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What's your goal for being on the show?

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I want to empower more people to discover their full potential.

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And when they do, they are going to make a massive transformation in themselves and the world.

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Awesome. That's fair.

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What are you hoping to provide them to empower them to find that beyond?

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Is it truly like the principle driven message?

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Are there assets as well as resources that you're providing?

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Motivation.

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Also a free strategy call for those that are interested in publishing their book.

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I can help them to discover at least the main idea that they want to share to millions of people.

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And that's something I can do relatively quickly, at least the topic.

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Because once you know the topic and once you understand fully the angle and who you are targeting,

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as a client to read your book, then it becomes so much easier for you to be aligned

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and to find your calling and your path in life as well.

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And you can do that even in 45 minutes talking to me.

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You can discover what your message is and then how to share it with millions of people.

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And then you can go off on your own and figure it out or you can work with me to continue that journey.

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Awesome.

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We're going to dive in deep on that subject.

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So I'm looking for your wisdom as a provider, also having worked with a lot of book publishers

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and been behind the scenes on some pretty awesome book launches.

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My question for you based on a story.

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I met this lady at a conference when I was a much younger executive and she gave me her card

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and she emphasized that her book was an Amazon bestseller and how great that was.

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And she presented herself as an amazing leader.

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I think she probably is an amazing leader.

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But my instinct was to go and look on Amazon to get that book.

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And I was really excited to honor her.

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And I went to the book page and her book was free.

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And I immediately felt like, okay, you just said you're a bestselling author

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and you have a free book out there.

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Then I started to look a little bit deeper at publishing.

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And I see a lot of people promoting books and they've had the book out for two months,

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maybe two years, and they've got two to four reviews on the book launch.

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And it's one of those same scenarios of, wait a second, you know,

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this person is talking about their book like it's Sink and Grow Rich.

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But the audience is wondering, well, if it's that great,

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where is everybody that's supposed to be supporting this book launch?

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I don't think many people want to launch a book that nobody reads

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or launch a book that doesn't ever get found.

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How do we help people who want to publish books make sure that it aligns

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with their dreams of what do they want to accomplish?

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And I'm sure people have different spectrums of what they want to accomplish.

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But I think most people say, oh, I don't really want to be on the New York Times

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because they have too many people who come at them and say, well,

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you're never going to make the New York Times list.

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You're not a good enough writer.

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Who do you think you are to have a book as great as Tony Robbins?

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And so they just kind of, you know, I just want to get published.

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I don't want to actually do anything beyond that.

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You have full rights to challenge my perspective and say, Jackson, you're wrong.

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And you can also talk about the strategies if you want to.

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But how do we help people publish a book that is high quality

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and move past the vanity and publish for the right reasons?

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What are we missing here?

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Great question.

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The first thing to know is that you want to write a book

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that is for your ideal target market.

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Now, it doesn't matter if you have even two reviews on your book

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because as long as you can get this book into the hands of people,

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even if you don't have reviews.

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Now, I do admit that if you have at least a hundred reviews on Amazon,

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it's going to help you dramatically in terms of getting recurring sales

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and even turning your book into an asset that makes recurring money.

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But my focus for a long time has been not that,

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but just looking at creating a book that you can use as a speaker,

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that you can use as a business card to connect with, let's say,

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speaker agencies, to connect with, let's say, property landlords,

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if you are a letting agent, to connect with more business people

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you desire to attract for your business.

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Now, of course, if you have reviews and if you have a lot of sales,

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yes, it can help you to reach more people.

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But I want to emphasize that even if you have only sold or even gifted 20 books

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and if your book looks great, and I'm emphasizing in particular the cover,

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if it has your face on the cover and a great title

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that your ideal target market feels aligned with,

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you can still make a killing even gifting your book to 20 people

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because you have to consider who are those 20 people.

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And if you are going to gift your book to a speaker agency

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that let's say you gift this book and it costs you £2.50 or let's say $4,

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and you end up getting recurring gigs where you get paid £5,000

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for an hour of speaking, or you end up getting invited to speak in front of 500 people,

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even if you speak for free, you don't get paid anything,

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you still have the opportunity of sharing your message in front of 500 people.

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And then what you'll find is that you will be speaking in front of 500 people

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and those 500 people will refer you to other hundreds of people for you to speak

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and all of a sudden your message is reaching thousands and thousands of people.

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And all of a sudden you will start meeting film producers who have...

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You say the word will, but I want to come into that a little bit.

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I like the path, but you said if they get the 5,000,

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I think people overlook the if a lot of times

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because we're just such heavy promoters of what we love to do.

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I think it's also important that people, like us as providers,

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we ask people what their goals are, right?

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About like what if their goal isn't to just get people to buy from them, right?

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It is to be a legacy book.

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And I'm with you, if the book is just a legacy

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and they want their friends and family to read it,

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then maybe they don't need the testimonials in that case either, right?

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The reviews online.

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But I think it is very important as providers that we create

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a path that is reasonable in terms of what the reality

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versus their anticipations could be.

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And so, yeah, you might get a $5,000 speaking gig

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if you're super in line with law of manifestation

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as you talked about law of attractiveness.

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You might get a TV deal if you learn what you need to pursue that,

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but there's a whole lot of assumptions around infrastructure

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that also have to be in place or again,

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dedication to this manifestation aspect in order to have those outcomes.

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But the reason why I caution that for my show

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and for Vision Pro's live audiences hearing this

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is because 96% of businesses fail within 10 years.

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And 4% after you talk to the ones who've survived 10 years,

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most of them are still struggling.

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And if you actually talk to and call the 10 published book,

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like 10 authors and ask them, how is your book publishing?

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Did you get on the stage for the $5,000?

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Did you get your book produced into a movie?

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The odds are far, far, far against the individual of making that happen.

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So I do think there's a necessary balance on,

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yes, there is the ability to win the lottery by buying the lottery ticket,

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but I think that needs to be combined with us as providers in terms of like,

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all right, well, how do we combine that with the reality that it's not easy

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to do all the things that you said?

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I love your tenacity. You've done it.

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You speak a foreign language.

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You've lived in foreign countries.

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You've moved internationally.

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You have a gift of tenacity that most people I meet don't have.

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So what is the typical outcome that somebody has when they publish a book?

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Great question.

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So the typical outcome for all my authors is that they start speaking at one of my events.

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It doesn't matter if it's in front of 50 people or 200 people or 250 people.

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What matters is that they speak one time and because they speak one time

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and my network already has influencers and organizers of other events.

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For example, at my last event, I had the promoter of Les Brown.

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Now this promoter of Les Brown to organize an event with 1,300 people

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and I spoke at that event with my partner as well.

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So let's say you are seen at that last event by her,

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then you kind of start to do these introductions and you start to see,

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okay, what is possible?

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And then all of my authors, even housewives,

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even housewives who have never worked before,

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who had major accidents or been in a coma,

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have spoken in front of at least 10,000 people worldwide.

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And that's because you, at least in London, this is how it goes.

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There's a lot of opportunity.

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All of your authors have spoke in front of at least 10,000?

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Yes.

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All of my authors have spoken at least in front of 10,000 people

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because they were invited first to speak in London.

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I was organizing events in Singapore, in Ireland,

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and then I was also invited to speak in Mexico.

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And at those events, I was inviting them as well.

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Some of them decided to go.

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Some of them decided not to go.

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And I even was invited to speak in Dubai,

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and I invited 20 authors to go there.

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Only five of them accepted.

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So it's like the opportunities are always there,

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but do you always, do you want,

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I think there's an element of you as an author wanting to take those opportunities.

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And there's a big fear element.

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And I've had tremendous fear of public speaking,

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so much so that I have missed so many opportunities.

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You cannot possibly imagine.

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One opportunity I missed is that there is this guy,

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his name is Richard Tan.

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He organizes events for Tony Robbins.

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He has 10 million attendees per year for his, you know,

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for bringing Robert Kiyosaki and Tony Robbins and all the big speakers come.

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And he asked me and a group of other 20 people,

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who would like to introduce me tonight?

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Now, he looked specifically at me because he saw me as one of the best there,

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but my personal confidence was so terrible.

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I didn't put my hand up initially.

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I kind of just put my hand sheepishly, almost like not wanting to be chosen.

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So it's like you get offered these opportunities.

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First, if you believe in them,

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and second, if the opportunity comes and you do take it, okay?

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And I really think that everyone gets offered tremendous opportunities.

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But let's say sometimes you're in this room of a thousand people

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and you're listening to someone talk about anything, okay?

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You go there because you're there to learn and you have no money in your pocket.

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You still have an opportunity and the opportunity to put your hand up and ask a question.

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And in that opportunity of one minute or 30 seconds, you can say,

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Hi, I'm Pedro.

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By the way, I'm a handyman or I fix roofs or I know I'm a property agent or whatever.

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So in that moment, you have an opportunity to promote yourself

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and to be a speaker.

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And in that opportunity, you can get 50 clients just because you spoke for 30 seconds.

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It's about taking that opportunity and putting yourself in a situation

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where you do attend all these tremendous events.

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And there are hundreds of free events in London that you can attend

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and you have these opportunities all day long.

