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Michael, Sarah, tell me about your vision.

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Wow, you know, what I would love to see in the future

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is a world where there's more love than hate.

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And I think that all comes from people

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just understanding each other.

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And this image behind me is a place

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that I spend a lot of time

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in helping people understand each other,

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and also to share kind of what happened

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in our history here in the US.

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And that is, you know, how we treated a group of people

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because they look like somebody that we were at war with.

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And the reason why I think this story is so important

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is because I find ourselves repeating history.

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And 80 years ago,

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it happened to be Japanese and Japanese Americans.

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Today, it's another ethnic group

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that just happens to be doing something too well

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or finding that, you know, they're in someone's way

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for whatever reason,

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or somebody that looks like them

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happened to attack our country in a bad way.

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And so everybody that looks like them,

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they assume are like them.

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And so they take advantage of that.

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And that to me is really sad

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because the US is made up of immigrants,

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unless you're Native American.

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And so we've all come from other countries.

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It's just a matter of when.

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And I think it's a lack of understanding each other

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that creates this tension and this bias and prejudice

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that I hope through communication, through understanding,

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and through learning and talking to one another,

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we can break these barriers down.

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And that for my,

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so that's really my hope and vision for the future

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is that we'll have more love than hate.

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Love that.

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Awesome.

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And now you're the board president

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of the Japanese American Museum of San Jose

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as part of your mission to help drive love forward.

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And I gotta ask you,

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where are you going with your vision?

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So in other words,

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what steps can people take to move towards that love?

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There's a lot of ways that can happen.

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I'll give one example.

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And that is I'm a huge,

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my favorite song right now is by Ed Sheeran.

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And it's called, What Do I Know?

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Most people have never heard that song before

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because it's not radio popular.

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But the essence of the song is,

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love can change the world in a moment.

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What do I know?

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And that's the core theme is that it can change the world,

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but what do I know?

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I'm just a musician.

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Right, so go ahead though.

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Where are we going with this?

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How do we help?

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How do we prevent repeating history?

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You know, I think it starts with education.

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And so I spent a lot of time at the museum as a docent,

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and I share this story with anybody

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that's interested in hearing about it.

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And so as we get visitors coming in,

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you know, I share that story.

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My day job takes me to Japan a lot.

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And with that,

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I have an opportunity to present

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to a lot of university students.

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And so when I'm there in country,

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I will share the story with them.

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And for me, it's important for them

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to also understand that,

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hey, this really happened

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because a lot of times they never hear about this.

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So that's one step.

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And then of course, as visitors come to the area

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and they come visit the museum,

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then we share that story.

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So it's just, again,

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having people understand what happened,

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because a lot of people don't even know this happened.

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And it's just a shame for people not to know.

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And then to understand why this happened,

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and then to prevent it from happening again.

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Yes, absolutely.

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I'm trying to remember of the name of the movie

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that I just watched a few weeks ago.

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I don't know if it was Empire of the Sun,

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or that's probably the wrong movie.

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In it, this man gets engaged to a Japanese girl

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and her family gets detained,

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even though they're Japanese American.

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And she's trying to influence

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the person she got engaged to,

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his father is one of the generals

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and can try to help get them out or whatever.

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And it was a very,

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I like to absorb content like that.

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It helps me understand the paradigm of time periods

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that I can't really relate to,

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or haven't been through myself.

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There's another one about a boy,

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can't remember what the name of the movie was,

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or something about him being able to move a mountain.

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But he ends up befriending an older,

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I'll put this in the reference links,

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but an older Japanese guy who is ostracized and hated

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for no reason.

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And the priest has sent him on a mission

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to go befriend this outcast.

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And it's a really neat story of helping people move

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beyond the prejudice and understand who people are.

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And yeah, it is education that allows us to get past that.

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Yeah, I think it's just understanding and learning.

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Because not understanding why people do certain things,

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it's a shame, right?

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But if you understand their culture

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and why they do the things they do,

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then you get a better understanding.

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And I think a lot of times,

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well, even here in the US, right?

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Unless we go visit other countries,

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we can't appreciate that because we just assume that,

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hey, you're in America, so you should speak English.

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But if you travel to their country

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and you don't speak their language,

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then all of a sudden things reverse

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and now you know how they feel.

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Right, exactly.

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It is a challenge.

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I lived in Uruguay for two years.

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Oh, there you go.

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That process, right?

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Visiting Mexico was one thing.

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Moving to Uruguay for two years,

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moving amongst the people was,

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especially as a recognized outsider,

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you become a target to certain situations.

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Exactly, right?

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And then, so then you have more empathy, I think,

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for people that come visit us here now

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because you realize that,

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hey, when you were in their country,

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they were either nice to you or they weren't nice to you,

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but how did you feel?

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Yeah, I'll give an example of that.

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We were on a park bench.

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We decided it was a nice day.

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One of the missionaries and I,

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we decided to eat our meal at the park bench.

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Next thing you know,

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we got a group of young men surrounding us

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that are giving us a hard time.

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If you were like, Jesus says, give the clothes off your back.

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You're not even willing to give us your food.

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Some of them were getting ready to do things

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and I'm wondering like, man, what are we doing in this situation?

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At that point, I already spoke the language, right?

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But one of my friends,

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the day we got to the country, got held up at gunpoint

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and he ended up getting hit by the holster of the gun,

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you know, going into, you know,

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having a concussion and all that, getting knocked out.

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So when you're in that situation

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where you can't tell who's your enemy,

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who's your friend, right?

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Are they looking at you and talking bad about you?

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Or are they wondering, hey, you know,

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who's that gringo over there?

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Should we befriend him, right?

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You know, should we go talk to him

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and should we see if he needs help?

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You know, you can't really tell

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what somebody's saying in another language.

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You gotta become really good at reading body language

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and you also just sometimes have to suffer

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the consequences of those realities.

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So it is so hard and there's such an opportunity for us

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as visionary leaders,

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those of you who are listening in,

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to make space for those who are different than you.

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Just be safe, you know, while you do so.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And I mean, and then be, you know, have empathy, right?

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Because you can find yourself in the same situation

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and how would you feel, right?

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If you put yourself in their shoes.

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So, yeah.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions

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as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is gonna get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show

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and thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision

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and becoming a Vision Pro yourself.