people, 77 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:17,640 have real genuine conversations. 78 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,640 Yeah, your network is your network. 79 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:22,640 Exactly. 80 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:28,000 Awesome, well thank you for sharing that Phil. 81 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:33,560 Would you say that that is also your why of what you do, what gets you out of bed every 82 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:39,800 morning and you do podcast sessions at the same time and I don't know if you still have 83 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:46,840 something else that you do for work or is speaking is your main income source, what 84 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:50,720 gets you out of bed and do these? 85 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:51,720 Why are you on the show? 86 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:52,720 You know what I mean? 87 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,160 What gets you to do all these things? 88 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,520 Yeah, really building that legacy because I've been in the masterminds, I spent the 89 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:03,440 money to go to conferences and stuff like that and just seeing these people get out 90 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:09,000 there and speak and build these things and not that I had a bad childhood or anything 91 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:16,240 and not that my parents told me I couldn't do anything but I want to show my kids that 92 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:20,220 if you put your mind to it, it can happen and I feel like there was that kind of bread 93 00:07:20,220 --> 00:07:26,320 in there but maybe not given to me as much because my parents didn't have a lot of money 94 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,200 growing up and that's okay. 95 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:32,560 They loved me, they showed me everything they could and I grew up what I thought was a normal 96 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,480 household but two loving parents. 97 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:40,360 That's not that normal of a household anymore so a very unique household in that sense 98 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:46,520 but why I get up every day is to leave that legacy for my children, to show them that 99 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:51,040 because I wanted to do something, I at least went and tried it and I want them to be able 100 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:56,520 to do the same thing because I think for us to create success, we have to be willing to 101 00:07:56,520 --> 00:08:03,260 fail forward and so I want my kids to see first hand that daddy is willing to try something 102 00:08:03,260 --> 00:08:08,840 and fail and still keep going and even if the success isn't there yet, he's going to 103 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:13,260 keep going no matter what and he won't give up until he gets there, until he can help 104 00:08:13,260 --> 00:08:16,520 the amount of people that he wants to help and everything and make that change that he 105 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:23,080 wants to do and so that's really my why is to create that legacy for my children but 106 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,320 then also other people that are watching me on social media or wherever to be able to 107 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:32,480 look at me as an example and continue to push forward when they're going through that struggle 108 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,000 because we all struggle in life so that's the why. 109 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:44,000 Wow, very powerful, very, very powerful yet very simplistic. Not a lot of people are thinking 110 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:51,280 about legacy at your age Philip, they're not and most people realize that at I'm assuming 111 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:59,720 50s, 60s, 40s when they've spent majority of their peak years in frivolous efforts or 112 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,360 something else that they're trying to build and they're like oh my gosh, I don't have 113 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:08,920 a legacy to leave so wow, that's very powerful. Well, that goes directly into my next question 114 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:15,920 for you Philip. How did you get started with, what did you do, how did this all come about 115 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:23,000 when you started doing podcast sessions and speaking and helping people? 116 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,480 So the podcast side, it actually started with another endeavor. I've always really wanted 117 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,600 to get into entrepreneurship and everything and the first endeavor I did was actually 118 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:36,800 fitness coaching so I had the Healthy Living Sessions podcast. Again, the play on the last 119 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:41,600 name there and everything but that's what really got me into podcasting but what got 120 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:47,800 me to actually start it, I had bought a mic and everything for a year, sat on it, didn't 121 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:53,000 do anything with it and somebody said, I asked them how do you start a podcast and they said 122 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,080 just start and luckily they have some other advice but that was the biggest piece of advice 123 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:02,040 was just start. So start with that podcast but I started to feel burnout with that and 124 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:09,040 actually while I was at BMW manufacturing, I went into an HR role in the training department 125 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:15,680 and they had me work on presentation development skills and at that point in my outside career, 126 00:10:15,680 --> 00:10:19,240 I was trying to look for what's that next thing and I was thinking leadership but I 127 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:23,720 was feeling like okay, I've never really been in a leadership position per se although people 128 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,680 have looked up to me as a leader and everything and when they asked me to do presentation 129 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:33,320 skills, that's where that light bulb clicked because I want to do something different. 130 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,560 I saw how podcasting helped me. I saw how learning to communicate better has helped 131 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:42,760 me in my career which ironically got me into that role because of doing a podcast outside 132 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:49,040 of the business by being a good communicator and not just being the engineer and I saw 133 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:56,040 that BMW saw this need and wanted to spend money on this or spend effort at least on 134 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:02,640 fulfilling this need for the people which at the plant here in Spartanburg, South Carolina 135 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,920 has 11,000 people. It's basically a small city and they saw that need and that's the 136 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,840 light bulb that catalyst for me was like this is a business that I need to start for myself 137 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,280 because of how much it's helped me and I want to be able to help other people. 138 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:23,280 That's awesome. Wow. Thank you for sharing all that, Philip. I have one more question 139 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:31,320 for you before we end today's session and actually it's two part. It's not one part. 140 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:33,960 It's two part. 141 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:35,640 All right. Oh, good one. 142 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:41,880 You will be able to answer this. The first part is why do you leaders hide from funding 143 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:46,560 the vision and the second part is how do leaders lean into funding the vision. I've given you 144 00:11:46,560 --> 00:11:52,160 both the context and now we can start the question. Philip, why do you think that leaders 145 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,720 hide from funding the vision? 146 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:00,280 Because when you're putting money towards something and you're not seeing a return on 147 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:06,020 it, a lot of the outside world and yourself inside your head, you're lost. You don't know 148 00:12:06,020 --> 00:12:11,360 why you would keep doing this but the outside world I feel screams a lot more about that. 149 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:16,480 Why are you putting money into this? Let's use a podcast as an example. It may seem silly 150 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:23,480 to spend hundreds, thousands, tens of thousands of dollars on producing a podcast that for 151 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:28,520 a lot of people isn't really making them money directly. I see you have sponsors here but 152 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:32,960 a lot of podcasts they don't have sponsors. They're not actually making money directly 153 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,760 from that and that seems crazy to do that. It's the same thing with our vision. When 154 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:42,480 we're putting money into that vision, that self-development ourselves to create the systems 155 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:47,560 and processes for that business, it seems crazy because there's not a return on that 156 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:53,680 investment and I believe that's why they're really hiding from that vision or they're 157 00:12:53,680 --> 00:13:00,560 not really going towards that and then why they hide that funding is again because they 158 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:07,160 don't want to show that, hey, I've put $10,000 into this and haven't seen anything yet. Andy 159 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:12,060 Frazella and if you don't know him you should definitely look him up. His first 10 years 160 00:13:12,060 --> 00:13:18,600 in business he made I think it was like average to like $500 a month or a year that he made 161 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:25,600 over 10 years in business. It was something just so small, such a small amount but now 162 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:32,880 he's like 25 years into business and it's a nine or 10 figure business but it took him 163 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:39,040 10 years before he started really making any traction and too often especially in today's 164 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:44,280 society we don't want to show that we haven't made anything for ourselves and there's always 165 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:49,360 that outside pressure but also that internal pressure that says we should be doing it faster, 166 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,260 that it should happen faster and with social media it should happen a little bit faster 167 00:13:54,260 --> 00:14:00,920 than Andy's case with the 10 years but even if it does take 10 years or 20 years you shouldn't 168 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,560 hide from that vision because that's something that's your passion and if you're really truly 169 00:14:05,560 --> 00:14:09,440 passionate about it, it doesn't matter how much money you poured into it because it's 170 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:15,160 a passion of yours, it's a vision of where you want to go, it's a legacy you want to 171 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:21,880 leave. So I think part of this as well why leaders hide that vision is they don't want 172 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:28,880 to look like a failure but they also don't want to express that this is my vision and 173 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:34,480 then it doesn't come to fruition either so it really just comes back to the people that 174 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,360 are around them, they're afraid of what people are going to think about them instead of what 175 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:43,120 they're going to think about themselves in the end. 176 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:50,120 I couldn't agree more. There is, we have this program but in one of the programs there's 177 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:58,480 a segment where most people and most entrepreneurs they're not going to succeed in their business 178 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,080 anyway or they're destined to fail if they don't have a vision, most of them. There is 179 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:10,080 very selective few who have the grit and the integrity and the work ethic to surpass that 180 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:16,800 where with their hard work they will overcome the failures of not having great systems or 181 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:23,520 great leadership skills but most people without a vision and a passion will not even get to 182 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:29,240 a point where they are able to fund their vision through a lot more effort and a lot 183 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:36,240 more things so I completely agree. When it goes to the next question about it, 184 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:40,800 Phillip, is how do leaders lean into funding their vision? 185 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:47,800 So how they lean into it is realizing that and I want to give an analogy here of ice 186 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:54,800 cream. If you are just a vanilla loving ice cream person, that's great but vanilla is 187 00:15:56,040 --> 00:16:02,040 a basic flavor. Vanilla, chocolate, strawberry, those are all basic flavors and people will 188 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:07,100 agree with you like, hey, I like vanilla, I like chocolate, I like strawberry but they 189 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:11,960 like it. They don't necessarily love it but if you start talking about how, man I love 190 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:18,880 pistachio ice cream, Rocky Road is my favorite ice cream, these more unique ice creams, more 191 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:22,840 people are going to resonate with that or be repelled as well like, oh my gosh, I can't 192 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,920 believe you like pistachio ice cream, how gross but they are going to remember you for 193 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,280 that whether they like it as well or they can't stand it and think you are the craziest 194 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:37,140 thing for liking that and it's the same thing of why we need to lean into that vision because 195 00:16:37,140 --> 00:16:43,800 when we lean into our vision, people then can be with us or they can be against us and 196 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:49,200 we can know who it is that's actually there for us and who is going to support us in that 197 00:16:49,200 --> 00:16:53,400 vision and like you were just kind of mentioning, if we don't have a vision, if we are not talking 198 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:57,680 about it, people can't know if we are going in that right direction so you have to lean 199 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,480 in so you can know if you are going in the right direction plus it's all about just being 200 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,400 all in on it, you can't be half way in, half way out, you can't show your wife love some 201 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:13,520 days and not love the other days, you got to be showing your wife love all the time 202 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,860 is if you show it none of the time or show it here and there, she is going to question 203 00:17:17,860 --> 00:17:22,160 if you truly love her but if you are always showing her that love, she is always going 204 00:17:22,160 --> 00:17:27,720 to feel or most of the time will feel loved all the time and same thing with our vision, 205 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,440 our vision will start to happen as long as we continue to lean into it, we continue to 206 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:37,840 be all about it so I think that's why leaders need to do that and they just and how they 207 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:44,080 do it, talking about it all the time, communicating with people, being about it, sharing it on 208 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:49,000 stories, sharing it on social media, being in environments around that vision, let's 209 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,800 say you want to be into public speaking, go to public speaking events, go to business 210 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:58,480 seminars, learn how to develop yourself in that area and be around those areas, that's 211 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:04,680 how you actually lean into that vision besides just thinking about it, talk about it, be 212 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,360 all about it and eventually people will start to see that and start to follow you, that's 213 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:11,280 how you lean into it. 214 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:17,280 Thank you for sharing your thoughts on that Phillip, I think that's very impactful for 215 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:25,120 our audience, it was a unique perspective in a way and you're very authentic, I thank 216 00:18:25,120 --> 00:18:26,120 you for being very authentic. 217 00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:30,160 Thank you for being here today, I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live, 218 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:35,000 I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward, 219 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,800 this is going to get more and more fun, we'll have more and more engagement as well, we 220 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:42,360 want to invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time 221 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:46,720 and attention, have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a Vision Pro 222 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:47,280 yourself.