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Tell me about your vision.

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My vision is to stop women working like men and then broaden it out to everybody having

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their own aligned way of working.

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Many women or women basically entered the workplace which was designed and created for

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and by men and we proved ourselves and have proven that we can work just as well as men

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and now I believe that many successful women are on the verge of burnout and not only do

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they need to realign themselves for themselves but also acknowledge the need of the next

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generation so there's not such a huge gap between successful businesses now and what

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the next generation want and how they want to work.

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I love that.

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In fact, my hope, my grand hope now is to see somebody like Malcolm Gladwell or some

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fantastic researcher write a book on the effects that burnout has had on men over the last

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200, 300 years.

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That would be fascinating to see and learn about and what amazing wisdom to recognize

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that women are now heading down that path by adopting a lot of the same pace or same

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principles or desires.

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I need to go meditate on that for a while.

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That's huge.

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How did you get started on this?

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I have had a career in fashion and business.

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I've worked at senior leadership levels.

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I then have had my own business for well over a decade with working with my sister and she's

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actually located in another part of the UK.

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And then I think basically it was a catalyst from the pandemic which I'm sure many people

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have had that I had stopped learning and I basically reopened my brain to knowledge because

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I felt like I was burning out and needed to re-educate myself or bring more knowledge

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in and all of the books and the learnings that I was coming across were very male-orientated

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and I just found that there was this need for us to sort of just re-align ourselves

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and create curiosity as to why we are doing what we're doing.

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I am the person that I'm talking to.

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I went back to work when both my children were three months old and I fought for my

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career.

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I wanted to, I don't know who I was proving to something to, but when I wanted to be a

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career person and a mother and try and create it, balance it all and have it all and I now

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realise that you can have it all but not necessarily at the same time but businesses can support

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that way of thinking hugely.

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How do leaders lean into funding their vision?

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What resources can help them do so?

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Okay.

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I believe that from a female perspective the financial element is kind of a, there's a

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diversity within female leadership and funding their vision.

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I think that women are definitely scared of going to the next level and making that quantum

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leap.

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They need to have this old adage and research of that women need to tick all the boxes or

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feel that they need to tick all the boxes rather than men will kind of go, oh, I can

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do that one thing so therefore I am going to do it.

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We are pretty dumb about what we think we can do.

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It's confidence.

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It's confidence.

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So I personally believe that from a female…

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And arrogance.

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We use some of that too.

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Yeah, fair one.

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However, I'm all about creating rhythm so from a female perspective I think that we

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definitely need to have more confidence in our abilities of our vision to be able to

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make the… from our imagination to it being tangible but also there's a huge area of

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education on finance from… like I know from a personal point of view and also from other

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leaders that I've spoken to that money and finance is… it's a power game that we're

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quite scared of and we've not actually entered yet and we need to… that educational piece

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needs to absolutely happen.

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And I think once you draw out the curtain actually it's not that scary.

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So from my point of view I think that female leaders definitely need to get more confident

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about what they want to do in creating their vision.

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Don't be afraid of failing because actually you learn from your failings and educate yourself

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on finance.

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It's not actually that scary.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for giving us your time

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and attention.

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I hope you're having an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a Vision Pro

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yourself.

