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Well, Christina, tell me about your vision.

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My vision, great question.

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My big vision is I am inspired to reach millions of people

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through the lens of money.

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So I want the world to become a better place by people

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having a better relationship with money, to understand money,

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and where money produces far less conflict, anxiety,

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depression, and upset in family structures and individuals,

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and entrepreneurs for that matter.

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Yeah, well, I love that.

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It's one of those topics that people shy away from.

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And it's one of those topics people often

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aren't comfortable diving into.

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So where did your vision come from?

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Well, that's a long story.

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But I've been interested in money for a long time.

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So you even referenced it, Rich Dad Poor Dad.

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And I got into real estate at a young age.

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And I no longer am in real estate,

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but that's where I started.

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And I was very successful, very ambitious.

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I loved making money.

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I was goal-oriented.

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I was all the things that make a top real estate

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agent successful.

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And I did that really well.

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And I got all the awards.

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I was top.

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You listed the top 100 most influential real estate agents.

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By what source?

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I think Inman was probably the source.

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Or there's another one that's escaping me.

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But the thing is, what I learned was

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I could be a top producer and make a high income,

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but I was broke at the end of every month.

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And then the year would end, and I would be number one

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in all categories.

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Yet on January 1, I had to start over.

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So it confused me.

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How was it that I made all that money

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and I ended up having tax liens, and I found myself broke

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at the end of every month?

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And it didn't make sense.

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And so it's at a point of crisis, actually,

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where I finally decided or realized

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there's got to be more to this money game than just working

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hard to make a high income, because clearly that's

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not working.

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So that set me on the path to really learn money.

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And it's just been a career long skill I've learned and developed.

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And I've got to the place where I became pretty successful at it.

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And now I'm at a place where I want to teach it to others.

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Yeah, good.

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Again, it's one of those things that I

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think entrepreneurs need to talk more about

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and need to find the education necessary to navigate

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those conversations in healthy fashion.

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Agreed.

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I look at, speaking of Robert Kisaki, Rich Dad Poor Dad,

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he had his either near bankruptcy

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or he filed for bankruptcy a couple of years ago.

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And he's still very much Rich Dad Poor Dad, Robert Kisaki.

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He's got great programs.

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He's got amazing resources.

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And one of the challenges that I have as a podcaster,

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and you have this too with your life,

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we want to be healers and promoters.

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And we also want to be protectors

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for the sake of our audience.

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And in a private world, in a corporate private environment

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where you don't know who's doing what or how,

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and there's all sorts of authority and social proof

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mechanisms that get accepted without diving into the details,

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how do you quantify yourself as an authority on money?

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And I mean that in the most respectable ways.

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What do you feel gives you that ability

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to talk about it in a way that helps people and doesn't harm?

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Because there are certain programs out there that I feel

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are more harmful than helpful.

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Wow, that is such a great question.

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I really love that.

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And the first reason why I love it

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is because there's a really important message in there

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that I teach the entrepreneurs that I work with.

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And that is before you follow somebody

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or before you spend money with them on their quote, unquote

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expertise is to make sure they have the life that you want

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and that they're living proof of what they're teaching

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or talking about is real and that they've done it.

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So choose your mentors wisely, basically.

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And that is in context, like let's say

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in the category of money.

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But there's also the life skill piece as well,

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or the life piece as well.

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This is sometimes we may follow somebody

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that is great at business, but their home life is a disaster.

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But people follow that methodology like, hey,

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be Gary Vee and do be all these things,

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is that that's the pinnacle of success

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without looking behind the scenes.

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And his personal life might be the exact opposite

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of what you want.

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So the first part of answering that question

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is that when we're looking at mentors or leaders, those

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that we want to emulate some piece of their business

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or life, research who you're following.

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So that's the first thing.

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I'm not going to talk about me specifically yet.

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But in general, whether it's me, whether it's

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Jackson, whether whoever it is, is that do your own due

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diligence research and make sure from your own best ability

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that it looks like they are the real deal,

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that they're not scammers.

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They've been around for a long time.

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I've been around for a long time.

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And it's not hard to go look at my reputation

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and different things.

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And I think one would pretty quickly

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be able to realize, oh, she's not going away.

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She's been around for 20 years.

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She's got success record after success record.

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And I can watch podcasts.

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I can do all these things.

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And I think one can form their opinion pretty quickly

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that she seems like she's the real deal.

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But I might not be.

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But I think that's what most people would land on.

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Now, and I guess that's what we're looking for.

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Because to your point, in today's day and age,

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it's really easy to pull the wool over people's eyes.

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And what appears to be true isn't necessarily true.

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And I know that because I see the books of a lot of,

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let's say, influencers that look like they're making tons

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of money on the outside.

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I see the books.

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And on the inside, it is a financial shit show.

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So I see a lot of that.

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Now, they come to me to help them.

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And I can help them fix a lot of that.

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Or at least get congruent and be able to have integrity

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when it comes to the money piece.

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But what gives me credibility, or I guess authority,

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is that I teach what I've done.

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And ultimately, what I teach is financial freedom.

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And I've created that for myself.

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And so anybody that works for me,

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I teach them the mindset and the skill

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set of what I learned over 20 years of, first of all,

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studying money and failing and trying

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to learn some more and succeed and failing again.

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And that didn't work.

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And this didn't work.

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Until finally, after 20 years of trial and error and education

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and work and all the things that we do as entrepreneurs,

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is finally getting the code that worked

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and creating that for myself.

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And again, that's all I teach.

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I teach what I've done.

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And I teach it in a way that is duplicatable,

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that anybody can do it.

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All of the formula aspects of wealth and success

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that I gravitate towards, that I've

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seen in my humble formulas, you hit them all

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in that conversation.

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And I get to play color commentator,

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which is fun, because I look like the one who

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found the smart thing, or I look like the one who's nitpicking.

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And in reality, you paved such a beautiful answer for that,

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that it's just my way of honoring it.

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And you mentioned the external success track record.

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But then later, you talked about the failures

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you've been through.

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To me, it's the reality of the person

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who will admit the failures, who is able to talk about those.

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I know not everybody's scripture-oriented,

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but Job, his track record said he was the worst at what he did.

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In reality, he was the best.

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And so I'm grateful for all the wisdom you shared there

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about doing your reference checks,

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seeing are they the type of person

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that you want to live like.

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My favorite book on that subject, I can't reach it,

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is As a Man Thinketh.

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And it talks about exactly what you talked about,

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recognizing that just because somebody's financial realities

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are what you want, you may want to be careful in assessing

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that they have the lifestyle that you want as well.

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Super well said.

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Well, thank you.

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And that's one of my favorite all-time books, by the way.

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So I think that's a must-read for everyone.

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Yes.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

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as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.