Well, Christina, tell me about your vision.
My vision, great question.
My big vision is I am inspired to reach millions of people
through the lens of money.
So I want the world to become a better place by people
having a better relationship with money, to understand money,
and where money produces far less conflict, anxiety,
depression, and upset in family structures and individuals,
and entrepreneurs for that matter.
Yeah, well, I love that.
It's one of those topics that people shy away from.
And it's one of those topics people often
aren't comfortable diving into.
So where did your vision come from?
Well, that's a long story.
But I've been interested in money for a long time.
So you even referenced it, Rich Dad Poor Dad.
And I got into real estate at a young age.
And I no longer am in real estate,
but that's where I started.
And I was very successful, very ambitious.
I loved making money.
I was goal-oriented.
I was all the things that make a top real estate
agent successful.
And I did that really well.
And I got all the awards.
I was top.
You listed the top 100 most influential real estate agents.
By what source?
I think Inman was probably the source.
Or there's another one that's escaping me.
But the thing is, what I learned was
I could be a top producer and make a high income,
but I was broke at the end of every month.
And then the year would end, and I would be number one
in all categories.
Yet on January 1, I had to start over.
So it confused me.
How was it that I made all that money
and I ended up having tax liens, and I found myself broke
at the end of every month?
And it didn't make sense.
And so it's at a point of crisis, actually,
where I finally decided or realized
there's got to be more to this money game than just working
hard to make a high income, because clearly that's
not working.
So that set me on the path to really learn money.
And it's just been a career long skill I've learned and developed.
And I've got to the place where I became pretty successful at it.
And now I'm at a place where I want to teach it to others.
Yeah, good.
Again, it's one of those things that I
think entrepreneurs need to talk more about
and need to find the education necessary to navigate
those conversations in healthy fashion.
Agreed.
I look at, speaking of Robert Kisaki, Rich Dad Poor Dad,
he had his either near bankruptcy
or he filed for bankruptcy a couple of years ago.
And he's still very much Rich Dad Poor Dad, Robert Kisaki.
He's got great programs.
He's got amazing resources.
And one of the challenges that I have as a podcaster,
and you have this too with your life,
we want to be healers and promoters.
And we also want to be protectors
for the sake of our audience.
And in a private world, in a corporate private environment
where you don't know who's doing what or how,
and there's all sorts of authority and social proof
mechanisms that get accepted without diving into the details,
how do you quantify yourself as an authority on money?
And I mean that in the most respectable ways.
What do you feel gives you that ability
to talk about it in a way that helps people and doesn't harm?
Because there are certain programs out there that I feel
are more harmful than helpful.
Wow, that is such a great question.
I really love that.
And the first reason why I love it
is because there's a really important message in there
that I teach the entrepreneurs that I work with.
And that is before you follow somebody
or before you spend money with them on their quote, unquote
expertise is to make sure they have the life that you want
and that they're living proof of what they're teaching
or talking about is real and that they've done it.
So choose your mentors wisely, basically.
And that is in context, like let's say
in the category of money.
But there's also the life skill piece as well,
or the life piece as well.
This is sometimes we may follow somebody
that is great at business, but their home life is a disaster.
But people follow that methodology like, hey,
be Gary Vee and do be all these things,
is that that's the pinnacle of success
without looking behind the scenes.
And his personal life might be the exact opposite
of what you want.
So the first part of answering that question
is that when we're looking at mentors or leaders, those
that we want to emulate some piece of their business
or life, research who you're following.
So that's the first thing.
I'm not going to talk about me specifically yet.
But in general, whether it's me, whether it's
Jackson, whether whoever it is, is that do your own due
diligence research and make sure from your own best ability
that it looks like they are the real deal,
that they're not scammers.
They've been around for a long time.
I've been around for a long time.
And it's not hard to go look at my reputation
and different things.
And I think one would pretty quickly
be able to realize, oh, she's not going away.
She's been around for 20 years.
She's got success record after success record.
And I can watch podcasts.
I can do all these things.
And I think one can form their opinion pretty quickly
that she seems like she's the real deal.
But I might not be.
But I think that's what most people would land on.
Now, and I guess that's what we're looking for.
Because to your point, in today's day and age,
it's really easy to pull the wool over people's eyes.
And what appears to be true isn't necessarily true.
And I know that because I see the books of a lot of,
let's say, influencers that look like they're making tons
of money on the outside.
I see the books.
And on the inside, it is a financial shit show.
So I see a lot of that.
Now, they come to me to help them.
And I can help them fix a lot of that.
Or at least get congruent and be able to have integrity
when it comes to the money piece.
But what gives me credibility, or I guess authority,
is that I teach what I've done.
And ultimately, what I teach is financial freedom.
And I've created that for myself.
And so anybody that works for me,
I teach them the mindset and the skill
set of what I learned over 20 years of, first of all,
studying money and failing and trying
to learn some more and succeed and failing again.
And that didn't work.
And this didn't work.
Until finally, after 20 years of trial and error and education
and work and all the things that we do as entrepreneurs,
is finally getting the code that worked
and creating that for myself.
And again, that's all I teach.
I teach what I've done.
And I teach it in a way that is duplicatable,
that anybody can do it.
All of the formula aspects of wealth and success
that I gravitate towards, that I've
seen in my humble formulas, you hit them all
in that conversation.
And I get to play color commentator,
which is fun, because I look like the one who
found the smart thing, or I look like the one who's nitpicking.
And in reality, you paved such a beautiful answer for that,
that it's just my way of honoring it.
And you mentioned the external success track record.
But then later, you talked about the failures
you've been through.
To me, it's the reality of the person
who will admit the failures, who is able to talk about those.
I know not everybody's scripture-oriented,
but Job, his track record said he was the worst at what he did.
In reality, he was the best.
And so I'm grateful for all the wisdom you shared there
about doing your reference checks,
seeing are they the type of person
that you want to live like.
My favorite book on that subject, I can't reach it,
is As a Man Thinketh.
And it talks about exactly what you talked about,
recognizing that just because somebody's financial realities
are what you want, you may want to be careful in assessing
that they have the lifestyle that you want as well.
Super well said.
Well, thank you.
And that's one of my favorite all-time books, by the way.
So I think that's a must-read for everyone.
Yes.
Thank you for being here today.
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