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Tell me about your vision in all of this.

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My goal is to build a portfolio of businesses where I am not in the operations.

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I'm not in the fulfillment and I can focus on the high level strategy building, uh,

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and really create a lifestyle that, that I want.

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Like for example, I don't go to conferences.

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I do zero work travel.

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I've completely eliminated it.

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Sure.

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I'm, I'm pretty confident I could go to a conference and get a bunch of partnerships

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and leads and make it worthwhile, but I'm only interested in running a business that

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doesn't require me to be anywhere or do certain things.

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Even podcasts.

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Like I, I've been on a thousand podcasts.

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I used to do podcasts every single week.

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Now I'm a little bit more picky and I do them here and there.

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So I'm trying to really build a bit of portfolio businesses that run without me

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for the most part with really good people that have a five star experience for our

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clients.

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Well, that makes all the sense in the world.

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Does being a father of a one year old have anything to do with that too?

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Now that you're a, you have someone chase around traveling probably isn't the

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ideal thing, right?

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Definitely.

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I mean, when I was in my twenties, I was hustling.

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If you asked me to go on a podcast, I would do five a day.

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I'd go to every possible conference.

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I'd work nights.

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I'd work weekends.

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My wife that just walked in the room.

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I'm lucky she didn't break up with me at the time because I was always

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working always on my phone.

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Uh, but now it like three o'clock rolls around.

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I'm not working anymore.

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I don't take calls on weekends.

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Like I'm very specific on what I do and don't get me wrong.

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We put a lot of time and effort into our companies.

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We care a lot about our clients and the experience that we're always

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trying to improve it.

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Uh, but there, there are certain limitations around that too, where it

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doesn't consume every single second of my life.

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Absolutely.

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And it's, um, a lot of people call it the work life balance and, uh, being

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able to, to manage that.

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And it sounds like you've, but you've had so many companies.

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Uh, is it, is it something you ended up having to learn?

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Like you said, you were, you were out there and hustling back in, back

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in the days or in the twenties.

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Is it something you really had to learn to stop and just think about it?

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Yeah.

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I think every entrepreneur struggles with it.

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And I mean, my advice, if you're listening, it is hustle.

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When you, when you have no responsibilities, if you don't have a

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wife, if you don't have kids, if you don't have lots of things that, that

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require your time, like go out there, do everything it takes, but you're

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going to burn out at some point.

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There has to be an end game in mind, whether you're exiting your

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company or whatever it is.

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And when you get into your thirties and forties, if you're still hustling, if

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you're still working 90 hours a week or whatever it is, like that's not where

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you want to be, so when you're young, that's the time to take risks and go all

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out and spend all your time on whatever you're passionate about.

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I agree 100%.

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So this is one of those cliche or typical question.

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What's your why?

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My why is you can only help other people if you're able to help yourself first.

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All the people that work for any of my companies, because the company is

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profitable and it's good for my business partner and I, then it's good for them

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as well, and we want to build a family within our business that supports them

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and helps everyone around us.

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We want to create win-wins for us, for our team and for our clients.

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And that's what we always look for where we're growing together.

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We're all improving year after year together.

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And also that just that lifestyle and freedom, like we gave our, it's a

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holiday here in the U S on Monday.

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We gave our team that extra day on Friday so they can rest and recharge and have

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that work-life balance that we preach that we have, and we want to build, we

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want to be able to help as many people as possible through that.

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We want to grow businesses.

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We want to make money, but we want to help a lot of people on the way doing that.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions to the future of vision.

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Seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show and thank you for

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giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a

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vision pro yourself.