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Very good.

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And you've got this awesome event coming up.

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It's on October 18th, which is my grandpa's birthday, the day after mine.

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So, Live to Lead, tell me about it.

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Live to Lead is a leadership conference that John Maxwell does every year.

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include, including Malcolm Gladwell and John Gordon.

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And of course, John Maxwell, I've got a local speaker coming in.

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It's for me locally, it's a one day conference that gives you the opportunity

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to network with other leaders in your area, that gives you the opportunity to

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learn from world-class leaders that you'll see there.

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I have Ashley Reynolds Marshall, who is the deputy chair or the deputy director

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of inclusion and representation here in the Charlottesville city.

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And he like geeks out on the detail, he like geeks out on some stats and stuff

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about how diversity in areas other than just what we look like.

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He called me a holy fool in his book, talking with strangers.

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I was like, Oh, that's me.

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And if you wanted to go to live to lead.com, you could see if there's something in

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This is some pictures from our last one that we did in January and we'll update

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If I'm looking for sponsors, if you want to be a sponsor and it's just right here

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in the Charlottesville area, it's a nice little place to hold about a hundred of us.

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takeaways that we have this year.

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But there is an online version if you just want the leader pass.

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Now we talked about maybe relabeling you as the international optimist.

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Your intentionality as an optimist.

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That means a lot to me.

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What was it like three months ago?

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It's crazy how fast time flies.

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So today we're going to be talking about defining our own principles.

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You audience, when I say you, I'm talking to literally like, this is your

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opportunity to find your own principles for impactful and another important

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word to us, sustainable leadership with Andrea Johnson.

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So, um, if you go to firstclassbusiness.io, you scroll to the bottom, you'll

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see that our tagline is sustainable revenue growth.

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Um, that's a tagline that most people find quite boring.

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Um, but it's in fact, as a business owner, I don't find that boring at all.

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That's because you've been in business for more than three years.

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stop pretending they're making it go, Oh, somebody actually knows how to do that.

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We usually hold this till later, but what does it mean to define your own principles?

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We are used to saying that when I went trick or treating and I was like.

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other people's principles and priorities for how we should succeed.

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but most of us Jackson can't do that.

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they feel like they're constantly consistently compromising their own

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non-negotiables, they feel unbalanced if it's a work life balance, if it's a

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balance of what's important. I mean, I can't tell you how many

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like you said, to to create and define, not create, actually define,

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uncover and define our own principles and priorities.

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That's when it becomes sustainable.

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You've got the water project, right?

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a really good underground stream, that's sustainable.

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Trying to pump it in from someplace else is not sustainable.

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What if electricity goes out?

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What if you mean, it's just like all these great examples.

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This is a big reason why the rich get richer.

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and exponential growth can occur.

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work towards what's called a law of the harvest, feel free to Google or YouTube

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that then you end up in a position to where you are cultivating continuous

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we see things differently, there's a massive difference between

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entrepreneurs at my level and sports stars like LeBron James,

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everything they do, my hat's off to him, man, he works harder than I do.

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Like if it's truly a non-negotiable, you literally will not compromise it.

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you're more diplomatic with these matters than I am.

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without somebody helping being more direct to them and saying that's bull crap.

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We can make your non-negotiables

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non-negotiable and stick to it, otherwise stop calling it a non-negotiable.

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Why is 96 percent of businesses lose within 10 years and four percent?

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Talk to the four percent who've survived.

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I dare you, those of you listening in, you'll find out that they're not actually

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crushing it, they're still getting crushed, too.

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Again, thank you, Malcolm Gladwell.

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everybody's going to fall off this cliff at the end.

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So how is leaders?

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Is there a harmony that can exist?

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I mean, it's easy to think about this with animals, right?

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child can lead a dog really, really well and be the leader the dog needs.

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say, all right, this is not a thing that I can handle.

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I got to pull in somebody over here.

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So it goes back to I don't need to imitate Grant Cardone.

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I don't need to imitate John Maxwell.

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great music. So it's a beautiful way of helping people realize like, well,

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it doesn't always have to feel perfect.

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You know, we don't just want one note.

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We want multiple. And I wrote this quote down for us.

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The whole point is to be you on Andrea Johnson on leadership.

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Right. And there's so there's one other thing

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that people get triggered by that I notice.

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And most of the time, it's soft people and they they they they don't like

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comparisons. A lot of soft people don't.

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They're like, no, don't comparing is bad.

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Don't compare your children. That's bull crap.

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I'm sorry. It's bull crap.

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And here's why.

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If I want to learn how to do a layup,

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I need to watch what LeBron James does and Stephen Curry does and Kyrie Irving.

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Does that mean I'm replacing my identity with them?

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No, it doesn't.

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It means I'm willing to pick up and learn

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the technical component or the skill set from these individuals who have mastered

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a certain law of physics and what they do.

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And so there's there's another discord opportunity there.

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Right. Well, wait a second.

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OK, when somebody says they are trying not to be like so and so or they want to be

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like somebody and emulate, there's a progressive path

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where people start to find their own self.

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But then there's still that opportunity to recognize, OK,

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what are the other virtues and values I'm

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going to pick up from watching said leader on stage and are watching said leader

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engage with some individual in a very difficult situation saying, OK,

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how can I use utilize that with my own identity?

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We should be cultivating it.

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And yes, I'm also saying and make sure that you are doing using healthy comparisons

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to see how these principles are implemented in the world.

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So you turn the harmony thing into a discord that was beautiful.

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And I got to learn the seventh and ninth chords, man.

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That's leadership to do.

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Yeah. Jazz is my favorite music.

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So you got to have the discord in there to make it so make sense.

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It's like you want to have that depth. Right.

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But the other thing, too, is this goes back to how we learn.

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understand your body works in a different way, partially because it's not shaped like

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LeBron James and so you have to adapt what LeBron James does or Larry Bird or

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anybody else, right, or Kevin McHale.

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I'm going back to my glory glory basketball.

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understand what works for you and what doesn't.

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The only way to do that is through experience, is through finally deciding.

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I'm going to do this myself.

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I know the principles I gained from that person and I'm actually make it mine.

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And everybody does that.

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Everybody like if you watch a good chef, they'll do the same thing.

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They'll take it. They'll tweak it.

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They'll figure out what works for them.

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And when you're a leader, you have to grow as a leader on a daily basis.

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I just got off a call earlier with a Core Values coaching and she's a CEO with

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but she also isn't an employee, right?

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She's the CEO.

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And even she said, Andrea, I am amazed at how responsible I am for not

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allowing my core values to be honored.

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And when you show up in a way that honors you and honors others,

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it removes the defensiveness from how you lead.

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what's that word I hate competition.

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It eliminates that word.

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But for me, competition is all about making me better.

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It's not about beating someone.

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I don't automatically assume that when somebody pushes back, it's about me.

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They've got something going on.

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It just changes.

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It's like when you can do that, then you can actually meet others where they are.

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And it's it happens consistently every day.

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I have to wake up and do this every single day because I, too, have the same

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struggle because we're all human and we just need to give once we understand

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where we're coming from, when I know what my non-negotiables are.

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And I love circle back.

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You said if they're not negotiables, they're not negotiable.

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You're one of those unicorn strong people.

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I am for me.

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My non-negotiables were and I've run into a lot of women who deal with this,

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especially women from the South or an evangelical culture,

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who have run into this idea that in order to be accepted, in order to not be called

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certain names, in order to advance in certain ways, we've had to

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put layers on and soften or or even compromise our own core values for the

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good of whatever. And I know it happens to men.

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I just specialize in how it happens to women.

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And the more we take those layers off, what's so fascinating.

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And my client said this to me this morning was, oh, it turns out all that.

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That was all in my head.

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Oh, shocker.

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And as entrepreneurs, we do this.

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We assume somebody doesn't want to buy from us.

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We assume somebody doesn't have enough money.

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And those are the bad ways.

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But we could also assume that everybody needs our idea when we haven't really vetted it.

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Right. So there's a lot of breaking those

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things down that will give you not just the discord, but the harmony in leadership

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that will allow you to show up in a way that is sustainable because you don't need

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to be drained every day doing leadership.

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Right. Exactly.

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There's so much wisdom in all the things that you said.

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I want to just keep going on these veins.

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I will say one of the unique

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aspects that helped me shape into the unicorn, right, the strength of

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non-negotiables as I was raised by my mom and five other sisters.

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And so I got to see one when there were six women who were super strong.

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My mom's first husband died in a plane crash.

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That changes your paradigm.

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Right. And then when my dad left at her command, of course,

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to know this is not healthy for the family,

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you know, there was a resilience that existed.

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But there's still that there's that passion, there's that empathy that I feel

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towards my sisters and my mom of like, oh, man, I wish I could have helped.

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And such and such situations.

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And so it it does.

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It's it's one that because I have the resilience I have for my dedication to my

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own non-negotiables, I tend to be very outspoken with others.

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And like, wait, you know, protect your

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non-negotiables, you know, don't don't let this happen to you the way I've seen

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it happen to my family members and etc.

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It's something that's I'm really passionate about.

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And so I'm glad that you again, you brought this up because it's one of those

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realities that when we're truly strong as leaders, visionaries, when you're working

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with your team members, somebody who is strong, actually strong,

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is not scared to talk about non-negotiables because you're not you're not

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penetrable, right, you're you're you're set and what you know.

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And if you can find team members who will honor that about you and they bring their

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own non-negotiables to the table and you can honor their non-negotiables,

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you can create an amazing environment to work in.

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So, well, we're going to switch gears real fast.

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One, you've given one great resource, and that's this Live to Lead Conference.

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What are two more resources that you'd recommend to visionary leaders out there?

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Well, I am an atomic habits junkie and I've read it.

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I got it like on my desk.

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And so James Clear is just he just breaks

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it all down and makes it so simple.

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And even if you just use one, whatever habit you need.

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And like I'm an ADHD advocate, my son has ADHD.

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And I realize their brains don't always create habits.

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But even if it's he, James Clear talks

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about even just setting triggers that will get you to do something.

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And so that's a piece that I'm like, I recommend it to everybody.

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And if you're an entrepreneur, I'm also going to recommend Profit First.

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But but those are the those are the books I would recommend.

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And conferences like Live to Lead are fabulous.

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Yeah, I love it.

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Dr. Todd Snyder is my first 50 50 business partner here at First Class Business.

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He's now a silent investor.

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And he was really, really big on and is really, really big on Profit First.

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And he is one of the best peak performance coaches in the world.

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No matter how much money we have coming in, if you have it allocated appropriately,

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like the first time I did my taxes as an entrepreneur, I'm like, I have money to

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pay my taxes. It's so amazing.

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You know, I mean, it's just like you don't get into the the really hard stuff

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that a lot of entrepreneurs deal with.

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Great book. Great minds recommending it from Andrea Johnson and Dr.

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Todd Snyder. And we will be right back.

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We'll take a short break.

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We're going to get back in and hear about Andrea's vision.

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All right. Welcome in to Vision Pros Live with Jackson Callum.

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I'm your show host.

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We'll be doing interviews for visionary

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entrepreneurs and guest leaders who are building fantastic visions out there.

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What's up, everybody?

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Welcome in to another episode of Vision Pros Live.

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I'm your show host, Jackson Callum, founder and CEO of First Class Business.

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And we are on fire today.

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We have got the intentional optimist on the show, Andrea Johnson.

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And she has just come out of the gates like a rocket ship.

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And I've absolutely enjoyed it.

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We're going to bring her back on stage.

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We're going to talk about defining our own

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principles for impactful, sustainable leadership and growth.

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Before we bring Andrea back on stage,

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I always want to spread the wealth of resources that exist, one of them in the

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form of a military resource.

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This is the Hard2Kill.org organization, Hard2Kill.org by Dave Morrow.

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Dave's helping one hundred thousand veterans lose two million pounds collectively.

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If you know a veteran, definitely send them over our way to the

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community, Hard2Kill community, and check out his podcast.

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He's got one of the best military podcasts there is out there.

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Now, why is this important?

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A lot of military personnel lose track

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of their routines when they get out of the military.

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Others have been dedicated to a rigorous workout that's

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not necessarily sustainable long term for their health.

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He helps them get reacclimated.

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The military personnel on our lives, you know, they're facing depression.

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A lot of them are facing their suicide rates have gone up a lot.

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So getting them in a community that helps them focus on looking good,

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feeling good and doing good, I would recommend that is one of the best

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options and opportunities for them.

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So tag your friends, come and join us as and join us as civilians as well.

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I'm also in the group. It's done a lot for me.

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I'm doing a hundred pushups a day now.

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I wasn't doing hardly anything for almost eight years previous.

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So I highly recommend checking out how Dave motivates.

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Then there's opportunities for work for Latinos.

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This is our own in-house program.

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I highly recommend checking it out if you're in a position where you're

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thinking of hiring a virtual assistant, they can then consider some of the

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Latinos who work with us, they go through a 90 day certification program

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to help them understand how being a virtual assistant works, how to be a

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digital ambassador, as we call it now.

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You can always use Upwork five or anything else, too.

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But if you know, Latino leaders, what we're looking for right now is Latino leaders

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who would want to be on our Latino driven Spanish speaking podcast

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because they're in the process of building their own channel.

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They just hosted Keekang Lace, who has nine hundred thousand subscribers.

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They also hosted LaTeacher Alma.

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It's saying her name is right.

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I'm losing my English here a little bit,

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but they've they've been they've been interviewing YouTube influencers

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and people who have been able to do dynamic things for their life.

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And what are we what are we doing?

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Well, we're spreading hope and nations that don't typically have access to a job.

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If they don't go down a specific career path in school,

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we have the opportunity to dramatically affect economies globally with this process.

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And Opportunities for Latinos has recently launched as well as opportunities

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for Filipinos and opportunities for India.

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Thanks to Ange Castro in the Philippines and Harry Vasisht from India.

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We're grateful for them.

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So we can always do more.

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And speaking of the water project, the water project is a cause that I'm not

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affiliated with, I just really love what they do.

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I love their transparency.

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When you donate to the water project,

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00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,160
you actually get to choose which community you're going to help.

477
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:51,400
And when you do that, they will send you

478
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,760
picture evidence and the story of what are they doing, how are they doing it,

479
00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:00,040
how are they bringing a water well or a sand dam to this community and how are

480
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,200
they creating sustainability for them now?

481
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:06,000
We're talking about affecting more than 500 lives at a time.

482
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,480
These are moms and dads who have to leave work in order to just get water for their

483
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,920
kids. These are kids who have to leave school in order to fetch water for the

484
00:26:14,120 --> 00:26:18,880
community and the generational impact that we can make just by being involved in this

485
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,160
by donating or spreading the word is amazing.

486
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:26,840
So if you're not in a financial position to help out, my hope is that you just take

487
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:31,520
a little bit of time to meditate or pray and think through who can I share this

488
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,960
initiative with and talk to them or talk about it, open a conversation over lunch

489
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,800
or over this. You never know the ripple effect of the good that could be done

490
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,080
simply by opening your mouth. Don't take that for granted.

491
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,480
I definitely don't.

492
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,440
So without further ado, we're going to bring Andrea on stage.

493
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:47,760
We're going to talk about her vision.

494
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,560
And Andrea, thanks so much for joining me on Vision Pros Live.

495
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,240
Thank you again. It is my privilege.

496
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:54,640
I love these conversations.

497
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,480
Oh, it's going to be it's going to be fun.

498
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:59,920
Feel free to redirect me at any time, by the way, as we go through this.

499
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:02,840
So I don't think we're going to have time to get through everything we want to.

500
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,080
But we're going to start with the vision.

501
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,800
So there's you're welcome to start with where people are at.

502
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:11,080
But I'm really curious.

503
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,520
What is your vision ahead?

504
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,080
What does it look like for those people that you're serving?

505
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,360
So the world, I think the reason why I do

506
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:23,040
what I do in the vision that I have is I envision a world with more curious,

507
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,640
welcoming and wise leaders, leaders who stand and stand by and understand

508
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,160
their core values, they recognize their strengths and then they have a clear set

509
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,240
of life principles, whether they're my intentional optimism

510
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,560
timets or the ones that they've developed on their own after they've started

511
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,040
practicing and figuring out how to live those things out.

512
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:41,920
But understanding the difference between

513
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,040
those means that we have leaders who can lead with integrity, humility and authority.

514
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,480
That's what I shared a little bit earlier and to mentor the next generation.

515
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:54,760
So to create the cycle of leaders who mentor the next one as they come along.

516
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,720
That's my vision.

517
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,680
I don't normally do this, but

518
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,760
I align with the principles that you share.

519
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:10,880
It's very easy to see the tenacity, the passion and the light and the love that you

520
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,160
use to curate. So you said it really fast.

521
00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:15,280
I'm going to slow it back down and say it again.

522
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,320
You said leaders who are curious,

523
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,720
leaders who can welcome others and leaders who are wise.

524
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,240
How did you get centered around these principles?

525
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:27,400
Well, some of them are my own core values.

526
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:33,760
So, yeah, so knowing what my non-negotiables are has informed how what my vision is

527
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,640
and how I lead other people and how I train other people.

528
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,120
And one of my top three core values is belonging.

529
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:45,440
And in order to define a core value, it's an internal principle.

530
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:46,920
It's not something that's external.

531
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,080
It's reciprocal.

532
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,400
It's something that brings you joy or just really upsets you when it's dishonored.

533
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,960
And so for me to be able to say I am

534
00:28:54,960 --> 00:29:00,440
welcoming because I want to foster belonging not just for me, but also for you.

535
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,840
Right. I want you to feel like you belong whenever you're in my presence.

536
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:08,160
And therefore, I think as leaders, you talked about having soft leaders or harder

537
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,240
leaders, I think we can all be welcoming,

538
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,560
whether we're soft or hard by anybody's definition.

539
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:18,440
And as long as we do that, then the conversations about diversity are.

540
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:19,960
Oh, and the curiosity.

541
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,640
I call myself I say I have terminal curiosity.

542
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,680
I am one of those people.

543
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,720
And whenever I put that out there, like I put that on a social media post, it goes

544
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,040
like because people just think it's hysterical.

545
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:31,760
It is.

546
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:37,680
But when we are curious, we are much more welcoming when we can say, well,

547
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:41,880
I'm just asking questions and it's clearly there's something behind that.

548
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,520
Clearly, there's some kind of agenda.

549
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,760
But when we're curious, the agenda is to understand.

550
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,480
And so when we do that and we can become

551
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:55,560
more curious about ourselves and about others, we're more likely to have to

552
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,920
cultivate wisdom. Right.

553
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:01,360
And so all those things go hand in hand and they are kind of a part of

554
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,920
just a piece of my core values that I can live out for other people.

555
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,880
My top core value is thinking for myself.

556
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,880
That's not a vision that I mean, I would love for everybody to be able to do that.

557
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,120
And I want people to do that.

558
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:15,760
But my real vision is how does it get played out in our leadership, in our

559
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:20,480
mentorship, in the way we interact with our communities and our clients?

560
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:21,320
Wow.

561
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,080
There's a lot of depth.

562
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,680
One of my favorite books is a book called Feelings Buried Alive Never Die.

563
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:31,760
And I'm writing it down.

564
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,480
There's another great one called The Child Whisper.

565
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:40,760
And the challenge with those two books is they're just so deep that it takes a long

566
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,160
time to like, you got to really sit with it to really get the whole maximum value.

567
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,920
And I'm feeling the same thing with you, Andrea.

568
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:49,840
I'm like, oh, my gosh, there's so many

569
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,520
rabbit holes I want to dive down with.

570
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,880
So I want to go back to.

571
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,000
I want to tie your concept to one of my

572
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,240
own personal challenges, and I think a lot of visionaries, especially the stubborn or

573
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,040
the self-assured ones, will benefit a lot from this.

574
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,880
So you said we can all be more welcoming.

575
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:15,880
And I, too, am a big fan of the idea and the sense of belonging.

576
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:20,840
Yet one of the challenges that I face as a leader is, for instance, wouldn't it be

577
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,880
nice if everybody came on his stage right on Vision Pros Live?

578
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,400
You know, that's welcome everybody onto it.

579
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,840
However, the challenge we run into is we end up having leaders.

580
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,480
Let's say that I put some guy on stage

581
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:39,520
and he says he has some non-invasive heart surgery that's going to change the world.

582
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:45,760
And it turns out he's an absolute crook and criminal and has no desire to help.

583
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:51,120
But is and maybe his intention is to do good, but he's struggling financially.

584
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,520
So he's kind of just fudging the numbers and kind of fudging things to move us.

585
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,720
Well, we run into that

586
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:03,640
with people who want on our stage to promote their book or to promote something

587
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:09,000
else, and I am certainly curious until I'm not.

588
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,160
Well, right until it's until it's been satisfied.

589
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,280
Yeah, like this is manipulative.

590
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:18,080
And then the worst I watched a movie last night, Alpenheimer,

591
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:24,960
and his wife in the movie says something that like that I was like, oh,

592
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:26,920
that's a really great line.

593
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,960
So I took a picture of the screen of the movie and she said the fastest way to get

594
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,680
it, she said, you know, the truly vindictive are patient as saints.

595
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,840
Hmm.

596
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,920
And I was like, so true.

597
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:41,040
Why don't people realize that?

598
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:41,800
All right.

599
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,080
So I have a reality of like, I want to be welcoming and I want to let people in.

600
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,960
But there's so many people who also take advantage, manipulate or aren't doing

601
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,800
things for the right reasons, not everybody, but a lot.

602
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,640
So how do you balance that with wise?

603
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,560
What is with wisdom?

604
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,120
So, OK, with wise and discernment.

605
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,400
And so another tool that I have discovered that I really like is called

606
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,640
Working Genius, and it helps you figure out where you fall on the project line.

607
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Like

608
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:22,840
one of the reframing my question, OK, do you welcome everybody into your circle or

609
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:24,760
do you have healthy boundaries as well?

610
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,320
And when you come across somebody who is like that, do you burn them at the stake

611
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:35,320
or do you show like I prefer to use the term shields up.

612
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:36,040
Uh huh.

613
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:40,760
OK, so one of the things that I talk about with core values is that it does help you.

614
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:42,600
And you and you kind of hinted at this.

615
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,960
It helps you define your own space.

616
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,600
It helps you define your own boundaries.

617
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,840
It's like this is my house or my primary core values and outside my house is my

618
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,280
secondary. Nobody walks in my front door without my permission unless it's, you know,

619
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,680
if they do, that's bad. Right.

620
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,320
So it's the same way with our when.

621
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,280
And that's how I describe if if somebody like if my door is open,

622
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,040
people are more likely to walk in.

623
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,440
And so it's kind of my fault that I left my door open.

624
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,200
Like if somebody steals my car because I left it unlocked, I don't have a lot of

625
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:12,120
recourse there, you know.

626
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,160
So being able to define your boundaries.

627
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,480
And you talked about with your team when you all have your own boundaries, you'd

628
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,280
think that the boundaries would be something that repels other people.

629
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,320
But what's interesting is when you know where you end and they begin, it is

630
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,280
amazing how much closer you can get.

631
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:35,120
And so when when we talk about being welcoming to everyone, I'm

632
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,680
I am very welcoming and I am people have called me naive and give people too many

633
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,760
chances, but I'll give you a chance or two.

634
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,760
But as soon as I see what's really there, right, if if you say don't look behind

635
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,840
the curtain and then you open the curtain and I see there what's what's there,

636
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,000
I'm like, oh, no, no, no, we're we're done.

637
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:56,160
And it's OK to do that because that's where wisdom and discernment comes in as

638
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:58,800
a leader. You have to be the one that can make those choices.

639
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,880
You have to be the one that says, all right, these are our main principles.

640
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,800
But we also have some non-negotiables

641
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,560
on how we're going to protect those main principles.

642
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,840
Right. And so I don't think that's bad at all.

643
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,360
I just don't I don't burn them at the stake.

644
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,600
I just I might let them know that, yeah,

645
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,920
this is not something that we're going to pursue any further.

646
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,000
And I've had to like not air interviews.

647
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:28,560
I've had to or I've had to chop them down from an hour to 20 minutes because of

648
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:29,520
things that were shared.

649
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,920
And I'm like, this is not appropriate to share on a podcast.

650
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:36,320
And so those kinds of things are that's one of the reasons why I say all of those

651
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:38,960
three together, the curious, the welcoming and the wise.

652
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,080
And if you don't have if you don't have

653
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,280
that discernment yourself, if you've got a team around you is where I was going

654
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,320
with that widget thing.

655
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,400
If you have a team around you that helps you discern, I have a podcast producer

656
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,120
who's like, yeah, I don't think so, because she's like super like dialed in.

657
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,520
And so I think having again that good team, even if you're a solopreneur,

658
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,720
there's people that you have in your life that are in your orbit that are helping.

659
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:04,920
I'm going to say right now, Vision Pros,

660
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,360
if you're a solopreneur, this is not the show for you.

661
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,120
I have never, ever met a solopreneur who's actually winning.

662
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,240
They're either stepping on all of the

663
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,360
people in their path and not giving any credit to anybody or there.

664
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:19,800
It's a complete lie.

665
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,840
So I've there's probably the unicorn out there who's actually done it.

666
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,400
But I have literally never met one.

667
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,480
So I'm going to shoot it down.

668
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,680
I mean, the definition because I call

669
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,400
myself a solopreneur because I don't have paid team members.

670
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,280
But I have people that support me

671
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:41,480
because they believe in my vision that I hope to pay in the future.

672
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,640
But they're not a solopreneur.

673
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,640
So I'm not so by your definition, I'm not a solopreneur.

674
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,720
I have an amazing team.

675
00:36:47,720 --> 00:36:51,600
And like for Live2Lead, I have a whole whole volunteer team that is just

676
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,440
phenomenal, but these are people that have proven themselves to me.

677
00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,280
These are people that I know.

678
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,040
Well, I think what we do is we set up a false pretense for the rest of the world

679
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,760
to follow when we when we speak without that intentionality.

680
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,080
It's like, OK, I get that everybody's

681
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:08,400
drawn to this idea of solopreneurship, and it sounds like, oh, cool.

682
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,040
I can be an entrepreneur without paying people.

683
00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:11,760
True.

684
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:12,560
No, no.

685
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,440
You have the kingdom somehow.

686
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,760
And so those the words end up, you know, when people see that.

687
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,320
And the same thing with another entrepreneur, like if you're an entrepreneur

688
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,680
and you have a spouse who has their own income, right?

689
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,440
A lot of boss babes out there, I'm going to call them out.

690
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,760
But I'm specifically talking about the boss babes that hide that reality.

691
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,720
You own and you talk about it.

692
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,040
But I'm talking about the ones who say they're self-made.

693
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:40,400
They say that, you know, I was able to do this and I was able to do it fast.

694
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,080
And what they're not admitting is six

695
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:47,760
figure hubby salary or six figure wife's salary is actually sustaining all

696
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,920
of their mistakes while they're they're convincing single moms like mine

697
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,960
to think that they have the same chance and the same variables.

698
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,520
And that's completely unethical.

699
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:01,680
In my opinion, I agree.

700
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:04,640
That's something that we have to address

701
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:09,000
as as leaders and say, well, wait a second, we're literally leading people off

702
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:14,520
the cliff due to our privileged statuses rather than recognizing that we as a

703
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,480
responsibility as leaders have to be as responsible as a doctor is and saying,

704
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,400
you know, before I give you this medicine, what other medicines are you taking?

705
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,480
Before I give you this medicine, what other conditions do you have?

706
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,120
Too many leaders are able to just fly off

707
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:31,920
the cuff and blab about anything because there is no malpractice for us as leaders.

708
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,840
There is no checks and balances for the coaches in the world.

709
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,320
So we break the law.

710
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,960
Right. Unless what? Unless you break the law.

711
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,880
You know, but I mean, but that's why Jackson, I talk about the whole point of all

712
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:49,040
of this is to lead with integrity, is to lead with humility, but to still have

713
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,400
the authority that you need to do what you need to do.

714
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,720
People, you know, Maxwell and other people say people don't care how much you know

715
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:56,240
until they know how much you care. Right.

716
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:01,160
So that that functions in your team, whether it's a paid or unpaid team.

717
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:02,400
That is your clients.

718
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:03,600
That is your audience.

719
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,680
Everything that you do, you you cannot.

720
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,160
I mean, I'm not one of those you have to be a servant leader because I don't think

721
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,800
that truly is the perfect picture.

722
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,800
So because I like to have authority in there

723
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,600
and a servant leader does not feel like they have authority to me.

724
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:20,080
That's like a semantic.

725
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,160
Christ said, no, and I'll be the first to say that.

726
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:28,600
But we're so but we're not Jesus and we, you know, we're human and we have things

727
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:32,320
that are, you know, but that but I think it resonates differently with different

728
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,640
people. So I'm with you.

729
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,960
It's kind of like that word, so you're welcome to keep your definition on it.

730
00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:37,960
And what you do.

731
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,200
But I think we're all different how we see that.

732
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:46,280
So I see servant leadership as the most as the strongest form of leadership because

733
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,360
it's something that I'm choosing to do.

734
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,280
Right. It's it's my own active of giving a service because I chose to do it, not

735
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,440
because I'm subservient or forced to.

736
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,520
Yeah. And a lot of people don't use that.

737
00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:00,200
Right. That to me is a brilliant definition.

738
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,400
And if you and there's plenty of places

739
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,480
in the world where you if you hold up Jesus as the example of the servant

740
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,480
leadership, it goes right over people's heads or they shut you down.

741
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:14,640
So, you know, it's like I am looking for ways to describe that without necessarily

742
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,080
not that I would hide from that.

743
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,200
I used to be in that I used to be in that bucket.

744
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,720
And I and I it's a it's an I shouldn't say bucket.

745
00:40:20,720 --> 00:40:22,080
Right. You got Peter and Paul.

746
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,560
They had different missions, different types of audiences that they needed.

747
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,960
And so I spent a long time where I was

748
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,360
leading and knew that I wasn't supposed to mention Christianity at all.

749
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,960
And that was that was my platform and how I ran things.

750
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:41,160
And it's funny, a man sent me a voice clip one day and he said, hey, Jackson,

751
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:42,960
I got to give you credit. I just got baptized.

752
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:43,840
Thank you for your influence.

753
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:49,840
And I'm thinking I've never once said the word Jesus, God, Bible, nothing back then.

754
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,280
And it's like, this is so neat and validating.

755
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,360
And then as I started work with

756
00:40:55,360 --> 00:41:00,000
Carolyn Thompson Twaddle, a great author, by the way, she wrote this book

757
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,840
Living in Sync with Your God Given Design.

758
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,040
It's not because I converted to Carolyn.

759
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:09,800
It's not because of some massive transition that everybody has to go through.

760
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,640
For me and myself, I was I finished a meeting with her.

761
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:18,280
I was showering and I got this this voice came that said, hey,

762
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,080
that said, hey, it's time to be unapologetically Christian.

763
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,400
And I was like, whoa, that's a huge shift from how I do things.

764
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:28,840
Like, you know, really?

765
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,240
I mean, it was yes, that was my new call for for this phase of life.

766
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,040
But there's a difference for me still.

767
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:39,360
And this is levels of intentionality, right.

768
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:44,200
And purpose and thinking through, you know, I've always been really, really

769
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:50,720
good at helping atheists and agnostics feel welcome and feel accepted in my

770
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,360
presence and know that I'm not here.

771
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:56,760
I want to learn from you that curiosity aspect just as much as if you want to

772
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,400
learn something for me, fine, you know, but I'm trying to learn so much.

773
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,840
So it's there's different there's different styles related to it.

774
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,360
There's different opportunities.

775
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,600
You know, it's it's helpful to know our audiences as well.

776
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:15,520
And and you and I both do a good job of knowing what the audience looks like.

777
00:42:15,720 --> 00:42:19,960
But what you've done for me today in terms of exploring this,

778
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,960
this the depths of the well of being welcoming and understanding of the

779
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,640
boundaries and how those exist and tying the wisdom to it.

780
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:33,080
There's a couple of key key components that I get to play with now.

781
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:38,120
One of them, you said, is we are when we are curious, we are more welcoming and

782
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,360
we're constantly going to be refining that process for the people that we're

783
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,680
meeting with. So I'm curious, Andrea, you could you could probably hang it all up

784
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:50,280
and stop tomorrow and go golf or go watch basketball games.

785
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,240
But what's your vision for you?

786
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,280
What do you see for yourself on the horizon?

787
00:42:54,480 --> 00:43:00,040
You know, this whole idea of it's a daily thing, you know, when we talk about why

788
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:01,400
did you get started doing what you're doing?

789
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:05,080
Well, it's because I went have gone through and am going through.

790
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:09,880
Right. So my vision for others is very closely tied to my vision for myself.

791
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:15,440
As a coach, as a trainer, as a speaker, as a podcaster, I always they tell you you

792
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,840
only have to be like 10 steps ahead.

793
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,920
Well, I want to be at least 10 steps ahead.

794
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,680
But sometimes, you know, I learn from like I love that you said you learn from me.

795
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:23,960
That's a very high compliment.

796
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,280
And to to say, like I learn from every single one of my clients.

797
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:34,080
But my vision for myself is to get to a place where I no longer fear living in my

798
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:38,880
core values and being my own non-negotiable self.

799
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:44,760
In order to prove to people, I am living proof, I am living proof because I can be

800
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,560
I can look confident with the best of them and I can say the best things, but

801
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,920
you're not hearing what's going on in my head or when the camera turns off or laying

802
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,680
up in the middle of the night thinking about, you know, whatever.

803
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,960
And so for me, the vision is to get to that place where I really just no longer worry

804
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,520
about it, where I really do trust the process, trust God bringing me through

805
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,560
the journey, because our journeys are a little similar.

806
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,800
I started with a little, you know, kind of being very Christian and then going

807
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,920
through a full almost deconstruction period and then it was like, no, we don't

808
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,080
talk about that at all. And now it's like, it's very clear.

809
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,160
It's like coming back in.

810
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:24,200
And my my clients that want to stick around or they keep coming to me are all

811
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,720
from church. It's like, OK.

812
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:32,040
And, you know, it for so the vision for myself would be that I would actually be

813
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,200
the one that could live out these principles in a way that other people was

814
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,480
just very clear and that they could see that.

815
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:43,240
And if I can make that one thing that's one of my favorite things about you as a

816
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,880
leader is your focus as you've talked to us has been about making sure that we

817
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:52,640
become right. The person your your form submission, actually, I'm going to I'm

818
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,560
going to go back to that because you said some profound things in it that I like to

819
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,200
make a little space for if you're if you're willing to.

820
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,800
Andrea, I'd love to have you come back on the show.

821
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,800
Make sure that we talk about the the worst leadership experience ever, the best

822
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,440
leadership experience ever. I know you've got amazing.

823
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,680
I've got some worse ones, man.

824
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,480
Exactly. And and those are things that we get to learn from.

825
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,480
So history doesn't repeat itself for those of us who get to learn from it.

826
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:23,720
So you said in your form, my vision is it's not what you do that makes you an

827
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:26,280
impactful leader, but who you are.

828
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,640
And by understanding and respecting your

829
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:34,280
core values, you can move from imitating other people's principles and priorities

830
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:39,120
to defining your own for impactful, sustainable leadership.

831
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,880
That process of focusing on who you are

832
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:49,800
is something that was life changing for me to come on to come to first understand.

833
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,760
I heard a couple of times and I understood it.

834
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:53,560
And then when I understood it, I was like, oh, man,

835
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,560
this is like learning about oxygen for the first time.

836
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,320
There's so much more to learn about how this stuff works.

837
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,360
And so you've you've got this depth, depth of wisdom where you've been playing

838
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,080
with that concept and implementing, I mentioned the book

839
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,200
Feelings Buried Alive Never Die.

840
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,320
It opens your eyes to all these feelings

841
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:19,360
and principles that that I maybe took for granted, you know how to implement.

842
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:25,080
Right. And so you have these these core values, thinking for myself as one

843
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,080
belonging as another belonging, being one that hit me.

844
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,880
I'm like, that's definitely up there for mine.

845
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:36,640
But I haven't been as intentional about finding the full list of potential

846
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,960
principles and values. You seem to have a depth of a list

847
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,080
considering thinking for myself as one. What does it look like?

848
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:44,760
How do you where's the exercise for this?

849
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,600
How did you get to where you've centered yourself so well around principles

850
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,440
and and what they mean?

851
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,600
Well, I started this was just one of those pieces when you're a coach and you get

852
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,760
coach training. One of the things they talk about is like helping people figure

853
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,920
out their core values. And there's people who do this.

854
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,040
Like Brene Brown is really good at it.

855
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:03,120
But when I started looking at how I was

856
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,840
supposed to walk other people through this, I thought, oh, I need to do this for myself.

857
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,040
And so I just really dove in.

858
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,160
And if you scroll all the way back up to the top, there's a couple of buttons on my

859
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,160
website there, and one of them is that get connected will do.

860
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,800
My scroller speaks Spanish, so they might make it.

861
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,240
I've forgotten my Spanish.

862
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:22,640
I'm actually in Duolingo studying Korean right now.

863
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,280
And so it's like, I pay so much.

864
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,080
But if you all the way to the top, there's a button and it says free core values

865
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,840
exercise, it's a downloadable PDF that will kind of walk you through the steps.

866
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,120
And for some people, that's enough.

867
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,040
For somebody like you, that might be enough.

868
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:44,680
If for some reason that's not enough, there is a core values exercise.

869
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,120
Excuse me, a core values digital course.

870
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:48,360
And that's under tools.

871
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,320
You're looking at different tools that are coming across the website here.

872
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,440
And and I also have and it's not out on my website yet, but you can contact me.

873
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,880
I'm in beta testing of core values coaching.

874
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,400
So you go through the course and you meet

875
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,360
with me for six different sessions to actually push back and walk through and

876
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:08,920
help you figure them all out. Some people just depends on how you're

877
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,200
wired, how you need that kind of thing. So, well, I love it.

878
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,760
And I'm I'm excited about I'm excited from where you came from that, because I think

879
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:18,360
all of us have come across certain assessments with that.

880
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,320
Right. And as it's kind of like having different math teachers.

881
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,400
Right. And you can see every math teacher and you were like obsessive math.

882
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,560
Right. And then you look at the front.

883
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,280
The the formulas that they're all drawing on the chalkboards.

884
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,440
You can learn from all of them, different techniques and different realities.

885
00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:32,920
So

886
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,800
I'm I'm glad to know that you I'm going to be diving into the resource.

887
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,760
I'm going to take that assessment myself

888
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,360
to take a look and see what I learned from it, just like positive intelligence.

889
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,960
Barbara and Gardner, Hiram Mills is real big fan and

890
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:47,000
advocate ambassador for that program.

891
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,720
And I love Strengths Finder 2.0.

892
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:53,080
Another fantastic tool for or they got the disk.

893
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:54,560
You got the Myers Briggs.

894
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,400
I designed it.

895
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,680
I do it all.

896
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,120
Org is one that most people aren't aware of.

897
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,640
And then the one I the one I would say I started with was actually part of a book

898
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:08,240
called Preach My Gospel, and that was our missionary training guide

899
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:09,440
in the Church of Jesus Christ.

900
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,800
And then there's a chapter dedicated to Christlike attributes.

901
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:18,360
And the Christlike attributes is an assessment at the end for attributes that,

902
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:21,960
you know, how are you doing with your patience, your kindness, your love,

903
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,680
your charity, your service and beyond.

904
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:32,040
And the more we the more we dig in and realize that there's opportunities to

905
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:35,080
develop, there's actually opportunities to cultivate this in our life.

906
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,280
For me, the better life becomes.

907
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,800
So I'm really excited to take the assessment,

908
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,440
see where that takes me on the journey.

909
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,000
And those of you who want to get connected with Andrea Johnson,

910
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,960
we're going to have the action steps below this episode, too.

911
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,680
So you can dive in and and follow around all the different social platforms.

912
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:53,840
And we'll have the assessment on there, too, so you can take it.

913
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,000
And then down below that, we'll have all of the resources.

914
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,000
Lastly, on that page, we'll have a button in the top right corner.

915
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:02,440
And that button says, be our guest.

916
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,600
If you also want to come share your vision of how you're helping the world

917
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:10,000
and how you're bringing light to others and come and share, you can be,

918
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,080
you know, people we talked about, LeBron James, Stephen Curry, come and join us.

919
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,880
We'd love to have you on the show if you'd love to be here.

920
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,440
And you might be a I'm looking forward

921
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:25,760
to the day that a stay at home mom or stay at home dad decides to come and want

922
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,040
to share their vision on this platform.

923
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,000
It's not about the wealth and the money.

924
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:31,040
It's not about the politics.

925
00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:33,400
It's not about being the most known person.

926
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,880
It's about being dedicated to principles

927
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,880
and visions that are holistic and help the rest of us level up in all that we're

928
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,840
doing. So as we close today, Andrea, we've got a couple of minutes left.

929
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,040
I don't want to go over on your time, but I'm going to give the mic to you.

930
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,200
Feel free to close us out today.

931
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:52,880
If there's one thing that I could leave

932
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,920
every single person listening with, it would be this.

933
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,160
Think for yourself.

934
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:02,320
You can you have the ability, you have the authority.

935
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,360
Get curious about why you think certain

936
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,560
things, get curious about what I call your ABCs, your assumptions,

937
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,960
your beliefs and conditioning. Why are those there?

938
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,160
Where did they come from?

939
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When you're willing to think for yourself, it is amazing what will open up for you.

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You have a vision, even if, like Jackson said, you're a stay at home parent.

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You might you might even think you don't have a vision, but you do.

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And just like you have core values that you may not recognize.

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So be willing to think for yourself.

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You can do this.

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And we need to hear what you can bring to the table, because if you're at a good

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holiday meal and somebody forgets the main course or somebody forgets that one

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side that everybody loves, we miss out.

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So when you don't show up as you at the table, we all miss out.

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And we look forward to hearing exactly what you are.

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I love that you heard it from Andrea Johnson.

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Think for yourself.

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You're all visionaries and we'll see in the next episode.

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Thank you for being here today.

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I'm really happy that you tuned in to Vision Pros Live.

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I'm looking forward to seeing your reactions as these episodes continue to move forward.

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This is going to get more and more fun.

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We'll have more and more engagement as well.

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We'll invite people to participate in the show.

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And thank you for giving us your time and attention.

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Have an excellent time building out your vision and becoming a.