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Where would you say

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at this vision of having a business with

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service in dual industry came from?

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Definitely my first

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Daughter's birth over 32 years ago. I had a hospital delivery

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I was military dependent at the time and I had an overwhelmingly positive experience. It was very challenging

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But it was overwhelmingly positive and some of that was just luck. It was just luck

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I had no support my husband at the time was not able to be with me for the delivery

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I had my mom and my 18 year old sister there and I just

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By sheer luck things went well. It was not knowledge of my own or the proper support that

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Led me to realize several things one. You can have a very positive experience even in the hospital

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Which was not my first choice. I had wanted to do a birth center birth or a home birth

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And so I was transferred to the hospital due to some risks in my pregnancy

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and also it's possible to have a

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super successful happy positive birth in a setting that you didn't necessarily choose or want and

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Support helps a lot

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And so I wanted other women to not feel so alone in whatever their situation or choices were and that's how I got into

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birth work 32 years ago

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32 years of yeah

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It's been a minute

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So what happened after that when you got into this space? What did you do? I spent 12 years as a birth assistant

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I worked predominantly with a midwifery agency. I was a lactation consultant

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I ran Lilleche League meeting so I was supporting women a lot postpartum and with the breastfeeding relationship and also

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prenatally in the clinic setting with midwives and at home births and I loved it after 12 years

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Unfortunately, I had to take a step back from that from birth work, which was one of the most

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challenging

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Periods of time couple years in my adult life. I was divorced

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I had moved to a new location and I needed a job that was steady income and more steady hours

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Which is another reason that my vision is so important now

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I I'm older my kids are mostly adults but doulas coming into the workforce have younger children and

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getting that steady income so that they can actually

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Be a doula as a job that contributes to the family's finances that I wouldn't have had to give it up if

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Things had been like they are now back when I stopped and then a few years ago

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I was really blessed to be able to go back to birth work something

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I didn't think I would ever be able to do I feel very grateful. We made changes in our family dynamic

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I'm remarried now and

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To make that happen and I just think if I could if the process could be more

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Streamlined a little faster a little easier a little more supported for the doulas

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Then it's something that they could do even with a small young family