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Jared Gainham, lead trainer, self mastery for men, also affiliated with Tony Robbins.

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Tell me about your vision.

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Yeah, so it was 2018-19 and I had just been through a divorce.

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I had just been through basically bankruptcy of my business.

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I was doing really well at the time and I just kind of hit rock bottom.

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It was one of those moments where it was like I felt like I was failing in every single

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category as a man.

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And I knew that I had potential but I didn't know how to let it out.

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And what I decided to do was like if I can literally help myself out, if I can figure

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a way out of this and master myself in some way, I'm going to turn around because it can't

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just be me.

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There's other men that are feeling this way.

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If I can turn around and turn my life around in a positive way, I'm going to dedicate my

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life essentially to turning around and helping other men do the same thing.

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That's awesome.

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Well, that's awesome.

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And I say that as a man who was also divorced February of 2018.

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So the silver, a good friend of mine, John Whaley, fantastic consultant, calls it the

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silver road of progress instead of the silver lining.

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And I was like that is so spot on to know.

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So you went through that divorce.

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One of my friends said, Jackson, I'm not worried about you because you don't drink.

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And I was like, well, you got a good point.

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What was it like for you though?

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There were some really hard aspects of that.

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How did you get through that?

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Was it easy?

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Did you have falls?

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Did you skyrocket to success immediately?

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No, I think I hit every branch on the way down.

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I think that's what happened.

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So I'm the type of guy where I'm a coach.

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I help people and my ex-wife had a ton of problems.

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And I was like, well, if I can't save her, then who am I as a coach?

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So I kind of went down with the ship.

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I had addiction issues.

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And it took everything in my power to actually end up leaving.

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And I finally did.

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But when I did, I was 80 pounds overweight due to all the stress.

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I was close to six figures in debt because simultaneous, when it rains, it pours.

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My biggest client at the time, I was doing large scale video production in arenas, like

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MMA events, UFC fight pass.

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I had camera cranes and instant replay and I had production.

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So I had high overhead.

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My biggest client stops paying me.

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It goes on.

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So now I'm on the hook for all of this overhead.

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And I have no place to stay because I'm in significant debt.

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My parents let me stay at their condo, but it was an over 65 community and they weren't

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living there.

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So I was getting threatened to be evicted.

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So I had to hide in the dark essentially from that.

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So it was really, really bad.

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And I just thought though, like I'm a man, obviously.

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And it's one of those things where it's like men think that the most obvious thing is the

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solution.

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The solution was, well, if I just change my environment, if I get out of the bad relationship,

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it's going to heal everything.

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But it didn't, right?

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Because wherever you go, you go with you.

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I still had all my own stuff that I hadn't dealt with.

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I'm like, okay, well then maybe I'll work on some strategies or tactics.

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So I'm going to try to build a business or I'm going to try to go to the gym.

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What I found out though, and this is actually what transformed it for me.

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It was like, I told you it was 3 a.m. and I'm figuring this out.

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I realized that every problem in my life came down to either a decision that I had made

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or failed to make.

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So a decision that either to stay or the decision to not set a boundary.

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And then I said, okay, well, every decision that I've made or failed to make is because

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of my thought process.

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And I go, well, where does that come from?

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That comes from my conditioning, from how I grew up.

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And I go, okay, well then so what is conditioning?

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And I go, oh my God.

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It's what I believe I am.

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I go, everything in my life, I might not have liked it, but at some level, I believe that's

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either what I deserve or that's how I'm identified.

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And so I realized I go, you don't get what you want.

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You get what you believe.

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I'll say it again.

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You don't get what you want.

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You get who you believe you are and you get what you believe that you deserve.

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And so what I did was I go, it's not about changing my environment.

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It's not about tactics or strategy or trying to get the latest magic bullet fix or something

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like that.

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I need to literally change my self-concept and what I believe myself to be.

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And if I can get a handle on that, everything will change almost by osmosis.

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And when I really got a handle on that, what happened was I still had to do the work.

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I still had to go to the gym.

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I still had to start a business and things like that.

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But because the perception, the identity had changed, everything that used to be like pushing

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a boulder up a hill was suddenly very easy.

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And I was able to get out of debt very, very quickly.

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I was able to turn around.

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I'm in a different relationship.

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I turned around that aspect of my life.

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My business was doing great.

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I'm doing six figures again in a different business helping men.

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But everybody focused on the tactics and the strategies and what's the cool thing of the

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day when it's really the principles and the energy behind it which makes a difference.

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I love that.

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There's so many principles of wisdom that you talked about on that path and that journey

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to uncover your next levels.

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I'll add a little color commentating to it.

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New perspective and you feel free to challenge it.

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The process of growth is to mathematicians, right?

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Writing on chalkboards and realizing, oh, wait, his formula.

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Oh, his formula.

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You get to share that stuff.

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So Jared, one of the stories that came to mind as you talked about that that I think

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is often overlooked in the coaching world though is the story of Job.

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Now granted, I believe the story and happen to have that belief set.

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But with Job, here's this man that was deemed perfect who all the variables in his life

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were correct.

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He was following the principles.

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He was doing the tactics, doing the strategies, doing everything that he needed to and yet

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even still everything in his life that was outside of his internal control was going

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completely south.

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And when his wife said, why don't you just curse God and die?

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And basically all his friends said, hey, this is all your fault.

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You're the bad guy in this situation.

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He came back and he said, God giveth, God taketh away.

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And I'm not going to give up on my internal commitment to who I am even though the external

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is not showcasing the results, so to speak, that the world can easily judge and say, oh,

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man, that guy's awesome.

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Look at what he's done.

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So how does if that maybe you believe the story is a myth, but my question for you is

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how does your process align with that or is it truly, no, if you do A, B will happen?

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It's not if you do A, B will happen.

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I've had to reverse engineer this because as I was doing it, it's like unconscious competence.

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I'm just doing it.

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And now that I've had the benefit of some time away on the other side of it, I'm able

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to look back at it with a fresh set of eyes.

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I'm like, well, what really made the difference?

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And the one thing that made a difference in all of it was I had a tremendous amount of

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purpose and you can call it faith, right?

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It's not necessarily a faith in a particular religion or anything.

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I just believe faith has a definition, it's action and a belief.

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There you go.

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So what I came to was I somehow I adopted at a very early age, everything for some reason

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is happening for my highest benefit.

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What can I learn from this?

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And I had a purpose and even since I was a child, my purpose was how can I help people?

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How can I serve people?

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And even when everything was falling apart, the question was how can I use this to help

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other people?

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So I created a framework.

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It's a framework, right?

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Like everybody has a framework, but I'm just sharing with you mine.

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It's been useful for me.

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I call it the seven levels of self mastery and everything is important on this list.

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And what I've noticed is the head of the list tends to pull the train.

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And so what it is, is number one above all is your purpose or your mission, your spiritual

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vision, right?

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I'm going to have you pause and reveal this on the full show as well, because this is

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fantastic.

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I definitely want to hear the framework.

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They're super important for the sake of segments, though.

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We're going to put a pin in that one.

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I do want to, I might tie these things together.

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So if we look at, if we go back and we look at the story behind your why, and I still

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want to tie it back to this angle though.

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Your why's, you have a lot of them, I can tell that.

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You're super deep.

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And that's a huge thing because you got a structured set of reasons and purposes for

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why you do things.

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So as you think about the stories behind it that have propelled you to where you are,

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I'm still going to tie that back to that question of, okay, so you've got these principles that

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you're now, you've now gravitated.

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You've got your purpose.

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If all of the, if all of the accolades and all of the life accomplishments, the byproducts,

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the variables that you associate with the effort and the work that you put in, were

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not happening, would you still have your commitment to stay focused on doing the right things,

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so to speak?

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Where would you take that?

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Yeah, because I think one of my number one values is congruency.

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And for me, the reason why I even tried to improve my life in the first place was because

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I knew there was a version of me as a man, like not an accolade or a thing, but my own

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inner potential and my own blocks and barriers.

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And so it's called self mastery for men.

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It's because I did it for myself.

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It's like, I know there's a version of me.

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How do I get that out?

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And it's all about potential and self actualization, really.

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So it doesn't, I really don't, I don't know if you can tell by my energy.

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I don't care about accolades or, or esteem or massive outwardly success.

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You need that, especially in the world today.

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But for me, this has all been an inward journey of just discovery and doing the right thing

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and congruence and being true to your word.

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I think what's cool about what you said is, and I'm with you on this, it doesn't actually

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matter if I can tell or not, right?

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It matters that you were there with that.

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And at the same time, that's why I ask you hard questions.

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Cause I'm like, this guy's got it.

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So I'm making this a little deeper than most people because you're, I'm like, I want to

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eat into the very best of what Jared has to offer and you're crushing it for me.

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So thank you for teaching me a lot.

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You're welcome.

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And thank you.

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And you mentioned the story of Joe about a friend of mine.

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He's awesome.

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He goes, you know, be careful what you wish for it.

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Cause you literally, you will literally get it.

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And he said that in a good way though.

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And I remember cause you mentioned Tony Robbins, you mentioned Job.

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I was at a Tony Robbins seminar.

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It might've been 2017 or 16 and my life was going well.

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You know, I had a good business.

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I was still married.

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The woman I was married to was my college sweetheart.

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It wasn't perfect, but things were good.

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I'm like, man, things are really good.

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What's the next level?

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And like, you know what, man, Tony's on stage.

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He seems like he has his act together.

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I want mastery at that level.

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That'd be awesome, right?

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And I just thought it would be you learn and grow and the universe is like, Hey, congratulations.

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Everything's falling apart and now you have to figure it out.

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But I would have never gotten to the path I'm on now had none of that stuff happened.

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So I always look, you can only connect the dots looking backwards sometimes.

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And I would have never been here if none of that stuff happened.

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I look at it that way.

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Super, super well said.

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Tony Robbins, again, 2017.

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That's when I watched I Am Not Your Guru.

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I watched it with a notebook and took notes.

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And one of the most important notes I wrote in there was a goal to be the best husband

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I possibly could be the best I could at that.

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And I hadn't done that before.

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I mean, I had been the best father.

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I had been a good husband, maybe even a great, but not the best I could.

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And he inspired that.

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And it led to me realizing how I could be a better leader in all my relationships and

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show up the right way.

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So huge shout out to that grateful to hear that you've been involved.

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I only watched the Netflix version of it.

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You've been involved in a much deeper level.

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So I can really appreciate that.

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We're going to go to a couple more questions.

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One, where are you going with your vision from here?

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Where I'm going is I want to help as many men as possible transform their lives in a

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positive way.

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With masculinity, there's like two camps right now.

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It's like people that are super, super nice guys, and they've kind of abdicated their

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power.

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But then there's the pendulum where it's that goes super hyper alpha masculine and uncaring.

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So what I've discovered is if you can integrate that, you got to have both a little bit of

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a backbone and you got to have your heart online at the same time.

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And so I'm all about helping men authentically become their masculine self, not for power

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or but so they can have internal power in a healthy way.

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And then not only that, but I want to really help people set free from their own perceived

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limitations.

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Because of my own limitations in the past, I've had to discover the most rapid ways of

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helping somebody overcome them.

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I've developed a process that's called a breakthrough session.

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It can really help somebody get rid of a lot of negative conditioning in a very short amount

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of time.

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So I help men with that.

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I've been getting more speaking opportunities.

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I've spoken for Tony, which is a full circle moment.

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Thank you, man.

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When I was in my parents condo 3am, I'm like, one day I'm going to go from where I am now

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to maybe I'll speak on stage for Tony one day.

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And it actually happened.

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And I was like, oh my god, this is really happening, which is nuts.

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And so I'm getting a few more of those.

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And so I just want to start to build the vision even more and flesh it out and help even more

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people and bring it to a much, much larger scale.

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That's awesome.

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Do you have a goal for being on the show?

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The goal is to awareness, put myself out there, share with people, share my story, hopefully

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inspire some people, make connections with you.

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You know, Joe, Joe's a great guy.

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Joe's a connector.

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It's a skill that I don't necessarily have.

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I'm more of a.

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I'm out to results for Joe.com.

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Joe gets that guy.

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So I mean, Joe is he's a connector.

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So I'm looking forward to, you know, getting to know you better and opportunities that

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come from it and so on.

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Oh, man, Jared, I might fire hose you a little too much.

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I am a connector through and through that is my super power.

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So let's yeah, feel free to leverage that.

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All of you listening to this to same thing.

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I love connecting great people.

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That's what I like.

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Oh, cool.

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You can be great with this person.

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And I hope things come of it.

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So we're going to dive into.

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If that was a segment for the show, I was telling you that me and you personally.

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But if you wanted to give me an answer for the show, I'd have to give you an answer for

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the show.

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Oh, well, I mean, that's I think it's great how it was for the show.

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You're cool.

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You're cool with that?

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Anytime the little prompts on there, we're going to use all those segments as their own

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podcasts.

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We literally have already filmed five or six podcast episodes.

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OK, cool.

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So we're going to go to the next one.

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This is the last one.

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Double headed question.

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Feel free to hit back.

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This question is obviously leading the witness.

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And therefore, if you don't agree with it, let us know.

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Why do leaders hide from funding their visions and how can leaders lean into funding the

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vision?

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Why do they hide from funding their vision?

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Number one would be uncertainty.

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Number two would be lack of faith.

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They talked about identity.

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You have a purpose and a vision, which is strong.

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But if you don't believe you're the person that can fulfill it, you won't do it.

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There'll be hesitation.

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There'll be procrastination.

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You won't have faith in it.

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You won't put money there.

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And so people, they do affirmations.

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And I believe this and I believe that.

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And they try to hype themselves up.

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But no matter how much you hype yourself up, if you don't internally identify as the person

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that can fulfill the vision, you're not going to.

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So I think a lot of it is just it's fear.

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It's uncertainty.

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It's not having enough faith in themselves.

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It's not having the internal identity.

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And how can people overcome that?

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I just talked with another coach.

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Ironically enough, like I'm a coach that helps men and coaches enjoy working with me because

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they feel like I get it.

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And I had a coach and he works for a prestigious coaching company.

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And he's like, I want to work with you.

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I'm going to pay in full right there.

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I didn't even have a sales call with him.

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He just goes.

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I'm going to say real quick.

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There's actually no irony in that.

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LeBron James has like 40 coaches.

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So I hear people say, I don't I already have a coach.

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I'm like, oh, you have somebody who's toxically hanging on to you for dear life.

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We need lots of coaches.

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So good.

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Keep going.

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You're the best in the world.

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And coaches have coaches.

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So he saw me on social media.

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He knew what the offer was.

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He sent me a message on Facebook like maybe three months ago.

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He goes, I'm in.

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Let me save money.

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He called me today, paid in full.

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I never had a full enrollment call with him.

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Nothing.

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And I seriously I asked him, I go, what was it that made you decide to do?

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I go, you'd be surprised, man.

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A lot of people say that they want to do stuff, but they wait six months a year.

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They never do it.

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I go, why?

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Why now?

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And he's like, I'm booked up until August.

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I'm going to book you now for August.

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So that way it's in.

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And I'm like, what?

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Tell me your thought process here.

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He goes, well, I'm a coach and I know the number one thing in my clients is resistance

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and they put stuff off and they don't do it.

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And he goes, you end up manifesting or mirroring in your clients what you don't heal in yourself.

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He goes, if I'm going to expect people to overcome their limitations, limiting beliefs,

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I have to take bold action myself and schedule things and get over my resistance.

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So I'm paying you now.

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And I'm like, wow, that's amazing.

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It was a lesson for me.

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Super wise.

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Yeah.

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So that just happened this morning too.

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So it's an ironic question.

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So it's one of those things where you go first, you do it scared.

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There's a situation one time I told you previously I had a video production business.

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Before I had the video production business, I worked minimum wage at a radio station doing

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video.

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So I was completely redundant and unnecessary.

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But I would video the guests when they came in.

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I got married to my ex that I told you about.

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I went on my honeymoon for a week.

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I came back.

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They realized that I was redundant because I wasn't there and they fired me after my

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honeymoon.

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And so I sent out my resume to a whole bunch of different companies and video production

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companies.

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The one that got back to me was an international MMA production company where I was going to

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be the head of production.

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It was way above my pay grade as a small scale local videographer for a radio station.

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And I was terrified.

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And I remember I had a two bedroom loft apartment with vaulted ceilings.

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And I'm standing in one room, but I can see the refrigerator.

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And I got the call.

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And everything slows down.

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And I go, this is way above my pay grade here.

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But then I go, they're hiring a head of production.

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Either I do it or someone else is going to do it.

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And I'm going to see this on TV.

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If I see this on TV, I'm going to be complaining I could have done it better as an ego thing.

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I go, so I'm just going to do this and do it.

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And I'll figure it out on the way down.

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And it made a principle for me.

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I go, anytime I'm in a situation and it's scary, but it's an opportunity and it's for

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my best good and it offers a lot of growth.

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Even if I don't know how to do it, I take it because I'll figure it out.

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I love that.

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And those of you listening in, this is not an uncommon reality.

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This is a super common reality for those who make success happen.

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When I was at my first job in Austin, when I moved as a married man with Spoon Chapman,

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and they asked me in the interview, I was going to do Spanish surveys for evaluating

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benefits packages.

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And she said, do you know how to do PowerPoints?

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I need somebody to do this.

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And I said yes.

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And I went home to my wife and I said, how do you make a PowerPoint?

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So she taught me right there on the spot how to do it.

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I knew what it was.

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I just didn't know if I knew.

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And I knew I could figure it out.

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So I spent the whole night learning PowerPoint.

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And while that was just for a mediocre job that I may have made minimum wage part time,

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it's the principle that has driven me to get to where I don't know how to do a podcast.

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I just did it.

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You know, let's just make it happen.

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So leaning in, it was a fantastic example, Jared.

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Thank you for that.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.

